Re: [ccp4bb] Alexander Rich passed away Monday April 27, 2015

2015-04-30 Thread Edward A. Berry
Some details of one controversy Prof. Rich became embroiled in are available on the wikipedia page for his colleague Sung-Hou Kim (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Sung-Hou). Especially references 6-8, which are scanned copies of correspondence exchanged with the folks at MRC, e.g. the initial

Re: [ccp4bb] The predicted unit cell is large and all the molecules will be around the longest axis.

2015-04-26 Thread Edward A. Berry
Also collect while rotating around the long axis, which you nearly are in this shot assuming the Phi axis is horizontal. That way the close separation is in x,y where you can see it rather than in Z which puts the spots on top of each other requiring thin slicing and (low mosaicity!) to

Re: [ccp4bb] HPLC vs FPLC for protein purification

2015-04-20 Thread Edward A. Berry
On 04/20/2015 06:44 PM, xaravich ivan wrote: Hi CCP4eans, solvent based HPLC system? Do you mean like acetonitrile:water:TFA on reverse-phase columns? I think this is routinely used for analytical runs or to obtain material for protein chemistry, but the concentration of acetonitrile

Re: [ccp4bb] funding experiences - query

2015-04-14 Thread Edward A. Berry
One of my projects was caught in the transition- as long as we didn't have crystals diffracting to high resolution, the project was highly significant but was denied (continuation of) funding for lack of confidence we would get the structure. After we got good crystals and phased them they said

Re: [ccp4bb] Sortwater NCS Matrix input

2015-04-02 Thread Edward A. Berry
On 04/01/2015 08:47 PM, Shane Caldwell wrote: I guess the next, probably more general question for the bb is: which utilities export an NCS transformation matrix with more precision? TAJones' O program allows you to specify output format like write .LSQ_RT_m2m ncs.odb (3f16.10) which gives

Re: [ccp4bb] 来自李孝蓉 xiaoron...@cau.edu.cn的邮件

2015-03-23 Thread Edward A. Berry
To be sure it is protein, it would be nice to see some spots at resolution less than (spacing greater than) ~12 A. The pattern is somewhat consistent with a unit cell with two very short axes and one long axis. If so, then when you rotate so that the long axis is in the plane of the picture

Re: [ccp4bb] Off-topic - Crystallisation in anaerobic glove box

2015-03-18 Thread Edward A. Berry
Do you have evidence that the oil blocks diffusion of O2? O2 is a nonpolar molecule, generally much more soluble in oils than in water. I'm not sure about silicone oils, but I would think they also dissolve O2 readily. eab On 03/18/2015 08:02 AM, Patrick Shaw Stewart wrote: Hi Steve I have

Re: [ccp4bb] Off-topic - Crystallisation in anaerobic glove box

2015-03-18 Thread Edward A. Berry
Actually I may have misunderstood the original post. Patrick never said oils block O2 diffusion: On 03/18/2015 09:47 AM, Edward A. Berry wrote: The microbatch-under-oil method is very handy for anaerobic work: (In a glove box, of course) 1. You can keep the microbatch

Re: [ccp4bb] adjusting bad Ramachandran angles

2015-02-25 Thread Edward A. Berry
If you use restraints to fix outliers, I strongly suggest to refine to convergence without restraints after they are fixed. If some outliers return, and % favored decreases, so be it. For one thing, depositing a structure with dihedrals restrained gives an unfair impression of higher quality

Re: [ccp4bb] adjusting bad Ramachandran angles

2015-02-25 Thread Edward A. Berry
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Re: [ccp4bb] Blob Game

2015-02-23 Thread Edward A. Berry
Ethanol? You weren't setting up drops with liquor on your breath, were you? On 02/23/2015 12:20 PM, Keller, Jacob wrote: Dear Crystallographers, I've got a strange blob hanging off an arginine--see attached. Any ideas? Nothing weird in the prep; cryst+prot conditions: NH4SO4, TRIS/HEPES,

Re: [ccp4bb] P3212--1's in Space Group Names?

2015-02-18 Thread Edward A. Berry
Well let me further muddy the waters by insisting that the 1 IS DEFINITELY a place-holder, telling you that there is no rotation (greater than 1-fold) along the a or b axes, and that the 2 therefore refers to 2-fold rotation along the next axis, the ab diagonal (no the -a,b diagonal which is

Re: [ccp4bb] Cis-peptide bond checking

2015-02-16 Thread Edward A. Berry
However it is important to note that there are real non-proline cis peptides in high-resolution structures, and to not throw out these babies with the bathwater! In fact I think they are probably under-represented because people are hesitant to build a non-pro cis peptide even when the

Re: [ccp4bb] Cis-peptide bond checking

2015-02-16 Thread Edward A. Berry
, A., and Wampler, J. E. (1990) J. Mol. Biol. 214, 253–260 D. Pal, P. Chakrabarti, Cis peptide bonds in proteins: residues involved, their conformations, interactions and locations, J. Mol. Biol. 294 (1999) 271–288. (and I'm sure that is far from complete) On 02/16/2015 12:30 PM, Edward

Re: [ccp4bb] Mosflm Error Msg

2015-02-03 Thread Edward A. Berry
Is the old mosflm.lp open in an editor? Some editors will put a lock on the file which would prevent mosflm from overwriting or renaming it. On 02/03/2015 11:38 PM, Keller, Jacob wrote: Dear Crystallographers, Has anyone come across this message before with imosflm in Win7? I think

Re: [ccp4bb] How to apply NCS restraint to a ligand in refmac?

2015-01-30 Thread Edward A. Berry
Include the ligand residue in the NCS restraint-group to which the surrounding protein residues belong? On 01/30/2015 08:24 PM, Ethan A Merritt wrote: On Saturday, 31 January, 2015 00:51:08 Jurgen Bosch wrote: Hi Ethan, DM with a mask of the ligand in chain A then applying the NCS

Re: [ccp4bb] Redundancy vs no of frames

2015-01-18 Thread Edward A. Berry
Also RAID (REDUNDANT array of inexpensive disks). To me redundancy implies robustness, overdetermination, like when I measure absorbance at 1500 wavelengths to calculate the concentration of five absorbing species with a 2-parameter baseline offset. Exactly the connotation we want for our

Re: [ccp4bb] Free Reflections as Percent and not a Number

2015-01-04 Thread Edward A. Berry
convergence, no matter how many cycles of refinement you run. eab Best, Tim On 11/25/2014 07:29 PM, Edward A. Berry wrote: provided the jiggling keeps the structure inside the convergence radius of refinement, then by definition the refinement will produce the same result irrespective

Re: [ccp4bb] Free Reflections as Percent and not a Number

2015-01-04 Thread Edward A. Berry
will). I agree that an RMSD of 0.054 should be well within the radius of convergence at 1.8 A. Cheers -- Ian On 4 January 2015 at 17:50, Edward A. Berry ber...@upstate.edu mailto:ber...@upstate.edu wrote: On 11/25/2014 01:41 PM, Tim Gruene wrote: Hi Ed, it is an easy

Re: [ccp4bb] Free Reflections as Percent and not a Number

2015-01-04 Thread Edward A. Berry
range), then by getting outside of that zone but still within radius of convergence, I might have seen it return to a point satisfactorily close to the starting point. Case not closed yet! On 01/04/2015 06:21 PM, Edward A. Berry wrote: I didn't think about that. Yes, weights were being re

Re: [ccp4bb] asymmetric homotrimer in the asu

2014-12-11 Thread Edward A. Berry
bacterioferritin in the I422 space group, like 1JGC, has a trimer in the asymmetric unit, but the biological unit is 24-mer! Looking at it another way, considering a dimer is two monomers crosslinked by a heme, the asu contains 1.5 dimers and hence 1.5 hemes! eab On 12/11/2014 07:27 AM, Hay

Re: [ccp4bb] Phenix refinement

2014-11-26 Thread Edward A. Berry
Your .eff file must be explicitly referencing the Ca that you removed. Since it doesn't exist, phenix stops. Search your .eff file for the string name CA and chain A and resname CA and resseq 1 (maybe a geometry.edit) and remove the reference. I think the CCP4 bylines specifically encourage

Re: [ccp4bb] Presence of Fe3+ or Fe2+

2014-11-26 Thread Edward A. Berry
If it is a heme or ironsulfur cluster then the reduced and oxidized forms have distinctly different spectra. Take a spectrum of your protein reduced with a few grains of dithionite and oxidized with a trace of hydrogen peroxide or ferricyanide (take another spectrum of ferricyanide alone since

Re: [ccp4bb] Free Reflections as Percent and not a Number

2014-11-25 Thread Edward A. Berry
provided the jiggling keeps the structure inside the convergence radius of refinement, then by definition the refinement will produce the same result irrespective of the starting point (i.e. jiggled or not). If the jiggling takes the structure outside the radius of convergence then the

Re: [ccp4bb] Free Reflections as Percent and not a Number

2014-11-20 Thread Edward A. Berry
Using a percentage might be justified as a trade-off between having ample free reflections for statistics and cutting too deeply into your completeness of working reflections for refinement. It seems to be generally agreed that 2000 free reflections is sufficient to guide your choice of

Re: [ccp4bb] water at the same exactly position

2014-10-29 Thread Edward A. Berry
That is a different question- I thought you already knew which atoms are duplicates. To identify them, there are programs that will print a list of pairs of atoms within a threshold distance from each other. But in this case I think plain old sort program will be easiest. 1. Get all the waters

[ccp4bb] problem with PEE.cif

2014-10-16 Thread Edward A. Berry
(for developers or whoever manages the .cif libraries. Is there a separate list?) PEE has been used (mainly by me) for the natural lipid PE (1,2-Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphoethanolamine), but the current PEE.cif specifies the wrong chirality about the glycerol C2 atom, giving un-natural

Re: [ccp4bb] is small dialysis tubes reusable??

2014-09-28 Thread Edward A. Berry
For even smaller volumes, make a dialysis button from an eppendorf tube: With a razor blade, cut the tube off leaving only the rim that the cap snaps into. Put your sample in the depression in the middle of the cap (inside). cover with membrane and snap the rim down over it. (I have done this but

[ccp4bb]

2014-09-27 Thread Edward A. Berry
On 09/27/2014 08:32 AM, Mark J van Raaij wrote: Hi Rohit, you should really ask Phenix questions on the Phenix bulletin board... Hey, some of us run Phaser from the CCP4i gui! (Otherwise I agree with the advice) On 27 Sep 2014, at 13:34, rohit kumar wrote: Dear All, . .

Re: [ccp4bb] ligand mismathces in pdb deposit

2014-09-14 Thread Edward A. Berry
1. what is the 3-letter code (residue type) of your heme? Ligand Explorer shows maybe half a dozen ligands for heme. Most notable HEM (protoporphrin 9 with Fe), HEC (same but with the double bonds in the vinyl substituents saturated) and HEA (heme a). There is even an entry for the

[ccp4bb] Problems with HEC.cif parameters

2014-08-18 Thread Edward A. Berry
(Don't know if this should go to developers or the list. Some users may have more information, or be interested in the information.) I'd like to point out what i believe to be errors in the HEC.cif file released with CCP4 version 6.2 and later. HEC is heme c which is regular heme as in

Re: [ccp4bb] cc1/2 value in hkl2000

2014-08-15 Thread Edward A. Berry
On 08/15/2014 09:40 AM, Faisal Tarique wrote: Hello everyone Can anybody please tell me where to locate the Corelation value between half sets (CC1/2) of a data processed through HKL2000 ?? First of all you must have a recent version of the suite- it didn't exist in earlier versions. Then,

Re: [ccp4bb] rigaku micromax 007 cooling

2014-07-24 Thread Edward A. Berry
Thermo scientific has air/water chillers. Google: thermo scientific neslab merlin recirculating chillers brings up the links. We have one of these cooling an Oxford xcalibur. It supplies circulating cold water under pressure which we hook up where the house chilled water would go on the

Re: [ccp4bb] [phenixbb] So what is unique?

2014-07-15 Thread Edward A. Berry
So on second thought, practically speaking I guess observed is all, since we never see the ones that are rejected by the -3 sigma observed criterion On 07/15/2014 12:44 PM, Edward A. Berry wrote: I don't think observed means all the reflections that were integrated, becasue one of the other

Re: [ccp4bb] question about powder diffraction

2014-07-08 Thread Edward A. Berry
The plane will scatter, and all atoms in the plane will scatter in phase if angle of incidence equals angle of reflection. this is how a mirror reflects. Furthermore all the parallel planes will also reflect at this angle. Trouble is the beams scattered from the different parallel planes are

Re: [ccp4bb] L-Dopa Stabilization?

2014-07-03 Thread Edward A. Berry
17:05, Edward A. Berry wrote: I see, L-dopa is a phenolic (o-quinolic actually) compound, same as what gets oxidized in sliced apples to turn them brown. At least, that's the way it used to be. http://www.okspecialtyfruits.com/arctic-apples/about-our-nonbrowning-apples Truly nonbrowning Arctic

Re: [ccp4bb] [phenixbb] Calculation of RSR for a fragment of PDB

2014-06-18 Thread Edward A. Berry
On 06/16/2014 04:26 PM, George Devaniranjan wrote: Hi everyone, I apologize at the beginning itself as I am new to using PHENIX/X-ray crystallography so this question might not make the most sense but I will try and explain it well. I cut out a part of a map for a PDB fragment using phenix

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] map manipulation questions

2014-05-20 Thread Edward A. Berry
But, if you convert to structure factors and recalculate the map in a different cell, the features will be stretched to fill the cell, which I take it is the original problem. I found Kleywegt's RAVE package very convenient for doing this, but i believe the functionality is now available in

Re: [ccp4bb] report mosaicity

2014-05-16 Thread Edward A. Berry
If you refine crystal mosaicity (I assume there is a way to do that in the gui) then scalepack prints out a single value for the crystal (search the logfile for mosaicity) eab On 05/16/2014 12:07 PM, hongshi WANG wrote: Dear all, Thanks for all your reply and useful comment on this. Harry,

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Refining Metal Ion Occupancy

2014-05-07 Thread Edward A. Berry
On 05/07/2014 10:52 AM, Tim Gruene wrote: At 2.5A resolution (the resolution this thread is about) But maps ae not made at 2.5 A but from say 30A to 2.5 A. In principle (i.e. if the 0,0,0 reflection were used), the effect of diminishing the amplitude of high resolution terms is not to

Re: [ccp4bb] coot problems to decrease R FREE

2014-04-24 Thread Edward A. Berry
On 04/24/2014 08:33 AM, Phoebe A. Rice wrote: If you are doing real-space refinement of the entire model against a map in coot, isn't it also important to make sure that the Rfree reflections were NOT used in calculating that map? Depending on how the map was made, that info can be hidden

Re: [ccp4bb] coot problems to decrease R FREE

2014-04-24 Thread Edward A. Berry
but using fill-in when calculating the map- replace the free reflections not with the measured values, or with zero, but with the value calculated from the previous model. Such an approach has been reccommended for density modification with R-free. eab On 04/24/2014 09:58 AM, Edward A. Berry wrote

Re: [ccp4bb] crystallographic confusion [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2014-04-19 Thread Edward A. Berry
There are three places in a pdb file where resolution is defined. Unfortunately by current conventions I believe they are all required to show the same value. If one of them could be redefined to be effective resolution, with a comment to explain how that was arrived at, it would take the

Re: [ccp4bb] Rmerge, Rmeas, I/sigma, Mn(I/sd)

2014-04-18 Thread Edward A. Berry
Roberto Battistutta wrote: Hi, in the Rupp book the following relation is reported (on pag 415): Rmerge ≈ 0.8/I/σ(I) referring to a relation of the linear merging R-value with the signal-to-noise ratio. in a 2006 CCP4bb, Manfred Weiss reported: Rrim (or Rmeas) = 0.8*sd(i)/I Bernhard Rupp

Re: [ccp4bb] Renumbering of water molecules during deposition

2014-04-07 Thread Edward A. Berry
After deposition (my experience is with RCSB) you will get back a processed file to verify. See how the waters have been renumbered, and renumber in such a a way that your original scheme is easily identifiable but in keeping with whatever the renumbering was trying to achieve- e.g. your waters

[ccp4bb] Structure factor equation

2014-04-01 Thread Edward A. Berry
Encouraged by recent help from the BB in filling in gaps in my understanding, maybe I can get help with another question: At the top of page 121 in Blundell and Johnson, it is written: The total wave scattered by a small unit of volume dv at a position r relative to the wave scattered from the

Re: [ccp4bb] difference between polar angle and eulerian angle

2014-03-31 Thread Edward A. Berry
I think I can agree with all of that. Thanks for helping me work this out! Ian Tickle wrote: We come up with the same conclusions with our different ways of thinking about it: for one, deriving the concatenated simple operators to represent a general rotation, and the

Re: [ccp4bb] difference between polar angle and eulerian angle

2014-03-31 Thread Edward A. Berry
, that is irrelevant and not helpful to my understanding. Tim Gruene wrote: Dear Ed, On 03/31/2014 08:55 PM, Edward A. Berry wrote: [...] Looking at the math, it depends whether you multiply from right to left or left to right x' = Rz(a) Ry(b) Rz(g) x or x' = Rz(a) (Ry(b) (Rz(g) x

Re: [ccp4bb] difference between polar angle and eulerian angle

2014-03-30 Thread Edward A. Berry
, Edward Berry ber...@upstate.edu mailto:ber...@upstate.edu wrote: Thanks, Ian! I agree it may have to do with being used to computer graphics, where x,y,z are fixed and the coordinates rotate. But it still doesn't make sense: If the axes rotate along with the molecule

Re: [ccp4bb] difference between polar angle and eulerian angle

2014-03-27 Thread Edward A. Berry
According to the html-side the 'visualisation' includes two back-rotations in addition to what you copied here, so there is at least one difference to the visualisation of the Eulerian angles. Right- it says: This can also be visualised as rotation ϕ about Z, rotation ω about the new Y,

Re: [ccp4bb] Add an atom in Coot

2014-03-18 Thread Edward A. Berry
Neat! How do you control the depth (front of slab to back of slab)? FOOS Nicolas wrote: Hi Remi, you place the pointer (pink cube) at the place where you want put the atom. After you click on Place atom at pointer (yellow square with blue cross). HTH Nicolas

Re: [ccp4bb] Add an atom in Coot

2014-03-18 Thread Edward A. Berry
axe, you replace the pointer at the right place and again 90 along Y, you replace and it should be good. Finnaly, you have to turn your model in different position and replace the pointer at the right place. De : Edward A. Berry [ber...@upstate.edu

Re: [ccp4bb] off-topic: protein losing FAD during purification

2014-03-13 Thread Edward A. Berry
And include FAD at a few uM in your column buffers. Although if you are getting two separate sharp peaks for protein and FAD, it doesn't sound like it is bleeding off during chromatography but rather already dissociated in the material you apply to the column. Take a spectrum of the material in

Re: [ccp4bb] : I on sig I

2014-02-21 Thread Edward A. Berry
Evans Edward A. Berry writes: Edwin Pozharski wrote: I just want to point out that what is requested upon uploading data to the Protein DataBank is NET I OVER AVERAGE SIGMA I To me it sounds pretty much like I/sigmaI. Yes, ADIT asks

Re: [ccp4bb] : I on sig I

2014-02-21 Thread Edward A. Berry
Eleanor Dodson wrote: Jim's point is that SigI is manipluated in the program, and its value reflects the programmers ideas. If you want to make your hair stand on end process the same data with SCALEPACK and MOSFLM and get the Riso between the 2 SIG estimates! 50% on a good day is

Re: [ccp4bb] : I on sig I

2014-02-21 Thread Edward A. Berry
Mark A. White wrote: *** For details on how to be removed from this list visit the *** *** CCP4 home page http://www.ccp4.ac.uk *** I have a couple of simple awk commands that will calculate both I/sI and Redundancy, by parsing the the scalepack output log. ### I/sigma

Re: [ccp4bb] I/sigmaI or I/sigmaI

2014-02-12 Thread Edward A. Berry
phenix.merging_statistics gives it also. And I think a recent post by Z.O. indicated the current version of the HKL suite gives I/sig(I) and new statistics including CC1/2 or CC*. Jacqueline Vitali wrote: Phil Jeffrey has a small program to calculate avg. I/sig for Table 1 including for

[ccp4bb] Stacey French (was Re: [ccp4bb] off-topic: bug busting)

2014-02-04 Thread Edward A. Berry
Govindjee and Fork's biography of Stacey French is available here: http://www.nasonline.org/publications/biographical-memoirs/memoir-pdfs/french-c-stacy.pdf or if your library subscribes to photosynthesis research, http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs11099-006-0041-6 Mark J van

Re: [ccp4bb] off-topic: bug busting

2014-02-04 Thread Edward A. Berry
Or if the tip is hopelessly pitted you can get a new one (for a Branson 1/2 inch horn) at: http://www.proequip.com/productlist.asp?pcid=31 (thanks to: http://blogs.cornell.edu/collinslab/2010/04/12/time-for-a-new-tip/ ) Reza Khayat wrote: A lot of ageing sonicators are not really ageing. Have

Re: [ccp4bb] fft

2014-02-01 Thread Edward A. Berry
You can use extend (now mapmask) to extend a map containing at least the ASU to arbitrary dimensions # fft \ hklin in5s.mtz \ mapout temp.map \ EOF-fft TITLE fft map RESO $LORES $HIRES LABIN F1=FP F2=FC PHI=PHIC SCALE F1 2.0 0.0 SCALE F2 1.0 0.0 FILLIN

Re: [ccp4bb] preparation of citrate buffer pH3-6.5

2014-01-30 Thread Edward A. Berry
If the pK's are well separated, so that only one is titrating at a time ( assume only two species exist at a time), the number of equiv of NaOH to add would be : 1/(1+10^(pK1-pH)) + 1/(1+10^(pK2-pH)) + 1/(1+10^(pK3-pH)) where each term transitions from 0 to 1 as pH passes through it's pKa In

Re: [ccp4bb] in vitro Tyr phosphorylation

2013-12-17 Thread Edward A. Berry
The kinase domain of FAK can be made constitutively active by a mutation and expressed in E. coli. It's called Super FAK Kinase. But i am afraid it is rather specific. If you don't get a better lead I can send you the sequence and a reference. Gloria Borgstahl wrote: Does anyone know of a good

Re: [ccp4bb] Observed criterion sigma(I|F)

2013-11-25 Thread Edward A. Berry
wrote: Hi Graeme, There was a CCP4BB thread about this quite recently (14th Nov 2013). I've coped below responses from Edward Berry and Matthew Franklin. SCALA AIMLESS have no sigma cutoffs, but TRUNCATE does. According to the documentation, reflections with intensities less than minus 4 standard

Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4 man-pages

2013-11-15 Thread Edward A. Berry
(assuming of course the .doc files aren't also missing). CDOC: Undefined variable. [berry@sbserv ~]$ ls $CCP4/doc ls: cannot access /sw/lnx/ccp4-6.4.0/doc: No such file or directory I second the request for continued man pages and .doc files Ian Tickle wrote: I agree completely with Tim: I

Re: [ccp4bb] observed criterion sigma

2013-11-14 Thread Edward A. Berry
As I understand it this refers to the decision whether an observation is valid or not, and the default value in HKL suite is -3 sigma (note the negative sign). The denzo/scalepack manual explains that while it is important not to exclude observations that are slightly negative due to random

Re: [ccp4bb] help on preparing EM map for mask generation and molecular replacement

2013-11-11 Thread Edward A. Berry
You may also have to change your grid for the fft (resampling in photoshop parlance). From the sfall documentation: Different spacegroups have special requirements for factorisation. No prime factors higher than 19 are permitted (The `atom map' generated on this grid has the asymmetric

[ccp4bb] monovalent cation binding sites

2013-11-08 Thread Edward A. Berry
Is there a server or program to predict binding sites for monovalent metal ions? Ideally should work with just the protein structure, but a program that sorts through the waters in a high resolution structure and tells which are likely to be K+ or Na+ would also be of interest. Ed

Re: [ccp4bb] monovalent cation binding sites

2013-11-08 Thread Edward A. Berry
/gerard/rama_server.pl ) One could also identity potential metal ions within COOT as well. HTH, Best Wishes, Partha On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Edward A. Berry ber...@upstate.edu mailto:ber...@upstate.edu wrote: Is there a server or program to predict binding sites for monovalent metal

Re: [ccp4bb] switching space group

2013-11-06 Thread Edward A. Berry
I liked Ian Tickle's 1-line ccp4 script for changing the space group with mtzutils. I believe CAD can do this also. In any case, there's no need to reprocess. Some reflections present in the current data will be systematically absent in the new space group, but presumably they will be eliminated

Re: [ccp4bb] [phenixbb] Appropriate number of reflections for FreeR

2013-11-03 Thread Edward A. Berry
constant... On 3 Nov 2013, at 12:50, Edward Berry wrote: Looking at it from the other side- suppose we say for a robust refinement we need a certain number of reflections- say 4 times the number of atoms, maybe less, I don't know. Any more than that is not really going to affect the structure, So

Re: [ccp4bb] crystals with large solvent content -dehydratation

2013-10-29 Thread Edward A. Berry
I wonder if there is a big difference between dehydrating in a drop, where the amount of mother liquor is essentially unlimited, and dehydrating a mounted crystal in something like the FMS, where there is only a thin film of ML on the surface. In the latter case, once the surface fluid is gone,

Re: [ccp4bb] Secondary St. representation

2013-10-08 Thread Edward A. Berry
Pro-Origami ? pdbsum ? Ashu Kumar wrote: Dear all, I am sorry for a non-ccp4 question. Does any one know of a server/program which can be used to draw the secondary structure elements e.g. If I specify 1-50 loop, 51-100 helix, 101-120 loop...like that...I have secondary structure prediction

Re: [ccp4bb] Secondary St. representation

2013-10-08 Thread Edward A. Berry
No, my mistake, those require a structure. If you have only sequence and predictions, I think TopDraw would be ideal. Edward A. Berry wrote: Pro-Origami ? pdbsum ? Ashu Kumar wrote: Dear all, I am sorry for a non-ccp4 question. Does any one know of a server/program which can be used

Re: [ccp4bb] Off Topic- Fe-S electron transfer

2013-10-01 Thread Edward A. Berry
BAL (British anti-lewisite?) is supposed to destroy the FeS2 Rieske cluster in complex III Don't know how general it is. Yuri Pompeu wrote: Dear Community, I apologize for the off topic question but it is hard to resist since so many of our colleagues are incredibly knowledgeable. I am

Re: [ccp4bb] Structural transmission of signal across a membrane

2013-09-24 Thread Edward A. Berry
Gloria Borgstahl wrote: Hello ccp4ers, I am helping a colleague develop a grant and have a vague recollection of structures of transmembrane protein receptors that signal across the membrane. Can anyone send me specific examples? Many thanks, G I think cytoplasmic and periplasmic domains

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Dependency of theta on n/d in Bragg's law

2013-08-23 Thread Edward A. Berry
. This is the kind of information we use to calculate our wonderful electron density maps. Best, Herman -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] Im Auftrag von Edward A. Berry Gesendet: Freitag, 23. August 2013 01:01 An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff: Re

Re: [ccp4bb] 3D printing structures?

2013-08-23 Thread Edward A. Berry
Along the same lines, does anyone have a program for converting Raster-3D format such as Molscript puts out, into one of the formats readable by a 3D printer? eab Ronnie wrote: An off-topic question-now that 3D printing is becoming more common, has anyone tried to print protein structures

Re: [ccp4bb] 3D printing structures?

2013-08-23 Thread Edward A. Berry
out VRML format files. Sometimes you need add additional 'struts' to give additional structural support, Jmol has option of adding these struts. best regards, Joel On 23 Aug 2013, at 21:33, Edward A. Berry ber...@upstate.edu mailto:ber...@upstate.edu wrote: Along the same lines, does anyone

Re: [ccp4bb] 3D printing structures?

2013-08-23 Thread Edward A. Berry
chokes trying to process the file. Cjeets, Artem On Aug 23, 2013 5:54 PM, Edward A. Berry ber...@upstate.edu mailto:ber...@upstate.edu wrote: Thanks, yes, i should have checked out the link on the original post before asking. Free programs blender or meshlab convert vmrl to .stl files

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Dependency of theta on n/d in Bragg's law

2013-08-22 Thread Edward A. Berry
herman.schreu...@sanofi.com wrote: Dear James, thank you very much for this answer. I had also been wondering about it. To clearify it for myself, and maybe for a few other bulletin board readers, I reworked the Bragg formula to: sin(theta) = n*Lamda / 2*d which means that if we take n=2,

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Dependency of theta on n/d in Bragg's law

2013-08-22 Thread Edward A. Berry
it by this new thread – does this makes sense? Gregg -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Edward A. Berry Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:16 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Dependency of theta on n/d

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Dependency of theta on n/d in Bragg's law

2013-08-22 Thread Edward A. Berry
) Ethan Merritt wrote: On Thursday, August 22, 2013 02:19:11 pm Edward A. Berry wrote: One thing I find confusing is the different ways in which d is used. In deriving Braggs law, d is often presented as a unit cell dimension, and n accounts for the higher order miller planes within the cell. It's

Re: [ccp4bb] Low 280 absorbance imidazole?

2013-08-21 Thread Edward A. Berry
Would you happen to know what the A280 of a 1M (or .1 M) solution is? I wonder if this absorbance is really due to impurities or is the tail of a weak absorbance band of imidazole itself. I notice A280 is not one of the properties sigma lists for its imidazole. Jan wrote: Hi Bernhard, this

Re: [ccp4bb] Low 280 absorbance imidazole?

2013-08-21 Thread Edward A. Berry
in absorbance above the background signal allowing quantitation of your protein. The absorbance of imidazole can vary depending on its source and purity, but elution buffer containing 250 mM imidazole usually has an A280 of 0.2–0.4. Cheers, Ed. On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 11:25 -0400, Edward A. Berry

Re: [ccp4bb] Rmerge of the last shell is zero

2013-08-15 Thread Edward A. Berry
Great! and (oops) now I realize what I meant to say was compare cc* with cc-work and cc-free. eab Nat Echols wrote: On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Edward A. Berry ber...@upstate.edu mailto:ber...@upstate.edu wrote: If you refine once in phenix you can use phenix.cc_star to calculate

Re: [ccp4bb] Rmerge of the last shell is zero

2013-08-14 Thread Edward A. Berry
But it is highly unlikely that sum(I) in the denominator is zero if I/sig(I) is 2 as reported (providing the sig(I) is valid- what was chi^2 in the last shell and overall?). I sort of disagree that R-merge values over 1.0 are meaningless, provided not too far over. Granted R-meas is more

Re: [ccp4bb] Off-topic: Crystallographic Symmetry Applications Available?

2013-08-01 Thread Edward A. Berry
It's not ideal but we have been using a program called XtalDraw on windows for this, to display the different lattices and to build up the content of the unit cell from a small molecule of 2 or 3 atoms by applying the different space group symmetries. The students can edit the coordinates file

Re: [ccp4bb] off topic: good peak on gel filtration

2013-07-27 Thread Edward A. Berry
. As I remember, GE healthcare's SEC manuals has recommended procedures on TP determination. Zhijie -Original Message- From: Edward A. Berry Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 7:43 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] off topic: good peak on gel filtration Peter Hsu wrote: Hi all

Re: [ccp4bb] post to ccp4bb

2013-07-23 Thread Edward A. Berry
Engin Özkan wrote: Also, why would we be using the batch-wise I/sigma's for determining resolution cutoffs? Agreed. For cutoff I guess it should be the final sigma going into the refinement program that matters, irrespective of whether that was achieve by averaging more images or using a

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] help identifying ligand

2013-07-08 Thread Edward A. Berry
@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] Im Auftrag von Edward A. Berry Gesendet: Sonntag, 7. Juli 2013 22:21 An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff: [ccp4bb] help identifying ligand In a structure I'm refining, there are a couple of oblong blobs associated with carboxylates. (screenshots at http://sb20.lbl.gov/berry/ccp4/azide/) If I

[ccp4bb] help identifying ligand

2013-07-07 Thread Edward A. Berry
In a structure I'm refining, there are a couple of oblong blobs associated with carboxylates. (screenshots at http://sb20.lbl.gov/berry/ccp4/azide/) If I modeled with two waters, they refine too close together for normal H-bond, 2.3 to 2.5 A; and their density is connected. I considered one

Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4i to shelxcde path error

2013-07-05 Thread Edward A. Berry
Right-click on the shortcut on your desktop, select properties, and see what folder it has for start in. Try changing it to C:/CCP4/6.3/bin/ if it is not. Or add that folder to your path. Perhaps windows has a notion of current directory and includes that in the search path, and when you start

Re: [ccp4bb] off topic: good peak on gel filtration

2013-06-29 Thread Edward A. Berry
Peter Hsu wrote: Hi all, I've generally always thought as long as the peak was symmetrical and not too broad would suggest a good sample. However, looking at my previous runs in the past, I've had peaks as narrow as 1.5-2mL on a 24mL SD200, or slightly broader peaks with about 3mL (all

Re: [ccp4bb] off topic: good peak on gel filtration

2013-06-29 Thread Edward A. Berry
a standard sample and calculate the TP based on the peak shape. As I remember, GE healthcare's SEC manuals has recommended procedures on TP determination. Zhijie -Original Message- From: Edward A. Berry Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 7:43 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] off

[ccp4bb] Definition of diffractometer

2013-06-19 Thread Edward A. Berry
Somewhere I got the idea that a diffractometer is an instrument that measures one reflection at a time. Is that the case, and if so what is the term for instruments like rotation camera, weisenberg, area detector? (What is an area detector?). Logically I guess a diffractometer could be

Re: [ccp4bb] Definition of diffractometer

2013-06-19 Thread Edward A. Berry
: Dear Ed, to me, an '-ometer' is a device that measures whatever you put in front of the 'o', so in case of a diffractometer that's a device that measures diffraction. Best, Tim On 06/19/2013 08:11 PM, Edward A. Berry wrote: Somewhere I got the idea that a diffractometer is an instrument

[ccp4bb] anomalous scattering server down?

2013-06-01 Thread Edward A. Berry
Is Ethan Merritt's anomalous scattering page at: http://www.bmsc.washington.edu/scatter/ down or moved, or the firewall I'm behind is blocking it? I want to check feasibility of a native-iron MAD experiment, and I'm not very good at math. thanks, eab

Re: [ccp4bb] anomalous scattering server down?

2013-06-01 Thread Edward A. Berry
of anomalous scatterers, and it tells you how accurate your data has to be to make the anomalous signal significant. Thanks, eab Bosch, Juergen wrote: seems to be down sorry. you should be able to use crossec from ccp4 Jürgen On Jun 1, 2013, at 6:47 PM, Edward A. Berry wrote: Is Ethan Merritt's

Re: [ccp4bb] anomalous scattering server down?

2013-06-01 Thread Edward A. Berry
-links.html?sfvrsn=0 From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Edward A. Berry [ber...@upstate.edu] Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 6:09 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] anomalous scattering server down? Hmm- looks like

Re: [ccp4bb] anomalous scattering server down?

2013-06-01 Thread Edward A. Berry
] on behalf of Edward A. Berry [ber...@upstate.edu] Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 6:46 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] anomalous scattering server down? That's what I wanted. Results are not promising- Bijvoet differences would be less than 2% at peak, and this is not lysozyme. Thanks

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