Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:48:39 -0700
From: Dan Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: gsview and ghostscript
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On 9/29/06, Richard [EMAIL
from the list of prerequisites for
gsview-4.7 in the book.
Thanks,
Richard
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the project needs a challenge. Trouble is I can't think what
it is!
Blessings and peace,
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Bruce Dubbs wrote:
TheOldFellow wrote:
No, it's a lot of applications that together provide a windowing system.
It certainly isn't ONE application, since you can miss lots of it out
and still have functionality.
I disagree. It is a lot of *programs* and *libraries* that together
compose
Archaic wrote:
On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 07:15:15PM +0100, Andrew Benton wrote:
Is that wise? As it stands LFS is out of date. Old gcc, old glibc, old
kernel headers. As soon as trunk moves to a newer toolchain everyone
will start using that. Why waste effort releasing a book that's already
Dan Nicholson wrote:
On 4/4/06, Randy McMurchy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2006-04-04 at 16:58 -0700, Dan Nicholson wrote:
Assuming the patch works as advertised, how should the change be
implemented? If the patch is deemed too large, we can always use the
development snapshot:
I've
Leila Downing wrote:
Diet Pill Breakthrough!!!
What if you could actually shed 10, 15 or even 25 pounds
quickly and safely in less then 30 days?
Actually, cutting your head off works quite as well in practice - you
can do it in under a second with a professionally built French
ex-government
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
Richard A Downing wrote:
In a fit of 'I can't stand another moment of thunderbird !' a few days
ago I built both slrn-cvs (slang-2) and tin. I have to say how good
thunderbird and pan are. If I had to run a system without X, then I
might just manage with tin
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
There is a proposal to replace slrn with tin in the book.
In a fit of 'I can't stand another moment of thunderbird !' a few days
ago I built both slrn-cvs (slang-2) and tin. I have to say how good
thunderbird and pan are. If I had to run a system without X, then I
might
Randy McMurchy wrote:
Richard A Downing wrote these words on 03/15/06 11:09 CST:
There appear to be at least three kinds of so called KDE applications:
1) Those that use QT, but don't depend on KDE at all.
2) Those that use KDE libs, but don't depend on the whole of KDE to
operate
Randy McMurchy wrote:
Hi all,
I was thinking about perhaps replacing the backticks (`) in the
configure commands of the GNOME packages to $(command) syntax, but
it occurred to me that $(command) might be a bashism and other shells
(zsh, csh, etc.) might not understand them.
Does anybody
Richard A Downing wrote:
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Richard A Downing wrote:
I've been using this package for some time to draw my cabinet making
projects. It's a good 2D package that can read/write Autocad dxf format
drawings.
http://www.ribbonsoft.com/qcad.html
If there is interest I'll write
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
Richard A Downing wrote:
http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/wiki/InstallQcad
Thanks. A few notes:
1) A package installed in /opt is not allowed to have files outside /opt
and /etc/opt
2) It would be nice to add some links, so that it this page
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Yes. I've been wanting to do the whole book, but I haven't made time
for it. I want links in the book to the wiki and internal links within
the wiki.
I was very pleased how well the wiki formatting lines up with Manuel's
style for the current book too. Sufficiently
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
I would like to announce that Dan Nicholson has been appointed as the
newest BLFS Editor. Please help me in welcoming him to the project.
-- Bruce
Oh dear, another lamb to the slaughter...
Dan - Be afraid, be very afraid. (but Good Luck).
R.
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dependent on qt-3.3.5 built a la BLFS.
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Dan Nicholson wrote:
On 2/25/06, Richard A Downing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been using this package for some time to draw my cabinet making
projects. It's a good 2D package that can read/write Autocad dxf format
drawings.
http://www.ribbonsoft.com/qcad.html
It looks cool to me
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
Hello,
I was going to report two issues in the current BLFS, but when expanding
snip
OTOH, I have used nail on occasion, but certainly not regularly. It is
most useful in sending messages from scripts, so that package should stay.
Other
It's not so much a valid domain name that needs to be inserted as a
domain name such that host.domainname will result in a valid DNS lookup.
I, for instance, have a local DNS server that recognises 109bean.org.uk
(which is valid, registered, responds to whois etc..) and my host, rad1,
looks up
It was pointed out on Greg's DIY-Linux list that make can be used to
print a dependency list - not nearly so beautifully as Nico's
dependency graph, but as a useful list.
I think it should be possible to generate the makefile directly from
the BLFS Book XML, but I'm not competent to do this
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 17:16:25 -0800
Dan Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For example, I'm betting Alexander knows where some solid
documentation for UTF-8 and udev are.
But it's probably UTF-8 encoded - and in Russian! :-)
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On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 20:38:47 +0500
Alexander E. Patrakov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
The make_fonts_map.sh script uses sort -0 +1 construction that
doesn't work with Coreutils-5.93. Please adjust this script before
installation:
sed -i 's/+0 -1/-k 1,2/' make_fonts_map.sh
Other
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 18:49:21 -0600
Randy McMurchy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please, all, tear
it apart and let me know where it needs fixing.
I like it. Apart from the personal touches, of course. Does 'Cool,
huh?' translate into Russian, Chinese, English? Perhaps
'Impressive, don't you
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 18:46:32 -0600
Bruce Dubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just updated the book to add a chapter on the BLFS Wiki in Chapter
1. I also added a link to the appropriate page on the wiki to openssl
as the end of the install section.
I would appreciate readers of this list
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 11:42:51 -0600
Bruce Dubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Richard A Downing wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 18:46:32 -0600
Bruce Dubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just updated the book to add a chapter on the BLFS Wiki in Chapter
snip
Just an idea:
Questions
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:27:11 +0100
Nico R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wrote a small program that allows you to get a graphical
representation of the BLFS dependencies.
snip
Awesome! Thanks Nico.
R.
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On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 10:48:28 -0600
Bruce Dubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Richard A Downing wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 23:17:24 -0600
Bruce Dubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not opposed to adding a section on scripting packages. Chapter 2
seems to be the appropriate place
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 23:17:24 -0600
Bruce Dubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Probably not much, but it is a lot different from the rest of the
book. There is also not much difference in just executing the
commands in the proposed script.
I don't know about you, but I script most of my packages.
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:30:19 + (GMT)
Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Agreed. AFAIK, nobody using the lfs family of books builds on m68k
[ shout now if I'm wrong! ],
I did have a certificate saying that I can program this beasty in
assembler, but have never done so in anger. The
On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 19:08:48 -0600
Tushar Teredesai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/9/06, Bruce Dubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tushar Teredesai wrote:
Agreed, it should either be /usr (my preference) or /usr/X11R7
(the appropriate version).
My preference is /usr/X11R7.
Though that
On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 18:22:22 -0600
Randy McMurchy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
DJ Lucas wrote these words on 01/09/06 18:09 CST:
I'll put up a more recent set if anyone would like to
look at them that accounts for the issues that have been found
recently.
At this point, I can't help but
On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 12:11:07 +
Richard A Downing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 18:55:57 -0500
Jeremy Huntwork [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would really like to get everyone's opinion.
All things being equal I think this looks like a good candidate for a
complete
On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 00:59:12 -0600
Bruce Dubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The way I look at it, we have four possibilities:
1. Ignore the issues.
2. Add i18n / CLFS issues to each package as they come up.
3. Have a section or appendix in the book to address the issues and
link each
On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 20:09:04 +
Andrew Benton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
I think I still prefer the wiki. And re-establishing a properly
moderated and full-featured wiki could benefit the entire LFS
community once again, not just BLFS. The only reason our old wiki
editing, got tendonitis, took up
Randy-baiting as a new hobby
But seriously though folks, thanks for another fantastic year, well up
to Scratch. Special thanks to Randy for putting up with me - I'll get
you next year.
A Happy and Holy Christmas to you and yours.
Richard.
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On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 15:49:48 -0600
Randy McMurchy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
long and ugly
Here we go:
1) +1
2) +1
3) The way I see it, the following dependencies can be adjusted as
they either are a)not practical or b)cannot be used:
A) +1
B) +1 - need Firefox to read book
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:49:45 -0600
Bruce Dubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I did want to raise a related issue. Should we discuss adding plugins
to support many of the pages on the web? Things like flash, audio and
video, etc. Perhaps these should be on a separate page for plugger.
I have to
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 23:39:40 -0600
Randy McMurchy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah. Functionally. But WTF is a Deer Park?
A place you hunt old dears. Most Stately Homes in England have one,
killing animals for sport is an old aristo tradition. At least they've
given up hunding ph^heasants
R.
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:24:22 -0600
Randy McMurchy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 12/16/05 21:15 CST:
OK, we keep it for now, but I don't see the many reasons to
keep it.
Only because you have blinders on, and you have been the strongest,
and only, proponent
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 21:49:16 -0600
Bruce Dubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Chris Staub wrote:
In the build instructions for Xorg and XFree86, it is recommended to
compile the lndir program and use it to create a shadow
directory of symbolic links where you will actually built the
package.
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 23:50:12 -0600
DJ Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
I am not very familiar with the libungif and giflib packages. the
imlib instructions says one or the other.
Are there any conflicts if both packages are installed?
Is one preferable over the
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
Richard A Downing wrote:
I'm sorry I started this again now. I have to say I am more confused
than ever. Do the guys (I use the term loosly, as 'imbeciles' seems
more appropriate right now) upstream have any idea of the difficulties
they are creating
Guys,
The method documented in the svn book doesn't work for me. The script
that the 15-alsa.rules file associates with udev's discovery of a
control interface is never apparently called (Udev-063).
I also don't seem to be able to get the snd_pcm_oss module loaded, which
is required for
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
Richard A Downing wrote:
Guys,
The method documented in the svn book doesn't work for me. The script
that the 15-alsa.rules file associates with udev's discovery of a
control interface is never apparently called (Udev-063).
Now I have it working, and all I
Randy McMurchy wrote:
Richard A Downing wrote these words on 10/25/05 10:51 CST:
and that doesn't change anything. It still never calls the script.
Now I'm out of ideas.
You could always go back to the way it was by having it restore
the volumes at boot (from /etc/rc.d/init.d/alsa
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
Richard A Downing wrote:
Now I have it working, and all I did was to to mv the rules file
elsewhere and back again. This has me completely baffled :-)
Gremlins.
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Heck, do you think so? I saw that movie. Maybe I should burn the
computer, or pehaps
Richard A Downing wrote:
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
Richard A Downing wrote:
Guys,
The method documented in the svn book doesn't work for me. The script
that the 15-alsa.rules file associates with udev's discovery of a
control interface is never apparently called (Udev-063).
Now I
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
In some non-list traffic, there has been some discussion of UTF-8 for
{,B}LFS. I'm posting this discussion to the wider community for comments.
The question is: should {,B}LFS support UTF-8? If so, who will be
responsible for the UTF-8 specific portions of the books and
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
Richard A Downing wrote:
there
may well be some packages we should add that ONLY work in Chinese or
Japanese in the longer term (we may be asked to do this by new friends,
and we should be open to that idea). I emphasise though that this needs
to be driven
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
Richard A Downing wrote:
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
Could you please download the latest UTF-8 livecd:
http://ums.usu.ru/~patrakov/lfslivecd/lfslivecd-x86-6.x-utf8-r1-nosrc.iso
Is there a way of booting an iso without writing it to a CD? I have
several
Filip Bartmann wrote:
Why isn,t one package with other packages in tar archive(as package
lfs-packages.tar) for BLFS?
Filip Bartmann
Of course, you could volunteer to build and maintain (after every commit
to SVN), and host (with good bandwidth) such a thing, Filip. If you
work out the
Randy McMurchy wrote:
it seems so pointless to install Epiphany when it itself
requires a Gecko rendering engine (Mozilla or Firefox or Thunderbird)
as a required dependency.
Despite not being a GROAN user myself, I can't see the point in putting
all the rest of it in the book and then
Randy McMurchy wrote:
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 10/05/05 13:16 CST:
As for gnome-1, I'm not sure
why anyone would be using that.
It is a must for GnuCash. Which is a really, really good
financial/cash manager application.
Of course, you have to have some cash
R.
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Richard A Downing wrote:
To put it simply, I just don't enjoy being an editor - and I'm
embarrased that I have
Archaic wrote:
On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 01:15:46AM -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote:
Thoughts from the group would be appreciated...
A generic users groups seems like it could be a security nightmare for a
sysadmin. People who do need to share files generally belong to a
descriptive group such
Randy McMurchy wrote:
Richard A Downing wrote these words on 09/20/05 02:10 CST:
For the record, I am still running a 200 Mhz Pentium MMX as my firewall,
and don't plan to retire it any time soon. I also run a 133Mhz laptop,
which is perfectly usable.
And you compile fortran, java, ada
Kevin Jordan wrote:
On 9/13/05, Richard A Downing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just got though building it on the GCC-4 system. It appears to work
well. (gtk+-2.8.3/glib-2.8.1/pango-1.10.0/atk-1.10.1/cairo-1.0.0)
I was kind of surprised that nothing already linked to gtk/glib broke
either
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Seems reasonable to me. Want to take a stab at it?
It should go in the Important Information chapter, but I don't know if
it should be a new section or a subsection of Notes on Building Software.
-- Bruce
Done. Perhaps someone will check that I used the most
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
snip
I'm inclined to add these to the book with the exception of krb4
(because we already have krb5).
Opinions?
There seem to be a lot of new packages going in recently. I thought
(but this might hark back to Larry-days) that there was pressure to
exclude things that are
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Tushar Teredesai wrote:
We were on break for the last couple of weeks :) So now it is B2W.
Not *all* of us. :)
-- Bruce
Ah! The priviledges of rank.
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the samples as QA
scripts. I would be quite keen to write some of these myself.
I have more to say on this is it meets general acceptance, but I'll
reserve that if the idea is rejected (and so save my fingers ;)
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Bruce Dubbs wrote:
I've just committed several changes to the Editors' guide. Please take
a look and see if thee is more needed. I specifically addressed the
issues in bugs 1480 and 1486.
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/edguide/index.html
-- Bruce
I'm still reading and digesting
Randy McMurchy wrote:
Any help would be appreciated.
I patched it too (gcc-3.3.6 on my gcc-4 system).
Script say:
patch -Np1 -i ../gcc-3.3.4-no_fixincludes-1.patch
patch -Np1 -i ../gcc-3.3.4-linkonce-1.patch
Log say:
patching file gcc/Makefile.in
Hunk #1 succeeded at 2341 (offset 6
Randy McMurchy wrote:
And your theory that it was applied to the 3.4.x and above branches
make sense.
Just noticed that in the 3.4.4 patch Jim Gifford says 'Upstream Status:
Delayed till 3.4.4' ( it IS 3.4.4 !). So I guess it wasn't, and hence
needs to be the LFS Ch6. My best guess is
what I want ( the list of changes
since I last looked ). I'd go so far as to say I think LFS should go
back to the BLFS way!
-1
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Randy McMurchy wrote:
M.Canales.es wrote these words on 08/17/05 13:43 CST:
I'm speaking about the real changelog entries, the ones grouped by date and
divided by editor/change.
Oh, well why didn't you say so? :-)
Seems to me the only difference is that the date is only listed once
M.Canales.es wrote:
El Miércoles, 17 de Agosto de 2005 20:44, Richard A Downing escribió:
M.Canales.es wrote:
I'm not in favour of this. I like the strict chrono order of the
current changelog. IMO, the new one is more cluttered (more sections),
and I find it more difficult to find what I
Randy McMurchy wrote:
Richard A Downing wrote these words on 08/17/05 12:33 CST:
Just noticed that in the 3.4.4 patch Jim Gifford says 'Upstream Status:
Delayed till 3.4.4' ( it IS 3.4.4 !). So I guess it wasn't, and hence
needs to be the LFS Ch6. My best guess is that it is still needed
Tushar Teredesai wrote:
On 8/9/05, David Fix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Though I don't have an install.log file... Is that standard?
(Aw crap, now I'm showing that I don't know how to create this file! :P)
See the last paragraph in
if anyone finds a bug? Or is there (2) some rigourous methodology
being followed by someone to ensure everything works (together)?
In either case I think I agree with Randy. The bugs found seem to be
quite interesting and are throwing up significant improvements to the book.
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Randy McMurchy wrote:
Hi all,
I'm just about finished building the GCC4 branch of LFS which is
(I believe) trunk using GCC-4.0.1.
Me too (built LFS GCC4-20050730 on my Athlon XP).
So I'm ready to help validate the branch.
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you will be surprised by the speed with which GCC-4 will become
the mainstream for LFSers.
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there is a rising head of steam to change. I would suggest
that we look at it, post 6.1 release. It will need testing against all
the options (which the LiveCD doesn't use, e.g. gnomeVFS).
Would we want to do the same for thunderbird and mozilla?
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If anyone thinks that I left out something critical or put in too much,
please let me know.
-- Bruce
I'd like to add fcron-2.6.7 (Bug#1482) because I'm updating the text to
fix bug#1472, and it has a fix for a nasty mailing bug.
I have to text it anyway.
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This says that it has a dependency on Mozilla. In fact either Firefox or
Thunderbird will do too (you might even be able to use Netscape). If
you do use those then you need to add something like:
--with-nspr-libs=/usr/lib/firefox-1.0.3
--with-nss-libs=/usr/lib/firefox-1.0.3
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