[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-12 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think if the cost is higher the escrow and bond will increase. The bonds definitely increase since they are supposed to be matched to actual costs based upon the bids. The escrow never increases above the amount initially

[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-12 Thread bluebishop82
I used to have a fear that Asbury Partners would walk away from the beachfront buildings after making the condo money. After learning more I've corrected that. The goal of Asbury Partners seems to be that they wish to control every commercial establishment from the beach to Grand Avenue.

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-12 Thread Lighty
The goal of Asbury Partners seems to be that they wish to control every commercial establishment from the beach to Grand Avenue. They are are going to control the commercial properties in the fast-track condo buildings too. Just curious... What are your thoughts on one company having so

[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-12 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote: I think if the cost is higher the escrow and bond will increase. The bonds definitely increase since they are supposed to be matched to actual costs based

[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-12 Thread bluebishop82
See the last line of my post for my thoughts on that. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The goal of Asbury Partners seems to be that they wish to control every commercial establishment from the beach to Grand Avenue. They are are going to control the

[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-12 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The goal of Asbury Partners seems to be that they wish to control every commercial establishment from the beach to Grand Avenue. They are are going to control the commercial properties in the fast- track condo

[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-12 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What proceedings? Recent eminant domain proceedings against all of Pat Fasano's properties I used to have a fear that Asbury Partners would walk away from the beachfront buildings after making the condo money.

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-12 Thread Lighty
Recent eminant domain proceedings against all of Pat Fasano's properties (which seems unusally selective since they are so disparate and far apart) by Fishman confirms the latter's desire to control all business there. When is the town going to wake up and have some courage? Places like

[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-12 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 bluebishop82@ wrote: What proceedings? Recent eminant domain proceedings against all of Pat Fasano's properties The city hasn't actually commenced eminent domain

[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-12 Thread Skip Bernstein
Imagine when you try to open a business on the beach and you don't like the lease terms. You go 7 blocks down and you run into the same landlord. You go 3 blocks west and you run into the same landlord. Fear not; The Partners are so incompetent they are near guaranteeing the failure of the

[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-12 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When is the town going to wake up and have some courage? Places like the Wonder Bar should be applauded not destroyed. The town is not the governing body but the people. The people have to come to the council meetings and

[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-12 Thread bluebishop82
Depends on your definition of Eminant Domain proceedings. I try to be pragmatic with the definition and not so technical. In Neptune they had Jewell Marketing help them with a big Press Conference where the Township got to assert that they are doing their redevelopment without eminant domain

[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-12 Thread bluebishop82
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a shame that Asbury Park DOESN'T have a newspaper fighting for these business owners. Gary is this some kind of joke? Don't YOU own a newpaper? Talk about a story that is right up your alley!!! Here are the guys who

[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-12 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty lighty@ wrote: Tommy didn't AP Partners buy the rights to those properties? It's a shame that Asbury Park DOESN'T have a newspaper fighting for these business owners.

[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-12 Thread Jim
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty lighty@ wrote: When is the town going to wake up and have some courage? Places like the Wonder Bar should be applauded not destroyed. The town is not the governing body but

[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-12 Thread bluebishop82
You're right Fred - they bought the right to redevelop them. You make a good point. That's why I'm sure there will be some folks who won't feel so sorry for Pat Fasano. He bought them knowing Larry had the right to take them, so he can't act surprised here. I remember asking him after he

[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-12 Thread wernerapnj
Tommy, HAAA,,H,ROTFL,LOL, HAa You've got me cracking up there. Ha Ha Haa It took you 4 years to figure this out. Well, better late than never.. .actually we should NEVER have gotten to this point. Werner --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL

[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-12 Thread wernerapnj
...Haaa,LOL, HAA I'm still laughing and now even more so, H At least it took you, Dan, only a year or so to figure this out. Congratulations...beats Tommy. Werner --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... The plans thus far are tantamount to a

[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-12 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't think when all is said and done and AP Partners takes those properties that he's going to get back all his money plus more? You're right Fred - they bought the right to redevelop them. You make a

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-12 Thread Lighty
You better lay off AP Press, triCity and Coaster until you take the lead here first, friend. This is more your paper's story than anyone else's. You should devote a month to it. Actually I have written about it often and will continue to write about it; however, this is a story a LOCAL

[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-12 Thread bluebishop82
Werner, Dan and I always knew the plan. We can read like everyone else. What we are figuring out as you inartfully suggest, is whether Asbury Partners is staying or going. There was no proof of them staying in the past. In fact whether they would flip and run has been a constant source of

[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-12 Thread oakdorf
BB, you scared me with no comment about the deal. Glad you see it now. Cush/Wake never even actually signed on board. Their signs went up, but I had a long talk with their agent. End of story. go back a few years and you'll see my early posts about this subject. There is no real need to

[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-12 Thread bluebishop82
No answer on the Higgenbottom's question Oak? I feared I would owe you a six pack by now. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BB, you scared me with no comment about the deal. Glad you see it now. Cush/Wake never even actually signed on board. Their

[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-12 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Depends on your definition of Eminant Domain proceedings. I try to be pragmatic with the definition and not so technical. Perhaps in essence you are right, but I think there is a misconception at work here. I don't

[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-12 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...Haaa,LOL, HAA I'm still laughing and now even more so, H At least it took you, Dan, only a year or so to figure this out. Congratulations...beats Tommy. Werner Calm down fellow misfit toy. I

[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-12 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't think when all is said and done and AP Partners takes those properties that he's going to get back all his money plus more? Right now Fishman is ahead of the game. He is in the black already. You're

[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-12 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually I have written about it often and will continue to write about it; however, this is a story a LOCAL paper should be running non-stop. Don't worry, NYT is coming back to town. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit

[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-12 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if Pat has something up his sleeve here. He's the nicest guy you will ever meet, and certainly is smart. As successful as he's been I don't see him just throwing caution (or money) to the wind.

[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-12 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No answer on the Higgenbottom's question Oak? I feared I would owe you a six pack by now. It's passover. Can't I relax. Make it one more for the Fast lane, for a short period, it might of been called the

[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-12 Thread bluebishop82
OK 3 for the Fast Lane even though I never heard of Barrel. Before Higgenbottoms I believe it was the Hitchin Rail (or vice versa?) I was only at Higgy's a couple of time. I'm talking about late 70' early 80's. Different name. Happy Passover! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL

[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-12 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Wine Barrel was next to Anybodys owned by The Carubias. Burned up. OK 3 for the Fast Lane even though I never heard of Barrel. Before Higgenbottoms I believe it was the Hitchin Rail (or vice versa?) I was

[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-12 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Higgys then the Hitching Rail OK 3 for the Fast Lane even though I never heard of Barrel. Before Higgenbottoms I believe it was the Hitchin Rail (or vice versa?) I was only at Higgy's a couple of time. I'm

[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-12 Thread oakdorf
The Wine Barrel was next to Anybodys owned by The Carubias. Burned up. I was good friends with the Corrbuias. Jules past away recently as did the sis. I have some old photos of them - wining and dining. They jsut sold the corners of Asbury Ave and Mainand Jule's house on Ocean Ave

[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-12 Thread bluebishop82
I knew Kim Carrubia. Remember the Deck House well. I remember the Quack Quack. That was more contemporary to my single days than when it was Empire. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Wine Barrel was next to Anybodys owned by The Carubias. Burned

[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-11 Thread oakdorf
The way I read it, they might fix the 5th ave pav, OR, decide to completely renovate it. No clock starts ticking on the other pavs. FIRE CODE VIOLATIONS - from this faxed and refaxed scan, looks like these violations date back to last year and again this year. So continue to hold events - so

[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-11 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me know the roofer who is doing the P. Plant work for 87k. I can always use a good, cheap roofer. He is only resodding and fertilizing it. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-11 Thread oakdorf
The subcommittee settled for a base hit when it should have swung for the fence. You can't hit without a bat. Looks like that their schedule took about 15 minutes to put together. cut and paste. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-11 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How much should the roofing job cost? Don't all jobs go out for bid and you look for the lowest price? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: Let me know the roofer who is doing the P. Plant work

[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-11 Thread jerseyjohn99
Just when you thought there was nothing left to sell! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The City also gave up its right of default on these issues; it has to go through the arbitration process. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web,

[AsburyPark] Re: Final Agreement

2006-04-11 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: How much should the roofing job cost? Don't all jobs go out for bid and you look for the lowest price? One looks for the lowest price doing the sme work and of