and maybe if these children were in a different district, surrounded by
achievement as the majority and apathy as the minority they might raise their
level of performance. As humans sometimes we get lazy and take the easy way
out only competing to the lowest common denominator. Save the
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
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Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: schools...
and maybe if these children were in a different district, surrounded by
achievement as the majority and apathy as the minority they might raise their
level of performance. As humans sometimes we get
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From: Dave dsher4@...
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Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 17:11:05
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
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Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: schools...
and maybe if these children were in a different district, surrounded by
achievement
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote:
dan...I don't believe in closing the schools. Just address fairly:
As was in the press:
a) The state auditor's report, which covers the period July 2009 to
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote:
I'm still curious about something.
Say the schools close, what happens next? You can't charter the entire
district, so where do they go?
I don't know of a single district in the area that will accept them. I do
know of 3
In a small district like asbury park with little voting taking place to begin
with its fairly easy to figure out to get people elected. Not just asbury but
any little town that has more of one party vs another.
It blows the mindfrom what you read in the paper the circus on the school board.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well there KEv, at least in Long Branch, you have what appears to be
knowledge of Long Branch's success.
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God is not allowed in public school here, He had nothing to do with
it.
You want my tax bill?
Super Joe knew how to play the SCC very well.
I am fighting to reclaim some Board of Ed property that yields no
taxes.
KB
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You want my tax bill?
Super Joe knew how to play the SCC very well.
Truly amazing.
What was the (or will be) the final cost of those schools? And AP
comes up more or less empty.
Bus the kids to long branch.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You want my tax bill?
Super Joe knew how to play the SCC very well.
Truly amazing.
What was the (or will be) the final cost of those schools? And AP
comes up more or less empty.
Bus the kids to long branch.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I saw a picture of Lewis in the APP this morning, with a smug
smile on his face. He appeared
to be laughing his way to the bank.
To bad they can't just fire him, and apply the $400k to $500k to
beefing up the PD.
--- In
But why was his contract renewed a year before it eneded?oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: different money.In regards to contracts, make them all 1 year. If you're good, you get another, if not, you're gone.
Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail.
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john stossels piece aired last night on channel 7 - stupid in america. How
shitty some of our
schools are.
Compared to Belgium, where families get the money to send their kids to a
school of their
choice. The kicker - the schools HAVE to PERFORM and provide services the
parents (and kids
)
The board had decided to buy Lewis out at a total amount of between
$400,000 and $500,000, sources close to the matter said Thursday.
Only in America can people get paid for not working - or for not doing
a good job (so they say)
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I saw a picture of Lewis in the APP this morning, with a smug smile on his
face. He appeared
to be laughing his way to the bank.
To bad they can't just fire him, and apply the $400k to $500k to beefing up the
PD.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The board
different money.
In regards to contracts, make them all 1 year. If you're good, you get
another, if not, you're gone.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From the APP: This is part of an overall commitment by Gov.
Corzine to
increase accountability,'' Davy said. Based on what I've
reviewed, and
that includes looking at how much money they're spending, it's
clear to
me
Ok, but did the borad renew his (Lewis) contract 1 year before it was even due? So at one point her was doing really well that the board had to renew before the end and now want him out? Obviously it is not money so what is it? Sadly the kids suffer dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Skip Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is the council's mishandling of the redevelopment that is the
reason I am critical. That being said, as a taxpayer, I am against
all government waste
You seem to have a lot to say
I can see no
reason why you
I tried sending a lengthy e-mail privately explaining what subjects
I can discuss and those I can't. The e-mail was bounced back to me
as undeliverable. Had I known the e-mail was blocked, I would not
have wasted time. However, the jist of what I said was that the
subject of
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycheech [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycheech asburycheech@
wrote:
Whoever you are,
Good advice from the blog called Reverend Mike's
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Frank:
i do not consider myself a hit and run artist, if you remember i
defended you months ago when BB was attacking you about the district
being in the 3rd year of not meeting goals. if my memory serves me
correct, you
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo apoojo@ wrote:
Sorry Dan but that's his way of not answering the questions and
statements. We were asking questions to the group for discussion,
let's discuss. He called us liars. I
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry Dan but that's his way of not answering the questions and
statements. We were asking questions to the group for discussion,
let's discuss. He called us liars. I have a reliable source and by
Asburycooch's response I see
It is the council's mishandling of the redevelopment that is the
reason I am critical. That being said, as a taxpayer, I am against
all government waste
You seem to have a lot to say
I can see no
reason why you will not identify yourself. Hidden, you can say what
you want with abandon. Put
turn the high school into the new muni center.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Finally somebodyelse sees the light. I really think it's time to remove
all top administaters start with the Super. and his # fan and crnie A.
Bates. Have the State hire new ones. In the mean time the State should
put a team
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'll give you one
example how screwed up they are. They could of saved $ 600,000 on
Health and Dental Insurance. The same coverage $ 600,000 cheaper.
My
sorce tells me it's because the Teachers Union said no. As long as
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycheech [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote:
Time will tell Franky boy.
I'll give you one
example how screwed up they are. They could of saved $ 600,000 on
Health and Dental Insurance. The
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycheech [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote:
Tell us why the Board didn't change Insurance Companys.
I'll give you one
example how screwed up they are. They could of saved $ 600,000 on
Health
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycheech [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote:
Tell us why who gave the Super a five year contract and gave his Asst
a $ 10,000 raise.Why don't you share his contact with this group?
I'll give you
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycheech [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
If I'm wrong then prove it.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote:
I'll give you one
example how screwed up they are. They could of saved $ 600,000 on
Health and Dental Insurance. The
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If your going continue to defend the Super you should change your
name to ASBURYCHOOCH
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycheech asburycheech@
wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycheech [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote:
same amount they could have saved by switching Insurance.Now is
that
the best we can expect from our new Board in the Future. Keep an
eye on
the
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycheech asburycheech@
wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote:
Tell us why the Board didn't change Insurance Companys.
Whoever you are,
Good
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Wait untill the state stops paying the bill for these schools.
Income status for the town has increased and will continue to grow
and
the
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
this is the first time i am hearing a date of when abbott funds
may
stop, while i do not think this will happen , if it did it would
bankrupt this City. Approx. 8-10 years ago the amount of school
taxes has stayed the
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson
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wrote:
I believe it went from $36 Million to $80 Million in 10 years.That's
There are excellent studies related to $ spent and results. (I've
read some of these).
For example - Camden and Newark - both Abbott Districts. End of
story. Crime, murder and corruption - running 1 and 2 in the state.
Small town Tennessee -zippo $. Excellent education programs. South
Amen.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There are excellent studies related to $ spent and results. (I've
read some of these).
For example - Camden and Newark - both Abbott Districts. End of
story. Crime, murder and corruption - running 1 and 2 in the
Wait untill the state stops paying the bill for these schools. Income status for the town has increased and will continue to grow and the new units are build and sold. Once the state stops paying the bills, taxes will jump. Any clues when this could happen?oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Wait untill the state stops paying the bill for these schools.
Income status for the town has increased and will continue to grow and
the new units are build and sold. Once the state stops paying the
bills, taxes
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
particularly important is to remember that the new units will NOT pay
school taxes as that is part of the tax abatement.
I used the above in a discussion not to long ago, and the other person
challenged me on it. I
Thank you Frank.
Sorry that I added an extra L in your last name in my post - won't
happen again.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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particularly important is to remember that the new units will
NOT pay
school taxes as that is part of the tax abatement.
I used the above in
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
They will pay full city taxes ,no school taxes for ten years.Why
should they pay school taxes right now? I doubt there will be many
if
any school age kids moving in there anytime soon. That's an
incentive
to buy. Can you
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem with schools within schools (your example of a
charter
school), while a good idea, leaves with the idea that the best and
brightest will be educated, while the rest will be left in the
system. While I know you
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycheech
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For example, if the
BOE wanted one of the schools to have uniforms as a rule, it would
have to be a charter-type school. If we wanted a performing arts
program, and could not afford to have four such programs for
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