I have one Interprocessor Buffer (M8326). Of course just one won't help to
connect my Lab-8/e and my PDP-8/e. :-(
On Thu, 31 Aug 2023, 12:49 am Mike Katz via cctalk,
wrote:
> DEC did make the Interprocessor Buffer (M8326) for the Ominibus. That
> allowed for relatively high speed
I'm thinking more of sharing Omnibus devices and memory. Why not
C
On 8/30/2023 9:04 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
On Aug 29, 2023, at 8:46 AM, Chris Zach via cctalk
wrote:
-BUT- That does not mean it *can't* be restored, only that $15,000 is
ridiculous for a machine that
DEC did make the Interprocessor Buffer (M8326) for the Ominibus. That
allowed for relatively high speed communications between machines. You
could also do some kind of serial network like Lantastic. I know some
company made an SDLC board set for the omnibus.
On 8/30/2023 8:04 AM, Paul
On 2023-08-29 6:46 a.m., Chris Zach via cctalk wrote:
-BUT- That does not mean it *can't* be restored, only that $15,000 is
ridiculous for a machine that clearly needs an expert with time and
money.
b
True, it is a silly price. I was thinking about this on the forum: If
someone offers to
> On Aug 29, 2023, at 8:46 AM, Chris Zach via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>
>> -BUT- That does not mean it *can't* be restored, only that $15,000 is
>> ridiculous for a machine that clearly needs an expert with time and money.
>> b
>
> True, it is a silly price. I was thinking about this on the
> On Aug 29, 2023, at 7:02 AM, Gavin Scott via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 6:22 AM Peter Coghlan via cctalk
> wrote:
>> You reckon someone in Moscow is wishing they heard about this trick a week
>> ago?
>
> They instead chose the ever-popular Simplified Planetary Landing
>
-BUT- That does not mean it *can't* be restored, only that $15,000 is
ridiculous for a machine that clearly needs an expert with time and money.
b
True, it is a silly price. I was thinking about this on the forum: If
someone offers to buy one of my fully running 8/L's for 6k I'll put in
an
> On Aug 29, 2023, at 8:03 PM, Sellam Abraham via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2023, 7:02 AM Gavin Scott via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 6:22 AM Peter Coghlan via cctalk
>> wrote:
>>> You reckon someone in Moscow is wishing they heard about this trick a
>> week
On Tue, Aug 29, 2023, 7:02 AM Gavin Scott via cctalk
wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 6:22 AM Peter Coghlan via cctalk
> wrote:
> > You reckon someone in Moscow is wishing they heard about this trick a
> week ago?
>
> They instead chose the ever-popular Simplified Planetary Landing
> Approach
On 8/29/23 06:30, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote:
Oh baloney. As long as the backplane pins are not mushed
these are surprisingly easy to fix and mouse crap can be
vacuumed out and cleaned off the cards and pins.
The thing that drove me the most nuts was finding a
backplane wire that had worn
I hate what epay is doing to our hobby.
I prefer to sell and trade between our selves as reasonable prices
understanding that a lot of what we do is sweat equity.
If you think the hobby is bad, you should see what happened to housing.
"I know what I got!"
I have a lot of different geeky
On Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 6:22 AM Peter Coghlan via cctalk
wrote:
> You reckon someone in Moscow is wishing they heard about this trick a week
> ago?
They instead chose the ever-popular Simplified Planetary Landing
Approach Trajectory.
-BUT- That does not mean it *can't* be restored, only that $15,000 is
ridiculous for a machine that clearly needs an expert with time and money.
b
On Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 7:54 AM Mattis Lind via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Den tis 29 aug. 2023 kl 13:30 skrev Chris Zach via cctalk <
Den tis 29 aug. 2023 kl 13:30 skrev Chris Zach via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org>:
> Oh baloney. As long as the backplane pins are not mushed these are
> surprisingly easy to fix and mouse crap can be vacuumed out and cleaned
> off the cards and pins.
>
> The thing that drove me the most nuts
Oh baloney. As long as the backplane pins are not mushed these are
surprisingly easy to fix and mouse crap can be vacuumed out and cleaned
off the cards and pins.
The thing that drove me the most nuts was finding a backplane wire that
had worn through its insualtion and shorted against
Fred Cisin wrote:
On Tue, 29 Aug 2023, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote:
My trick for successful landing the CDC Cyber/6000 series lunar lander
version was to set the initial height above the moon's surface to the
minimum height of 1' and then let it drop. I never successful landed from
the
> On 08/28/2023 5:07 PM CDT Sellam Abraham via cctalk
> wrote:
> I think I've come up with a nice way to get that accomplished through good
> old market dynamics (i.e. voluntarily) with a subtle twist.
Well at some point in the next N years I need to sell off my S-100 stuff. If I
croak
On Tue, 29 Aug 2023, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote:
My trick for successful landing the CDC Cyber/6000 series lunar lander
version was to set the initial height above the moon's surface to the
minimum height of 1' and then let it drop. I never successful landed from
the default height above the
My trick for successful landing the CDC Cyber/6000 series lunar lander
version was to set the initial height above the moon's surface to the
minimum height of 1' and then let it drop. I never successful landed from
the default height above the surface. It was seriously difficult.
On Tue, 29 Aug
Look at the photos. Let it rust in peace in mouse heaven. It is just scrap.
On Tue, 29 Aug 2023, 1:30 am Bill Degnan via cctalk,
wrote:
> It can be yours for only $15,000 plus shipping
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/126067408991
>
> sheesh.
>
> Bill
>
I forgot to mention that I was playing the Focal version on a PDP-8/L
coincidentally.
On 8/28/2023 4:16 PM, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote:
I played the graphics lunar lander on a PDP-9 with a graphics display
and push buttons (not the sw) in a back room in the Kiewit Computation
Center at
-Original Message-
From: Sellam Abraham via cctalk
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2023 3:07 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Cc: Sellam Abraham
Subject: [cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000
On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 2:24 PM Brad H via cctalk
wrote:
>> Sometimes. But
Original message From: Sellam Abraham via cctalk
Date: 2023-08-28 3:10 p.m. (GMT-08:00) To: "General
Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Cc: Sellam
Abraham Subject: [cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000 On Mon,
Aug 28, 2023 at 2:27 PM Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk
wrote:> &g
On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 2:27 PM Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ethan O'Toole via cctalk
> > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2023 9:38 PM
> > To: Mike Katz via cctalk
> > Cc: Ethan O'Toole
>
On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 2:24 PM Brad H via cctalk
wrote:
> Sometimes. But a lot of times it's just simply trying to get as much as
> possible, which I guess is rational economic behavior. And the fault for
> the high prices is us collectors - ye who bid thousands for old Apple IIs
> or $3500
> -Original Message-
> From: Ethan O'Toole via cctalk
> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2023 9:38 PM
> To: Mike Katz via cctalk
> Cc: Ethan O'Toole
> Subject: [cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000
>
> > However, epay does charge an insertion fee so they will have to pay
&g
I hate what epay is doing to our hobby.
I prefer to sell and trade between our selves as reasonable prices
understanding that a lot of what we do is sweat equity.
On 8/28/2023 3:56 PM, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 11:50 AM Mike Katz via cctalk
wrote:
However,
values mean stuff that might
otherwise get discarded survives.
-Original Message-
From: Bill Degnan via cctalk
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2023 11:38 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Cc: Bill Degnan
Subject: [cctalk] Re: PDP-8/L $15,000
On Mon, Aug 28, 2023, 1:46 PM
I played the graphics lunar lander on a PDP-9 with a graphics display
and push buttons (not the sw) in a back room in the Kiewit Computation
Center at Dartmouth in like 1972 or 1973, the same time I was playing it
in text on a teletype ASR-33 in Focal. Hand typed in and punched to
paper tape.
> On Aug 28, 2023, at 4:55 PM, Will Cooke via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>
>
>> On 08/28/2023 3:48 PM CDT Paul Koning via cctalk
>> wrote:
>>
>> Lander, in FOCAL? The only one I know is for the GT40, in assembler.
>>
>> paul
>
> Apparently the original version was in FOCAL.
>
On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 11:50 AM Mike Katz via cctalk
wrote:
> However, epay does charge an insertion fee so they will have to pay even
> when it doesn't sell.
It's thirty five cents, and they usually don't charge it until it actually
sells. Then they dock you another 13.25% on the total the
> On 08/28/2023 3:48 PM CDT Paul Koning via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> Lander, in FOCAL? The only one I know is for the GT40, in assembler.
>
> paul
Apparently the original version was in FOCAL.
https://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~storer/LunarLander/LunarLander.html
Will
On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 11:38 AM Bill Degnan via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2023, 1:46 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org>
> wrote:
>
> > On 8/28/23 10:30, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
> > > It can be yours for only $15,000 plus shipping
> > >
> On Aug 28, 2023, at 4:41 PM, Mark Linimon via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>> (I'd normally sell one of mine for 6k working with Focal loaded up.
>
> Man, I hadn't thought of Focal in years.
>
> Never could beat that lunar lander someone wrote in it.
Lander, in FOCAL? The only one I know is for
However, epay does charge an insertion fee so they will have to pay even when
it doesn't sell.
Eh, you get a lot of free listings these days. They take a huge chunk
though.
- Ethan
> I think some Ebay sellers simply overpriced an item when they know it's
> probably valuable but they're not sure how much to sell for. They will
> wait for people to contact and say, "your price is way too high, you might
> sell if you charged $n instead."
>
> It's not an illogical tactic.
> (I'd normally sell one of mine for 6k working with Focal loaded up.
Man, I hadn't thought of Focal in years.
Never could beat that lunar lander someone wrote in it.
mcl
it's been there for over a week.
In unknown condition.
I think that price is disgustingly high.
I would love to have one but that is the down payment on a car, not a
used computer. Antique or not.
On 8/28/2023 12:30 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
It can be yours for only $15,000 plus
However, epay does charge an insertion fee so they will have to pay even
when it doesn't sell.
On 8/28/2023 1:37 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
On Mon, Aug 28, 2023, 1:46 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
On 8/28/23 10:30, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
It can be yours for only $15,000
I will say the desktop chassis thing is kind of snazzy. But man be
prepared to replace a LOT of 7474 flip flops and 8 input NAND gates
(they seemed to use those as drivers. Weird, but worked but put the chip
under serious stress when old)
On 8/28/2023 1:45 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
Aww! Looks like Mr. Mouse paid a visit. That will be fun to get running.
(I'd normally sell one of mine for 6k working with Focal loaded up.
They're cute and all, but 15k? And it nice to have a spare for
troubleshooting the other one if needed)
CZ
On 8/28/2023 2:37 PM, Bill Degnan via
On Mon, Aug 28, 2023, 1:46 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
> On 8/28/23 10:30, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
> > It can be yours for only $15,000 plus shipping
> > https://www.ebay.com/itm/126067408991
> >
> Well, if that doesn't fancy your tickle, you can have an equally
> rough-looking Morrow
On 8/28/23 10:30, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
> It can be yours for only $15,000 plus shipping
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/126067408991
>
Well, if that doesn't fancy your tickle, you can have an equally
rough-looking Morrow MD-1 for only $3500.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/126067197438
--Chuck
"not tested" and "mice have been inside of it".
sheesh ** 2.
mcl
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