--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I sent that article to Reidy and Raffetto over the weekend.
I can only read so fast.
Keep them thinking ad hopefully enacting at least some of these ideas.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sounds like counsel disagrees with me.
Isn't the only time counsel disagrees is when there's someone to bill .
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That's one reason why while it's good to know your local market in residential
- it's better to
know just that much more. Regardless of where one's office is.
The commercial real estate market is not dead. It's just finding
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The company has made a wise decision not to look at the retail
side
of the redevelopment in a vacuum. We think we can accelerate the
whole process there, said Gary Mottola, the company's president of
investments.
now 304 4th ave is once again rife with section 8 prostitutes
and drug dealers while 301 4th sits mostly vacant with a very tenuous
future.
This is a reason why a apartment conversions have to be limited. I said
before, you wind up with 20 or 30 individual owners - abesentee
landlords vs
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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Beachfront condos tend to not attract people who use the school
system. The town can make money from those ratables.
That was the marketing approach to sell and to argue for tax
abatements.
Didn't work.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When school is out, is AP a good place for kids?
Not as it currently exists.
You'd be surprised.
My kids go to Ocean Twp High.
You want horror stories?
There's problems HERE as well.
Same for other districts as
In this snippet, you can change the word carmakers/automakers
with developers. Vehicle = unit, like condo
On The Chopping Block
We looked at price cuts because, while alluring, they may indicate a
carmaker's desire to jump-start sluggish sales, which may in turn
indicate a less than accurate
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are you opposed to a future in AP that puts the focus on arts and
entertainment with a lesser role for condos? Think about the bigger
picture...jobs and an income stream for the
city.
Nope,not at all. Lesser rol for
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When school is out, is AP a good place for kids?
Not as it currently exists.
So how do you market a place that's not safe for kids or folks in a
senior tower? Some glossy of a happy couple kissing in the sand? Racing
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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Now dsher4 makes a great point.
Look, if you folks aren't going to give me something to argue about
I'm gonna leave! :-)
Good. We all agree.
I want to get back to work as well.
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at least on paper.
As the market continues to slide. Happy year end brokerage statements
made to look good?
Lots of extra money being wiped out of retirement accounts.
What does that mean?
Hov flirting with dropping below 5, the other flirted with 6.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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justifiedright@ wrote:
The building is a wreck. There aren't even thermostats - just
one
switch to turn the heat on or off for the whole 11 stories.
Leaks badly
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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The building is a wreck. There aren't even thermostats - just one
switch to turn the heat on or off for the whole 11 stories.
Leaks badly. Everything antiquated - elevators, bathrooms, room
sizes.
I'm going
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote:
There MUST be a regulation for this? If not, there should be. If it is
Years and years ago I worked at bar as a bouncer in another town. the local
police
Stock continued it's slide with rumor of bankruptcy.
I documented part of attempt to refi when the ALL the mortgage brokers were
running to
Countrywide. I kept on getting funny requests for additional info that I found
real
interesting. Needless to say, O eventually got that refi locally.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you are interested in the answer to the question, you can search on
liability for negligent gun storage and see the cases on the issue.
it's nice to have more lawyers out there):
My daughter is tinkering with the
you can view Countrywides current list of Bank owned properties..
http://www.countrywide.com/purchase/f_reo.asp
Nothing in AP - few in M county.
But if you're looking for a place in Florida - check it out.
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good article in this weeks Business Week about how Cleveland and Bufflao are
taking a tough
stance against absentee landlords and more importantly - lenders who are in
the process of
foreclosing on properties - MAXIMUM fines, demolition and donating of
properties to local
charities.
Things
for AP for those people who live
here and those who just benefit financially and occasionally get
dinner on Cookman.
Like I said, and tommy, never assume you know what people's interests are in
AP.
We care and that's most important.
And those horrible schools and taxes you don't pay
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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There's no way the Court will be able to sell that building unless
the
bank agrees to take a loss.
The COURTS (the system), as Tommy knows, is problem in trying to
determine value. I just got back from
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote:
a sweetheart lease that a
new owner would have to eat.
Tom, can't the bankruptcy judge cancel that lease?
i'' take a shot, no, unless it was done knowing
Where does he live?
Where does he give back to?
Who does he help out?
Devito - where does he live and where did he come back to for a premiere?
I can go on.
Yes, we all consider ourselves the same.
I wrote a long rant before at work, but the computer went down.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, denise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
fancypaaantz---you raise a few good pointsa
realtor who has a office in Neptune and lives in Ocean
Township trying to sell property in Asbury Park---how
sincere is the realtorso much prime location
available ---why
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah, that's one of the great things about AP.
The only traffic/parking tickets I've gotten in the past few years
were in AP.
My first in years. The funny thing is, I saw the van the patrols watch
me park. I was going to
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
It's so hard to get the mrs to come to
AP.
Sorry, I am new here so I do not know all the players. But, you write
all these posts and you do not live here And you run
asburyboardwalk.com but you do not live here???
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
It's so hard to get the mrs to come to
AP.
Sorry, I am new here so I do not know all the players. But, you write
all these posts and you do not live here And you run
asburyboardwalk.com but you do not live here???
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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No, I was just surprised that you have been so vocal about the place
and then made a comment that your wife is either afraid or does not
like being in AP.
sorry about that):
Afraid of AP? Her? She just was dirt
Other then reading our rants on here:
1. Read Helen Pike's GLory Days: Story of An American Resort, Gary Wein's
Beyond the
Palace, Stan and Jean's Rock and Roll Tour...all tell a story of AP, Boardwalk
memories:
Tales of the Jeresey Shore (Salvini)
2. Then look at Peter Lucia's amazing
Is something to draw the $ of 16-19 year olds and families as in family
comfortable restaurant. While no one here want's to see Friday's or Houlihans
or Applebees, these do
attract that family that MIGHT be needed to fill in the blanks. Not to take
anything away
from the current restaurants.
Asbury Partners receives award for Asbury Park development - New Jersey
Real Estate Weekly, July 16, 2003 .
Asbury Partners, LLC, the City of Asbury Park, and Clark Caton Hintz and
Ehrenkrantz Eckstut
Kuhn Architects have received New Jersey Future's 2003 Smart Growth Award in
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Pardon me while I puke in retrospect...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote:
Asbury Partners receives award for Asbury Park development - New Jersey
Real Estate Weekly, July 16, 2003
Should consider paying those few who bought to move out and knock down
that disaster known as Wesley Grove.
Rethink (Im sure they have) that whole project - and look at some of
the ORIGINAL Concepts shown for those blocks - nice architecture,
brick work etc. This will also open the door for them
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, lightgrw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Boy you really like to see the bright side in everything!
Yes, it's definitely good news that MM is taking over for Kushner, but
the news about Metro was a disaster and having Kushner give up on
Asbury
Park wasn't very
http://www.asburyboardwalk.com/belfire/f2.htm
Good thing the APFD was there that day to hose it down, right?
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/4/2008 12:54:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The SAND n SEAonce a disco/bar located at
The so-called disco phase lasted only a few months (someone hung a
mirror
ball
FOr the city to approve the deal, there has to to be a real plan, real
time lines and some financial guarantees tied to those timelines -
right Dan?
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, lightgrw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I guess there's always a first time :)
then there's the 40 yr old virgin
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I know, I shouldn't of been lazy. But I parked on Grand in front of
The Griffin Two Spots - one said no parking 8am-6pm, the other, no
parking here to corner (the one I missed, but parked half under).
My wife saw me swipe the ticket off the windshield noticed a few
other parking tickets on
dropped another 5% or more on the open today.
Hov trying to stay above $6
that's even with Fed talk or MORE rate cuts.
Why not just 0%?
A few years back, a local bank had that teaser rate of 3.75% home
equity it rode up, but it was nice for a a couple years.
Could that happen again?
Look
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Its not Asbury Partners.
The responsibility lays 'squarely' on the City Council.
Any blame/praise/etc should be directed there.
Werner
So werner, can we turn Bradley?
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, John C. LiDestri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Its not Asbury Partners.
The responsibility lays 'squarely' on the City Council.
Any blame/praise/etc should be directed there.
Werner
You know better than me and I hope your rightit seems that it
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Robb Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Read the article linked to below - it could just as easily be Asbury
Park - given the right
circumstances
IT WAS (same time line) and IS Asbury Park today and what will be AP
tomorrow.
The SAND n SEA
once a
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
MM also has lots of projects going around the country. I think they
did a $60+m one in Washington area recently.
The point - they have lots of projects going.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A sign of good leadership is the
ability to come to grips with that and be willing to accept and
surround yourself with the most knowlegable sources available.
as my boss at Merrill once told me, with his feet up
and one excuse was (in today's app)
We're right next to Asbury Park, Donald Fields of Buttermere Avenue
said. We can't afford to lose our Police Department right now.
Maybe they should put the gates back up as well
Interesting test of just merging departments.
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As the market continues to get killed.
Of course to an analyst, everything is looking like a buy.
Check out your 401k's.
Sometimes you're better off taking a 10% hit from the feds for pulling
your money out BEFORE it vanishes in the market.
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an update on this long lost figure:
http://www.asburyboardwalk.com/mail/mail35.htm
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just $1.2 million. Springfield officials have blamed Merrill Lynch,
saying the Delaware-based financial firm improperly invested city
funds in risky instruments.
http://tinyurl.com/2c2cmh
ML = State Street
so far, so good but:
When Metro Homes shut down its site in December, some city officials
said they would not go forward with any developer in the future unless
a performance bond is posted, which has not been the case on the
existing development sites.
When asked about posting such a bond on
Financial companies have already announced more than $70 billion
of write-downs tied to the global credit crisis.
The ability to write-down losses or mis[steps
Citigroup will take another $12 BILLION hit. Don;t know about you, but
I think that's alot of money.
Citigroup isn't the worse
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why a private email just to John? If the issue is whether or not you
are supposed to know something, you've already spilled the beans that
you do.
Will you share it with the Group?
Let's start something -
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How about we have The Apprentice Asbury in order to find city
officials who really kick ass
Great charity event idea
who gets to be the boss - Dan, Tommy or the real thing??
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
anuary 3, 2008 Edition Section: Business Printer-Friendly Version
Gold Value of Apartments Sinks
New Reports See Spike in Dollar Terms
just read the report, but not vs. gold.
FOREGIN $ fueling NYC prices along with
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unlikely victims
_With Builder in Bankruptcy, Buyers Are Left Out - New York Times_
but lots of smart buyers ran.
Like I said way back when and in a couple RentLaw.com releases - why
close if when you walk away from the
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Its listed on the stock exchange. This could never happen
...
Mario...
The stock exchange. One of the greatest scams ever invented.
Take a look at home builders that are traded.
Even Toll is slipping. From the first fed announcement
I've been talking to someone about amusements - real real experience
in the biz and I'll just cut paste his last remark to me:
Amusements are often used to bring attention to areas that need a
push; even if the actual project didn't make money, it serves as an
anchor to growth development.
And
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, John C. LiDestri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
e area.did someone mention that the rides
were removed in AP? Ever since I stepped foot in this place I feel
like a have been on the sickest roller coaster ever invented!!
esperanza-less..maybe not? who
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
TCN is reporting that MM bought out Kushner according to Gilmour's
email blastand more news next week. No details.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fast4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oak,
Every new and old member of this group, should read this article, save
it, print it, etc., because it chronicles the last 7 years, of the
infighting, the jockeying for position, the larceny, the avarice,
It does TOUCH
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, lightgrw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
While I'm not a fan of condos, at least they know that condos alone
aren't the answer.
and you can read that article about AP 100 times:
I'm willing to work with anyone. I'd work with Daffy Duck. The
first ones that
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Finally, what about recreation? Sure, we have green spaces, but
do we have parks that are really being used? Not so much.
Playgrounds? Where's the tennis courts, the community center?
Baseball fields. Baseketball? We
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jennie Corner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I am a lawyer, but I am not looking to do something in that
capacity. Any suggestions? Not sure I have the stomach or patience
for local politics :)
I twice consulted at ATT.
I was pretty good at what I did,
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hmmm... Not sure that was helpful, although I get the point.
sorry about that.
There's probably a few places that could a well educated attorney as a
role model.
Welcome.
Here's one more tip. Don't get stuck on THIS
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Just wondering if any word has come from Metro.
It's in Dog Time:
Redevelopment: 105 years. Based on 30 years. It's not 7 years per 1
according to a new calculator and study.
Metro has 21 days in DOG TIME (old
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, John C. LiDestri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is anyone aware of whether or not the city has a list of all of the
70 or so people under contract and their contact information?
John
cut out the sales people who had a contract and anyone else who was
on
Cameras.
In the news the other day, they said Newark NJ was trying to raise
$50k for cameras in 7 of the worst areashow you ask?
'
By raffling off those hard to get 'Hannah Montana' tix for $1,000
per tik - come on moms...git your little girl that special gift and
show her how great a mom
so what's up duck?
http://tinyurl.com/3d9orh
By LAURA MANSNERUS
Published: January 31, 1999
''They want a majority on the board,'' said Mayor Kenneth Saunders,
one of the three council members who opposes the plan. ''No. This is
our town, and we should have a majority.''
''In the meantime,''
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote:
Tommy?
Oak I went back and looked at how the last couple of severe, off
topic, terrible back and forth battles began, and they started with
you asking
Oct 2004:
New revenue for the city
The prospect of all three developments coming on line by 2006 is
raising hopes that meaningful financial relief is on the way for the
cash-strapped city and its restive taxpayers, who have long borne one
of the heaviest tax burdens in Monmouth County. City
Werner
Is the S.I.D in the original plan still valid or part of the plan? In
there, there is a mention of that to recover costs the DEVELOPER lays
out for sewer or other services???
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You're getting closer. DJ's postion was not that the beachfront
can come later as you state below. It was altogether different
than that.
I won't answer it. You owe me enough. Besides, does it matter?
when
1. The city remain tough in zoning, code enforcement and police.
2. Figure out what plans are in place for 2008 from Madison M.
3. Calculate how many units will sell in 2008 in the redevelopment zone.
4. For the summer, get those empty lots cleaned up. Boarded up buildings should
be clenaed
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Agree with those points:
and kick out the people
who have no regard for responsibility.
The problem is, they have to MAKE IT EASIER for landlords to get rid
of problem tenants. This is a tenant state. Even worse if the
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
in PA again:
thoughts...
http://asburyboardwalk.blogspot.com/
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Good article, touches on the problem. Also, just because the company is
publicly traded,
doesn't mean a thing.
the best advice is to avoid, when possible, buying into an unfinished project
or when where
the
http://ptoday.blogspot.com/2007/12/redevelopment-did-jerry-green-miss.html
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Looks like Asbury Partners does not have the cash.
neither does the city.
see the * - 75/25 Smart Growth Financing Rate
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1. How much does PArtners owe the city, if any.
a) Taxes on current properties
b) Reimbursements
c) Penalities (ha ha)
d) How much is unrealized in 2007 and might be on completed units
not sold?
2. What was the bonding for on the sewer plant and wasn't there a $3m
note somwhere as well for the
See it's registered at west21 now the site is pointing to a
standard parking site.
If you guys want to sell it, let me know.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hopefully the experience so far has been a good one.
Thanks.
He's ready for his tour of AP and photo shoot on the BW.
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I do have www.asburyparknj.com if you are interested I can give it to
you for a reasonable price.
Kevin Brown
GuardiansByTheSea.com
Thanks but no thanks.
As you know, asburypark.com is just parked now. Maybe I should offer
you religionstore.com I'm putting someone to work on it for
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wmovement that is widespread than a movement lead by one or
two forces. Please let me know if you disagree and why? This was
also an attempt to bring the conversation back to asbury, this board
has enough issues without
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, John C. LiDestri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple asburycouple@
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I wonder what it would cost to place billboards next to their other
F-R-A-U-D
I said, a billboard with Dean's image.
Give back the money
Does AP Partners or ANY other entities asssociated with the
redevelopment owe the city any monies - reimbursements, taxes or any
other fees?
If so, how much and for what?
Mr. Keady?
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Ok. What's the response to the 72 Hours to respond? I've accounted
for weekends, holidays.
1. Attorney(s) are on vacation?
2. Dean,family and friends on vacation?
3. They forgot a stamp or had wrong address?
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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That's why you check the rating of the company before you accept.
And whose to check the ratings companies.
They full of fraud/shit as well.
Just like developers.
Give back the money dean.
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Thanks.
The escrow agent (attorney) is allowed to file suit to ask the court
to settle the dispute too.
An escrow attorney would do it on their own, given the evidence, no?
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Tommy if the funds are held in an ATTORNEY escrow account and a
developer makes a statement in fact that hey halted construction
wouldn't the attorney holding those funds cut a check back if someone
asked? It's pretty obvious that target dates will not be met.
What would happen if those 70
interesting to read, based on Fl law, but same principles:
http://www.kpkb.com/news-publications-developer-breach-of-contract-
remedies.html
then more of my favorites -
preconstruction investing sites...
http://www.investorwealth.com/preconstruction/tour.htm
Did Metro's continued committment and high profile announcements
contribute to what be viewed as fraud? How early on did Metro know
that they will be folding all the while continuing to market the
property?
Let's bo back to the STOCK brokerage (hmmm) world. I'm currently
looking at 3 more
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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What's scary for these people who were buyers is if any of them left
in the contract that Metro can spend their deposits, and if Metro
did.
If that company goes to Bankruptcy, those deposits could be gone for
Tommy, you in?
His appearance came as U.S. officials here struggled to cope with the
immense policy implications of the assassination on relations with a
nuclear-armed country that has received billions of dollars in American
financial assistance and is an ally in the war on terrorism.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John
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Our tax money, well spent!
After the United States has spent more than $5 billion in a largely
failed effort to bolster the...
Kind of like school spending on Abbotts and SCC.
Sorry.
Back to the war.
the KIDS dog Blaze has been added to AP Pets
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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One third of one degree.
well, I got into a Christmas eve discussion about this with my wife's
cousin who is about to get her Doctorate in Geophysics (intelligent
cute AND Smart = cuter) and her almost fiance, who
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Sharon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The threat of Islamofascists, justifies one race taking over the
country of the natives. See Eastern Europeans and Arab Jews, taking
Let's get back to Asbury Park and the fate of those who have MIGHT have
deposits sitting
In MLS: 109 condo units listed for sale from $149,000 to $999,000.
Add to this all those actaul units not listed in MLS.
The Post building now has a few in MLS along with the Griffin.
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So whose to blame - the kid, the tiger...?
1) The tiger?
2) The kid for possibly teasing the tiger?
3) The Zoo?
4) People for having to see an animal confined in a natural setting?
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