Re: [AFMUG] WISP insurance

2016-01-01 Thread Adam Moffett
technology from a previous civilization. Oh, and ... Happy New Year! *From:* George Skorup <mailto:geo...@cbcast.com> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 29, 2015 11:15 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WISP insurance For about a month at one site during the summer

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2016-01-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 11:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISP insurance For about a month at one site during the summer (maybe last year, I don't remember, too much shit in my head), we got a bunch of popped fuses and surge suppressors. Our local 911 dispatch joined the site

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2016-01-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
: Friday, January 01, 2016 9:44 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISP insurance Can you *see* the butt splices? Aren't they in enclosures? On 1/1/2016 10:24 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Regarding the power company ... I think our attitude toward infrastructure has changed over the past 25

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2015-12-30 Thread Chuck McCown
the space craft on the launch pad. -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 9:53 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISP insurance What is split grounding? Faisal Imtiaz wrote: one of the most classic examples of a 'split ground' situation is when you

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2015-12-30 Thread chuck
: Joshaven Mailing Lists Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 10:28 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISP insurance This is good stuff. When replying I was worried that I was gonna get smeared for being that little voice in the background that keeps bringing up the grounding discussion

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2015-12-30 Thread Bill Prince
8 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 11:53:07 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISP insurance What is split grounding? Faisal Imtiaz wrote: one of

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2015-12-30 Thread Jay Weekley
.net - Original Message - From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 11:53:07 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISP insurance What is split grounding? Faisal Imtiaz wrote: one of the most classic examples of a 'split groun

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2015-12-30 Thread Jay Weekley
it. Perhaps put up some ground towers like NASA does surrounding the space craft on the launch pad. -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 9:53 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISP insurance What is split grounding? Faisal Imtiaz wrote: one

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2015-12-30 Thread Jay Weekley
supp...@snappytelecom.net *From: *"George Skorup" <geo...@cbcast.com> *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, December 30, 2015 12:15:33 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WISP insurance For about a mont

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2015-12-30 Thread Chuck McCown
And in the world of grounding, 1 ohm is high resistance. -Original Message- From: Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 10:03 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISP insurance When you have multiple grounding rods at a site (e.g. for a tower ground, there should

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2015-12-30 Thread Chuck McCown
@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISP insurance one of the most classic examples of a 'split ground' situation is when you loose gear with rain during hot days (first rains after dry season). Because there is rain involved most folks chalk this off to 'Lightning' ... in reality it is not, it is due

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2015-12-30 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - > From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 11:53:07 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISP insu

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2015-12-30 Thread Joshaven Mailing Lists
lto:lis...@joshaven.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 10:28 AM > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISP insurance > > This is good stuff. When replying I was worried that I was gonna get > smeared for being that little vo

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2015-12-30 Thread chuck
That will do just fine for the three rod decline of potential method. But I am too cheap. I just use my trusty old fluke 87, car battery and my hp 48G calculator. From: Joshaven Mailing Lists Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 11:59 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISP insurance

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2015-12-30 Thread Joshaven Mailing Lists
how much > better you can do it. > Perhaps put up some ground towers like NASA does surrounding the space craft > on the launch pad. > > -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 9:53 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] W

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2015-12-30 Thread George Skorup
for a guyed tower. *From:* George Skorup <mailto:geo...@cbcast.com> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 30, 2015 2:08 PM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WISP insurance The other problem besides lightning strikes on guy points with improper/broken grounding is

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2015-12-30 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Skorup" <geo...@cbcast.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 12:15:33 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISP insurance > For about a month at one site during the summer (maybe last year, I don't > remember, too much shit in my head), we got a bunch of popped fu

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2015-12-29 Thread Joshaven Mailing Lists
Kinda off topic... Insurance of another type (avoidance) I often find locations where the grounds are hooked up to the tower ground which includes one or more ground rods… but what often goes unrealized is that the system is also grounded to another system through the utility company… and the

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2015-12-29 Thread chuck
R56 methods seem to help. From: Glen Waldrop Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 4:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISP insurance Forgot to mention, this was one hell of a storm. Lightning from *several* miles away shook my home enough that the dishes rattled, the TV moved

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2015-12-29 Thread Joshaven Mailing Lists
gt; Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 3:33 PM > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISP insurance > > Did not find anything at copper.org > > From: Joshaven Mailing Lists <mailto:lis...@joshaven.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 1

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2015-12-29 Thread Glen Waldrop
for putting up at least a couple of replacement towers over my Christmas break instead of goofing with the wife and kids. We got lucky and only lost some electronics. From: Glen Waldrop Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 4:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISP insurance

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2015-12-29 Thread Glen Waldrop
Mailing Lists Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 1:18 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISP insurance Kinda off topic... Insurance of another type (avoidance) I often find locations where the grounds are hooked up to the tower ground which includes one or more ground rods… but what

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2015-12-29 Thread chuck
Did not find anything at copper.org From: Joshaven Mailing Lists Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 12:18 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISP insurance Kinda off topic... Insurance of another type (avoidance) I often find locations where the grounds are hooked up to the tower ground

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2015-12-29 Thread Jaime Solorza
mas break instead of goofing with the wife and kids. We got > lucky and only lost some electronics. > > > > *From:* Glen Waldrop <gwl...@cngwireless.net> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 29, 2015 4:57 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WISP insurance > > I

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2015-12-29 Thread Jaime Solorza
ith electrical damage to equipment. >> >> :) >> >> >> >> Faisal Imtiaz >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >> 7266 SW 48 Street >> Miami, FL 33155 >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@

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2015-12-29 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
aldrop" <gwl...@cngwireless.net> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 6:02:24 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISP insurance > Forgot to mention, this was one hell of a storm. > Lightning from *several* miles away shook my home enough that the dishes > rattled, the

Re: [AFMUG] WISP insurance

2015-12-29 Thread George Skorup
*To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 29, 2015 6:02:24 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WISP insurance Forgot to mention, this was one hell of a storm. Lightning from *several* miles away shook my home enough that the dishe

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2015-12-28 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
we don't file anything unless the loss is greater than about $1500. i think our deductible is $1000. - Original Message - From: Glen Waldrop To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 9:22 PM Subject: [AFMUG] WISP insurance We’ve had another lightning strike, at

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2015-12-28 Thread Josh Luthman
How many times have you actually done that, though? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 12:12 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller < par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote: > > we don't file anything unless the loss is greater than

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2015-12-27 Thread Craig House
2 in a year? We had 7 last night. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 27, 2015, at 21:22, Glen Waldrop wrote: > > We’ve had another lightning strike, at least the second one this year. > > I’ve got this feeling that our insurance company is probably going to start > to

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2015-12-27 Thread Glen Waldrop
got fried, lost access to a chunk of my network. I'm building in redundancy, already had it scheduled for January once we got another tower up. -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 9:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISP insurance We did

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2015-12-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Never made a claim for equipment... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 27, 2015 10:22 PM, "Glen Waldrop" wrote: > We’ve had another lightning strike, at least the second one this year. > > I’ve got this

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2015-12-27 Thread Jay Weekley
We did that once for a lightning strike to one tower and after a tornado and had to find a new provider each time. I would limit claims to catastrophic event only and rely on the compassion of your fellow wisps if necessary . Josh Luthman wrote: Never made a claim for equipment... Josh

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2015-12-27 Thread Glen Waldrop
to allocate more time. On the upside, it was second in line to be upgraded. Now the insurance company will help cover at least a portion of that. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 10:00 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISP insurance Let's us know if you need gear to get

Re: [AFMUG] WISP insurance

2015-12-27 Thread George Skorup
. On the upside, it was second in line to be upgraded. Now the insurance company will help cover at least a portion of that. *From:* Jaime Solorza <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> *Sent:* Sunday, December 27, 2015 10:00 PM *To:* Animal Farm <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re:

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2015-12-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
Let's us know if you need gear to get back up... On Dec 27, 2015 8:22 PM, "Glen Waldrop" wrote: > We’ve had another lightning strike, at least the second one this year. > > I’ve got this feeling that our insurance company is probably going to > start to get a little