On Tue, 2018-11-27 at 10:13 -0500, Jacob Arduino wrote:
> Indeed I retract
You need to post the retraction to a public forum (typically agora-
business). Actions in agora-discussion don't work.
--
ais523
Indeed I retract
On Nov 27, 2018 09:48, "Kerim Aydin" wrote:
You may wish to retract these CFJs: if everyone agrees you were right
(well-spotted, btw) and Gaelan has changed eir votes so the issue is
moot, no need to litigate.
On Mon, 26 Nov 2018, Jacob Arduino wrote:
> CFJ: Gaelan's second
You may wish to retract these CFJs: if everyone agrees you were right
(well-spotted, btw) and Gaelan has changed eir votes so the issue is
moot, no need to litigate.
On Mon, 26 Nov 2018, Jacob Arduino wrote:
> CFJ: Gaelan's second ballot on Proposal 8136 is invalid.
> Supporting statement:
No, it's standard to fail second ballots when people forget to retract
their first one. That's why the last sentence of R683 defines "changing"
a vote, so voters can use that term as a shorthand - but you still have
to use it explicitly.
On Tue, 27 Nov 2018, Jacob Arduino wrote:
> My second
My second CFJ states re: 8138, not 8136. These might be too nitpicky, but
I'd rather deal with it now than see you disenfranchised for something
silly.
On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 12:26 AM Gaelan Steele wrote:
> Bah, do we need to explicitly retract votes? For clarity: I retract any
> previous
On Sun, 29 Apr 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:
Per Rule 879, failing to state quorum is illegal but does not invalidate
the decision.
Although failing to state quorum is not quite the same thing as stating it
incorrectly, so I'm not sure Rule 879 actually _says_ that it's not
invalidated.
I thought it was something like that. It seems I did vote for it.
On 4/29/2018 5:06 PM, Ned Strange wrote:
If you voted for G's recent proposal you are eligible
On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 4:45 AM, ATMunn wrote:
I know, I was referring to what the proposal/scam was.
On
If you voted for G's recent proposal you are eligible
On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 4:45 AM, ATMunn wrote:
> I know, I was referring to what the proposal/scam was.
>
>
> On 4/29/2018 2:33 PM, Corona wrote:
>>
>> Nothing in particular is specified in the rule, in practice it's
I know, I was referring to what the proposal/scam was.
On 4/29/2018 2:33 PM, Corona wrote:
Nothing in particular is specified in the rule, in practice it's for
scamming/passing a proposal to that effect.
~Corona
On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 8:17 PM, ATMunn wrote:
On Sun, 2018-04-29 at 20:33 +0200, Corona wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 8:17 PM, ATMunn
> wrote:
> > Alright. Am I eligible for one of those by the way? I forget what
> > thing let people get them.
>
> Nothing in particular is specified in the rule, in practice it's
Nothing in particular is specified in the rule, in practice it's for
scamming/passing a proposal to that effect.
~Corona
On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 8:17 PM, ATMunn wrote:
> Alright. Am I eligible for one of those by the way? I forget what thing
> let people get them.
>
Alright. Am I eligible for one of those by the way? I forget what thing
let people get them.
On 4/29/2018 12:37 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
I vote ATMunn for Tailor.
ATMunn - you can deputize for the job. I'm about 99% sure that the only
ribbons since the Feb report were this week's black ones.
Yeah I did that when I was ADoP. It's an easy mistake to make.
On 4/29/2018 4:23 AM, Aris Merchant wrote:
Per Rule 879, failing to state quorum is illegal but does not invalidate
the decision.
-Aris
On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 1:15 AM Ned Strange
wrote:
Also you
Sorry! I'm still traumatized by the brief period where I had to
initiate Agoran Decisions.
On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 6:23 PM, Aris Merchant
wrote:
> Per Rule 879, failing to state quorum is illegal but does not invalidate
> the decision.
>
> -Aris
>
> On Sun,
Per Rule 879, failing to state quorum is illegal but does not invalidate
the decision.
-Aris
On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 1:15 AM Ned Strange
wrote:
> Also you forgot to state the quorum, so this is no Agoran Decision at all.
>
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 6:15 PM, Ned
On 2017-10-30 15:16, Aris Merchant wrote:
On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 9:13 PM Telnaior > wrote:
I vote:
FOR 7931
FOR 7932 (this is way cooler than a victory election)
FOR 7933
AGAINST 7934 (why are we turning into a literature club
On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 9:13 PM Telnaior wrote:
> I vote:
>
> FOR 7931
> FOR 7932 (this is way cooler than a victory election)
> FOR 7933
> AGAINST 7934 (why are we turning into a literature club I'm awful at poems)
> FOR 7935 (but you might want to make the revision limit
Sorry, I was much more on top oif it last week than this week. All of
that is noted.
On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
>
> Another note:
>
> It used to be that you had to officially "change" your vote (R683), or
> retract first, or later ballots
You're still the arbitor, obviously.
On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 4:51 PM, VJ Rada wrote:
> Sorry, I was much more on top oif it last week than this week. All of
> that is noted.
>
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>>
>>
>> Another
Another note:
It used to be that you had to officially "change" your vote (R683), or
retract first, or later ballots didn't count. I'm not sure there's a
precedent that just saying "I vote..." works if you've already cast a
vote, although in this case maybe the parenthetical gives enough
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017, VJ Rada wrote:
> Before I resolve them, I will vote in the elections for Rulekeepor,
> Surveyor, Referee, Tailor, Superintendent, Promotor and Arbitor. For
> all of the above except Tailor, I vote for the incumbent. For Tailor I
> vote Quazie.
>
> (Originally I endorsed G
On Fri, 2014-10-24 at 12:03 -0500, Chester Mealer wrote:
I deregister and vote yes on all matters which I am able.
Chester Mealer
Were you a player /before/ doing that?
If not, this is hilarious.
If yes, this is also hilarious, but for a different reason.
--
ais523
On Mon, 24 Jun 2013, Charles Walker wrote:
On 24 Jun 2013, at 18:37, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
This sort of three-fold action/house concept (Proposals, Voting, and
Justice) with separate currencies was carried over into Cards, but
I think over time, the paid systems have
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013, Kerim Aydin wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jun 2013, Charles Walker wrote:
On 24 Jun 2013, at 18:37, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
This sort of three-fold action/house concept (Proposals, Voting, and
Justice) with separate currencies was carried over into Cards, but
On Tue, 2013-06-25 at 11:02 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote:
Had to go back and refresh my memory again!
There was no official thing as concurrent, automatic trades. I'd
say 99% was done on a handshake deal. I personally don't have any
memory of anyone breaking a handshake deal on purpose, and
On 19 June 2013 22:05, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
3. Massive Economic System (1999-2002);
What was this like? In particular, what made it so massive compared to
more recent economies that I've seen?
-- Walker
On Mon, 24 Jun 2013, Charles Walker wrote:
On 19 June 2013 22:05, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
3. Massive Economic System (1999-2002);
What was this like? In particular, what made it so massive compared to
more recent economies that I've seen?
Heh, I think I'll defer this
On 24 Jun 2013, at 16:24, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jun 2013, Charles Walker wrote:
On 19 June 2013 22:05, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
3. Massive Economic System (1999-2002);
What was this like? In particular, what made it so massive compared to
On Mon, 24 Jun 2013, Charles Walker wrote:
I'm amazed the game could support many different currencies and the
secondary (never mind tertiary and quartenary) markets. I think that
modern day Agora isn't active enough for that, but maybe if you build it,
they will come.
In Feb 2001 Agora
On 24 Jun 2013, at 18:37, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
This sort of three-fold action/house concept (Proposals, Voting, and
Justice) with separate currencies was carried over into Cards, but
I think over time, the paid systems have become more about buying
general specific actions
On 24 Jun 2013, at 18:37, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
In Feb 2001 Agora was Slashdotted (just via high-placed comment). I think
it doubled in two weeks, and peaked a little while later in the 30+ players
(IIRC, maybe I'm exaggerating). The new players (like me) as a cohort
ehird wrote:
On 19 June 2013 20:12, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
Anyone joining before #6 is an old hand I think, I mean, if you
suffered through the contract wars you are my brother... well, except
ehird...
Hah! My plan all along was to destroy the UNDEAD! And it worked!
On 19 Jun 2013 06:30, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote:
As an aside, I find it funny that I still think of Roujo as a new
player, despite the fact that e has been playing for two and a half years
now and that only two players have last registered longer ago.
I still think of myself
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Charles Walker
charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
On 19 Jun 2013 06:30, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote:
As an aside, I find it funny that I still think of Roujo as a new
player, despite the fact that e has been playing for two and a half years
now
On Wed, 19 Jun 2013, omd wrote:
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Charles Walker
charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
On 19 Jun 2013 06:30, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote:
As an aside, I find it funny that I still think of Roujo as a new
player, despite the fact that e has
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
I sometimes think of everyone who registered after me (6 years ago) as
a newbie. Of course we have at least one player who played Agora's
spiritual predecessor and made vaguely precedential posts 15 years
before that,
On 19 Jun 2013, at 20:12, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
On Wed, 19 Jun 2013, omd wrote:
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
I sometimes think of everyone who registered after me (6 years ago) as
a newbie. Of course we have at least one player
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Charles Walker
charles.w.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd love to hear players' views on what causes these eras (if you don't think
they are just arbitrary labels), or rather what makes a particular system
stable enough to make it last that long. Does Agora simply
On Wed, 19 Jun 2013, Charles Walker wrote:
On 19 Jun 2013, at 20:12, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
Heh. Was thinking about it just now, I personally classify players by
era:
1. Nomic World (to 1993);
2. Agora but departed pre-2001 (when I joined, maybe Murphy has more
On Wed, 19 Jun 2013, omd wrote:
http://agoranomic.org/propgraph/pg.html
Well, yes. Yes you have.
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
On Wed, 19 Jun 2013, omd wrote:
http://agoranomic.org/propgraph/pg.html
Well, yes. Yes you have.
Incidentally, just fixed that graph to deal with H. Former Promotor
Machiavelli's crazy Unicode subject lines.
On Wed, 19 Jun 2013, Kerim Aydin wrote:
It's a mystery for me. I don't know what made the first Cards successful
and the second one die.
Reading omd's comments I'm going to throw out one answer to this one:
When you have a dedicated recordkeepor who keeps on top of (effectively
gamemasters)
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote:
Meanwhile, VCs all reset whenever anyone's voting limit becomes high
enough. It /is/ possible to get a win via VCs (although we should
reintroduce a Clout rule so that it can be done via a method less
disruptive than knocking
On 19 June 2013 20:12, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
Anyone joining before #6 is an old hand I think, I mean, if you
suffered through the contract wars you are my brother... well, except
ehird...
Hah! My plan all along was to destroy the UNDEAD! And it worked!
On Wed, 19 Jun 2013, Alex Smith wrote:
I'm not sure how typical or atypical I am of Agoran players, but it
seems reasonable that there are other people with similar mindsets to
me. I know that economies with no reset buttons and lifetime
accumulation are often considered unfair, but if an
On Wed, 19 Jun 2013, omd wrote:
Distribution fees suck.
I think distribution fees only work if they're high enough
that people genuinely take time and proto everything, and maybe
reach out to opponents before finalizing, so their final proposal
is just right. Low fees are mostly a
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012, omd wrote:
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
Hm. I note that the phrase 'First-class player means a player who is a
first-class person.' was deleted from the ruleset (by you I it looks like!)
in 2008. That leaves it only
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
Ordinary is at least one counterexample that comes to mind. (In addition to
the common meaning of ordinary, as least one scam IIRC depended on the
confusion between ordinary decision (correct) and ordinary proposal
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
The eligible voters on a decision with an adoption index are
those entities that were active first-class players at the start
of its voting period. Setting or changing an entity's voting
limit
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012, omd wrote:
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:
The eligible voters on a decision with an adoption index are
those entities that were active first-class players at the start
of its voting period. Setting or
Spitemaster wrote:
Proposal: Dictatorship Scam
FOR x 12
In future, please quote the proposal numbers.
Geoffrey Spear wrote:
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote:
Arguments: Purported resolutions of Agoran decisions are self-ratifying?
What if they are via an act-on-behalf that is platonically uncertain? Do
they still self-ratify, even if the purported resolution
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 11:40 AM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Thus forcing me to attempt to use a scam before it's been j
remind me to vote on such proposals in the future to avoid these
quorum games. though I probably would have voted AGAINST, as it's not
nice to counter by
ais523 wrote:
On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 16:30 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote:
I vote FOR on the decision on whether to adopt proposal 6514.
Thus forcing me to attempt to use a scam before it's been judged whether
it worked or not (Murphy could resolve the proposal as ADOPTED right
now, AFAICT),
On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 09:51 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote:
ais523 wrote:
On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 16:30 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote:
I vote FOR on the decision on whether to adopt proposal 6514.
Thus forcing me to attempt to use a scam before it's been judged whether
it worked or not (Murphy
comex wrote:
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 11:40 AM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Thus forcing me to attempt to use a scam before it's been j
remind me to vote on such proposals in the future to avoid these
quorum games. though I probably would have voted AGAINST, as it's not
nice
coppro wrote:
ais523 wrote:
On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 16:30 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote:
I vote FOR on the decision on whether to adopt proposal 6514.
Thus forcing me to attempt to use a scam before it's been judged whether
it worked or not (Murphy could resolve the proposal as ADOPTED right
comex wrote:
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Aaron Goldfeinaarongoldf...@gmail.com
wrote:
I CFJ on the following sentence. I cast a vote in the recent Promotor
election.
Trivially TRUE, you cast an invalid vote.
I sit up. I become Hanging.
I thought it was trivially FALSE at first,
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 5:23 PM, Chester Mealer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If possible, I submit the following votes. If one or more votes is not
possible for me to submit, I submit those votes which are possible.
You know, on ordinary proposals (I believe Zefram's distributions have
a column
pikhq wrote:
I spend 2B and 1K to increase my VVLOP by one.
I'm interpreting different colors in Rule 2126 as requiring each VC
in the set to be a different color from any of the others in that set,
so this is ineffective.
On Thursday 22 November 2007 20:04:46 Ed Murphy wrote:
pikhq wrote:
Fine. I spend 2B VCs to create 200B marks. I spend 1K VC to create 100K
marks.
These don't work, either. The Marks rule only allows you to convert
Marks to VCs voluntarily; to convert VCs to Marks, you have to arrange
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