Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-08-14 Thread deutscherhififan
I got a TC-7520 4 weeks ago. Plugged it into a squeezebox receiver and let internet radio play non-stop until yesterday. I finally compared it to my Platinum Modwright Transporter (a $4800 front-end after all, including some fine tubes). No, it is not a giant killer of THAT magnitude, but I have t

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-08-14 Thread OutdoorXplorer
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-08-13 Thread Pneumonic
I bought a used TC-7510 MK6.4 and am using it in a secondary system down in my rec room plugged into one of my classics and the sound is MUCH better than that of the classic on its own. I have also plugged the Beresford into my primary rig and compared it to my Transporter, my Roksan DA1 DAC w/

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-08-13 Thread Labarum
Peter Stockwell;448103 Wrote: > I couldn't discern a worthwhile difference. So I've sold the Beresford. I find that very difficult be believe. My Beresford 6/4 0and now the Caiman) made an immediate and very obvious improvement to the outputs from the internal DACs of my SB3 and my Cable TV box.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-08-13 Thread Peter Stockwell
I used the Beresford TC7510 Mk6/3 with an airport express and thought it essential. The airport express died,s i I bougt a squeezebox and automatically used it wit the Beresford Dac. I then read some opinions on te unofficial french naim forum (NBLyon/uncl_Nigel) which stated that there wasn't a b

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-08-11 Thread Phil Leigh
jbloggs;447470 Wrote: > Actually, I preferred the 19MK3 over the ZeroDAC right from the word go, > so your rather sarcastic remarks are completely off... > > I'm sure you know the old cliche "sarcasm is the lowest form of wit," > so you're better off saying nothing rather than showing yourself u

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-08-10 Thread jbloggs
Phil Leigh;447425 Wrote: > You mean "before your brain prefers the sound of your new DAC to that of > your old DAC"... > > The real issue is how many hundreds of hours will it take before your > brain becomes convinced that your new DAC doesn't sound as good as a DAC > you haven't bought yet...

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-08-10 Thread Phil Leigh
jbloggs;447374 It'll need a few hundred hours burn-in before I begin to hear the best from it. [/QUOTE Wrote: > > > You mean "before your brain prefers the sound of your new DAC to that > of your old DAC"... > > The real issue is how many hundreds of hours will it take before your > brain be

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-08-10 Thread jbloggs
BigTony;388214 Wrote: > I bought a Beresford dac about 4 months after the sb3. Its a decent bit > of kit, very handy to have a bunch of inputs/outputs. After 12 months i > decided i really wanted to close the sonic gap between my sb3/dac combo > and my Musical Fidelity A3 cd player, but wasn't su

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-02-17 Thread simongurney
I bought a Rega CD, Rega DAC, Rega Pre and Rega power amp with Ruark speakers 8 years ago. In it's day was a great combination. As CDs got scratched, children etc.general enjoyment diminished. I then ripped them all to flac using EAC and a Netgear ready nas. I bought a Linn Majik DS to rep

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-02-17 Thread dvdit
I am thinking of getting the Beresford DAC to use between my squeezebox duet and Onkyo 805. I currently connect the Duet to the Onkyo 805 using optical using the 805 Burr-brown DACs. I really do like the sound a lot but I want to take it to next level. Would I get a better sound quality be adding

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-02-12 Thread eddiec99
Have available version 5 of the DAC, in great condition. Available for Pickup in Hampshire area £85.00 secures Private Message Many thanks -- eddiec99 eddiec99's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-01-22 Thread JezA
Labarum;387969 Wrote: > Review can be read on this thread > > http://www.theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1809 > > look for other threads on this forum in the Digital section. The thread linked to is somewhat misleading in that it could be read as suggesting that the Beresford 'won' th

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-01-22 Thread darrenyeats
Phil Leigh;388208 Wrote: > Darren... Darren ... I didn't have you down as a s/n + THD sort of > fellow! In both cases the numbers are so low as to make no audible > difference. > > It's a pity we don't know what the numbers are that DO correlate with > enjoyment :o) I suppose it's a bit like Eur

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-01-22 Thread BigTony
I bought a Beresford dac about 4 months after the sb3. Its a decent bit of kit, very handy to have a bunch of inputs/outputs. After 12 months i decided i really wanted to close the sonic gap between my sb3/dac combo and my Musical Fidelity A3 cd player, but wasn't sure what to get. I opted to try

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-01-22 Thread darrenyeats
Interesting, it does look like good value for money going by the measurements available. THD 0.001%, SNR 98db (with an unusual caveat about this being possible only when at least 1db below peak output). Pretty decent and certainly great value. Then again the same can be said of the SB3 according t

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-01-21 Thread Labarum
JezA;387929 Wrote: > The Beresford got a full page review in this months HiFi Choice - along > with 5 other DACs. Review can be read on this thread http://www.theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1809 look for other threads on this forum in the Digital section. -- Labarum Brian Squeez

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-01-21 Thread JezA
The Beresford got a full page review in this months HiFi Choice - along with 5 other DACs. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showt

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-01-21 Thread darrenyeats
Although I like my SB3 I'm a bit curious about this Beresford thingy now. Can anyone point me to some specs or measurements somewhere? Can't seem to find any on the Beresford site or the linked reviews. Darren -- darrenyeats SB3 / Inguz -> Krell KAV-300i (pre bypass) -> PMC AB-1 Dell laptop ->

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-01-21 Thread Themis
GlenL;387800 Wrote: > > I think I'll spend the £100 odd quid it would have cost me on some more > CDs instead :-) Good idea. ;) -- Themis SB3 - North Star dac 192 - Denon 3808 - Sonus Faber Grand Piano Domus Themis's Pr

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-01-21 Thread GlenL
Labarum;387780 Wrote: > The Beresford DAC is a very fine box, but I doubt you hear much > improvement with your little A5s - those would need upgrading first. Thanks for reply Labarum I suspected as much. I think I'll spend the £100 odd quid it would have cost me on some more CDs instead :

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-01-21 Thread Labarum
GlenL;387707 Wrote: > I currently have a SB3 Duet connected to AudioEngine A5 speakers. > > Is it worth buying a Beresford do you think, or are the A5s not > 'audiophile' enough for me to notice any improvement ? > The Beresford DAC is a very fine box, but I doubt you hear much improvement wit

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-01-21 Thread GlenL
I currently have a SB3 Duet connected to AudioEngine A5 speakers. Is it worth buying a Beresford do you think, or are the A5s not 'audiophile' enough for me to notice any improvement ? Any thoughts/opinions greatly appreciated. Thanks -- GlenL

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-01-21 Thread Phil Leigh
ChrisMa;387660 Wrote: > Thank you for your opinion - and I suspect it is just that. > > You appear to have an issue with the Beresford. My "opinion" is that > sound for pound it is right up there. It is also well designed and the > changes to the PSU should should really be seen as icing on the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-01-21 Thread ChrisMa
Phil Leigh;387546 Wrote: > For the SB, The extra voltage is a complete and utter waste of the > earths resources, since the extra volt will not even make it past the > first regulator. Sorry. > It won't change the sound. At all. Try it and see! > > Just because one piece of gear responds well to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-01-20 Thread Phil Leigh
ChrisMa;387511 Wrote: > Yes but what about the sound - is that affected. All Hifi wastes heat > etc! > > The Beresford clearly responds well to an increase in voltage from 12V > to 13.8V and this has been documented elsewhere. I suppose this is a > waste as well! For the SB, The extra voltage

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-01-20 Thread ChrisMa
Phil Leigh;387482 Wrote: > All that's going to achieve is to waste heat and electricity and create > electrical noise as the internal regs dump the extra voltage. Not > advised! Yes but what about the sound - is that affected. All Hifi wastes heat etc! The Beresford clearly responds well to an

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-01-20 Thread Phil Leigh
ChrisMa;387470 Wrote: > > > Anyone run a SB3 at 6V rather than 5V? All that's going to achieve is to waste heat and electricity and create electrical noise as the internal regs dump the extra voltage. Not advised! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-01-20 Thread ChrisMa
I also have recently bought a SB3 and Beresford and think they are really good. I have added linear power supplies to both and like the smoother presentation over the switching ones supplied (I think they give an aggressive sound). I prefer running the Beresford into a Grad 1 using the fixed outp

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-01-14 Thread john4456
Another happy Beresford user here. IME it offers a huge improvement over the SB. I originally used it with an SB3, but it was relegated to the bedroom system along with the SB3 after I upgraded to an SB+. I have recently had the dac upgraded by Stan to mark 6/4 and now prefer the SB+ with Beresfor

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-01-13 Thread Labarum
martin_sv;383836 Wrote: > Think you may have judged in haste and perhaps should re read the sig. I > did of course use lossless files before coming to my conclusions. Sorry. Misread your sig in haste and added a line to my post. Then if you have been listening to FLAC, I cannot account for why

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-01-13 Thread JezA
Checkout this months HiFi Choice and HiFi Sound for some good reviews of DACS - including the Beresford, Lavry, DacMagic, Bryston and dCS. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-01-13 Thread martin_sv
Quote>> Hibitrate MP3s? Goodness knows what is going on in the streaming. Rip one of your best CDs to FLAC and try again.<< Think you may have judged in haste and perhaps should re read the sig. I did of course use lossless files before coming to my conclusions. However can you clarify what you

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-01-13 Thread Labarum
I must say I am very surprised to hear you say the difference between the SB3 0n its own and with a Beresford DAC is negligible. I find the SB3 by itself has a very flat musical presentation - it spring to life with the external DAC. A piano chord dying with the dampers off is the tell-tale for

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-01-13 Thread martin_sv
Hi, Like the O/P I also have an LP12 and I guess i wanted to achieve a similar level of performance from a digital source with the added super convenience of all my music in one place. Always felt my CD player was a fairly poor second in listening terms. After reading all the positive reports o

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-01-06 Thread Labarum
I have a 6/3. No Stan has it for the MOD21 upgrade to 6/4. I find it a great improvement over the raw SB3. I use the variable output straight into my power amp, and the source switching to choose SB, Cable TV Box or S/PDIF from TV which I only use when playing the laptop via HDMI into the TV. F

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-01-05 Thread HectorHughMunro
I've got a 6/3. Excellent. As mentioned, ignore the earlier reviews. The new USB version looks quite exciting as that apparently includes other upgrades like op amps etc. -- HectorHughMunro HectorHughMunro's Profile: ht

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-01-04 Thread plim
I've been using one for a few months now, latest version after applying the Stan's "mod21". I applied a few other mods and, for the price, I am now happy with it (see http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54947&highlight=beresford&page=5). Note that Beresford fixed analog output is diffe

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-01-04 Thread Gazjam
The thing with the Beresford is that its constantly being improved. I've had one of the early ones and I've recently bought the latest one, the Mark 6/4. Very VERY different animal to my earlier Dac. I'd say go for it. Even email Stan Beresford and he'll send you out a loaner to try - he's that

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-01-03 Thread iPhone
pjdowns;378776 Wrote: > All, > > I am in the market for a DAC to upgrade the Squeezebox, yeah it is a > truely magical machine but overall the DAC inside isn't quite upto the > rest of my system > > All of my music is being streamed from an Apple iMac G5 wirelessly > through a Linksys route

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-01-03 Thread agentsmith
I have used Benchmark DAC1, which I sold in anticipation of the Naim HDX and bought a Beresford DAC for temporary replacement. I gave up on the HDX idea but finally got myself a Transporter. The Beresford is very reasonably priced but I think it would stuggle to even get close to what your Naim

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-01-03 Thread breakfastchef
I have a Beresford unit for nearly a year and the improvement is noticable. I am sure a highe rpriced Stello or Monarchy DAC is even better, but I am please with my Bereford, for now. I have used both optical and coax and cannot detect a difference between the inputs. -- breakfastchef -

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-01-03 Thread steveh
IMO much improved sound over analogue input,only been using it for 7 days, it does appear to need a bit of "burning in" though as it seems to get better by the day. -- steveh Steve Squeezecenter on WHS pp1 Squeezebox Receiver Beresford DAC Roksan Kandy L111 Dynaudio Focus 140 ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-01-03 Thread Stratmangler
Coax for SB3 and also for DVD player. Sky+ box goes into optical. I bought a coax lead with my DAC, but have ended up using an old interconnect with Eichmann bullets on. Both coax connected devices use the same cable, just with different coloured plugs on the end. Chris -- Stratmangler --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-01-03 Thread pjdowns
Thanks for the info; Reference the connections, can you tell me, what do you use the Optical or Coax ? ... I have a spare Coax cable so if I buy the DAC I would intend on using this !. P. -- pjdowns Don't ask which computer someone is using ... if they're a Apple Mac user they'll tell you, i

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-01-03 Thread Stratmangler
I've had one for a year now and have no complaints. It sounds quite a bit better than the standard SB3 analogue outputs. The DAC performs better with a PSU with some grunt behind it (well more than the supplied one) - you can get these from Maplin for around £20.00 . The DAC also sounds better I

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford DAC ... Who uses one and how good is it really ?

2009-01-03 Thread pjdowns
All, I am in the market for a DAC to upgrade the Squeezebox, yeah it is a truely magical machine but overall the DAC inside isn't quite upto the rest of my system All of my music is being streamed from an Apple iMac G5 wirelessly through a Linksys router. It is recorded as either AAC (192/44