have saved $300
with the Mimosa.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 2:54 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Not to start a war...
+1
Then you become a giant corporation and eye unlicensed and lite licensed
spectrum for
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<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
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Well if we've got unlimited money I'd ch
wrote:
Let me ask a more obvious question. If you had an unlimited amount of
money, Why would you start an ISP.
Steve B.
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> Steve B.
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
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> Well if we've got unlimited money I
ring revenue :)
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> Then again rental property does that too
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> Well if we've got unlimited money I'd choose Cambium too...
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Recurring revenue :)
Then again rental property does that too
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Subject: [AFMUG] Not to start a war...
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Let me ask a more obvious question. If
Let me ask a more obvious question. If you had an unlimited amount of money,
Why would you start an ISP.
Steve B.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 10:19 AM
To: af@afmug.com
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Agreed!
On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
> Nice analogy.
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "That One Guy /sarcasm"
> To: "af@afmug.com"
> Sent: 9/30/2016 1:17:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Not to start a war...
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Nice analogy.
-- Original Message --
From: "That One Guy /sarcasm"
To: "af@afmug.com"
Sent: 9/30/2016 1:17:57 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Not to start a war...
if money doesnt go to both staff and hardware, money isnt a good thing
to throw at it. Underpaid, overwor
if money doesnt go to both staff and hardware, money isnt a good thing to
throw at it. Underpaid, overworked, under-qualified staff end up standing
confused poking themselves in the eye looking at the cobblefuckery on the
network. you can hand the best gear in the world to a guy, if hes just
poking
No doubt there will be plenty of poorly run and designed (and may already
be) ePMP and Mimosa networks, but I suspect that the majority of those
networks will always be UBNT and maybe some MikroTik, simply because if
you're comparing price and the specs that most people without a lot of
experience
IMNSHO, more money has not typically translated to better networks in
this biz...
On 09/30/2016 09:31 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
To add to this, there's a lot of poorly run UBNT networks out there
simply because the price made the equipment more accessable.
I'm sure there's a fair share of poorl
To add to this, there's a lot of poorly run UBNT networks out there simply
because the price made the equipment more accessable.
I'm sure there's a fair share of poorly designed cambium networks as well,
but likely not as many (more money in the company, higher % of experienced
professionals, etc)
ohhh… good conversation in my opinion.
I came from a pure Cambium/Moto shop and now work with a company that is pure
ubiquiti … but i’m not hands on with that side of the shop …. would say with
everything I’ve seen from a distance that I really miss Cambium gear ;)
> On Sep 30, 2016, at 9:47
nt or an indoor/outdoor wifi
> AP. Everything has it's place.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Jaime Solorza"
> To: "Animal Farm"
> Sent: 9/30/2016 11:18:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Not to start a war...
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> I had an Escort for 6 year
UBNT is great for a low budget point to point or an indoor/outdoor wifi
AP. Everything has it's place.
-- Original Message --
From: "Jaime Solorza"
To: "Animal Farm"
Sent: 9/30/2016 11:18:37 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Not to start a war...
I had an Escor
gt; *Sent:* Friday, September 30, 2016 9:17 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Not to start a war...
>>
>>
>>
>> I would bet the vast majority of the UBNT fanboy base, if starting fresh,
>> with pockets of dough would choose cambium hands down. They
Steve, did you never hear the song that goes “If you want to be happy for the
rest of your life …”
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 9:17 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Not to start a war...
I would bet
ixed a problem by rebooting a Canopy AP is basically zero.
>>>>>
>>>>> UBNT is cheaper, and probably good enough in many cases. In business,
>>>>> good enough and cheaper is sometimes a hard combo to argue with, but I
>>>>> would if
management, and being priced at
>>>> an attainable level even if it's not the cheapest. The number of times I
>>>> fixed a problem by rebooting a Canopy AP is basically zero.
>>>>
>>>> UBNT is cheaper, and probably good enough in many cases.
gt;
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Friday, September 30, 2016 9:17 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Not to start a war...
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>
>
> I would bet the vast majority of the UBNT fanboy base,
say the big carrier model is best.
Personally, I think tone alignment alone is worth a bunch.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 8:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Not to start a war...
lol
knowing what
would if it was me I would do Cambium.
>>>
>>> (disclaimer: I have not touched any Ubiquiti newer than M series)
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Original Message --
>>> From: "Sam Morris"
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Sent: 9/30/2
> it was me I would do Cambium.
>>>
>>> (disclaimer: I have not touched any Ubiquiti newer than M series)
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Original Message --
>>> From: "Sam Morris"
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Sent: 9/30/201
to argue with, but I
>> would if it was me I would do Cambium.
>>
>> (disclaimer: I have not touched any Ubiquiti newer than M series)
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Sam Morris"
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent:
uld if it was me I would do Cambium.
>
> (disclaimer: I have not touched any Ubiquiti newer than M series)
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Sam Morris"
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 9/30/2016 9:47:16 AM
> Subject: [AFMUG] Not to start a war...
Based solely on performance and manageability, I don't see how there's any
question... PMP450.
Taking everything else into consideration, knowing what I know now, I would
more than likely use ePMP.
On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 8:56 AM, Josh Luthman
wrote:
> Did you want to be able to drive your car
me I would do Cambium.
(disclaimer: I have not touched any Ubiquiti newer than M series)
-- Original Message --
From: "Sam Morris"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 9/30/2016 9:47:16 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Not to start a war...
Knowing what you know, if you were starting a WISP, based solely
lol
knowing what you know would you drive a ford escort or a Ferrari?
On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 8:47 AM, Sam Morris wrote:
> Knowing what you know, if you were starting a WISP, based solely on
> performance and manageability, if you had to be 100% one or the other would
> you select Ubiquiti or Ca
Did you want to be able to drive your car daily or just a couple times a
year?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 9:52 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> lol
> knowing what you know
How many customers per site/AP? If you're doing an omni with 25 people,
Ubnt. If you're doing 4 sectors and ABAB for 400 people, pmp450.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Sam Morris wrote:
> Knowing
Knowing what you know, if you were starting a WISP, based solely on
performance and manageability, if you had to be 100% one or the other
would you select Ubiquiti or Cambium 450x for your APs and CPE/SM
hardware (leaving the backhaul out of the discussion)?
Thanks,
Sam
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