Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

> Outlook Express is for the Mac OS only, although of course it will > work in Classic. Entourage is the Mac OS X version of an Exchange > client, and has reportedly recently been debundled from Office; it > costs $99 or so, I believe. > > As far as I know, Microsoft no longer supply a free

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

On 03/01/2003 at 16:39 -0500, David H. Adler wrote: On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 03:51:14PM -0500, Drew Taylor wrote: I just ran across an Eudora importer for Mail.app on version tracker yesterday. "Eudora Mailbox Cleaner - 1-step migration from Eudora to Mail.app"

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

On 03/01/2003 at 22:58 -0500, Peter R. Wood wrote: The general sequence of events was: Apple releases original Sherlock; Actually, the original Sherlock was version 1 for Mac OS 8.5, which was a slightly beefed up (and genuinely usable) version of the old Find File app. Then OS 9 (*)

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At 9:03 PM -0500 1/3/03, Chris Devers wrote: On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Dan Sugalski wrote: One of the nice things about keeping your mail on the server and going with IMAP--at least changing clients is reasonably simple, though there's still that pesky address book & filter issue. Hence the joy

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

At 22:58 -0500 2003.01.03, Peter R. Wood wrote: >The general sequence of events was: Apple releases original Sherlock; >Karelia releases Watson to 'complement' Sherlock; Apple awards Karelia >'Most Innovative Mac OS X Product of 2002'; Apple releases Sherlock 3 >(which is a dead ringer for Watson)

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> * Sherlock / Watson > OSX 10.0 came out with its version of Sherlock (3.0?), and it was... > meh. Then Watson came out, and trounced it in every way -- this is very > neat software for getting information of all sorts from the internet. > Then Jaguar brought Sherlock 3.5, and -- supposedly by

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Dan Sugalski wrote: > One of the nice things about keeping your mail on the server and going > with IMAP--at least changing clients is reasonably simple, though > there's still that pesky address book & filter issue. Hence the joy of [b] procmail & friends (which keeps your

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

At 4:39 PM -0500 1/3/03, David H. Adler wrote: On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 03:51:14PM -0500, Drew Taylor wrote: I just ran across an Eudora importer for Mail.app on version tracker yesterday. "Eudora Mailbox Cleaner - 1-step migration from Eudora to Mail.app"

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

I don't know anything about EveryBuddy, but for a cross-service IM client, Fire.app is okay -- and it's GPL too! It's just not as cute as iChat though... :) Also, if you've got Fink/OroborOSX, Gaim is an option -- I seem to recall that can do multiple protocols now... I guess I could include

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

I don't know anything about EveryBuddy, but for a cross-service IM client, Fire.app is okay -- and it's GPL too! It's just not as cute as iChat though... :) Also, if you've got Fink/OroborOSX, Gaim is an option -- I seem to recall that can do multiple protocols now...

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Mikey Smelto wrote: > Does EveryBuddy run on OSX? I haven't had to run a chat client on linux > for a while, but when I did (about a year and a half ago) EveryBuddy > handled AOL, Yahoo, MSN, and ICQ messaging decently. I don't know anything about EveryBuddy, but for a

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

* iChat The cartoon metaphor for IM discussion works surprisingly well, and the integration with the system address book is useful. On the other hand, it seems to crash a lot, and it would be nice if it could integrate with other IM services. (On the gripping hand, it would be better still

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

At 15:15 -0600 2003.01.03, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote: >Adam Turoff [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth: >*> >*>Really? I flipped through it in the bookstore and didn't find much >*>of value to a long-time UNIX user. Specifically, I wanted to see much >*>more discussion about netinfo and other

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

Thanks to everyone who has responded so far. Here's a summary of the replies. I think I have lots to look forward to now. :-) User Groups --- Boston Mac Users' Group http://www.bmac.org Next meeting on Wed Jan 8, 2002 at MIT campus MacWoburn user group http://www.macwoburn.org Meets at

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 03:51:14PM -0500, Drew Taylor wrote: > I just ran across an Eudora importer for Mail.app on version tracker > yesterday. > "Eudora Mailbox Cleaner - 1-step migration from Eudora to Mail.app" > http://www.versiontracker.com/moreinfo.fcgi?id=13341=mac I'm actually not being

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> > Really? I flipped through it in the bookstore and didn't find much of > value to a long-time UNIX user. Specifically, I wanted to see much more > discussion about netinfo and other darwin/osx-isms that you don't find > on other *NIXes. The coverage of netinfo was pretty much limited to >

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

Adam Turoff [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth: *> *>Really? I flipped through it in the bookstore and didn't find much *>of value to a long-time UNIX user. Specifically, I wanted to see much *>more discussion about netinfo and other darwin/osx-isms that you don't *>find on other *NIXes. The coverage of

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

At 03:54 PM 1/3/03 -0500, Ron Newman wrote: On Friday, January 3, 2003, at 03:51 PM, Drew Taylor wrote: I just ran across an Eudora importer for Mail.app on version tracker yesterday. "Eudora Mailbox Cleaner - 1-step migration from Eudora to Mail.app"

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

On Friday, January 3, 2003, at 03:51 PM, Drew Taylor wrote: I just ran across an Eudora importer for Mail.app on version tracker yesterday. "Eudora Mailbox Cleaner - 1-step migration from Eudora to Mail.app" http://www.versiontracker.com/moreinfo.fcgi?id=13341=mac It's not perfect, but it's

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

At 12:41 PM -0500 1/3/03, Chris Devers wrote: On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Dan Sugalski wrote: At 2:18 PM -0500 1/2/03, darren chamberlain wrote: Dead-simple. Copy your Windows mail folder over and tell Mac eudora about it and you're set. (Done it both ways, works very nicely) More broadly, Eudora

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

At 12:07 -0500 2003.01.03, Peter R. Wood wrote: >Keep up on the latest Mac software, news, etc: > >http://versiontracker.com/macosx/ - tracks new Mac software releases >http://www.macintouch.com/ - Mac news and commentary >http://www.lowendmac.com/ - for folks like you who have older Macs

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Dan Sugalski wrote: > At 2:18 PM -0500 1/2/03, darren chamberlain wrote: > Dead-simple. Copy your Windows mail folder over and tell Mac eudora > about it and you're set. (Done it both ways, works very nicely) More broadly, Eudora uses mbox format, doesn't it? Mail.app does

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, darren chamberlain wrote: > * Andrew M. Langmead [2003-01-03 11:47]: > > The unicode support is nice. Your foreign spam comes in its proper > > script, rather than funny escape characters that mess up for text > > display (like frequently happens with mutt) >

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

> 4. More in-depth books than "Missing Manual". Hints on hardware > especially helpful. Run, don't walk, to get O'Reilly's "Mac OS X For UNIX Geeks" - if want to leverage your UNIX knowledge with your new Mac system, this book will be invaluable. I got a copy for Christmas... it's very handy. >

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

At 11:47 -0500 2003.01.03, Andrew M. Langmead wrote: >The Oroboro OS X window manager is a very Ob Pedantic: It is "OroborOSX", which is a combination of "Oroborous" and "Mac OS X". http://www.dreamind.de/oroborus.shtml >The unicode support is nice. Your

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 11:10:02AM -0500, Drew Taylor wrote: > 2. What are your favorite/must have utilities? Just to make sure, has anyone pointed out the Fink project to you? These are ports of common Unix utilties and applications to Mac OS X. Its a convenient

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 01:31:25PM -0500, Drew Taylor wrote: > I know everyone raves about mutt, and will probably look into it at some > point. But it seems strange to be using a text-oriented mail program in one > of the prettiest GUI's available. What do you mean? I use mutt all the time

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

On Thursday, January 2, 2003, at 11:10 AM, Drew Taylor wrote: I've recently gotten a Mac OS X (10.2.3) box up & running. DREW TAYLOR WINS. FLAWLESS VICTORY. 1. Are there any local Mac mailing lists? I'm subscribed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] already. 2. What are your favorite/must have

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

At 2:18 PM -0500 1/2/03, darren chamberlain wrote: * Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-01-02 14:08]: At 1:31 PM -0500 1/2/03, Drew Taylor wrote: > I know everyone raves about mutt, and will probably look into it at > some point. But it seems strange to be using a text-oriented mail >

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

At 2:24 PM -0500 1/2/03, Drew Taylor wrote: At 02:09 PM 1/2/03 -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote: I've not used Mail.app, but I do use Eudora. As mail clients go, it's pretty nice, and free (Which is a good thing) if you don't mind a small and unobtrusive ad window. (Or reduced functionality) I've

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

At 02:09 PM 1/2/03 -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote: I've not used Mail.app, but I do use Eudora. As mail clients go, it's pretty nice, and free (Which is a good thing) if you don't mind a small and unobtrusive ad window. (Or reduced functionality) I've been a Eudora user for many years now. I

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

* Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-01-02 14:08]: > At 1:31 PM -0500 1/2/03, Drew Taylor wrote: > > I know everyone raves about mutt, and will probably look into it at > > some point. But it seems strange to be using a text-oriented mail > > program in one of the prettiest GUI's available.

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

At 1:31 PM -0500 1/2/03, Drew Taylor wrote: I know everyone raves about mutt, and will probably look into it at some point. But it seems strange to be using a text-oriented mail program in one of the prettiest GUI's available. ;-) I also wonder if Mail.app is the best available GUI email

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

At 11:12 AM 1/2/03 -0500, darren chamberlain wrote: * Drew Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-01-02 11:06]: > X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 > > I've recently gotten a Mac OS X (10.2.3) box up & running. Not using it yet, though, huh? :) I should note that I sent the email

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

On Thursday, January 2, 2003, at 11:10 AM, Drew Taylor wrote: 1. Are there any local Mac mailing lists? I'm subscribed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] already. You'll want to get on the announcement list for the Boston Mac Users' Group, bmac.org . Here's the annoncement for next week's meeting:

Re: [Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

* Drew Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-01-02 11:06]: > X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 > > I've recently gotten a Mac OS X (10.2.3) box up & running. Not using it yet, though, huh? :) > 2. What are your favorite/must have utilities? > 3. Are you using Mail for email? Plusses

[Boston.pm] OT: Favorite Mac OS X utilities

Sorry for the OT post, but I know there are lots of OS X users on this list. :-) I've recently gotten a Mac OS X (10.2.3) box up & running. It's a beige G3 running at 266MHz (not too bad w/ 400+MB of RAM). Now I'm trying to make the Switch. I've read Pogue's "Missing Manual" and found it very