[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-18 Thread FleurDeLis
The other is asburysteve1952. Found an old email from him! Don't know the other one, Mario, except to see him in passing. I speak to him and that's all. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bizzarro world. The nice AsburySteve probably wonders why people are

[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-17 Thread FleurDeLis
Denise and Hinge, I wasn't going to comment, because Denise has said it all! There seems to be 2 Asbury Parks, the downtown with it's new stores, new residents, who have bought into this community, etc. Unless the children of our community, in spite of where they live, how they live, or the

[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-17 Thread FleurDeLis
One word on Asburysteve. He is a human rights activist. I see nothing wrong with him, voicing his first Amendment rights, like all of you. Are you afraid of him, or his message? Call him a naysayer, if you choose, but I don't see him, as the demon, you've made him, out to be. - But we have

[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-17 Thread FleurDeLis
Why not! I'm sure, Tiger Woods, isn't the only good, golfer. Neptune, has had a golf team, for years! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: . Maybe it's just me, but when I see kids having to

[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-17 Thread FleurDeLis
And while you're at it, place a camera on your street, too! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Denise denisemchd@ wrote: Gang members are drug dealers fighting for territorial rights CAMERAS...track them when they

[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-17 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, FleurDeLis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not! I'm sure, Tiger Woods, isn't the only good, golfer. Neptune, has had a golf team, for years! True. The point being they were pointing out the lack of recreational facilities. For golf, you can come right on

[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-17 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, FleurDeLis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone in this group, think that Blacks and other poor people, choose to live, on the West Side? I am white and live on the East Side and I am a minority. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web,

[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-17 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, FleurDeLis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One word on Asburysteve. He is a human rights activist. I see nothing wrong with him, voicing his first Amendment rights, like all of you. Are you afraid of him, or his message? Call him a naysayer, if you choose, but

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-17 Thread denise
I have listened I have heard him and I have formed my opinion. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-17 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 1/17/2008 11:30:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) , FleurDeLis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One word on Asburysteve. He is a human rights activist. I see nothing wrong with him, voicing his

[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-17 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/17/2008 1:01:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Steve IS Jewish! Well I have sat near him numerous times in Holy Spirit Church at MASS. I think there are two AsburySteves.

[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-17 Thread FleurDeLis
Steve IS Jewish! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, FleurDeLis sharon_b283@ wrote: One word on Asburysteve. He is a human rights activist. I see nothing wrong with him, voicing his first Amendment rights, like all of

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-17 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 1/17/2008 1:01:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Steve IS Jewish! Well I have sat near him numerous times in Holy Spirit Church at MASS. I think there are two AsburySteves. AsburySteve2001 who used to post here back in 2006 is the guy who's

[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-17 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, FleurDeLis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve IS Jewish! Self hate. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings

[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-17 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, FleurDeLis sharon_b283@ wrote: Steve IS Jewish! Self hate. So am I. Jews make mistakes as well. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-17 Thread rook782
Bizzarro world. The nice AsburySteve probably wonders why people are sometimes mean to him. Maybe we need to have an AsburySteve off. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think there are two AsburySteves. AsburySteve2001 who used to post here back in 2006 is

[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-17 Thread FleurDeLis
Wrong Steve. There are 2! Saw photo of the one you guys are talking about. My asburysteve, has a full head of hair! Met him at a Katrina thing, 2 years, ago. I thought he was sweet, in person! Really! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-16 Thread asburycouple
I don't know anything about the other three - but do know that based on this lie and some of his writings I've seen on the APP comments sections he certainly won't be getting my vote... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was reading the AP Press

[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-16 Thread Jack Pitzer
It's Asbury Steve. Who cares about what he has to say? His whole agenda is trashing AP on the APP website whenever possible. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was reading the AP Press online today and found this. Anyone know who the other 3

[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-16 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's Asbury Steve. Who cares about what he has to say? His whole agenda is trashing AP on the APP website whenever possible. He's a communist. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-16 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: It's Asbury Steve. Who cares about what he has to say? His whole agenda is trashing AP on the APP website whenever possible. He's a communist. Yet

[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-16 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any ideas on having Asbury do what most of the county does and hold partisan elections with primaries? Personally I am tired of partisanship. Maybe there can be non-party runoffs to winnow the field. Yahoo! Groups

[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-16 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Any ideas on having Asbury do what most of the county does and hold partisan elections with primaries? Personally I am tired of partisanship.

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-16 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 1/16/2008 9:33:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's Asbury Steve. What a nightmare his candidacy would be for this city! He's Asbury Park's reincarnation of Father Coughlin. _Charles E. Coughlin | historical film footage_

[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-16 Thread rook782
No, if anything, parties are loosing power. The rise of the independent candidates will continue to grow. I'd say in about twenty years the Republican and Democratic parties will be gone. I think Asbury Park is actually ahead of the rest in this area, keep it non-partisan. There is a city

[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-16 Thread oakdorf
More importantly is power. The power to make decisions that have major, major impacts has to be changed - somehow. I guess you can only vote based on how informed you are, your advice of hired experts (independent) and your own professional experience. You can't be right all the time - but a

[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-16 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The west side of our city absolutely needs the same kind of redevelopment opportunities being presented to other parts of the city. I think actually making a major effort to improved the quality of life everywhere in the

[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-16 Thread Jack Pitzer
One of the things that I've always wished for our city would be for the west side to actually rise up and make an effort to change itself...to say to the world look what we've done with our community and make an example of positive change. Unfortunately, I don't think our city, or the west

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-16 Thread denise
ONE QUESTIONWHY DOES OUR CITY HAVE TO BE DIVIDED ONE STATEMENT--WE HAVE THE SAME LEADERS FOR THE WEST SIDE THAT WE HAVE FOR THE EAST SIDE. THE CITY SHOULD RISE AS A WHOLE UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL

[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-16 Thread Jack Pitzer
I totally agree. What I mostly mean is that the west side needs to reject the gangs, the drug dealers, and all of the bad stuff that gives the whole city a bad reputation. Most of the rest of the city has already started to rise up, but because of one small part of the community, the entire city

[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-16 Thread Denise
Hinge maybe you don't see it but drug sales and gangs are not just on the westside---I have reported drug sales that I have seen on the east side---just like you see the prostitution on the east side the prostitution is also on the west side---the drug dealers and gang members do not

[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-16 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Denise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gang members are drug dealers fighting for territorial rights CAMERAS...track them when they come into AP and when they leave. If they come to buy and then leave you watch. Try vacating a couple of streets as well - change

[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-16 Thread Jack Pitzer
Are you kidding me? I've called the PD about drug sales right out front of my house, and if you recall, I'm also the person who called the PD after I found a hypodermic needle in Library Square Park one Sunday morning. I agree that these activities don't just occur on the west side, but if you

[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-16 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . Maybe it's just me, but when I see kids having to play touch football in a ditch on Main Street in front of the train station, something is wrong. Not with the fact that kids are playing, but they have to improvise a

[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-16 Thread Jack Pitzer
Mini golf maybe. Everyday on my drive home down 71, I see kids coming and going at the community centers in Belmar etc. Why don't we have one of those? It certainly would go a long way. There was a kid in my neighborhood who moved away recently. His idea of weekend fun was playing in the street

[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-16 Thread Denise
We are both in agreement with the main concept it needs to be cleaned up. It will have to be a community project---but it can't be a divided community. We are also both in agreement that there really isn't all that much opportunity for the youth of AP, either for jobs (summer or year round)

[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-16 Thread rogerpoulard
Can't City Council/Mayoral elections be held on the regular election day if AP goes partisan? And then we might actually see turnout for local races that exceeds 10%? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, if anything, parties are loosing power. The rise of the

[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-16 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rogerpoulard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't City Council/Mayoral elections be held on the regular election day if AP goes partisan? And then we might actually see turnout for local races that exceeds 10%? Yes that would be one of the upsides. It would also

[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-16 Thread John C. LiDestri
In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mini golf maybe. Everyday on my drive home down 71, I see kids coming and going at the community centers in Belmar etc. Why don't we have one of those? It certainly would go a long way. There was a kid in my neighborhood

[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-16 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, John C. LiDestri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fyi to all.the check cleared. John Congratulations. Look at this way, you might of lost more if you had left in a mutual fund or stock. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!

2008-01-16 Thread Allan Peterson
Great post Oak. Funny, sad and so TRUE - Original Message From: oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 9:09:45 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, John C