Re: Wanna Do Pot? Move to Arizona

2002-11-05 Thread Jon Hall
lol buffets would be screwed :) Nah, I think Las Vegas would become much more of an international vacation spot...they would get a lot of the Amsterdam crowd. Anyway it looks like I'm going to be leaving Florida because it looks like these idiots passed another of their bi-yearly stupid constitut

RE: Robotic assassinations.

2002-11-05 Thread Lon Lentz
We did it with the permission of the Yemeni government. Do you think the Yemenis want Al Qaeda operating out of their country? I don't know where you get this idea that the US just goes around the world murdering innocent people and then "claiming" that they were terrorists. These people ar

Re: Robotic assassinations.

2002-11-05 Thread Howie Hamlin
- Original Message - From: "Angel Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 8:21 PM Subject: RE: Robotic assassinations. > Right..and killing foreign nationals on foreign soil is what? > Is the US At War with Yemen? > Because THAT

Re: ok I just deleted a ton of emails from today

2002-11-05 Thread Michael Dinowitz
What video are you watching. Sounds good. ;) > Boobs, Bikes, Bombs, Bush, Banks, Ballots, and Bondage. > > Errr no wait, that last ones from a separate lis::Enter:: > > > > -Original Message- > From: BethF [mailto:dawg@;alaska.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 4:30 PM > To: CF-Commu

Re: Robotic assassinations.

2002-11-05 Thread Michael Dinowitz
My mom is in the middle east right now. I'm not worried about Americans killing here there, I'm worried about terrorist scum. If she's even within a mile of a terrorist attack, I'll be the first one supporting military attacks on terrorist targets. I'm a nice guy who's all for peace, but there are

Re: Robotic assassinations.

2002-11-05 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Terrorism - The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons. Well, if the attack was against an organization (as y

RE: Wanna Do Pot? Move to Arizona

2002-11-05 Thread Matthew P. Smith
I think any tax income that the city made from the new industry would be more than offset by the lower profit margins and thus smaller tax contributions of the casinos. Those guys are going to start taking a serious loss on those "All-U-Can-Eat" $4.95 buffets. -Original Message- From: j

RE: Wanna Do Pot? Move to Arizona... err Nevada

2002-11-05 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
Because I screwed up in the subject line. Oh, and also because Arizona has a motion on the ballot for the legalization of marijuana for medical purposes... so :-P Hatton > -Original Message- > From: jon hall [mailto:jonhall@;ozline.net] > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 8:32 PM > To: CF

Re: Wanna Do Pot? Move to Arizona

2002-11-05 Thread jon hall
This makes so much sense...Nevada goes from spending millions of dollars a year on imprisoning marijuana users, etc to gaining tax revenue. Nevada's number one industry is "sin" already...it's not like they are going to have a big drop in productivity anyway :) I'm wondering why someone would want

RE: Robotic assassinations.

2002-11-05 Thread Angel Stewart
Right..and killing foreign nationals on foreign soil is what? Is the US At War with Yemen? Because THAT is an act of war! And if you dare say it is not just think how the US would react if China or Russia did it because they were at war with the Yakuza and attacked suspects in Washington with a

Re: Johnathon Harris dies (no more pain)

2002-11-05 Thread Howie Hamlin
This was on Fark.com yesterday :-) Funny thing about Jonathan Harris is that I always thought he was English (I remember watching him play Dr. Smith when I was a kid). Turns out that he was from the Bronx Here's another article: http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/TV/11/04/harris.obit.ap/index.ht

Johnathon Harris dies (no more pain)

2002-11-05 Thread Lon Lentz
I didn't see this anywhere else. I couldn't even find it on CNN or MSNBC. If someone has posted this here already, my apologies. http://www.reuters.com/news_article.jhtml?type=entertainmentnews&StoryID=168 3314 __ Lon Lentz Applications Developer EXImpact.com ~~~

RE: Legally Overthrow the Government

2002-11-05 Thread Dan Haley
It's an attitude like this though that will allow it to happen. If you don't publicly discuss these types of things then they are more likely to happen. The idea that the gal in Germany got slapped so hard for mentioning Bush and Hitler in the same sentence is ludicrous. Same thing though, if

RE: Where's prez todd?

2002-11-05 Thread Ben Braver
BenD said: >Predator: 1987 movie starring Arnie himself. Pretty good. Diablo -- >Hellfire: 1999ish release by Blizzard Software as an expansion pack to >Diablo. > > > > >--Ben Doom Programmer & General Lackey Moonbow Software NOT !! Predator = General Atomics Aeronautical Systems Inc. RQ-1B UA

RE: Wanna Do Pot? Move to Arizona

2002-11-05 Thread Dan Haley
Makes sense to me. There's a lot to be said for the legalization of marijuana, not the least of which would be a change in attitute towards the miracle product hemp. But why would I want to move to Arizona? ;) Dan -Original Message- From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:hatton@;fishertowne

Wanna Do Pot? Move to Arizona

2002-11-05 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
I was building a scorecard on the CNN Election results page and came across this: Shall the Nevada Constitution be amended to allow the use and possession of three ounces or less of marijuana by persons aged 21 years or older, to require the Legislature to provide or maintain penalties for using,

RE: Legally Overthrow the Government

2002-11-05 Thread Jim Davis
> Here's a question for you. Why did you become a US citizen > when all you do is criticize? You should just be happy that > you can be a citizen of a country like ours. It's one thing > to point out things here and there but you seem to have some > real issues with our country and, if that'

Re: Legally Overthrow the Government

2002-11-05 Thread booya booya
Here's a question for you. Why did you become a US citizen when all you do is criticize? You should just be happy that you can be a citizen of a country like ours. It's one thing to point out things here and there but you seem to have some real issues with our country and, if that's the case,

RE: Legally Overthrow the Government

2002-11-05 Thread Lon Lentz
The states could call for a Constitutional Congress and completely rewrite the Constitution. I wouldn't be in favor of such a move, but it could be done. Also, the Declaration of Independence does state that it is the duty of a free people to remove their government and replace it should it be

Re: What a brilliant Day!!!!

2002-11-05 Thread Ben Braver
hmmm, are they two-stroke or four-stroke?? ;-) -Ben >From: Critz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: What a brilliant Day >Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:56:17 -0500 > >oi Paris!! > >LOL > > >-- >Critz > Macromedia Certified Advan

RE: Legally Overthrow the Government

2002-11-05 Thread Jacob
Murphy's Law??? At 05:21 PM 11/5/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Yes, we could create an Amendment that would repeal the constitution, we >might have to have something to replace it tho. > > > > > Couldn't we add an amendment that said every other part of the > > Constitution was now null and void? (Of co

Re: What a brilliant Day!!!!

2002-11-05 Thread Critz
oi Paris!! LOL -- Critz Macromedia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer http://blog.ctzc.com";> Tuesday, November 5, 2002, 4:00:08 PM, you wrote: PL> well his bike and babe could have the same amount of CCs powering PL> them... PL> -Original

RE: Legally Overthrow the Government

2002-11-05 Thread Jacob
considering that the Declaration of Independence was a document of treason ;-) At 05:00 PM 11/5/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Then again, the wording of the Declaration of Independence could be >considered to give legal precedence if there is ever a real rebellion in >this country. > >larry > >-- >Larry

Re: What a brilliant Day!!!!

2002-11-05 Thread BethF
There are two types of OY: OY - the jewish grandmother type and OI - the young ones/sex pistols type - Original Message - From: "Critz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 2:52 PM Subject: Re: What a brilliant Day > oi Ben!!

Re: What a brilliant Day!!!!

2002-11-05 Thread Critz
oi Deanna!! Hey, let's not be a downer, huh? :) She's been talking about it for years, and probably still won't get it done till after she gets back from holiday in january, so I 'sume she's got all her bases covered on it. -- Critz Macromedia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer ht

Re: What a brilliant Day!!!!

2002-11-05 Thread Critz
oi Ben!! just slang I picked up a few years ago. Hell it's probably spelled oy. Hahaha spelling was never my strong suit oh well. Critterism -- Critz Macromedia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer http://blog.ctzc.com";> Tuesday, November 5, 200

Re: What a brilliant Day!!!!

2002-11-05 Thread Critz
oi Adam!! my old one was a kaw zx11. it should actually arrive within the next hour, course it's pouring rain, but that doesn't mean, I can't just sit in the garage and look at it :) -- Critz Macromedia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer http://blog.ctzc.com";> --

Re: Robotic assassinations.

2002-11-05 Thread Howie Hamlin
Bombing the USS Cole Bombing US Embassies Destroying the WTC Flying a plane into the Pentagon These are all acts of war, last I checked. - Original Message - From: "Angel Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 6:23 PM Subject:

Re: Robotic assassinations.

2002-11-05 Thread Howie Hamlin
The law forbidding assassinations was for assassinating heads of state. And, yes, it's been quietly rescinded... Howie - Original Message - From: "Larry Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 4:37 PM Subject: RE: Robotic assas

Re: Legally Overthrow the Government

2002-11-05 Thread Jacob
Get pass the missiles and land mines at the White House... sure ;-) At 03:34 PM 11/5/2002 -0600, you wrote: >Just curious. Is there some legal means of overthrowing a tyrant government? > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.c

RE: Robotic assassinations.

2002-11-05 Thread Angel Stewart
At 'war'?? With an organisation?? I thought that there were International Police etc. that dealt with criminal organisations. If the Heeby Jeeby Hoboknockers of Alabama blew up five federal buildings would you describe america as being At War with them? Please explain the 'War' thing...and how t

RE: Where's prez todd?

2002-11-05 Thread Ben Doom
Predator: 1987 movie starring Arnie himself. Pretty good. Diablo -- Hellfire: 1999ish release by Blizzard Software as an expansion pack to Diablo. --Ben Doom Programmer & General Lackey Moonbow Software : -Original Message- : From: Ben Braver [mailto:benbraver@;hotmail.com

RE: Robotic assassinations.

2002-11-05 Thread Lon Lentz
That wasn't assassination. We are at war with Al-Qaeda. -Original Message- From: Cantrell, Adam [mailto:Acantrell@;kentlaw.edu] Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 4:11 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Robotic assassinations. Surprised nobody has brought up the robotic assassination the CIA c

RE: Don't VOTE!!!!!

2002-11-05 Thread Lon Lentz
What voter intimidation? Lots of talk but no facts. -Original Message- From: Larry Lyons [mailto:llyons@;ebstor.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 3:07 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Don't VOTE! then again, if you look at all the attempts at discouraging minority votes in the

RE: Zoos

2002-11-05 Thread Dan Haley
Quite a bit like a zoo ... you have your animals who post all the time ... you have the visitors to the zoo who only watch the animals interact ... then there's the ones who just fall into the cages occasionally because they get too close to the edge ... :) Just a variation on the voyeurism them

Re: Robotic assassinations.

2002-11-05 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Michael Dinowitz wrote: > According to some, any American presence on Arab land makes them fair > game for death. That's a viewpoint that must be rejected, at least by > those who want peace and open-ness. I don't reject that viewpoint if the killing is done by the rules of due process. That w

RE: ok I just deleted a ton of emails from today

2002-11-05 Thread Angel Stewart
*wiggles her nearest earlobe* Nwope. -Gel And that was about it ;-) -Original Message- From: BethF [mailto:dawg@;alaska.com] I deleted all the emails I didnt' read from this list. Does anyone want to summarize what I missed? ~~~

RE: Robotic assassinations.

2002-11-05 Thread Angel Stewart
So now you fight Terrorism WITH Terrorism?? O_o?? Duh? But then that would make you aterrorist? -Gel -Original Message- From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:marlon@;mcmoyer.com] But how many more terrorists are inspired by the collateral damage inflicted on bystanders? Strikes with surgi

RE: Legally Overthrow the Government

2002-11-05 Thread Nick McClure
Exactly. > -Original Message- > From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:phoeunp@;entelligence.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 5:42 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Legally Overthrow the Government > > Tat's the thing. Our forefathers committed treason (against british > sovereignty), and

RE: Robotic assassinations.

2002-11-05 Thread Angel Stewart
Better hope it isn't your cousins or family in the middle east etc. that are targeted next time on unknown grounds of their being 'Terrorists' eh. And people question why US Foreign Policy may provide fodder for madmen to feed the fanatics at their disposal. I wonder what would have happened if

Re: Robotic assassinations.

2002-11-05 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Michael Dinowitz Master of the House of Fusion http://www.houseoffusion.com - Original Message - From: "Harkins,Patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 5:34 PM Subject: RE: Robotic assassinations. > Michael, > > Semantics aside.

RE: Legally Overthrow the Government

2002-11-05 Thread Phoeun Pha
Tat's the thing. Our forefathers committed treason (against british sovereignty), and are patriots at the same time! All a matter of viewpoint. blech. -Original Message- From: Nick McClure [mailto:cf-lists@;king-nacho.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 4:36 PM To: CF-Community Subjec

RE: Zoos

2002-11-05 Thread Nick McClure
Yea, just look at us. CF-Community Zoo. > -Original Message- > From: BethF [mailto:dawg@;alaska.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 4:25 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Zoos > > zoos not only educate the public about animals, which helps continue > conservation efforts, they also ar

RE: ok I just deleted a ton of emails from today

2002-11-05 Thread Phoeun Pha
Boobs, Bikes, Bombs, Bush, Banks, Ballots, and Bondage. Errr no wait, that last ones from a separate lis::Enter:: -Original Message- From: BethF [mailto:dawg@;alaska.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 4:30 PM To: CF-Community Subject: ok I just deleted a ton of emails from today I

RE: ok I just deleted a ton of emails from today

2002-11-05 Thread Nick McClure
No ;) > -Original Message- > From: BethF [mailto:dawg@;alaska.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 5:30 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: ok I just deleted a ton of emails from today > > I deleted all the emails I didnt' read from this list. > > Does anyone want to summarize what I mis

Re: ok I just deleted a ton of emails from today

2002-11-05 Thread Michael Dinowitz
There's always the archives. Nicely threaded and all. :) > I deleted all the emails I didnt' read from this list. > > Does anyone want to summarize what I missed? > > Beth F, denizen of Anchorage, AK > Owned by Kavik (samoyed) and Toklat (keeshond) > Owner of a Rans Gliss, Bacchetta Giro, Trek R

Re: Zoos

2002-11-05 Thread Ben Braver
>From: "BethF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Zoos >Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:24:10 -0900 > >- Original Message - >From: "Ben Braver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Tuesday, November 05,

RE: Legally Overthrow the Government

2002-11-05 Thread Nick McClure
Anybody who is trying to overthrow the government is guilty of treason. However if you are successful then the old government is gone, and the laws are no-longer valid. > -Original Message- > From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:phoeunp@;entelligence.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 5:21 PM >

RE: Where's prez todd?

2002-11-05 Thread Ben Braver
HUH >From: "Ben Doom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Where's prez todd? >Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:25:08 -0500 > >Okay, so we've established that you're going after him with a >Schwarzenegger >movie and the Diablo expansio

RE: Robotic assassinations.

2002-11-05 Thread Harkins,Patrick
Michael, Semantics aside Despite my own pacifist stance, I was moved by your comment on the necessity of such actions. A case for self-defence could certainly be made. That being said, no one has addressed to my satisfaction the issue behind one of Adam's original points, which is the emotio

RE: Robotic assassinations.

2002-11-05 Thread Phoeun Pha
Yeah Mikey's right. Viewpoints ARE skewed to the favor of each side. So we're all skewed, so skrew it! -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:mdinowit@;houseoffusion.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 4:21 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Robotic assassinations. > You co

Re: Legally Overthrow the Government

2002-11-05 Thread BethF
> But where do you draw the line between patriotism and treason? right here: _ ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.house

ok I just deleted a ton of emails from today

2002-11-05 Thread BethF
I deleted all the emails I didnt' read from this list. Does anyone want to summarize what I missed? Beth F, denizen of Anchorage, AK Owned by Kavik (samoyed) and Toklat (keeshond) Owner of a Rans Gliss, Bacchetta Giro, Trek R200, Kickbike and Merlin, the MTB http://www.bad-dawgs-in-ak.com A bic

Re: Robotic assassinations.

2002-11-05 Thread Michael Dinowitz
You only hear about the ones that hit innocent (and not so innocent) bystanders. There are surgical strikes that stop the person that its aimed at and him alone. Of course, the point is moot. When Israel stopped the strikes, the terror still went on. When they pulled out, the terror went on. The on

RE: Legally Overthrow the Government

2002-11-05 Thread Phoeun Pha
But where do you draw the line between patriotism and treason? -Original Message- From: Nick McClure [mailto:cf-lists@;king-nacho.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 4:20 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Legally Overthrow the Government And the Supreme Court has held that items in the

RE: Where's prez todd?

2002-11-05 Thread Ben Doom
Okay, so we've established that you're going after him with a Schwarzenegger movie and the Diablo expansion pack. What do you plan on doing, entertaining him into submission? --Ben Doom Programmer & General Lackey Moonbow Software : -Original Message- : From: Ben Braver [mail

Re: Zoos

2002-11-05 Thread BethF
- Original Message - From: "Ben Braver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 12:50 PM Subject: Re: Zoos > Beth- > > "behavior in captivity" - couldn't that also apply to studying us on our > jobs? ;-) no thats our natural habitat

Re: Legally Overthrow the Government

2002-11-05 Thread William Wheatley
you mean another REAL REBELLION right? Lets not forget the civil war - Original Message - From: "Larry Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 5:00 PM Subject: RE: Legally Overthrow the Government > Then again, the wording of th

RE: Legally Overthrow the Government

2002-11-05 Thread Nick McClure
Yes, we could create an Amendment that would repeal the constitution, we might have to have something to replace it tho. > > Couldn't we add an amendment that said every other part of the > Constitution was now null and void? (Of course, I'm not advocating this > - I'm just curious. :) > > -rc >

Re: Robotic assassinations.

2002-11-05 Thread Michael Dinowitz
> You could rephrase your last statement to be more accurate: > > "As for the president, no clue." > > seems an apt description. We :) > ;) > > Actually semantics is everything in the case of Israeli assassinations. From > a Palestinian viewpoint its a horrid human right violation. From the

Re: Robotic assassinations.

2002-11-05 Thread William Wheatley
Yea you can say there have still been attacks but can you say how many have been stopped by killing the scumbags who do them?? We dont hav ethe same perspective becaue we dont have to live with it here. - Original Message - From: "Marlon Moyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMA

RE: Legally Overthrow the Government

2002-11-05 Thread Nick McClure
And the Supreme Court has held that items in the Declaration of Independence are valid in today's laws. > -Original Message- > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:llyons@;ebstor.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 5:01 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Legally Overthrow the Government > > Th

RE: Legally Overthrow the Government

2002-11-05 Thread Nick McClure
If you successfully overthrow a government, then you make it legal ;) > -Original Message- > From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:phoeunp@;entelligence.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 4:34 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Legally Overthrow the Government > > Just curious. Is there some legal

RE: Where's prez todd?

2002-11-05 Thread Ben Braver
Oh yeah? Got a Predator and a Hellfire warming up right now... No way that dude is gonna usurp P.T.'s power, not while I have launch codes !! -Ben >From: "Ben Doom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Where's prez todd? >Date: Tu

RE: Don't VOTE!!!!!

2002-11-05 Thread Daryl Walsh
very good. McDonald's written a number of works on the people and ideas of the revolutionary period and is great at conveying all that knowledge in writing. at times E Pluribus is actually lol funny--not quite eddie izzard recounting the founding of the Anglican church; but refreshing as hell to

Re: Robotic assassinations.

2002-11-05 Thread Marlon Moyer
But how many more terrorists are inspired by the collateral damage inflicted on bystanders? Strikes with surgical precision might do something to eliminate the problem, but I don't think those are being done. Michael Dinowitz wrote: >>From a country that has at least one attempted attack a day

RE: Where's prez todd?

2002-11-05 Thread Ben Doom
Phoen overthrew him. --Ben Doom Programmer & General Lackey Moonbow Software : -Original Message- : From: Stephenie Hamilton [mailto:cf-community@;coldfusionwebs.com] : Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 4:58 PM : To: CF-Community : Subject: Where's prez todd? : : : Haven't seen

RE: Don't VOTE!!!!!

2002-11-05 Thread Jim Davis
> Unfortunately, both sides resort to dirty tricks, aka the > Philly flyer to poor neighborhoods with the wrong date and > warnings to pay tickets, clear outstanding warrants etc and > the Downstate Illinois flyer that said not to vote for George > Ryan. George is the current Gov and not runni

RE: Where's prez todd?

2002-11-05 Thread Dan Phillips
He posted here last week (I'm pretty sure anyway) while DevCon was going on. Other than that I have not seen him. I think he mentioned he was working again. Can anyone second that? Dan -Original Message- From: Stephenie Hamilton [mailto:cf-community@;coldfusionwebs.com] Sent: Tuesday, No

Re: Robotic assassinations.

2002-11-05 Thread Michael Dinowitz
>From a country that has at least one attempted attack a day (and usually more), its actually working rather well. Kill the terrorist leaders and the new ones will have to learn from scratch (and blow themselves up by accident which is often the case). Without the leaders, a parent can say no to so

RE: Legally Overthrow the Government

2002-11-05 Thread Harkins,Patrick
I'm not an expert, but I see law as a kind of antithesis of tyranny... the young Mohandas Gandhi was a law student, and pursued a kind of justice that eventually resulted in the end of the British colonial regime in India. Does that count? Patrick > : -Original Message- > : From: Phoeun

RE: Legally Overthrow the Government

2002-11-05 Thread Raymond Camden
> However we could never, legally, eliminate the constitution. > This would > be "overthrowing the government" but again, you'd be eliminating the > thing that determines legality. > Couldn't we add an amendment that said every other part of the Constitution was now null and void? (Of course, I

RE: Legally Overthrow the Government

2002-11-05 Thread Larry Lyons
Then again, the wording of the Declaration of Independence could be considered to give legal precedence if there is ever a real rebellion in this country. larry -- Larry C. Lyons ColdFusion/Web Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer EBStor.com 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 Manassas, V

RE: Robotic assassinations.

2002-11-05 Thread Larry Lyons
You could rephrase your last statement to be more accurate: "As for the president, no clue." seems an apt description. ;) Actually semantics is everything in the case of Israeli assassinations. From a Palestinian viewpoint its a horrid human right violation. From the Israeli point of view its a

Where's prez todd?

2002-11-05 Thread Stephenie Hamilton
Haven't seen him post in quite a long while Anybody know what happened to him? ~~ Stephenie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.410 / Virus Database: 231 - Release Date: 10/31/2002 ~~

RE: Don't VOTE!!!!!

2002-11-05 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Is it good reading? -Original Message- From: Daryl Walsh [mailto:dwalsh@;liquidprint.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 3:35 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Don't VOTE! nihil sub sole novum: Forrest McDonald's 'E Pluribus Unum' details the dirty tricks engaged in by both sides du

RE: Legally Overthrow the Government

2002-11-05 Thread Jim Davis
> Just curious. Is there some legal means of overthrowing a > tyrant government? Well, since a tyrant government would seem to (by definition) determine what's legal I would say "No". If the government isn't tyranical but merely annoying then perhaps they're might be a way. For example in the

RE: Legally Overthrow the Government

2002-11-05 Thread Ben Doom
Um. A tyrant probably won't provide a legal means of reforming the government. Just a thought. --Ben Doom Programmer & General Lackey Moonbow Software : -Original Message- : From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:phoeunp@;entelligence.com] : Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 4:34 PM : To:

Re: Zoos

2002-11-05 Thread Ben Braver
Beth- "behavior in captivity" - couldn't that also apply to studying us on our jobs? ;-) -Ben >From: "BethF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Zoos >Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:25:16 -0900 > >zoos not only educate the public about an

Re: Robotic assassinations.

2002-11-05 Thread Marlon Moyer
Yeah, we all see how well that policy has worked in Israelstopped all those terrorist attacks cold! William Wheatley wrote: >yea i was gonna post it but didnt want to get in another fight today :) > >Its about time we started doing like isreal and just blowing up these >maniacs before they

RE: Legally Overthrow the Government

2002-11-05 Thread Raymond Camden
I assume you mean legal as in world law or some such? Obviously if the country says you can't revolt, then there is no legal way to overthrow them. === Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Hire Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Robotic assassinations.

2002-11-05 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Semantics that can be used in Israel as well as other places. I guess this thread will eventually move into the definition of assassination and what actions are considered assassinations and what are military actions. As for the presidental order, no clue. I wouldn't put it past him. > At the same

Re: Legally Overthrow the Government

2002-11-05 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Phoeun Pha wrote: > Just curious. Is there some legal means of overthrowing a tyrant > government? That would depend on the law :) Jochem ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: h

RE: Robotic assassinations.

2002-11-05 Thread Phoeun Pha
I hate these word games. We take it as we see it. :) -Original Message- From: Larry Lyons [mailto:llyons@;ebstor.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 3:38 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Robotic assassinations. At the same time, the US considers itself to be in a war against terror

RE: Don't VOTE!!!!!

2002-11-05 Thread Daryl Walsh
nihil sub sole novum: Forrest McDonald's 'E Pluribus Unum' details the dirty tricks engaged in by both sides during the individual states ratification of the U.S. Constitution. luckily, supporters of the Constitution were better at dirty tricks than their opponents. -Original Message- Fr

Legally Overthrow the Government

2002-11-05 Thread Phoeun Pha
Just curious. Is there some legal means of overthrowing a tyrant government? ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&f

RE: Robotic assassinations.

2002-11-05 Thread Larry Lyons
At the same time, the US considers itself to be in a war against terrorism and terrorist groups like Al-Queda and its allies. Moreover the CIA, or rather parts thereof, are thought to be a military service. In that light its no assassination, just a military action against a known opponent. More

RE: Robotic assassinations.

2002-11-05 Thread Phoeun Pha
Thanks Steph! -Original Message- From: Stephenie Hamilton [mailto:cf-community@;coldfusionwebs.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 3:27 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Robotic assassinations. Quote from Walid Al-Saqqaf, managing editor of the Yemen Times: "Ali, who has been on the ru

Re: Robotic assassinations.

2002-11-05 Thread Jerry Johnson
Yes. And horrible and wonderful. And precedent setting. And never to be done again. (A little conflicted here) Jerry Johnson >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/05/02 04:10PM >>> Surprised nobody has brought up the robotic assassination the CIA conducted on Sunday in Yemen. http://dsc.discovery.com/news

Re: Robotic assassinations.

2002-11-05 Thread William Wheatley
Hell i have always agreed with Isaraels policy of blowing up terrorists give them a taste of there own medicine, why put your police officers in harms way to make an arrest which will most likely result in officers and the terrorist or both being killed. Use stand off weapons and kill them as long

RE: Whaaaaaaa

2002-11-05 Thread Andy Ousterhout
I am so sorry. Close your account immediately. I had a friend have the same thing happen and he tried to keep his old account open due to pre-authorized debits. Big mistake. He spent his life on the phone rejecting charged. Good luck, Andy -Original Message- From: Candace Cottrell [m

RE: Don't VOTE!!!!!

2002-11-05 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Unfortunately, both sides resort to dirty tricks, aka the Philly flyer to poor neighborhoods with the wrong date and warnings to pay tickets, clear outstanding warrants etc and the Downstate Illinois flyer that said not to vote for George Ryan. George is the current Gov and not running due to a sc

RE: Robotic assassinations.

2002-11-05 Thread Kevin Graeme
I think that U.S. soldiers should only be armed with titanium dentures and can only attack people by gnawing. -Kevin > -Original Message- > From: Raymond Camden [mailto:jedimaster@;macromedia.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 3:20 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Robotic assassi

Re: Robotic assassinations.

2002-11-05 Thread William Wheatley
:) even better he causes 12 Law officers to die yea screw that trying to get him crap blow his ass up - Original Message - From: "Stephenie Hamilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 4:27 PM Subject: RE: Robotic assassinations. >

Re: Robotic assassinations.

2002-11-05 Thread Michael Dinowitz
All I know is that America's been blasting Israel for doing the EXACT same thing. Watch the double standard as no one says a word against America doing it. Did it have to be done? Yes. If you know that a terrorist is traveling somewhere you kill him. Did it save lives? Yes. It stopped him from plan

RE: got a job..

2002-11-05 Thread Kevin Graeme
I suspect that may be true where you live, but not here. From what I've seen, cell prices in the U.S. are much higher than in other countries. As far as cell phones in general, the way I figure it is that for about 16 hours a day, I'm at one of two places. When I'm not there, I don't want to be bo

RE: Robotic assassinations.

2002-11-05 Thread Stephenie Hamilton
Quote from Walid Al-Saqqaf, managing editor of the Yemen Times: "Ali, who has been on the run and was believed to be harbored by tribesmen, has been the source of a massive hunt by security forces in Yemen. An attempt to capture him late last year failed. That botched attempt left more than a dozen

Zoos

2002-11-05 Thread BethF
zoos not only educate the public about animals, which helps continue conservation efforts, they also are huge sources of information about those animals. Both for science and for the public. Although, there is that thing about behavior in captivity. ~~

RE: Robotic assassinations.

2002-11-05 Thread Daryl Walsh
realistic: americans no longer have the stomach for flesh and blood casualities of war... -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:howie@;coolfusion.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 3:17 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Robotic assassinations. Terroists are cowardly. Killing

Re: got a job..

2002-11-05 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Harkins,Patrick wrote: > Could you please elaborate on how this is done and what is required? Have one server issue HTTP requests to another server and if the answer is not satisfactory do an HTTP post to an SMS gateway sending an SMS. Can be extended to the point where you have a modem in the

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