[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2006-06-02 Thread seanadams
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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SMPS vs Linear: Jitter

2006-06-02 Thread seanadams
Ben Diss Wrote: It would be interesting to see the results of this test in an enivronment with dirty AC power. -Ben I assure you our office power is about as heinous as it gets, with air conditioners and dozens of computers flat-topping the AC. If I have time tomorrow I'll measure and

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2006-06-02 Thread Andyoz
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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Upgrade SB3 Power Supply with outboard DAC?

2006-06-02 Thread Heuer
From personal experience: 1. Linear PSU with analogue outs is big improvement over stock 2. Standard PSU with external DAC is big improvement over stock 3. Linear PSU with external DAC is big improvement over stock and smaller (but noticebale) improvement over mods 1 and 2. ALAC and FLAC show

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SMPS vs Linear: Jitter

2006-06-02 Thread Ben Diss
Sean- That would be great. It would be neat to see what your power looks like compared to mine. I think I have pretty good power in my home and I have looked at it on the scope, but alas I don't have a scope with the resolution that lil' bad boy has. How could you test to see if the AC noise

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2006-06-02 Thread Amauta
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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2006-06-02 Thread ModelCitizen
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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2006-06-02 Thread Andyoz
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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2006-06-02 Thread Khuli
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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB/Tact/NuForce

2006-06-02 Thread azinck3
Phil Leigh Wrote: In the same way that the sound changes slightly as you move around the room, the TACT correction is only accurate in your normal listening position - however, in practice it works rather well regardless of listening position... Understood...yet there are DSP's used in the

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: coax/SPDIF output only, do I need to mod SB3?

2006-06-02 Thread funkstar
SlimDevices do not announce products, or even talk about them, until they are released. This has been their policy for as long as i can remember (back to the SliMP3 days). The high end version is just a rumour, and will stay that way until you can actually buy one, if it ever happens at all.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Should I get a DAC?

2006-06-02 Thread extenso
From reading a lot of opinions on the subject, it seems to me that high-end systems benefit most from including an external DAC. I guess my gear is somewhat midrange: Cambridge 640A amplifier, System Audio 1750 speakers, and, of course, the SB3, which is the reason I began to read about DAC´s. My

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: coax/SPDIF output only, do I need to mod SB3?

2006-06-02 Thread azinck3
Roy2001 Wrote: BTW, at this time, I plan to use coax cable to connect SB3 to an external DAC. My question is, do I really need to mod it? Which kind of mod do you recommend? This is something that only you can answer. You're the one who will be listening to the device. Let me say this:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SMPS vs Linear: Jitter

2006-06-02 Thread ezkcdude
Sean, at that bit rate (2.8224Mbps), one period is 354 ns. Obviously that is several orders of magnitude greater than the jitter rates you gave. I had always thought (or been told) that samples could occur at any time during a clock cycle, which would mean the jitter should be on the order of the

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2006-06-02 Thread Skunk
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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2006-06-02 Thread ajmitchell
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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2006-06-02 Thread ModelCitizen
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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2006-06-02 Thread Andyoz
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2006-06-02 Thread ModelCitizen
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Nice review of the SB3 in UHF magazine

2006-06-02 Thread dean blackketter
On Jun 2, 2006, at 11:43 AM, krzys wrote: I read the article in a store. They said that the Wi Fi password can be recalled from SB in clear text using the remote. The password can then be used to access the computer. Rare issue IMHO . I'm using wired SB ;-)) Well, that's the problem with

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: coax/SPDIF output only, do I need to mod SB3?

2006-06-02 Thread buddhabreath
azinck3 Wrote: If I were to upgrade I'd be sinking money into my speakers long before I ever touched the SB. There are other folks, however, who would not be able to enjoy their SB's as they do without having modded them. Exactly right. Forget about mods to the SB until you have a dream

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Should I get a DAC?

2006-06-02 Thread buddhabreath
extenso Wrote: From reading a lot of opinions on the subject, it seems to me that high-end systems benefit most from including an external DAC. I guess my gear is somewhat midrange: Cambridge 640A amplifier, System Audio 1750 speakers, and, of course, the SB3, which is the reason I began to

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Nice review of the SB3 in UHF magazine

2006-06-02 Thread snarlydwarf
krzys Wrote: I read the article in a store. They said that the Wi Fi password can be recalled from SB in clear text using the remote. The password can then be used to access the computer. Rare issue IMHO . I'm using wired SB ;-)) Chris Indeed, and a lot of routers will do the same thing.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Nice review of the SB3 in UHF magazine

2006-06-02 Thread ezkcdude
Right before the PDF turns into gibberish, they say, This article could turn out to be be one of the most important we have ever published, and we can pretty much guarantee that it is different from supposedly similar reviews, mostly uncritical, found in other publications. We think you’ll want

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: why do we need a DAC ?

2006-06-02 Thread Grayson73
So with my Panasonic SA-XR50 digital receiver, does the quality of the CD player matter since it's purely digital from the CD player to the receiver? -- Grayson73 Grayson73's Profile:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Upgrade SB3 Power Supply with outboard DAC?

2006-06-02 Thread Phil Leigh
There is no difference in sound quality between server side and client side FLAC decoding IMHO. In theory (but I haven't tried) all lossless formats should sound the same (ie good). -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Nice review of the SB3 in UHF magazine

2006-06-02 Thread krzys
In short (my English is average). They say what we already know: from audiophile point of view, the SB is on par to the mid and upper mid class players (let say up to 2k$ ) but not as good as the best ones (what else can they say?). They give some credit for the audiophile in and outs, the

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: coax/SPDIF output only, do I need to mod SB3?

2006-06-02 Thread Phil Leigh
NO you do not need to mod anything. Just enjoy it!. -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24398

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SMPS vs Linear: Jitter

2006-06-02 Thread Phil Leigh
All very interesting and backs up my theory that the problem with the stock SB PSU is NOTHING to do with the SB itself - rather, it's the effect it has on other components. Obviously, YMMV. -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Should I get a DAC?

2006-06-02 Thread Phil Leigh
Well - the internal DAC is very, very good but can be bettered - at a price. If I were you, with that system, I'd worry about other things rather than the DAC. -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: why do we need a DAC ?

2006-06-02 Thread Phil Leigh
Oh yes - and in so many ways! Don't fall into the trap of thinking that bits are bits - it just ain't so. -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Nice review of the SB3 in UHF magazine

2006-06-02 Thread Phil Leigh
Hi Fi World (one of the whackiest publications on the planet) has just given the SB a 5 globe review - hurrah!...and this from a mag that thinks anything not analogue is inherently wrong (how sad - never mind). -- Phil Leigh

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB mod on not mod, what to expect vs CD player?

2006-06-02 Thread Phil Leigh
BB - I think we are basically agreeing. I am not a fan of v. expensive interconnects/mains cables etc - but I can hear a difference between OK cables and rubbish cables. My amplifier remark was a bit flippant (I apologise) but I do strongly believe that the cables are as much part of the overall

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SMPS vs Linear: Jitter

2006-06-02 Thread Jitterbug
Do you mean as a source of RFI? -- Jitterbug Jitterbug's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4955 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24392

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB/Tact/NuForce

2006-06-02 Thread azinck3
Phil Leigh Wrote: Yes agreed, but those systems are crude by comparison. They seem pretty sophisticated to me (see a solution from Meyer Sound here: http://www.meyersound.com/616/) but as I said, I don't know a lot about these things. But back to the FIR filters: does anyone know much more

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SMPS vs Linear: Jitter

2006-06-02 Thread Phil Leigh
Maybe - I have no means of telling - it's just a theory... -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24392

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB/Tact/NuForce

2006-06-02 Thread Phil Leigh
azinck3 Wrote: They seem pretty sophisticated to me (see a solution from Meyer Sound here: http://www.meyersound.com/616/) but as I said, I don't know a lot about these things. But back to the FIR filters: does anyone know much more about these and how they compare to what the TacT can

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB/Tact/NuForce

2006-06-02 Thread azinck3
Phil Leigh Wrote: Well - they are sophisticated in some ways - but not in the way we'd appreciate! Pro sound reinforcement is a whole different bag of spanners... Haha, no kidding... Phil Leigh Wrote: and yes, FIR filters is part of the TACT proposition - some people will disagree

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SMPS vs Linear: Jitter

2006-06-02 Thread ModMike
It is an interesting idea, and a familiar one. I've heard of other products with a switching PS that contaminate the sound quality of other gear -- either placed nearby, and/or plugged into the same power strip. One thing I notice, however, is if I listen with headphones to the SB3 on the

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SMPS vs Linear: Jitter

2006-06-02 Thread seanadams
ModMike Wrote: One thing I notice, however, is if I listen with headphones to the SB3 on the standard switching PS, and then with the linear PS, the difference is still very noticable, possibly even more so. There may be something to that... the headphone amp uses an LDO regulator from

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SMPS vs Linear: Jitter

2006-06-02 Thread tyler_durden
Phil Leigh Wrote: Maybe - I have no means of telling - it's just a theory... Definitions: http://www.answers.com/topic/theory says a theory is: A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SMPS vs Linear: Jitter

2006-06-02 Thread joncourage
I am -so- glad I'm not burdened with the understanding of an engineer... :-) -- joncourage SlimServer Version: 6.5b1 - 6939 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252 Player Firmware Version: 41 SB3 Audio Note DAC 3.1x Sig Levinson 383 integrated Amphion Argons

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SMPS vs Linear: Jitter

2006-06-02 Thread Phil Leigh
I refer the legal department to this URL: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=theory I believe that definitions 4 6 support my choice :o) -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: