Believe me...I am just as worried about Partners and the timing of the
waterfront as you are.
What do you make of Maureen's Council meeting report that Bruno claims
the deal between Partners and MM is done? I thought there would be a
big announcement when that happened. Maybe it was quietly
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arhythmick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
It's done but not signed. Because the City still has a few issues.
Believe me...I am just as worried about Partners and the timing of
the
waterfront as you are.
What do you make of Maureen's Council meeting report
If it's not signed, it's not done. period. Let's call it what it is -
still pending many months after it was presented as imminent. When
it's signed lets start calling it a done deal.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
That's fair. But it really doesn't make a difference because some
people on this Board will continue to blast whatever happens with it.
If it's not signed, it's not done. period. Let's call it what it
is -
.
- Original Message
From: dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2007 11:20:30 PM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: More Nonsense - 5th Ave Pavillion
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, arhythmick arhythmick@ ... wrote:
Are you sure you read the Coaster
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
They still have time. First floor renovation probably 2 or 3 months? We are
not talking
about knocking down the structure. New electric, plumbing etc. They could
easily get that
done before the summer. The 2nd
You're right, there are people who will blast it regardless of what
it actually is, and others who will support it regardless. But
there are also a great many people like myself who are open-minded
and will judge on the merits. But I increasingly find myself moving
to the skeptical side as I
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: More Nonsense - 5th Ave Pavillion
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@ ... wrote:
They still have time. First floor renovation probably 2 or 3 months? We are
not talking
about knocking down the structure. New electric, plumbing etc. They could
, February 9, 2007 10:21:21 AM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: More Nonsense - 5th Ave Pavillion
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@ ... wrote:
They still have time. First floor renovation probably 2 or 3 months? We are
not talking
about knocking down the structure. New
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I suggested slapping on paint? The 1st floor renovations could be completed
in a rather
short period. I did not mean only paint. If they were now to pick out
materials, permits
etc. They could renovate the 1st
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Forgive my ignorance, but yesterday I read somewhere on here that 1 floor of
the pavillion
would be completed one year, and the second the following year according to
the plan. Is
that correct? If so, that's just plain
I agree too. Two phases is absolutely stupid...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote:
Forgive my ignorance, but yesterday I read somewhere on here that
1 floor of the pavillion
would be
12:05:04 PM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: More Nonsense - 5th Ave Pavillion
I agree too. Two phases is absolutely stupid...
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ ... wrote:
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote:
Forgive my ignorance, but yesterday I read
I am hoping that once MM signs the deal and gets full control over the
waterfront retail, they will see the value in restoring these buildings
quickly in order to get their tenants in quickly and start making
money...
But, when...when...when...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arhythmick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am hoping that once MM signs the deal and gets full control over the
waterfront retail, they will see the value in restoring these buildings
quickly in order to get their tenants in quickly and start making
money...
I say full control because I believe that is part of what is holding
things up...didn't someone on this board who claimed to be in the know
say that the holdup was because MM did not want to share the retail with
AP? That they are the experts and therefore wanted to control the
retail if they
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arhythmick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Of course the goal is for them to start making
money...what else would it be?
The purpose of redevelopment is to repair a damaged community. To
better
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arhythmick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Believe me...I am just as worried about Partners and the timing of
the
waterfront as you are.
What do you make of Maureen's Council meeting report that Bruno
claims
the deal between Partners and MM is done? I
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple asburycouple@
wrote:
That's fair. But it really doesn't make a difference because some
people on this Board will continue to blast whatever happens with it.
No back
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arhythmick arhythmick@
wrote:
It's done but not signed. Because the City still has a few issues.
If it's not signed, it's not done. No obligations. Walk away. Really
unprofessional of
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
They still have time. First floor renovation probably 2 or 3
months? We are not talking about knocking down the structure. New
electric, plumbing etc. They could easily get that done before the
summer. The 2nd
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I suggested slapping on paint? The 1st floor renovations could be
completed in a rather short period. I did not mean only paint. If
they were now to pick out materials, permits etc. They could renovate
the 1st
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I think we all could agree on that. It would be better to do the
building all at once. You will have to take that up with the
counsilmen they created this timeline.
The redevelopment subcommittee - Bruno and
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arhythmick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I am hoping that once MM signs the deal and gets full control over
the
waterfront retail, they will see the value in restoring these
buildings
quickly in order to get their tenants in quickly and start making
money...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@
wrote:
I'll tell you this if they don't get permits by March 1 there will be
NOWAY to get it done. They would have to work day and night. Let's
hope MM is in
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'll tell you this if they don't get permits by March 1 there will be
NOWAY to get it done. They would have to work day and night. Let's
hope MM is in control of the job.
MM could only do it if the plans, funding are all in
: More Nonsense - 5th Ave Pavillion
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, arhythmick arhythmick@ ...
wrote:
Believe me...I am just as worried about Partners and the timing of
the
waterfront as you are.
What do you make of Maureen's Council meeting report that Bruno
claims
the deal between
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What makes you think they will have full control ? The press
release of last year indicated
a partnership with Asbury Partners. Did it not? I'll try to find it.
Also the main goal is not
for them to start making money.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote:
That's the problem the City didn't want any work done on the building
during the summer. They wanted to keep the stores open. That's why its
a two phase deal.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote:
But that's not how Asbury Partners want it.
What makes you think they will have full control ? The press
release of last year indicated
a partnership
The rendering provided by MM is not reassuring, the boarwalk is gone, concrete
plazas fill
the beachfront, ..
werner, is the rendering online? do you have a link? i think ive seen it
before, but not sure if its the same one your talking about? the oen that
shows a Cuvey
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's a RENDERING, a concept, that means NOTHING. Dan said they want
changes already. They try to make a spectacual Rendering to catch
peoples eyes. I bet whatever you have seen won't look what they
really want.
If the design
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's the problem the City didn't want any work done on the
building
during the summer. They wanted to keep the stores open. That's why
its
a two phase deal. That wasn't the Partners idea.
I never accused the city of
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But that's not how Asbury Partners want it.
But that is the only way MM wants it I suspect. Recall my post from a
couple of weeks ago where I aksed if Partners got enough religion now
to accept what MM offers? That is what has
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote:
I don't think there is a Oct. 2007 deadline.
You are the one that picks apart ever sentence of a post.
That's the problem the City didn't want any
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't think there is a Oct. 2007 deadline.
You are the one that picks apart ever sentence of a post.
You're right, it's June 2007. Here's the link to the DRA in the files
section if you don;t know how to get to it on your
It's a RENDERING, a concept, that means NOTHING. Dan said they want
changes already. They try to make a spectacual Rendering to catch
peoples eyes. I bet whatever you have seen won't look what they
really want.
where is the rendering?
-
Looking for
You can find a small version of that here;
http://www.madisonmarquette.com/propertyinvestments/newsdocs/R-Asbury.PDF
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's a RENDERING, a concept, that means NOTHING. Dan said they want
changes already. They try to
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
It's a RENDERING, a concept, that means NOTHING. Dan said they want
changes already. They try to make a spectacual Rendering to catch
peoples eyes. I bet whatever you have seen won't look what they
really want.
Couldn't you agree with you more. The negotiations last year were
to set firm deadlines for Partners based on their prior lack of
performance and were supposed to be monitored and enforced. So
what's the problem? The expectations were clearly set that there
would be tough enforcement.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Couldn't you agree with you more. The negotiations last year were
to set firm deadlines for Partners based on their prior lack of
performance and were supposed to be monitored and enforced. So
what's the problem?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I believe the DR says that the First Floor shall be done by the
summer. 2007 and the Second Floor by the summer of 2008
The summer of 2007 isn't here yet. But time is running out.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote:
I believe the DR says that the First Floor shall be done by the
summer. 2007 and the Second Floor by the summer of 2008
The summer of 2007 isn't here yet. But time
I see your point but I don't believe any action can be taken until the deadline
has past.
- Original Message
From: dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2007 5:34:16 PM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: More Nonsense - 5th Ave Pavillion
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I see your point but I don't believe any action can be taken until
the deadline has past.
Procedure wise to the DRA, I agree. However, that being said, you would
think that a lot more than sending letters of
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@
wrote:
Who says The Letter of Concern is for the 5th Ave Pavillion? I'm sure
there are more issues out there.
I see your point but I don't believe any
Are you sure you read the Coaster article correctly?
I thought the October timing referred to the Casino not the 5th ave
Pavillion...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@
wrote:
I see your
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arhythmick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
That's exactly what it says. Spin it Dan spin it.
Are you sure you read the Coaster article correctly?
I thought the October timing referred to the Casino not the 5th ave
Pavillion...
--- In
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@
wrote:
Who says The Letter of Concern is for the 5th Ave Pavillion? I'm
sure
there are more
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arhythmick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are you sure you read the Coaster article correctly?
I thought the October timing referred to the Casino not the 5th ave
Pavillion...
Point taken, but who knows? The article is about 5th Ave pavillion but
you'r
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