Re: [Assam] Fw: Bangladeshis -the flip side of the story

2010-08-19 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Assam many centuries ago and > their > > descendants have as much right to remain in Assam, as any of the tribes, > > hills or plain. That includes Kamal Deka, Chandan Mahanta, me and many > others. > > Ram Sarangapani gets his rights by assimilation later. :-) > > &

Re: [Assam] Bangladeshis -the flip side of the story

2010-08-18 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Very well put KJD. Many of the discussions like this involve a number of dichothomies. Quite often, we find some groups of people demanding a unique identity for Assam (or Kashmir as the case may be). The central theme is such cases is Assam is so different from the rest of India, shares little w

Re: [Assam] About Argumentum Ad Hominem

2010-08-17 Thread Ram Sarangapani
. > But again,we should keep in mind that what goes around,comes around or > simply stated SOW THE WIND REAP THE WHIRLWIND!!! > KJD > > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Ram Sarangapani > wrote: > > Hehehe! > > > > Argumentum ad hominem? Some examples might be n

[Assam] ISI's sudden turnaround: Says terror bigger threat than India --TOI

2010-08-17 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Well, many people could have told Pakistan that they face far more bigger threats than India long time ago. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/pakistan/ISIs-sudden-turnaround-Says-terror-bigger-threat-than-India/articleshow/6326267.cms ___ assam m

Re: [Assam] About Argumentum Ad Hominem

2010-08-17 Thread Ram Sarangapani
han Mahanta wrote: > Funny, isn't it Ram ? > > But it may NOT be so funny, if I publish a set of selected quotes. Would > you like me to ? > I can comply, you know, even though it would become very acrimonious? > > c-da :-) > > > > > > > On Aug 16, 2010, at

Re: [Assam] About Argumentum Ad Hominem

2010-08-16 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Hehehe! Argumentum ad hominem? Some examples might be nice. I don't think I ever come across that disease around Texas. Have you KJD? Perhaps, it is raging in other parts (not to be named :-)). I think, it is time for the good Daktor Haatimuria to descent from his perch in the Ozarks (I think),

Re: [Assam] Indian Forces Face Broader Revolt in Kashmir - NYT

2010-08-16 Thread Ram Sarangapani
OF ASSAM IS FILLED WITH SUCH SPECIES,IN WHICH DIRECTION DO > I THINK OUR DEAR STATE WILL BE RACING BUT DOWN. > THICK-HEADED YES--BLIND TOO. > IS THERE A POINT IN CONTINUING CONVERSATION WITH SUCH SPECIMENS? FOR > MY MONEY--CERTAINLY NO. > > KJD > > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 6:0

Re: [Assam] Indian Forces Face Broader Revolt in Kashmir - NYT

2010-08-16 Thread Ram Sarangapani
that harbors, and facilitates terror. They have no defense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka < > > > > dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If Terrorism in India is due to Pakistan, Bangladesh & China, then > the > &g

Re: [Assam] Indian Forces Face Broader Revolt in Kashmir - NYT

2010-08-16 Thread Ram Sarangapani
t; > > > > > India is faced by a 3rd enemy - a far more insidious one, an enemy > from > > > > > within. This enemy will feed on precious Indian resources, get arms > > > > > from China and Pakistan, use Bangladesh and other places as camps, > and > > > then > > > > > have teary-eyed HR groups crying foul and ill-tr

Re: [Assam] Indian Forces Face Broader Revolt in Kashmir - NYT

2010-08-16 Thread Ram Sarangapani
in the world can you name that has this problem, of its own > > people up in arms against itself? And does it tell you something ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 16, 2010, at 2:35 PM, Ram Sarangapani wrote: > >

Re: [Assam] Indian Forces Face Broader Revolt in Kashmir - NYT

2010-08-16 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Religion, language, culture and economics. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Chan Mahanta > wrote: > > > >>> India is faced by a 3rd enemy - a far more insidious one, an enemy from > >>> withi

Re: [Assam] Indian Forces Face Broader Revolt in Kashmir - NYT

2010-08-16 Thread Ram Sarangapani
s crying foul and ill-treatment at every turn. > > Let us assume that is true. If so, what other major 'democratic' > country in the world can you name that has this problem, of its own > people up in arms against itself? And does it tell you something ? > > >

[Assam] Indian Forces Face Broader Revolt in Kashmir - NYT

2010-08-16 Thread Ram Sarangapani
This appeared in the NYT a couple of days ago. As usual, the NYT seems to be against India and its position vis-a-vis Kashmir. Many Indians think (and rightly so) - that the Kashmir problem will not stop with Kashmir. Pakistan will make sure to encroach deeper and deeper into India, by pumping in

Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI

2010-08-14 Thread Ram Sarangapani
tities and > > > > devise ways to manage their destinies , to be RESPONSIVE to their unique > needs, > > WITHOUT > > being held to ransom by far-flung forces that have NO DESIRE or ABILITY > to deal > > with THEIR > > specific needs. > > > > AU

Re: [Assam] (no subject)

2010-08-14 Thread Ram Sarangapani
be violation of the same freedom,he is entitled to. > My objection is --why near ground zero only. > KJD > > > > Read more: > http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/mosque_madness_at_ground_zero_OQ34EB0MWS0lXuAnQau5uL#ixzz0wYJK3BPE > > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:1

Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI

2010-08-14 Thread Ram Sarangapani
; > 'autonomy' happens to be the flavor of the day, > > or because some people are very passionate about an autonomy (now that > > outright independence is out of reach). > > > Yiou don't get it , do you Ram :-)? See above. > > > > Of c

Re: [Assam] More on Corruptwealth Gaming - The Emperor's Diktats

2010-08-14 Thread Ram Sarangapani
>*** IF even the PM is IGNORANT of the fundamental concepts of the DEMOCRACY he is the head of, what could anyone expect of most of the >rest? You are absolutely correct. This PM is as ignorant as they come. He probably thinks he is the king, (a PM with powers of a king). The sadder part is there

Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI

2010-08-14 Thread Ram Sarangapani
HOUT > being held to ransom by far-flung forces that have NO DESIRE or ABILITY to > deal with THEIR > specific needs. > > AUTONOMY, is the way for such redemption for some. And a true and > meaningful FEDERAL arrangement > could be for others. > > That is the bottom l

Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI

2010-08-14 Thread Ram Sarangapani
> turn things around. > > And WHO will do that? WHEN? Has it started. Will it ever? > > If it has not even started, how could it be started? If it has, where, > what, how? > > > > > > > > > On Aug 14, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Ram Sarangapani wrote: > > >

Re: [Assam] My Article in Assam Tribune - Scintillating Singapore

2010-08-14 Thread Ram Sarangapani
he question is, where does India fall? > > *** Good question Ram. Why don't you tell us what YOU think. > > Perhaps you can, for starters, expand on your theorem: > > > it is because it's own people have > > neglected it, > > > I am sure there will be other

Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI

2010-08-14 Thread Ram Sarangapani
C'da, Thanks for fwding this. Really good - just loved it. >Only one complaint: Tiwari shoud have addressed it to the WORST of them all, not ALL of India. Ain't right to paint everyone with the same brush. But let's look at it from Tiwari's angle: Everywhere he looks, there is corruption - it'

Re: [Assam] My Article in Assam Tribune - Scintillating Singapore

2010-08-14 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Hi JS, >Punishment can be severe - from caning to jail terms. Behind all the >glitz and glamour a lot of Singaporeans are unhappy. If I remember correctly, this topic came up a few years ago on this net. At that time there was an attempt to compare India with S'Pore, and that India possibly emula

Re: [Assam] (no subject)

2010-08-13 Thread Ram Sarangapani
The President did the right thing. The Constitution guarantees the rights to build a place of worship on private land - whatever the religion. On a practical/political level, may be the President could have kept to the sidelines. I would have been disappointed if he had not sided with the mosque b

Re: [Assam] The autonomy issue

2010-08-13 Thread Ram Sarangapani
ernment aid > >> > >> Ø whose area, boundaries and name cannot be altered without the > >> consent of the state government > >> > >> Ø whose legislative assembly has a tenure of six years > >> > >> Ø where no amendment of

[Assam] East India Company reborn - From CNN

2010-08-13 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Interesting clip here. Did not know that it was Assam Tea that was used in the Boston Tea Party. http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/business/2010/08/13/boulden.east.india.company.cnn?hpt=Sbin --Ram ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet

Re: [Assam] The autonomy issue

2010-08-12 Thread Ram Sarangapani
clare emergency for reasons only of internal disturbance in the > state (Article 352) > > Ø where emergency declared under Article 356 can become > applicable without suspending the machinery of the state constitution > > Ø where fiscal emergency cannot be declared (Article

Re: [Assam] Is India Govt wasting its time chasing BlackBerry?

2010-08-12 Thread Ram Sarangapani
This from Reuters. It looks like RIM has been having problems with a number of countries, including China & a few individuals like me:-) If you forget to lock the damn keyboard, it might dial China or Timbuktu (the famous Indian butt trick :-)). Google, I think, has got out of China. --Ram ___

Re: [Assam] The autonomy issue

2010-08-12 Thread Ram Sarangapani
as to be contextual. Autonomy to quell what is going on in > Kashmir could be different > from what could work for Assam. Similarly for other states too. > > Other states? Yes Ram. They need it as well. Because the dysfunctional > central Indian rule is killing them too. >

Re: [Assam] The autonomy issue

2010-08-12 Thread Ram Sarangapani
meaningless. > > > > > > > On Aug 12, 2010, at 11:24 AM, Ram Sarangapani wrote: > > > The PM recently made a remark about being open to discussing the issue of > > autonomy for Jammu & Kashmir (within the ambit of the Constitution). > > > > Maybe someone

Re: [Assam] An open letter to the Prime Minister

2010-08-12 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Oh C'da Uttam was only meant this part for me. I have not hard feelings. I guess I use ..'gotta run' too often. I'll have to come to the 'State of the state of the people who desire a state when already in a state' a bit later, as this requires a well-thought response. :-) Till then, gotta run.

[Assam] The autonomy issue

2010-08-12 Thread Ram Sarangapani
The PM recently made a remark about being open to discussing the issue of autonomy for Jammu & Kashmir (within the ambit of the Constitution). Maybe someone knows, but what exactly is the meaning of 'autonomy' as held by the PM? By the time politicos & spin masters get through with it, the meaning

Re: [Assam] An open letter to the Prime Minister

2010-08-12 Thread Ram Sarangapani
>Having said that, why don't YOU tell us reasons behind the demand for the ever increasing >number of states, what the causes at the root of the phenomenon is? I thought I too might as well join the fray. I know my explanations will also be summarily shot down - but what the heck! IMHO, the main

Re: [Assam] Critical Thinking

2010-08-12 Thread Ram Sarangapani
>This is what came originally. No link. I too thought so too - there was no link. But I do have a short attention span, so won't complain :-) --RAm On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Chan Mahanta wrote: > This is what came originally. No link. > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: Dilip

Re: [Assam] Critical Thinking

2010-08-11 Thread Ram Sarangapani
si-children :-). > > > > > > On Aug 11, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Ram Sarangapani wrote: > > >> It is encouraging to see that some in Guwahati are realizing the > importance > > of critcal thinking in developing a child's brain. The tradition of rote > >> learning wo

Re: [Assam] Critical Thinking

2010-08-11 Thread Ram Sarangapani
>It is encouraging to see that some in Guwahati are realizing the importance of critcal thinking in developing a child's brain. The tradition of rote >learning would fade if more of such activities are undertaken. I am not sure how child psychologists weigh critical thinking against rote learning,

Re: [Assam] The opening ceremony

2008-08-09 Thread Ram Sarangapani
On a slightly different note, we keep hearing that China has basically overspent for the show (I think $70 B), and that it will run at a loss. In the long run, it should however make it all up. I agree with you about India though. India has only a "wish list" and a lot of chest-thumping going arou

[Assam] Even God will not be able to save this country - From the TOI

2008-08-05 Thread Ram Sarangapani
It is pleasantly surprising that the SC in India has been able to muster up the courage to state something like this bluntly. Maybe times are a changing. --Ram PS: there are some great comments from TOI readers - see link below. ___ NEW DELHI: "Even God will not be able to save this

Re: [Assam] Swami Ramdev on Kamakhya sacrifices (2005- Archive)

2008-07-29 Thread Ram Sarangapani
There has been a lot written about this horrible practice in Assamnet. Around this same time, there was also a thread by Rajen Barua on "The opposite of Human Sacrifice", and many of us joined in. People might want to read those views too. I would submit that our views remain the same. Pallavi Bar

[Assam] Jonathan Yardley on 'Now the Hell Will Start' - Wash. Post

2008-07-22 Thread Ram Sarangapani
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/10/AR2008071002338.html?sub=AR http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/03/AR2008060303880_4.html For those interested. The two links are reviews of a novel by Jonathan Yardley. (Washington Post). This is the s

Re: [Assam] Dogs again?

2008-07-22 Thread Ram Sarangapani
e. > > My eroding memory might have been caused by things I ate in my > younger days that I should not have, you think ? > > Or could it be because I was taking too many liberties with the truth :-)? > > Dog-gone it! > > > > > > > > At 9:32 AM -0500 7/22/

[Assam] Dogs again?

2008-07-22 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Last night, browsing thru our own Assamnet archives, I came across something. Interestingly, we did discuss Meneka Gandhi, kukur pitha, and Assam just last year. http://www.mail-archive.com/assam@assamnet.org/msg11510.html I guess, we will be doing it again next year or so. --Ram ___

[Assam] Animal sacrifice - warning, gory photos

2008-07-21 Thread Ram Sarangapani
http://www.animalrightsindia.com/index.php/2008/03/20/dhoni-the-goat-killer/ Now here is a story from March, that must have caught Ambika Shukla's attention. The Indian cricket skipper celebrated his Australia win by .. what else... sacrificing a goat! PETA's response was basically a slap on the

[Assam] A touch of history

2008-07-21 Thread Ram Sarangapani
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9B02EED61F31E033A25753C1A9659C94659ED7CF&oref=slogin I happened to stumble into this interesting piece from the New York Times (in pdf). It is about a Capt. Maxwell, whose troops sustained serious losses in Assam in 1894 (probably March). 30 m

Re: [Assam] Murder Most Foul

2008-07-18 Thread Ram Sarangapani
I forgot to add, any letter we write to her should be copied to all her friends - that is her base. On 7/18/08, Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear Saleh Sahib, > > Thanks for forwarding the information. > > IMHO, we have to act in unison and get one le

Re: [Assam] Murder Most Foul

2008-07-18 Thread Ram Sarangapani
D] Namens > DR BIKASH KUMAR DAS > Verzonden: vrijdag 18 juli 2008 21:10 > Aan: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world; > Ram Sarangapani > Onderwerp: Re: [Assam] Murder Most Foul > > Ram dada, > Thanks. I will do for you. > meanwhile since Amb

Re: [Assam] Murder Most Foul

2008-07-18 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Hi BK I have already put all correspondence with her on Assam net. It is there for everyone. Thanks R On 7/18/08, DR BIKASH KUMAR DAS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Friends, > My request to you all, to kindly email me all the protests/communications > that was sent to Ambika/received from her

Re: [Assam] Murder Most Foul - Pets

2008-07-18 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Delhi and other places who find your article reprehensible - so it is NOT > JUST ME. > > People still await a sincere apology from you, Ms. Shukla. Do the right > thing. > > Sincerely & once again with best wishes. > > Ram Sarangapani > Texas, USA > > > > On 7

Re: [Assam] Murder Most Foul - Pets

2008-07-18 Thread Ram Sarangapani
reprehensible - so it is NOT JUST ME. People still await a sincere apology from you, Ms. Shukla. Do the right thing. Sincerely & once again with best wishes. Ram Sarangapani Texas, USA On 7/18/08, ambika shukla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Please do not use this corresponde

[Assam] Fwd: Murder Most Foul - Pets

2008-07-18 Thread Ram Sarangapani
My response to Ms. Shukla -- Forwarded message -- From: Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Jul 18, 2008 9:22 AM Subject: Re: Murder Most Foul - Pets To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Ms. Shukla, Thanks for you response. Frankly, I was not expecting any. It is surprising

[Assam] Fwd: Murder Most Foul - Pets

2008-07-18 Thread Ram Sarangapani
This is the response from Ms. Shukla -- Forwarded message -- From: ambika shukla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Jul 18, 2008 7:40 AM Subject: Re: Murder Most Foul - Pets To: Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It is nice to get a lecture from some NRI on the history and

Re: [Assam] Subject: Re: Murder Most Foul

2008-07-17 Thread Ram Sarangapani
lhi. > > I suppose Manoj Daa can do something through Assam Association Delhi. > > Thanks, Sashanka > > > > > --- On Thu, 17/7/08, Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Assam] Subject: Re

Re: [Assam] Subject: Re: Murder Most Foul

2008-07-17 Thread Ram Sarangapani
I think it would be great idea for many people to write to the DC. Is Shukla based in Delhi or Hyderabad? Depending on that, Assamese residents of Hyd/Delhi could actually go personally and meet with the chief editiors. call a press conference etc. Someone maybe could also write a counter article a

Re: [Assam] Murder Most Foul - Pets

2008-07-16 Thread Ram Sarangapani
le, and you don't do the country any favors. But, I have a lot of confidence in the Deccan Chronicle's readership. They will, I am sure, give your article the attention it deserves and understand the gist of my protest here. I sincerely hope the Deccan Chronicle will publish this stron

Re: [Assam] Murder Most Foul

2008-07-15 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Excellent C'da. On 7/15/08, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Amazing tale! And even more amazing is the state > of Indian journalism and its 'democracy' . > > Allow me to introduce myself: I am an ethnic > Assamese , living in the USA and an observer of > Indian Institutions of democra

Re: [Assam] Murder Most Foul

2008-07-15 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Hi JS, >"Beating an animal to death" is certainly not a humane way of killing an >animal for food. I agree. It certainly is cruel. But animal cruelty is practised quite a bit in India. We sacrifice animals in the name of religion (not for food). Chicken/ducks are summarily beheaded, and the sacre

Re: [Assam] My gratitude to Assamnet

2008-07-15 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Dear Das, Congratulations! Thanks you for forwarding your website. It does have a lot of information that would be very beneficial to tourists all over. You have put together a wonderful set of photographs. I am glad that you are able to establish yourself firmly in Bangalore. It is a wonderful p

Re: [Assam] Fwd: Murder Most Foul - Pets

2008-07-15 Thread Ram Sarangapani
On 7/15/08, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Terrific Ram. > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 11:53 AM -0500 7/15/08, Ram Sarangapani wrote: > > Not sure if this made it to Assamnet before. Anyway forwarding here. > >__

[Assam] Fwd: Murder Most Foul - Pets

2008-07-15 Thread Ram Sarangapani
he punishment you recommend? Bottom line, Ms. Shukla, your article hurts a lot of people, and you don't do the country any favors. But, I have a lot of confidence in the Deccan Chronicle's readership. They will, I am sure, give your article the attention it deserves and understand the gis

Re: [Assam] Murder Most Foul

2008-07-15 Thread Ram Sarangapani
I kind agree with Uttam here. Life Magazine (I think) it seems, many years ago, brought out an article with some gory photos of how spring lambs were slaughtered in the US (for veal preparation). It seems a new born lamb was immediately suspended in air (upon birth) - that way the flesh would be t

Re: [Assam] assam Digest, Vol 36, Issue 11

2008-07-11 Thread Ram Sarangapani
deka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Dear > Friends, > Sri Chan Mahanta & Ram Sarangapani > I regret for my massage on 'poor editing' . I had no intention to to be > critical and hurt anyone. It was a simple queries of a new and ignorant > netizen. If yo

Re: [Assam] Flowers etc.

2008-07-11 Thread Ram Sarangapani
f them in > ours. > > The last shot of the album is excellent. If you send me the file, I > will be pleased to compose/crop it for you to enlarge and frame. > > c-da > > > > > > > > > > > At 10:45 AM -0500 7/10/08, Ram Sarangapani wrote: > >

Re: [Assam] Flowers etc.

2008-07-10 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Thanks PG. Did you notice in one of the photos of the hills (you would have to see it enlarged), there seems to be a cross and a face on the hillside? On 7/10/08, Phanindra Goyari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nice pictures.. > > > > > http://picasaweb.google.com/rsarang22/FlowersEtcB

Re: [Assam] Fw: Poor Editing

2008-07-10 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Hehehe..I think Kar babu is pulling our legs.I think, all he wants is a massage - he has repeated it several times, and the concern about them arrow heads is just incidental. anyway thats what I read between the lines.. R On 7/10/08, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nom

[Assam] Flowers etc.

2008-07-10 Thread Ram Sarangapani
http://picasaweb.google.com/rsarang22/FlowersEtcBloreKodaiMadurai This time we had the opportunity to visit Bangalore, Kodaikanal, Mamallpuram and Madurai. I took some photos - amature stuff. In Bangalore and also in Kodai, Mamallapuram, we noticed the landscape dotted with what the locals call t

Re: [Assam] Of Generals as Governors

2008-07-10 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Uttam - good points. Without having read what the Bard wrote (yet). :):). I would like to weigh in a bit. The US has had generals who became really good Presidents, and has had lousy runs from Presidents who ran away from military duties ( George Bush). But that is the USA. In the examples you c

[Assam] Assam & Corruption

2008-07-09 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Now that Assam has the dubious distinction of being the most corrupt state in one of the most corrupt countries in the world, maybe people might want to concentrate their efforts in aiming for 2nd place. At the very least they could write high-flying articles in the AT and The Sentinel and spearhe

Re: [Assam] Solar Screens

2008-07-08 Thread Ram Sarangapani
> them to the USA, if they are reliable, now that energy cost is > skyrocketing and low cost of manufacturing in India. In fact I would > like to buy a few myself if they are available here. Surprised that > China did not get into it and exporting them like everything else > they a

[Assam] Solar Screens

2008-07-08 Thread Ram Sarangapani
http://picasaweb.google.com/rsarang22/SolarScreens On our recent trip to Bangalore, I noticed a number of homes have solar screens on their rooftops. I took some photos of these ( I have never seen these at such close range). One manufacturer is Tata BPSolar, but couldn't make out the other manuf

Re: [Assam] Grumbling GAME-Swapnil Bharali (Horizon, The Assam Tribune, July 05, 2008)

2008-07-07 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Just like to butt in and make a few observations if I could. Swapnil seems to have a good command over the language, and his writing seems to be interpersed with a dash of Gable here and dash of Americanism ("helluva") there. I am, of course, assuming he is a young man (Thanks C'da for the intro),

[Assam] India, China nearly at par in terms of corruption

2008-06-26 Thread Ram Sarangapani
This from Yahoo (India) News. Hehehe! If I were a betting man, I would bet, that in this game, China will be out-classed by India. --Ram India, China nearly at par in terms of corruption *Denmark, Finland, New Zealand in least corrupt nations tally * New York: India has been ranked a lowly 74,

Re: [Assam] Fw: Letter to the Editor.

2008-06-13 Thread Ram Sarangapani
keptical if their future generations will retain anything Assamese. :-) > Dilip Deka > > ========== > > > - Original Message > From: Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: A Mailing

Re: [Assam] Fw: Letter to the Editor.

2008-06-13 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Dear Barua, Excellent response, I couldn't have said it better. While Assamese NRIs may have their faults, I cannot imagine that any single one would ever claim the following: (Color/bold mine). *" It is too facile of an argument,* *often made by the expatriate Asomiyas, that teaching children th

Re: [Assam] From ToI

2008-06-12 Thread Ram Sarangapani
; even more disconcerting was when a Board Member of the Temple next > -door told me a few weeks back, in whispers, of the horror stories > they experience, in their TEMPLE! > > Is there something genetic here :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 10:

Re: [Assam] From ToI

2008-06-12 Thread Ram Sarangapani
n desi-enclave ( I am not sure what it is called), or > Devon Street area of Chicago, or Jackson Heights in NY. Are they > particularly unkempt, with trash strewn around for example? > > > > > > > > > > > At 9:51 AM -0500 6/12/08, Ram Sarangapani wrote: > >C&#

Re: [Assam] From ToI

2008-06-12 Thread Ram Sarangapani
C'da, >*** Is there any reason for such a perception among westerners or >is it a case of racism? I don't think one can call it 'racism' but rather some sort of prejudice or perceived notion. If one were to visit certain parts of India, citizens are least bothered about throwing garbage out of t

Re: [Assam] NYTimes.com: Inside Gate, India's Good Life; Outside, the Servants' Slums

2008-06-09 Thread Ram Sarangapani
e > >>residents manicure their lawns with their own money, where is the > >>problem? > >>Should the residents of Gurgaon spend time and money in improving > >>the lives of Shephali Das and her kids? MOST DEFINITELY. > >>Most entrepreneurs in the western

Re: [Assam] NYTimes.com: Inside Gate, India's Good Life; Outside, the Servants' Slums

2008-06-08 Thread Ram Sarangapani
C'da thanks for the article, its a good article (though not an eye opener) and Umesh, you raise some good points. One is left wondering which is worse, a country that can possibily afford to eradicate poverty within its boundaries, or a country that flaunts its riches that it can ill afford to. :)

Re: [Assam] 10 most intellectual places in USA

2008-06-08 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Hehehe ... good ole Houston, Texas is not on the list. But I am comfortable here, as I fit right in :) On 6/8/08, Rajen & Ajanta Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Interesting to see the survey result for 10 most intellectual places in USA > to live. > > a.. Ann Arbor, Mich. > a.. Berkeley, Cali

Re: [Assam] Ripun Bora

2008-06-06 Thread Ram Sarangapani
KC, >About the benefit of doubt -- had it not been Ripun >Bora would you think about giving him benefit of >doubt. Did you think about benefit of doubt when (for >example) Oh! I wasn't suggesting that the whole world give him the benefit of doubt - just netters. Yes, it is precisely becau

Re: [Assam] Ripun Bora

2008-06-06 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Hi KC, Let me try to answer as best as I can. First things first, though. I should outright say that I have known Ripun since our Cotton College days. We are good friends. I have always enquired about him, and he has of me thru other friends. Of course, I have not seen him for well over 25 years.

Re: [Assam] Self-help groups in Assam transform rural economy - IANS

2008-06-06 Thread Ram Sarangapani
t; right > > to fill his pocket with ill-gotten money.The issue of corruption,a vital > > one,is a different kettle of fish .After scanning media reports,I don't > find > > an iota of indication that the sting operation was carried out on > account of > > perso

Re: [Assam] Self-help groups in Assam transform rural economy - IANS

2008-06-06 Thread Ram Sarangapani
n was carried out on account > of > personal vendetta.What I do best is collate information and draw my own > inference. > KJD > > > On 6/4/08, Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >We all know that.We also know that India is a democratic countr

Re: [Assam] Self-help groups in Assam transform rural economy - IANS

2008-06-04 Thread Ram Sarangapani
bability at this stage and our opinion ought to be based on that. > > Every major organization,editorial notes of both vernacular and English > dailies and public at large did voice their views in protest.One should not > expect citizens to rock the state with agitation over su

Re: [Assam] Self-help groups in Assam transform rural economy - IANS

2008-06-04 Thread Ram Sarangapani
tribution. > > Since, we cannot cover all points in brief write-ups, there would be > inaccuracies and moreso our texts do not carry our facial or body gesture > with them. Words are inadequate, and cannot substitute realisation. > > Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: &

Re: [Assam] Self-help groups in Assam transform rural economy - IANS

2008-06-04 Thread Ram Sarangapani
corrupt in Assam on Bora - after all, he is the one that caught, right? --Ram On 6/4/08, kamal deka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ram Sarangapani, > Assuming that the trap was set up by the CBI,why did Ripun dangariya walk > into it? > In regard to the opinion inflict

Re: [Assam] Self-help groups in Assam transform rural economy - IANS

2008-06-04 Thread Ram Sarangapani
ing outfit and > is capable of intimidation. Ripun Bora, in contrast, has a wellknown history > and we can come to some highly probabilistic conclusion ( none can judge > himself for sure till death) about Sri Bora, cannot we? Ram Da, it is my > request that a question or a comment should tak

Re: [Assam] Self-help groups in Assam transform rural economy - IANS

2008-06-03 Thread Ram Sarangapani
ficult to decipher from here what is > >"behind" any news item anymore. > > > *** 'Any more'? Come now Ram, WHEN was it reliable ? > > > > > *** I think the bigger urge is the need to feel good about India > doing good by Assam and thus the attempt at

Re: [Assam] Fwd: Re: Los Angeles Times on Northeast India

2008-06-02 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Umesh, That would be Brahmaputra or Brahma's son.Supposedly, the only male river in India, all the rest are feminine. I am not sure about a river like Ravi in the Punjab - sounds like a male name. --Ram da On 6/2/08, Manoj Das <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hi Umesh > > This male river in ques

Re: [Assam] Self-help groups in Assam transform rural economy - IANS

2008-06-02 Thread Ram Sarangapani
a poor farmer in Assam without a > history like the person in question and his cohorts have. So let us not > repeat the bane of being euphoric or depressed too fast. These days news > reports are also not very innocuous. > > Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now, h

[Assam] Self-help groups in Assam transform rural economy - IANS

2008-06-02 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Now, here is some great, positive news! And for those of us who see everything is wrong with Dilli, the Swarnjayanti Gram Swarozgar Yojana initiated by Dilli is doing wonders. Highlights mine. --Ram Self-help groups in Assam transform rural economy (Feature) June 1st, 2008 - 12:59 p

[Assam] Tea companies prefer Kolkata auction to Guwahati centre - The Hindu

2008-06-02 Thread Ram Sarangapani
And I always thought this matter was settled, and tea was being auctioned at Guwahati, and the GTAC was operating in full swing. Highlights mine. --Ram __ Tea companies prefer Kolkata auction to Guwahati centre Guwahati (PTI): Major tea companies operating in Assam are

Re: [Assam] FW: CIVIL ENGINEER FROM PUNJAB UNIVERSITY........

2008-06-01 Thread Ram Sarangapani
C'da, A picture though, is worth athousand words :) --Ram Jun, Jun 1, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > O'Deka: > > Aapuni baaru kelei eibilaak kothat xwmaaise hoyne'? > > ( Why are you getting into things like these?) > > > There is a very simple explanation. The > sta

Re: [Assam] FW: CIVIL ENGINEER FROM PUNJAB UNIVERSITY........

2008-06-01 Thread Ram Sarangapani
That was hilarious - thanks On 5/31/08, Dilip&Dil Deka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The stairway to nowhere. Open the attached file to get a view. > Was it built per the design drawing? Who knows? > Enjoy the newly built house in Punjab!! > -- Forwarded Message: -- > Subj

Re: [Assam] Bangladeshi Herket-Ul Jehadi bomb 75 in western India

2008-05-14 Thread Ram Sarangapani
You are correct JS. On the one hand the Center is either unwilling or incapable to stem the flow of illegal B'deshis or both, and on the other, India is full of illegal B'deshi sympathizers. These people are interested either in short-term personal/political profits or are in cahoots with B'Desh (o

Re: [Assam] cbi probe

2008-05-03 Thread Ram Sarangapani
t;*** All the myriad of scams across the length and breadth of India. >*** Bofors >*** OIL for Food >*** The Fertilizer scam > > > Need I go on? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 9:13 AM -0500 5/3/

Re: [Assam] cbi probe

2008-05-03 Thread Ram Sarangapani
and IF the CBI ignored it, all this would have been Dilli's fault. The can't win, can they? :) Seriously, I am glad that the the CBI is looking into this. This spate of rhino killings must be some organized effort which includes powerful people, maybe even Bangladeshis, 'illegal aliens', insurge

Re: [Assam] Building a prosperous Assam

2008-04-23 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Dear Manoj, First let me congratulate on the editorial. This is an interesting topic, and there are also some interesting views (none bad, just different) and they are all important. I don't know much about dredging. All I know is that Assam has been dredging the Brahmaputra for a long time and i

Re: [Assam] Building a prosperous Assam

2008-04-23 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Dear Manoj, First let me congratulate on the editorial. This is an interesting topic, and there are also some interesting views (none bad, just different) and they are all important. I don't know much about dredging. All I know is that Assam has been dredging the Brahmaputra for a long time and i

[Assam] Technology will soon override tradition at India's tea markets -IHT

2008-04-20 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Is an old tradition coming to an end? Maybe this change is indeed good for a sagging Assam tea industry. Nevertheless, it is sad to see an old tradition coming to an end. >From the International Herald Tribune. Highlings mine. --Ram http://www.iht.com/bin/printfriendly.php?id=11919452 _

[Assam] 'Satyagraha' the Opera from the NYT

2008-04-14 Thread Ram Sarangapani
For those interested, this might be something you would like. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/14/arts/music/14saty.html?pagewanted=print April 14, 2008 Music Review | 'Satyagraha' Fanciful Visions on the Mahatma's Road to Truth and Simplicity By ANTHONY TOMMASINI

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