Julf wrote:
Not really. A lot of Ferrari owners a) think Ferraris are actually
better than other cars, and b) think Ferrari is a car company (as
opposed to a brand).
I shall have to go for lunch with the Ferrari guy at work and see how
delusional he is. I have a feeling though that he's
bonze wrote:
I thought all audiophiles loved jazz and the more obscure the better,
preferably on the original vinyl.
Partly correct...
We all love -female vocal- jazzy -standards- (like Krall, Barber,
Stanley, Pidgeon, Gardot, etc...). Yes, we all love original vinyl from
the 1960's, rarely
ralphpnj wrote:
The Audiostream blog offers this little pre takedown of the Ars
Technica Ethernet cable test:
http://www.audiostream.com/content/trouble-audio-tests#5WUtFUSgOOb0s7uL.97
A few comments:
First if I remember correctly did not Archimago state that he has been
banned from
DJanGo wrote:
did you (or some others) think that you can change someomes will to buy
a audiophile usb cable if he wants it cause he believes of it and he is
president in the more money than brain club?
Probably not. But we can perhaps help the ones who have a brain to make
more informed
:)
is your car audio system connected to the internet?
is there any connection to something like itunes or radiostream?
how many not believers are using their lms System to use it over the
internet (at least each two weeks there is question about how to) and no
one is using a vpn setup...
How
(Clickbait schlittbait)
Yesterday I paid a visit to a local hi-fi store. They sell mostly gear
of the crazy variety, but they also have excellent speakers, some of
which I wanted to listen to.
There I found a floorstanding speaker cut in half, lengthwise. The point
obviously to show the
doctor_big wrote:
I simply like the tube sound.
Ok, so there's a metric shit-ton of high tech, better-than-you-can-hear
stuff in an avr, and a tube amp is point-to-point soldered garbage.
In 10 years the tube amp will be worth close to its original value,
while the avr will be worth
doctor_big wrote:
I simply like the tube sound.
Ok, so there's a metric shit-ton of high tech, better-than-you-can-hear
stuff in an avr, and a tube amp is point-to-point soldered garbage.
In 10 years the tube amp will be worth close to its original value,
while the avr will be worth
Archimago wrote:
Yes. IMO, it looks like this is exactly all it has ever been! We'll see
if Meridian and MQA is the next great thing in this chapter when we get
to see the kind of upsampling and filter settings they're promoting...
Perhaps that will be the pinnacle since Meridian was one of
Ah yes, that's true. One should look at a real one.
But I suppose the point of these units would be to actually make people
impressed with their products. Imagine the IKEA experience at a BMW
reseller. Cardboard engine and bean sacks for seats. It's just a demo,
the production model is better
Mnyb wrote:
Ok .
So some minimum phase filters have the frequency response slope before
20k not good if it start way before 20k.
My concern is thats all there is to it , it's gets slightly softer and
whiz bang it's the next big thing for audiophiles ?
Yes. IMO, it looks like this is
Since the cut in half speaker on display was most likely not made from a
production model but rather assembled from leftover parts then perhaps
the circuit boards were just throw away boards assembled solely for
this non-working display. One would have to look at a circuit board from
an actual
I simply like the tube sound.
Ok, so there's a metric shit-ton of high tech, better-than-you-can-hear
stuff in an avr, and a tube amp is point-to-point soldered garbage.
In 10 years the tube amp will be worth close to its original value,
while the avr will be worth pennies on the dollar.
arnyk wrote:
I sense a big confusion about the purpose of having an audio system.
Some appear to judge the value of an audio system as a pure financial
play. For them sound quality need not mean anything at all, it seems.
Others judge the value of an audio system based on its ability to
lol
did you (or some others) think that you can change someomes will to buy
a audiophile usb cable if he wants it cause he believes of it and he is
president in the more money than brain club?
Next is audiophile ethernet and whats next audiophile optics cable?
You cant stop such idiots not the
Archimago wrote:
I welcome anyone who feels the need to ABX filter settings to go for it
:-).
he he SoX itlself has some to go trough :))
Wombat wrote:
If you asked me Mnyb, for similar reasons. SoX b 91-93 covers the
complete redbook spec from 20-20.000. Its aliasing is only
Gandhi wrote:
Ah yes, that's true. One should look at a real one.
But I suppose the point of these units would be to actually make people
impressed with their products. Imagine the IKEA experience at a BMW
reseller. Cardboard engine and bean sacks for seats. It's just a demo,
the
doctor_big wrote:
In 10 years the tube amp will be worth close to its original value,
while the avr will be worth pennies on the dollar.
Isn't that what we were talking about?
Not really, no.
doctor_big wrote:
I simply like the tube sound.
That's cool.
ralphpnj wrote:
In reality neither the term audiophile nor the term music lover
works since there are lots of audiophiles who know very little about
music (just go to any of the various high end audio shows and suffer
through the demo music that the average audiophile listens to) and lots
Wombat wrote:
Again i can repeat often enough that all tests that try to promote low
ringing show very, very low statistical value and even then only with
very, very strong ringing filters. A setting with a gentle filter
setting like these mentioned above is very, very likely all you need to
Julf wrote:
We all know that people buy Ferraris for the reliability, great fuel
economy and ample luggage space. :)
It is worth the fight, but I am afraid objectivist audiophile will be
the dominant viewpoint about the same time as we get rid of homeopathy,
conspiracy theories,
Archimago wrote:
Hence the idea of the objectivist audiophile is not an oxymoron as I
believe many of us here personify... To love great sound. To be
insightful enough to admit that maybe something I own costs way more $$$
than is needed because I WANT IT is just fine without claims of
Mnyb wrote:
Like that's not happening thousands of times for every track in a modern
DAW :D
Sssh! Don't tell them! :)
To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this
fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt
edge that will fool many
Archimago wrote:
Well. Nothing wrong with Ferraris! But when was the last time a Ferrari
afficianado claims better MPG than a Honda Civic :confused:? At least
they concede to the objective facts and can be proud of why they love
their car...
Not really. A lot of Ferrari owners a) think
Julf wrote:
Sssh! Don't tell them! :)
*cough* can it be so that some plugins and effects in a DAW use Filters
what algorithm are used here ?
Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x
Mnyb wrote:
So the typical oversampling DAC with a filter thats not your ca 1986
brickwall filter does it roughly rigth ?
Indeed.
I not versed in the exact technical details . I'm certain that there is
some kind of group of good compromises that gets its done like the SoX
settings you
Mnyb wrote:
Horoscopes is so silly , what about newer objects that was not
discovered in the antique ;) have any one ever had the positions of
vesta Pluto Charon or Kerberos in their reading . Not to mention the
probably billions of undiscovered Kuiper Belt Objects out there and the
Julf wrote:
I think the term audiophile is too soiled by now. Probably music
lover is closer to what you describe.
In reality neither the term audiophile nor the term music lover
works since there are lots of audiophiles who know very little about
music (just go to any of the various high end
Archimago wrote:
That's a good point Arny. Because the idea of valuing audio equipment as
an investment bestows upon them a non-utilitarian mystique. The
problem is that many refuse to acknowledge the main reasons why this
stuff is expensive - they look good, impresses friends and family,
Mnyb wrote:
So the typical oversampling DAC with a filter thats not your ca 1986
brickwall filter does it roughly rigth ?
I not versed in the exact technical details . I'm certain that there is
some kind of group of good compromises that gets its done like the SoX
settings you use .
Julf wrote:
Do we want to go there? I can already see it - ah, but floating point
is never totally precise, so there is always room for improvement :)
Like that's not happening thousands of times for every track in a modern
DAW :D
Wombat wrote:
Surely old designs were already good enough with this but marketing has
to create problems to solve.
You see that even me suddenly wurries about things that most likely not
matter :)
We can phantasy around even more. Lets assume we use a filter that
filters softly at 20kHz
Julf wrote:
We all know that people buy Ferraris for the reliability, great fuel
economy and ample luggage space. :)
Well. Nothing wrong with Ferraris! But when was the last time a Ferrari
afficianado claims better MPG than a Honda Civic :confused:? At least
they concede to the objective
DJanGo wrote:
Next is audiophile ethernet and whats next audiophile optics cable?
Old news, already here. $558 toslink cable.
http://www.rakuten.com/prod/audioquest-diamond-optilink-1-5m-4-92-ft-optical-audio-cable/228281197.html?
$500 Cat6 cable
DJanGo wrote:
is your car audio system connected to the internet?
No - and fortunately the cars are old enough not to be easy hacking
vectors either :)
is there any connection to something like itunes or radiostream?
No - all the music is coming from a local hard disk, so I am OK running
The problem for many high-end manufacturers is, that they don't really
sell large volumes of these 25k speakers. No way that you can afford a
wave soldering setup or even have a large enough batch to get it
contracted.
So manual soldering and even there I'd think some of them might have
people
Yes, but they have a wide range of speakers, most of them cheaper but
perhaps a third are even more expensive. They must sell thousands of
speakers every year, and they all have passive filters. Plenty of
opportunity to excel in soldering, it's not difficult. And if they make
a lousy job with
It's really really inefficient to hand build complex machinery of any
kind .
Anecdote time: a local artist where I live tried to prove this piont he
bought a really cheap power drill at the nearest tool shop .
And pulled it to pieces and painstakingly hand built a replica casting
all the parts
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