Re: [ccp4bb] crystal orientation during data collection

2011-11-18 Thread Frank von Delft
I believe you achieve completeness more quickly (fewer crystals) if you just take random orientations. At least, that's what I learnt from Dave Stuart. phx On 18/11/2011 04:20, Frank Murphy wrote: Yanwu, I surmise from your question that you are inquiring how to go about collecting from

Re: [ccp4bb] crystal orientation during data collection

2011-11-18 Thread Mark J van Raaij
I don't think one can generalise that much. In the Stuart case of BTV, only 1-3 useful images per crystal could be obtained if I remember correctly - so there the random strategy orientation makes sense. I.e. if you collect one image and then wait until the orientation and strategy is

Re: [ccp4bb] crystal orientation during data collection

2011-11-18 Thread Harry Powell
Hi Frank I believe (at least part of) the key to the 30S ribosome structure was being able to orient the crystals carefully and collect the data accordingly - see Brodersen et al, Acta Cryst. (2003). D59, 2044-2050 Completeness, while important, ain't everything. On 18 Nov 2011, at 08:26,

[ccp4bb] La Caixa fellowships

2011-11-18 Thread Mark J van Raaij
Dear prospective PhD students, for those considering coming to Spain, it may be worth applying for a La Caixa fellowship. The website is: http://www.cnb.csic.es/content/about/lacaixa/index.php?l=0 You do not have to present a project, in fact you only choose which lab to go to after being

Re: [ccp4bb] pointless problem

2011-11-18 Thread Phil Evans
Pointless will do the best it can with whatever data you give it, but if it is already merged then it can only check for under-merging, or for reindexing The normal use is for unmerged data as output by an integration program such as Mosflm or XDS, as a prelude for scaling with Aimless or

[ccp4bb] Manually setting 96 wells plates with lower volume samples!

2011-11-18 Thread xaravich ivan
Hi, I apologize in advance as it is not a ccp4 related question, but over the years, CCP4bb is synonymous with protein crystallographers virtual university, at least for me. Ok, now I do not have an easy access to crystallization robot, so I was hoping if someone here have ever used the 96 well

[ccp4bb] FreeR in the case of few reflections

2011-11-18 Thread Aaron Alt
Hi all, I have data indexed in I23 with ~3000 unique reflections. Having set aside 10% of these my refinements still go berserk. The maps do look fine though. The same happens when reindexed in lower symmetries. Phenix autobuild finishes for example with 28/40 and I get similiar results (although

Re: [ccp4bb] Manually setting 96 wells plates with lower volume samples!

2011-11-18 Thread Shya Biswas
Hi, I am routinely using the gryphon robot from Art Robbins.This instrument can dispense 0.02microlitre at minimum. Your drops can dry out if you use such low volumes you have to be really fast. You can set up 0.2 to 0.1 micro litre drops using this for 96 well plates however the instrument needs

[ccp4bb] Combining big MTZs

2011-11-18 Thread Jacob Keller
Dear Crystallographers, I am getting an error when I try to merge two mtz's from mosflm, one with 180 and one with 360 frames, each from different but similar crystals--see below. I can't imagine this really exceeds the max number of records, so what am I doing wrong? Additionally but related,

Re: [ccp4bb] crystal orientation during data collection

2011-11-18 Thread Jacob Keller
Generally speaking, don't we agree that planned or rational is better than random? (Having trouble understanding the argument for randomness here...) Jacob On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Sanishvili, Ruslan rsanishv...@anl.gov wrote: Depending on the crystal shape, “random orientation” is not

Re: [ccp4bb] Combining big MTZs

2011-11-18 Thread Phil Evans
There's a limit set in CCP4/lib/src/sorting_main.f C NMAX_MEM increased from 1600 to 3200 PARAMETER (NMAX_MEM = 3200) which you could change and recompile (:-)) You can combine unmerged files in Pointless, which is usually the best method, but that reads everything into

Re: [ccp4bb] Combining big MTZs

2011-11-18 Thread Jacob Keller
Okay, it seems there is utility to Pointless--problem solved! Maybe developers should consider upping the limit, though? Thanks very much, Jacob On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Phil Evans p...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk wrote: There's a limit set in CCP4/lib/src/sorting_main.f C     NMAX_MEM

Re: [ccp4bb] Combining big MTZs

2011-11-18 Thread Phil Evans
Pointless should supercede sortmtz, at least for most purposes, but I agree it should be increased Actually it's inconsistent in the source code, elsewhere there is PARAMETER (NMAX_MEM = 1600) but that may not matter Phil On 18 Nov 2011, at 15:50, Jacob Keller wrote: Okay, it

Re: [ccp4bb] Manually setting 96 wells plates with lower volume samples!

2011-11-18 Thread Shya Biswas
sorry totally misunderstood your question, however if you can ship your protein i can always try to setup a tray for you. Shya On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 9:34 AM, xaravich ivan xaravich.i...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, I apologize in advance as it is not a ccp4 related question, but over the years,

[ccp4bb] Off Topic: Hanging drop/sitting drop teaching video

2011-11-18 Thread REX PALMER
Just enquiring on the off chance that someone has/knows of a teaching video demonstrating the setting up of hanging and/or sitting drops for crystallisation.   Rex Palmer http://www.bbk.ac.uk/biology/our-staff/emeritus-staff http://rexpalmer2010.homestead.com

Re: [ccp4bb] Manually setting 96 wells plates with lower volume samples!

2011-11-18 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Fri, 2011-11-18 at 06:34 -0800, xaravich ivan wrote: Ok, now I do not have an easy access to crystallization robot, so I was hoping if someone here have ever used the 96 well plates for manually setting drops with much lower solution/sample volumes (0.1-0.2micro litres). The best we

Re: [ccp4bb] FreeR in the case of few reflections

2011-11-18 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi Aaron, here is what I would do: - create 10-20 independent test sets containing 5% of reflections (make sure lattice symmetry is taken into account - Phenix does it by default); - solve and refine structure for each of the data set (make sure you use such a refinement strategy so you don't

Re: [ccp4bb] Manually setting 96 wells plates with lower volume samples!

2011-11-18 Thread Martin Hällberg
Hi, With the electronic Biohit 8 channel pipette you can set up 3x96 drops in 5 minutes. Lowest volume is 0.2 ul. We have used this system for a couple of years with RNase free filter tips for RNA-protein complexes. With the recent arrival of a shared Mosquito we have used the Biohit less but

Re: [ccp4bb] odd arginines

2011-11-18 Thread James Holton
An excellent review of the specific damage reactions observed in cryo-cooled MX is Burmeister (2000) http://dx.doi.org/10.1107/S0907444999016261 There is also a Beginner's Guide to Radiation Damage that was published in JSR a few years ago. Burmeister's Fig 3 shows difference density

[ccp4bb] Crystallization plates - 24 well

2011-11-18 Thread Poorva Dharkar
Hi, I need to buy 24-well crystallization plates. I want to know the review of crystallization plates other than Hampton research Molecular Dimensions (cheaper still good to work with). Has anyone used liked the ones from Jena biosciences? Thank you, Poorva Dharkar National Cancer

[ccp4bb] sealing slides on VDX plates?

2011-11-18 Thread Dima Klenchin
Hello, I wonder what everyone is using for sealing hanging drop slides on VDX plates? For the most part, we paraffin oil but I am unhappy with it because it is too think and too frequently there is break in the oil and the drop dries too much. I find vacuum grease to be not terribly practical

Re: [ccp4bb] sealing slides on VDX plates?

2011-11-18 Thread Bosch, Juergen
Dow Corning Heavy Vacuum Grease, a 10 ml syringe and a shorter cut 200 µl tip attached to the syringe. Jürgen On Nov 18, 2011, at 12:55 PM, Dima Klenchin wrote: Hello, I wonder what everyone is using for sealing hanging drop slides on VDX plates? For the most part, we paraffin oil but I am

Re: [ccp4bb] sealing slides on VDX plates?

2011-11-18 Thread malhotra
Vaseline (pure, with no additives) from CVS/Walgreens in a 10 ml syringe and a pipette tip (wide bore) also works very well. On 11/18/11 12:58 PM, Bosch, Juergen wrote: Dow Corning Heavy Vacuum Grease, a 10 ml syringe and a shorter cut 200 µl tip attached to the syringe. Jürgen On Nov 18,

Re: [ccp4bb] FreeR in the case of few reflections

2011-11-18 Thread Robbie Joosten
Hi Aaron, You don't explain why you have so few reflections. Is it a small cell, low resolution or just really bad data? Assuming it's not the last one and your data is reasonably complete, I would try this: - Divide your reflections into six groups (and check that these groups

Re: [ccp4bb] sealing slides on VDX plates?

2011-11-18 Thread Prince, D Bryan
I remember a technique that used warmed Vaseline (liquefied) in a shallow pan. People would invert the plate and dip it into the liquefied Vaseline, then flip it over to dry. I suppose one could use masking tape to cover the outer edge of the plate to keep it Vaseline free. I am not sure how it

Re: [ccp4bb] sealing slides on VDX plates?

2011-11-18 Thread Christopher Browning
The is probably the cleanest and fastest way of greasing plates. Take a 15ml Falcon tube and unscrew the cap. You will notice that the cap is exactly the width as the well of the VDX plate. Using a fairly wide bored metal syringe needle, pierce 8 holes into the cap from the outside, along the

Re: [ccp4bb] sealing slides on VDX plates?

2011-11-18 Thread Patrick Loll
Haven't done this for a while, but what we used to do was mix Vaseline plus mineral oil (both purchased for cheap at the local drugstore), and then apply it using a 10 ml syringe with a pipet tip attached. We used the mixture of Vaseline + mineral oil because Vaseline alone is too viscous

Re: [ccp4bb] sealing slides on VDX plates?

2011-11-18 Thread Kay Perry
I have used melted Vaseline and a 10mL Erlenmeyer flask. The mouth of the Erlenmeyer is the same size as the opening of the VDX plate. Dip flask mouth in melted Vaseline, then press the mouth of the flask onto the opening of the VDX plate. - Original Message - From: Dima Klenchin

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2011-11-18 Thread Sampath Natarajan
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Re: [ccp4bb] Manually setting 96 wells plates with lower volume samples!

2011-11-18 Thread Ho Leung Ng
Hello Ivan, You can dispense 0.1-0.2 uL drops with the PB-100 repeating dispenser from Hamilton and a 10 uL glass syringe. But it's rather clumsy and hard on the hands. I don't recommend using it with 96 well plates. It's too slow to do the whole plate at one time without your drops drying