Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Profession "Mestra demeninhos(as)"?

2019-11-15 Thread JesseAndDeborah Mendonca
much more antiquated will it >>> not be 72 years later? >>> >>> >>> >>> A mestre / mestra is a teacher whether that be trades or education. >>> >>> >>> mestra >>> Significado de Mestra >>> >>> subst

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Profession "Mestra demeninhos(as)"?

2019-11-15 Thread Ângela Loura
>> >> >> A mestre / mestra is a teacher whether that be trades or education. >> >> >> mestra >> Significado de Mestra >> >> substantivo feminine Mulher que ensina ou leciona; professora. >> >> >> >> >> >>

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Profession "Mestra demeninhos(as)"?

2019-11-15 Thread Cheri Mello
t; > > > *From: *Cheri Mello > *Sent: *November 15, 2019 3:10 PM > *To: *Azores Genealogy > *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Profession "Mestra > demeninhos(as)"? > > > > So, from an American point-of-view, she was the teacher (or person who > mas

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Profession "Mestra de meninhos(as)"?

2019-11-15 Thread 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy
chool girls Teacher” in the 1800’s schools were segregated by sex.  Mixed classes did not exist back then.   Margaret v.   From: Cheri Mello Sent: November 15, 2019 12:09 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Profession "Mestra de meninhos(as)"?   Hi

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Profession "Mestra demeninhos(as)"?

2019-11-15 Thread Margaret Vicente
is a teacher whether that be trades or education. mestra Significado de Mestra substantivo feminine Mulher que ensina ou leciona; professora. Best, Margaret From: Cheri Mello Sent: November 15, 2019 3:10 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Profession "Mestra demen

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Profession "Mestra de meninhos(as)"?

2019-11-15 Thread Ângela Loura
gt;> >>> Margaret v. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From: *Cheri Mello >>> *Sent: *November 15, 2019 12:09 PM >>> *To: *Azores Genealogy >>> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Profession "Mestra de >>> meninhos(as)&q

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Profession "Mestra de meninhos(as)"?

2019-11-15 Thread Cheri Mello
nas” or currently spoken “Professora de meninas” means >> “School girls Teacher” in the 1800’s schools were segregated by sex. Mixed >> classes did not exist back then. >> >> >> >> Margaret v. >> >> >> >> *From: *Cheri Mello >> *Sent:

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Profession "Mestra de meninhos(as)"?

2019-11-15 Thread Ângela Loura
eacher” in the 1800’s schools were segregated by sex. Mixed > classes did not exist back then. > > > > Margaret v. > > > > *From: *Cheri Mello > *Sent: *November 15, 2019 12:09 PM > *To: *Azores Genealogy > *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Profession &quo

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Profession "Mestra de meninhos(as)"?

2019-11-15 Thread Margaret Vicente
“Mestra de Meninas” or currently spoken “Professora de meninas” means “School girls Teacher” in the 1800’s schools were segregated by sex. Mixed classes did not exist back then. Margaret v. From: Cheri Mello Sent: November 15, 2019 12:09 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Profession "Mestra de meninhos (as)"?

2019-11-15 Thread Cheri Mello
Hi Jessica, Mestre (masculine) or mestra (feminine) means master. Professora is teacher (feminine). You'd need to look for another "os" or "as" in the document to figure out if it's meninos or meninas. I kinda think it's meninas. So what is a master of the girls? My understanding of a master is

[AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Profession "Mestra de meninhos (as)"?

2019-11-15 Thread JML
Hi group! For this marriage of Joaquim Machado de Lemos and Maria da Luz. It states that the bride's profession was that of a "mestra of children or just girls" I can't tell if it's an "as" or "os" for menin_ _. Does anyone have any knowledge about professions in the 1800's? How much

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question regarding the meaning of: Velho

2019-08-25 Thread Liz Migliori
Oh no. Now I’m gonna have to go back and look them all up again to see if there was a comma or not Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 25, 2019, at 12:53 AM, JR wrote: > > O Velho, is definitely, the elder. However, Velho is a very old legitimate > surname. So I would agree, if the name is

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question regarding the meaning of: Velho

2019-08-25 Thread 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 10:53 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question regarding the meaning of: Velho O Velho, is definitely, the elder. However, Velho is a very old legitimate surname. So I would agree, if the name is prefaced by a comma, it means the elder

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question regarding the meaning of: Velho

2019-08-24 Thread JR
O Velho, is definitely, the elder. However, Velho is a very old legitimate surname. So I would agree, if the name is prefaced by a comma, it means the elder. If there is no comma, it is a surname. Velho as a surname predates the written church records. The name appears to have fallen out of

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question regarding the meaning of: Velho

2019-08-24 Thread Elizabeth Migliori
I have that also in several of mine. Sometimes even O Velho Sent from my iPad > On Aug 24, 2019, at 6:58 PM, Ângela Loura wrote: > > It depends on the case. Sometimes it was only used to mention the elder > person with X name, and sometimes it became a last name just like some > nicknames

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question regarding the meaning of: Velho

2019-08-24 Thread Ângela Loura
It depends on the case. Sometimes it was only used to mention the elder person with X name, and sometimes it became a last name just like some nicknames do. 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy escreveu no dia sábado, 24/08/2019 à(s) 23:53: > Good afternoon everyone; I have a question

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question regarding the meaning of: Velho

2019-08-24 Thread 'Deb McCabe' via Azores Genealogy
Hi Sam, When I encountered the name without a comma, I was told it was an alcunha meaning old.  Others more experienced than I may weigh in with other info. Deb When I searched for ancestors, I found friends! On Saturday, August 24, 2019, 03:53:42 PM PDT, 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores

[AZORES-Genealogy] Question regarding the meaning of: Velho

2019-08-24 Thread 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy
Good afternoon everyone; I have a question regarding the word/name: Velho. When you see it after someone’s name without a comma, is it a part of the name or just it mean, “the elder” or something like that. Thanks for your responses, Sam (Mazatlán, MX) --- This email has been checked for

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question about the relationship of godparentsto the child

2019-07-06 Thread doreencaetano
Thank you. Now I just need to figure out if Joaquim Jose de Bettencourt the father or son that is in my database. Have a great day. Doreen Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Hughes Roselyn Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2019 11:10 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question about the relationship of godparents to the child

2019-07-06 Thread Hughes Roselyn
Hi Doreen: Looks like "sua irma" - his sister. Joaquim Jose de Bettencourt and D. Benedicta Rosa are brother and sister and natives of this same parish of Sao Roque. Roselyn On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 10:37 AM wrote: > There is a note about the relationship of the godparents but I can get >

[AZORES-Genealogy] Question about the relationship of godparents to the child

2019-07-06 Thread doreencaetano
There is a note about the relationship of the godparents but I can get through the language. I just see Joaquim Jose de Bettencourt and D. Benedicta Rosa ??Irmao. It is the record for Maria on the lower right side of the page.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question re:Portuguese surname traditions, going back to my children's great-grandfather.

2019-07-01 Thread 'Kathy Cardoza' via Azores Genealogy
Yes, we both did, thank you! Kathy ~~~ Visit the Azores GenWeb Project: http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/ ~~~ > On Jul 1, 2019, at 6:56 AM, Rosemarie

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question re:Portuguese surname traditions, going back to my children's great-grandfather.

2019-07-01 Thread Rosemarie Capodicci
Thanks, Kathy! I'm assuming that you arrived home safe-and-sound and my Primo did too! Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 6:55 AM 'Kathy Cardoza' via Azores Genealogy <

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question re:Portuguese surname traditions, going back to my children's great-grandfather.

2019-07-01 Thread 'Kathy Cardoza' via Azores Genealogy
Regarding the Naming Practices of the Azores…… there is also a basic explanation of these traditions and practices ob the Azores GenWeb: http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/research-aids-m---z/naming-practices-of-the.html

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question re:Portuguese surname traditions, going back to my children's great-grandfather.

2019-06-30 Thread JOSEPHINE MIGUEL
Hello Margaret, Thank you for sending the link. I will be checking into it. Josephine Sent from my iPad > On Jun 30, 2019, at 11:15 AM, Margaret Vicente > wrote: > > Hello Josephine, > > Naming practices and conventions varied in Portugal due to Historic and > Religous influences in

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question re:Portuguese surname traditions, going back to my children's great-grandfather.

2019-06-30 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hello Josephine, Naming practices and conventions varied in Portugal due to Historic and Religous influences in Portugal. Perhaps some one will address your question, but you may also find the explanation in the attached link, which in my opinion, is not quite right but it does drive the idea

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question re:Portuguese surname traditions, going back to my children's great-grandfather.

2019-06-30 Thread Cheri Mello
Hi Josephine, I think I have a private email from you to answer as well. You emailed me when I was at the Portuguese Genealogical Conference and Research Trip in Salt Lake City. I'm home now and playing catch up in the online world as well as my own world! LOL You'll eventually get used to this

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question re:Portuguese surname traditions, going back to my children's great-grandfather.

2019-06-30 Thread JOSEPHINE MIGUEL
Hello Cheri,I thank you for your replies to my son, Don Miguel, with his question regarding paternal great-grandparents.  It shed valuable light and before now, unknown, information.  Going forward from Passport Registrations and Portuguese Immigrants to Hawaii, Jacintho Miguel de Medeiros and

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question re:Portuguese surname traditions, going back to my children's great-grandfather.

2019-06-29 Thread Cheri Mello
Hi Josephine, To do research, you need a name, a date, and a place. You have a date of 1882 and a place of Hawaii, yet no name. You need to state what you know about the immigrant ancestor, including all names that you have found. We are unable to help you otherwise. Thanks, Cheri On Sat, Jun 29,

[AZORES-Genealogy] Question re:Portuguese surname traditions, going back to my children's great-grandfather.

2019-06-29 Thread jomig...@sbcglobal.net
Their great-grandfather sailed from the Azores under a name different from the name used after immigrating to Hawaii in 1882. Any input or comments to help give a clearer understanding would be greatly appreciated. -Josephine Miguel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question

2019-06-26 Thread Margaret Vicente
. Best, margaret From: Liz Migliori Sent: June 25, 2019 11:39 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question Ok Thanks.  I did just have Sao Joao, Pico, Azores.  But some new stuff started popping up that had Lajes in there so I thought I was doing something wrong I’m

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question

2019-06-25 Thread Liz Migliori
Ok Thanks. I did just have Sao Joao, Pico, Azores. But some new stuff started popping up that had Lajes in there so I thought I was doing something wrong I’m sticking with my way Thanks Cheri Liz Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 25, 2019, at 10:15 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Hi Liz, A few

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question

2019-06-25 Thread Cheri Mello
Hi Liz, A few people do the district. Most do not, as it becomes confusing really quickly. I would do Sao Joao (or São João if you prefer) which is the freguesia (village), Pico (the island), Azores. You can add in Portugal if you like. I figure anyone looking at my research 50 years from now

[AZORES-Genealogy] Question

2019-06-25 Thread Liz Migliori
If someone is born in Sao Joao, Pico Should it be written in a tree as Sao Joao, Lajes Do Pico, Is Sao Joao a town in the district or a small village in the bigger town of Lajes? Liz Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question about Azores Passport Records.

2018-11-20 Thread Cheri Mello
Justin B, Don't bother to requote the original message, it's already there. It takes a lot of scrolling to find your response, especially after a few other people start to chime in. You'll need to trace the people who have more paper trail. So that's Maria Julia's husband, Julio Jacinto Borges.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question about Azores Passport Records.

2018-11-20 Thread Justin Brown
On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 1:41:34 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote: > I checked the American end...it says your Maria Julia and her son, Julio were > in America in 1904 (in New Bedford) and both are U.S. citizens. You may want > to check 1904. Looking at the council and freguesia column, you'd

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question about Azores Passport Records.

2018-11-20 Thread Cheri Mello
I checked the American end...it says your Maria Julia and her son, Julio were in America in 1904 (in New Bedford) and both are U.S. citizens. You may want to check 1904. Looking at the council and freguesia column, you'd see just America written in that column. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question about Azores passport records.

2018-11-20 Thread Cheri Mello
Yes. I have ancestors who registered and it said it was their 2nd or 3rd time. You have to start looking on June 18, 1905 and work backwards in time. You don't know if she registered 2 weeks before departure or a year before departure. If you know her freguesia (village), you could look down the

[AZORES-Genealogy] Question about Azores passport records.

2018-11-20 Thread Justin Brown
Was it a requirement for all people departing the islands to "get a passport" as in be recorded even if it wasn't their first time leaving. I ask because I'm looking through the records and can't seem to find the corresponding records to the US immigration records. The immigration records for

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question about Azores Passport Records.

2018-11-20 Thread Cheri Mello
Hi Justin B, Yes, they all had to register. The problem is, we don't know WHEN. So you start looking at 18 June 1905 and work your way back in time on the passaportes. If you know the freguesia (village), it's easier to go down that column looking for the council and freguesia than it is to look

[AZORES-Genealogy] Question about Azores Passport Records.

2018-11-20 Thread Justin Brown
Was it mandatory for all people leaving the islands to "get a passport" or be recorded. Even if it wasn't their first time departing the island. I ask because I have the immigration records for here in the US, but can't seem to find the corresponding record in the Azores passport records, as I

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question

2018-04-17 Thread Cheri Mello
It's no big deal. But FTDNA isn't going to be able to tell you that I was the one the made the connection with person A and then applied it to person B. Customer service doesn't understand the endogamy either, but if you want to go a couple of rounds with them, go right ahead. Cheri Cheri Mello

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question

2018-04-17 Thread Liz Migliori
Cheri I'll call them tomorrow Please put your feet up when you get home. My thing is not that important. It was just a question I really do appreciate your offer Luz Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 17, 2018, at 5:14 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Liz, since this a personal

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question

2018-04-17 Thread Liz Migliori
Liz Not Luz Lol Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 17, 2018, at 5:14 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Liz, since this a personal question on one of your kits, and no one except > you and FTDNA staff and admins can see it, you should either email one of the > admins (with the kit

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question

2018-04-17 Thread Cheri Mello
Liz, since this a personal question on one of your kits, and no one except you and FTDNA staff and admins can see it, you should either email one of the admins (with the kit number and name) or contact FTDNA. I will be home after 7 pm PDT and can help you then. Note 1: If I figure out a match

[AZORES-Genealogy] Question

2018-04-17 Thread Elizabeth Migliori
Hi I just went into a Family Finder profile that I'm responsible for and noticed that the little blue man (paternal) was now highlighted. No red for maternal just Blue for paternal. Nor Purple for both Now this person and I are 1 st cousin once removed. So for her we are related on her father's

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] question

2018-03-04 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
I am confused as well. I need more information. Rick From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 5:32 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] question Liz, I don't understand your question

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] question

2018-03-04 Thread Cheri Mello
Liz, I don't understand your question or abbreviations. Can you write things out without the abbreviations? CE is Common Era, the modern acronym for what we learned as A.D. (Anno Domini). DNA is measured in centoMorgans (cMs), not centograms. That's a different kind of measurement. If you can

[AZORES-Genealogy] question

2018-03-04 Thread Elizabeth Migliori
Hello I just checked my cousin's family finder and noticed that another cousin is listed on there 2ce. once for half sibling/ grandparent/aunt or uncle etc 1613 centograms second time for 2nd to 4th cousin 106 centograms. Is this just a mistake or what's up with this??? -- You received this

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question

2018-02-21 Thread Rosemarie Capodicci
Good luck! Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 4:38 PM, Liz Migliori wrote: > Thanks Rosemarie. Great advice > I just need to go to the local library

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question

2018-02-21 Thread Liz Migliori
Thanks Rosemarie. Great advice I just need to go to the local library it's free!!! New area so gotta find new place!! Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 21, 2018, at 12:20 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci wrote: > > No, the info is different. At the DAR Seminar there was a talk about the

[AZORES-Genealogy] Question

2018-02-21 Thread Liz Migliori
My Heritage is offering a special half price for a year Q: would that be just like Ancestry. Same online info Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question

2018-02-21 Thread Rosemarie Capodicci
No, the info is different. At the DAR Seminar there was a talk about the different companies and how they each took an area to digitize: Ancestry--immigration & naturalization, My Heritage, USA marriages, Find My Past something else and Family Search something else. So, you need to check all of

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question about Records for Sao Miguel

2017-08-13 Thread Margaret Vicente
… > eliseu > > De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de Cheri > Mello > Enviada: domingo, 13 de agosto de 2017 04:48 > Para: Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com> > Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question about Records for Sao Miguel > >

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question about Records for Sao Miguel

2017-08-13 Thread Eliseu Pacheco da Silva
De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de Cheri Mello Enviada: domingo, 13 de agosto de 2017 04:48 Para: Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com> Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question about Records for Sao Miguel There's a CalhetaS in the council of R

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question about Records for Sao Miguel

2017-08-12 Thread Cheri Mello
There's a CalhetaS in the council of Ribeira Grande on Sao Miguel. Those records start in the 1830s. Prior records are probably in one of the neighboring freguesias, but I'm not sure which one. Maybe Rabo de Peixe. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca,

[AZORES-Genealogy] Question about Records for Sao Miguel

2017-08-12 Thread bobcamscpw via Azores Genealogy
hello everyone. I am checking to see if there is records some where else the Island of Sao Miguel, village of Calheta before the 1600's' I just found out that my Camacho line came from the Island of Sao Miguel they emigrated to Madeira around the earlier 1600's. So I am looking for records

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization

2017-06-15 Thread 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy
Very interesting article. Thanks for the link. Sam (Camas, WA) From: E Sharp Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:33 PM To: azores Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization Here is a great site that explains it all. https://www.archives.gov/files/publications/prologue/2014/spring

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization

2017-06-15 Thread 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy
Sorry I didn't answer yesterday Liz Didn't get to my email! Yes, that's exactly what I meant! Thank you E for the great article which explains this so well! Susan Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2017, at 12:24 PM, Liz Migliori wrote: > > Wait, who got around to

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization

2017-06-14 Thread Cheri Mello
See Elaine's link. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Liz Migliori wrote: > OMG. How would I find out where would I look > > Sent from my

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization

2017-06-14 Thread Liz Migliori
OMG. How would I find out where would I look Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:33 PM, E Sharp wrote: > > Here is a great site that explains it all. > > https://www.archives.gov/files/publications/prologue/2014/spring/citizenship.pdf > > "E" > > > -- > You

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization

2017-06-14 Thread Cheri Mello
>> from the Department of Justice.* >> >> >> >> *Rick* >> >> >> >> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com >> <azores@googlegroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *Liz Migliori >> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:24 PM >>

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization

2017-06-14 Thread Liz Migliori
e from the Department of Labor where my grandfather’s came >>> from the Department of Justice. >>> >>> >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> >>> >>> From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of >>

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization

2017-06-14 Thread "E" Sharp
Here is a great site that explains it all. https://www.archives.gov/files/publications/prologue/2014/spring/citizenship.pdf "E" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization

2017-06-14 Thread Rosemarie Capodicci
ilto:azores@googlegroups.com > <azores@googlegroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *Liz Migliori > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:24 PM > *To:* azores@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization > > > > Wait, who got around to it in the

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization

2017-06-14 Thread Cheri Mello
of Labor where my grandfather’s came > from the Department of Justice.* > > > > *Rick* > > > > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com > <azores@googlegroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *Liz Migliori > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:24 PM > *T

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization

2017-06-14 Thread Liz Migliori
Of > Liz Migliori > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:24 PM > To: azores@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization > > Wait, who got around to it in the 60's > Do you mean that your mother was born here > Married gfather in 1916. Then h

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization

2017-06-14 Thread Cheri Mello
After 1920, a woman was her own person and would have to apply for her own citizenship. It didn't matter what her husband did. On Jun 14, 2017 2:46 PM, "Liz Migliori" wrote: > Wait, who got around to it in the 60's > Do you mean that your mother was born here > Married

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization

2017-06-14 Thread Liz Migliori
Wait, who got around to it in the 60's Do you mean that your mother was born here Married gfather in 1916. Then he got his citizenship but she did not automatically become citizen again??? Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2017, at 10:53 AM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization Records in the United States

2017-06-14 Thread E. Sharp
Most of the women this happened to, and there were many, reclaimed their citizenship so they could collect Social Security. "E" Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization Records in the United States

2017-06-14 Thread 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy
The same thing happened to my grandma who married her dear "greenhorn" (she told me people called him that) in 1916. Her got his citizenship in the 20's but she remained an alien for decades Don't have it here but I think she finally got around to it in the 1960s. Susan Sent from my

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization Records in the United States

2017-06-14 Thread Liz Migliori
Thx for this info Cheri. Confirms for me. Whenever I tell relatives that my gram lost her citizenship they don't believe me. She used to get so mad if anyone called her a greenhorn. She made grandpa get his citizenship. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:47 AM, Cheri Mello

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization Records in the United States

2017-06-14 Thread Cheri Mello
Before 1920, women didn't naturalize on their own. No women's rights. If the husband naturalized, then she was considered naturalized. If a woman (being a U.S. Citizen) married an alien, she lost her American citizenship too (before 1920 and women's rights). 1926 - maybe it's her, maybe it's not.

[AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization Records in the United States

2017-06-14 Thread George Medeiros
When a married woman became a citizen of the U.S. from the azores from 1900- 1950 does the naturalization record use their own surname or their husband's ? Does anyone know ? I found a naturalization record from 1926 of a woman with my grandmother's name which looks like her handwriting but

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on record Ribeirinha Sao Miguel 1873

2017-05-23 Thread Margaret Vicente
I'll keep those names in mind whenever I search through that Parish. Have you considered that Estrela may be a 'tag' name. In other words, a grandmother may have been called Estrela or Maria da Estrela while the husband may be "Sousa" ? On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 9:17 PM, Herb

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on record Ribeirinha Sao Miguel 1873

2017-05-23 Thread Herb
As best as I have been able to determine Margaret, my exposto Jose Sousa Silva born 1871-1872 in NS Estrela Ribeira Grande, was probably the son of an Antonio Sousa Estrela and Maria Rosa. I have not been able to learn who raised him or who the parents of Antonio Sousa Estela were. I have

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on record Ribeirinha Sao Miguel 1873

2017-05-23 Thread Margaret Vicente
Indeed, Herb! Too similar, the other Antonio was of incognito parents but there may be a correlation here. If a Silva Carnario family was raising these kids they may have taken on the surname. Were you able to confirm who it was that nursed and raised your ancestor? On Tue, May 23, 2017 at

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on record Ribeirinha Sao Miguel 1873

2017-05-23 Thread Herb
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1844-1846/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1844-1846_item1/P143.html Margaret all this talk about Antonio Silva Canario reminds me of the one in the URL above. He was the padrinho to all of my exposto great grandfather's kids. Herb -- You

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on record Ribeirinha Sao Miguel 1873

2017-05-22 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on record Ribeirinha Sao Miguel 1873 Obito for Florinda Candida, first wife of Jose Costa Pragana: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-O-1870-1879/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-O-1870-1879_item1/P178.html Record - 221, Florinda Candida

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on record Ribeirinha Sao Miguel 1873

2017-05-22 Thread JR
t;> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *On >>> Behalf Of *bsei...@gmail.com >>> *Sent:* Monday, May 22, 2017 4:47 PM >>> *To:* Azores Genealogy >>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on record Ribeirinha Sao >>>

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on record Ribeirinha Sao Miguel 1873

2017-05-22 Thread JR
te Helena >> remarried 18 Jan 1898. Thank you. * >> >> >> >> *Rick* >> >> >> >> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *On >> Behalf Of *bsei...@gmail.com >> *Sent:* Monday, May 22, 2017 4:47 PM >> *To:* Azores Ge

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on record Ribeirinha Sao Miguel 1873

2017-05-22 Thread bsei2816
t; *Sent:* Monday, May 22, 2017 4:47 PM > *To:* Azores Genealogy > *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on record Ribeirinha Sao > Miguel 1873 > > > > I noticed that the caption for the Conceição book said "Obitos do > Hospital" so I took a look. I

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on record Ribeirinha Sao Miguel 1873

2017-05-22 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
Rick From: azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of bsei...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 4:05 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on record Ribeirinha Sao Miguel 1873 I'm not sure what the margin numbers mean on Emilia

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on record Ribeirinha Sao Miguel 1873

2017-05-22 Thread bsei2816
of the Obito book for the year >> 1924.* >> >> >> >> *Rick* >> >> >> >> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto: >> azo...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *bsei...@gmail.com >> >> *Sent:* Monday, May 22, 2017 4:05 PM >>

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on record Ribeirinha Sao Miguel 1873

2017-05-22 Thread Margaret Vicente
ber of the Obito book for the year > 1924.* > > > > *Rick* > > > > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *bsei2...@gmail.com > *Sent:* Monday, May 22, 2017 4:05 PM > *To:* Azores Genealogy > *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy]

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on record Ribeirinha Sao Miguel 1873

2017-05-22 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
Hi Bill , The number refers to the entry number of the Obito book for the year 1924. Rick From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of bsei2...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 4:05 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on record Ribeirinha Sao Miguel 1873

2017-05-22 Thread bsei2816
I'm not sure what the margin numbers mean on Emilia's baptism, but the 35 wouldn't be her age in 1924. Wouldn't a child born in 1873 that married in 1895 at 22 years old be 51 years old in Sep 1924. Bill Seidler -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on record Ribeirinha Sao Miguel 1873

2017-05-22 Thread Margaret Vicente
> > > *As with all things we may never know the answer.* > > *Rick* > > > > > > > > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Margaret Vicente > *Sent:* Monday, May 22, 2017 12:44 PM > > *To:* azores > *Subject:* Re: [AZ

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on record Ribeirinha Sao Miguel 1873

2017-05-22 Thread Margaret Vicente
ay answer a few questions. * > > > > *As with all things we may never know the answer.* > > *Rick* > > > > > > > > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Margaret Vicente > *Sent:* Monday, May 22, 201

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on record Ribeirinha Sao Miguel 1873

2017-05-22 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
. As with all things we may never know the answer. Rick From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Vicente Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 12:44 PM To: azores Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on record Ribeirinha Sao Miguel 1873 Richard

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on record Ribeirinha Sao Miguel 1873

2017-05-22 Thread Margaret Vicente
ores@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Margaret Vicente > *Sent:* Monday, May 22, 2017 12:23 PM > *To:* azores > *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on record Ribeirinha Sao > Miguel 1873 > > > > Hi Richard and JR. > > > > The record is intent clear in t

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on record Ribeirinha Sao Miguel 1873

2017-05-22 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on record Ribeirinha Sao Miguel 1873 Hi Richard and JR. The record is intent clear in that it states the natural father Antonio da Silva Canario and the mother Helena Rosa, widow, naturals, parishioners residents of the parish. it then says

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on record Ribeirinha Sao Miguel 1873

2017-05-22 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi Richard and JR. The record is intent clear in that it states the natural father Antonio da Silva Canario and the mother Helena Rosa, widow, naturals, parishioners residents of the parish. it then says that the child Emilia Paternal and Maternal Grandparents are incognitos. This means both of

[AZORES-Genealogy] Question on record Ribeirinha Sao Miguel 1873

2017-05-22 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
JR and I are both scratching our heads on this record We need some other native speakers to take a look at this record and the wording and perhaps explain what the writer was trying to say. A few facts about it are Antonio da Silva Canario and Helena Rosa married in 1854 and have 3 children at

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Madeira research

2017-05-18 Thread Erica Botelho
Paul, Glad to hear the information was helpful! Erica From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:19 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Madeira research THANK YOU ERICA You have

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Madeira research

2017-05-17 Thread JR
einc at qwestoffice.net >> Erica Botelho >> >> -Original Message- >> From: azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Maria Lima >> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 8:49 AM >> To: AZORES >> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Madeira research

2017-05-17 Thread Paul
s, you can email me directly audiosourceinc > at qwestoffice.net > Erica Botelho > > -Original Message- > From: azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > azo...@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Maria Lima > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 8:49 AM > To: AZORES > Subject: [AZORES-Ge

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Madeira research

2017-05-16 Thread Liz Migliori
looking for. Not all parishes are available yet but a decent amount are. >> >> Denise D'Antona >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com> >> To: azores <azores@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Tue, May 16

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Madeira research

2017-05-16 Thread Cheri Mello
ble yet but a decent amount are. > > Denise D'Antona > > > > -Original Message- > From: Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com> > To: azores <azores@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Tue, May 16, 2017 4:07 pm > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Madeira r

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Madeira research

2017-05-16 Thread Maria Lima
o to the site that has what you're > looking for. Not all parishes are available yet but a decent amount are. > > Denise D'Antona > > > -Original Message- > From: Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com> > To: azores <azores@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Tue,

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