Re: Me as Ayn Rand?

Their description of Rand: This charismatic cult leader used science fiction as one of her recruiting tools for new converts. I never saw her work as SF, either ... I wonder which of her works they'd classify as SF? Unless they're mixing her up with L. Ron Hubbard. Judith Well, some of the

L.Ron Hubbard WAS Re: Me as Ayn Rand?

Hmm. L. Ron Hubbard and Ayn Rand the same person? He tackles the SF market and converts them all to scientology. Then, in his spare time under the pseudonym Ayn Rand, he works on the mundanes with his Objectivist ideas. Discuss ... Judith

Re: L.Ron Hubbard WAS Re: Me as Ayn Rand?

hmmm... well, they were both extremely horrible writers who expouse highly exploitative capitalistic self-actualization mythologies. could be a clue. brendan heber miscavage iii church of scientology international sea organization-2nd lieutenant humiliation, extortion, and celebrity-welfare

Jobs FYI

Just as a reminder ... GURU.com has web developer/designer/manager positions available across the country ... Cheers, Erika Plunge boldly into the thick of life! Each lives it, not to many is it known; and seize it where you will, it is interesting. - Goethe

RE: Jobs FYI

Yeah but nobody wants to live in the UK. *chuckles quietly* -Gel -Original Message- From: Erika L. Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Just as a reminder ... GURU.com has web developer/designer/manager positions available across the country ... Cheers, Erika

RE: Jobs FYI

true...true. w -Original Message- From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 December 2002 12:03 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Jobs FYI Yeah but nobody wants to live in the UK. *chuckles quietly* -Gel -Original Message- From: Erika L. Walker-Arnold

RE: Jobs FYI

its a US job site -Original Message- From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 December 2002 12:11 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Jobs FYI true...true. w -Original Message- From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 December 2002 12:03 To: CF-Community

RE: Me as Ayn Rand?

Cult leader? WTF Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 3:56 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Me as Ayn Rand? Their description of Rand: This charismatic cult leader used science fiction as one of her recruiting tools

RE: Me as Ayn Rand?

Robert A. Heinlein Beginning with technological action stories and progressing to epics with religious overtones, this take-no-prisoners writer racked up some huge sales numbers. One of my favorites, so I am not upset. Their description of Rand kind of bothers me. I mean the lady espouses

RE: Jobs FYI

My apologies ... I still think *american* ... Was intended for the US people on the list. Cheers, Erika ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription:

Living in the UK (RE: Jobs FYI)

| -Original Message- | From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | | Yeah but nobody wants to live in the UK. So, I don't get this phenomenom know as I can't stand the UK. Am I missing something? Am I blind? Living here has such fantastic advantages. You can travel wherever you

RE: L.Ron Hubbard WAS Re: Me as Ayn Rand?

Hehe, Again 2 of my favorite authors. highly exploitative capitalistic self-actualization mythologies As apposed to leftist community based feel good socialist drivel? Ok, Hubbard should have stuck to being an SF author, and from what I understand a lot of the

RE: Living in the UK (RE: Jobs FYI)

yay for erika w -Original Message- From: Erika L. Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 December 2002 12:38 To: CF-Community Subject: Living in the UK (RE: Jobs FYI) | -Original Message- | From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | | Yeah but nobody wants

RE: Living in the UK (RE: Jobs FYI)

Personally it's an individual liberty issue for me. I can't own forearms of the type or in the numbers that I do here. The media has very severe restrictions placed on what it can and can't report, in the name of national security, and I can be held for as long as the government sees fit on

Re: Me as Ayn Rand?

oh yeah, ayn had quite the little following that went beyond avid readership. group included the saintly alan greenspan as well. On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 07:21:38 -0500, Timothy Heald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cult leader? WTF Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: L.Ron Hubbard WAS Re: Me as Ayn Rand?

cf_fixTypo cfset one = 'won' /cf_fixTypo -Original Message- From: Timothy Heald Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 7:37 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: L.Ron Hubbard WAS Re: Me as Ayn Rand? Hehe, Again 2 of my favorite authors. highly exploitative capitalistic

RE: Living in the UK (RE: Jobs FYI)

how many forearms does one man need? ;) w -Original Message- From: Timothy Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 December 2002 12:42 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Living in the UK (RE: Jobs FYI) Personally it's an individual liberty issue for me. I can't own forearms of the type

RE: Living in the UK (RE: Jobs FYI)

As many as one man wants. -Original Message- From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 7:43 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Living in the UK (RE: Jobs FYI) how many forearms does one man need? ;) w -Original Message- From: Timothy Heald

RE: Living in the UK (RE: Jobs FYI)

I find two does the jobany more would feel greedy. w -Original Message- From: Timothy Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 December 2002 12:48 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Living in the UK (RE: Jobs FYI) As many as one man wants. -Original Message- From: Will Swain

RE: Living in the UK (RE: Jobs FYI)

Hey Tim, if you had eight forearms, they's call you Octopus! Cheers, Erika ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription:

RE: Living in the UK (RE: Jobs FYI)

Yeah right. Because it has worked so well in Israel, India, England and al the other countries that gave up liberty for security. Hehe. Oh well, anyone have a map to Galt's Gulch? Sorry, but what liberites have we given up here? We've got Security, OK, we don't have fire-arms in every

RE: Living in the UK (RE: Jobs FYI)

| From: Timothy Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | | Personally it's an individual liberty issue for me. I | can't own forearms of the type or in the numbers that I do | here. Most people can only have 2 ... Some people only have one ... Where would you put another? ;) | The media has

RE: Living in the UK (RE: Jobs FYI)

Funny, you have a higher violent crime rate now. -Original Message- From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 7:59 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Living in the UK (RE: Jobs FYI) Yeah right. Because it has worked so well in Israel, India,

RE: Living in the UK (RE: Jobs FYI)

Hehe, Missed the forearms vs firearms. Sorry. -Original Message- From: Erika L. Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 8:05 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Living in the UK (RE: Jobs FYI) | From: Timothy Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | |

Christmas Carols for the Psychiatrically Challenged

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Re: L.Ron Hubbard WAS Re: Me as Ayn Rand?

my issue isn't with the leaders of industry, tim -- the process and environment is already there to be used by whosoever can come along and make use of it. my issue is with the people who promote the status quo and capitalism as a natural order or the noblest way as ayn rand does. i don't

RE: Living in the UK (RE: Jobs FYI)

Funny, you have a higher violent crime rate now. And you got that piece of BS information where? Was it that crackpot UN crime report that came out last month? The one with the BIG disclaimer on the differences in the way police forces report crime? It doesn't change the fact that a violent

RE: Jobs FYI

I do. I'd never want to live anywhere else if the weather was better. -Original Message- From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 December 2002 12:03 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Jobs FYI Yeah but nobody wants to live in the UK. *chuckles quietly* -Gel -Original

RE: Living in the UK (RE: Jobs FYI)

Funny, you have a higher violent crime rate now. Strangely enough, I'd rather be mugged at knife-point than at gun-point - if someone pulls a knife, the chances of you getting killed is a LOT lower than if you're shot Check the murder rate - me, alive, you, dead... I think I'm better off... No?

LOTR presale..

just curious on how many of us have presale ticket orders for lotr? i got mine a few weeks back doing the noon showing instead of the midnight showing.. since i would miss some thing at night.. -paul ~| Archives:

Re: Me as Ayn Rand?

An interesting quiz: Hal Clement (Harry C. Stubbs) A quiet and underrated master of hard science fiction who, among other things, foresaw integrated circuits back in the 1940s. Having met Mr. Stubbs several times at different science fiction conventions, I take it as a real complement. He's a

RE: LOTR presale..

My wife surprised me with tickets for the 6:30 showing on Wednesday... She really doesn't like the series very much so I was doubly shocked that she got the tickets. I'm still trying to wipe the grin off my face. ;-) Can't wait to see the movie!!! Jeff -Original Message- From: Paul

RE: Me as Ayn Rand?

Do you guys see me as being anything like Ayn Rand? No. -Kevin ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=5

RE: Me as Ayn Rand?

What's with Ayn Rand being classified as science fiction though? Anthem and Atlas Shrugged were undeniably science fiction. -Kevin ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription:

RE: IE Toolbars

http://www.spywareinfo.com/articles/lop/ http://www.acesoft.net/lop.com.htm http://www.computing.net/windows2000/wwwboard/forum/39849.html http://www.nastylop.com/ hope this helps! -Patrick -Original Message- From: CF-DEV [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002

RE: Me as Ayn Rand?

Cult leader? WTF Tim Objectivism. I knew a guy who started a chapter. Definitely the cult mentality going on. It was on a college campus and the really funny thing is how much it reminded me of how American Socialist/Communist group meetings must have been. Personally, while I like much of

RE: IE Toolbars

Oh I so much agree with Spywareinfo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/16/02 09:06AM http://www.spywareinfo.com/articles/lop/ http://www.acesoft.net/lop.com.htm http://www.computing.net/windows2000/wwwboard/forum/39849.html http://www.nastylop.com/ hope this helps! -Patrick -Original

Re: Me as Ayn Rand?

Because someone invents Reardon Metal it's scifi? The books main focus is not even the metal... Anthem I didn't read though. -- jon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Monday, December 16, 2002, 8:56:12 AM, you wrote: What's with Ayn Rand being classified as science fiction though? KG Anthem and Atlas

L.Ron Hubbard WAS Re: Me as Ayn Rand?

Sorry for the snips, my mail server is barfing on big emails right now. No flame war necessary. Just a difference of opinion. I haven't read anything from Noam Chomsky, although I found several sites about him and his work, and I assure you I will make an effort to do so this evening.

RE: L.Ron Hubbard WAS Re: Me as Ayn Rand?

I have a longish reply that I wrote, but for some reason my mail server won't let it out. I tried to post it through the web interface but it didn't seem to take either, any suggestions? Tim -Original Message- From: Brendan Avery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 16,

RE: L.Ron Hubbard WAS Re: Me as Ayn Rand?

If you go to the archive it's there now. Not sure if it will go out in the mail or not :) -Original Message- From: Timothy Heald Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 9:31 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: L.Ron Hubbard WAS Re: Me as Ayn Rand? I have a longish reply that I wrote, but for

Re: L.Ron Hubbard WAS Re: Me as Ayn Rand?

Objectivism is all about the individual...not the corporation. I think you are letting todays corporate America slant your view of what Ayn's philosophy was. How long though do you think before this so called dead end actually dies? Even in the very first democracy in Greece, the more money a

RE: Hey - I Wrote that!

You tried contacting the Reg? They seem like decent folks and they would probably correct the issue. === Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Mindseye, Inc Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW :

Kraft Flash..

http://www.krafty.org/flash/ pretty cute little public service message. appropriate for the work place ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription:

RE: Kraft Flash..

That is pretty funny. -Original Message- From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 9:59 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Kraft Flash.. http://www.krafty.org/flash/ pretty cute little public service message. appropriate for the work place

RE: Me as Ayn Rand?

I've not read enough Rand to know. However, I like the fact that I come up as Gregory Benford. He's one of my faves! --Ben Doom Programmer General Lackey Moonbow Software : -Original Message- : From: Judith Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] : Sent: Sunday, December 15,

RE: Living in the UK (RE: Jobs FYI)

For me at least, theres a hell of a lot more sunshine!!! -Original Message- From: Timothy Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 6:06 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Living in the UK (RE: Jobs FYI) Funny, you have a higher violent crime rate now.

RE: Me as Ayn Rand?

Well I think it would more likely be the generator that Galt invented and the sound weapon that the state science institute invented. Also the fact that it took place in the future? Not to sure though. Anthem was Science Fiction. But that was the only thing I have read of hers that I would

RE: Me as Ayn Rand?

No, not because of Reardon Metal. Because the solution to the protagonists' problems is to fly off to a utopian island and use some funky device to steal the electricity from the world so that they can stick it to all those mean nasty people. It's the Doctor Evil death ray. -Kevin -Original

RE: Me as Ayn Rand?

By the way, I seem to be Kurt Vonnegut. Or William Gibson, depending on how I answer certain questions. But more often it's Vonnegut. -Kevin -Original Message- From: Judith Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 10:36 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Me as

RE: Me as Ayn Rand?

Gibson is the man. -Original Message- From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 10:38 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Me as Ayn Rand? By the way, I seem to be Kurt Vonnegut. Or William Gibson, depending on how I answer certain questions. But more

Re: Me as Ayn Rand?

Wow, it got you dead on Tim. Great writer, and a Libertarian :) -- jon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Monday, December 16, 2002, 7:28:11 AM, you wrote: TH Robert A. Heinlein TH Beginning with technological action stories and progressing to epics with religious overtones, this take-no-prisoners

RE: Me as Ayn Rand?

It thinks I am like Frank Herbert ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=5 Your ad could be here. Monies from

Re: Me as Ayn Rand?

Ah, you are correct, my memory failed me again. I never really focused on that part I guess. -- jon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Monday, December 16, 2002, 10:34:57 AM, you wrote: KG No, not because of Reardon Metal. Because the solution to the KG protagonists' problems is to fly off to a utopian

RE: Me as Ayn Rand?

I am Isaac Asimov :-) -Patrick -Original Message- From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 10:47 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Me as Ayn Rand? It thinks I am like Frank Herbert

RE: Living in the UK (RE: Jobs FYI)

Hey, Erika~! :-) A few thoughts on the UK/USA geo-cultural divide Britain seems wonderful to me but I have heard that London is pricey, no? Also I have heard it is very fast-paced there (London) culturally and I find our culture here in Canada already too fast-paced... On the other hand

RE: happy Friday the 13th

Nice looking brew! Maybe you could leverage this into a business? -Patrick -Original Message- From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 10:24 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: happy Friday the 13th an image of the bottle label The File

Using Flash as an DVD Interface..

I watched the Ice Age DVD over the weekend. I couldn't help but think how much the interface for navigating the DVD looked like a Flash movie. Then I thought that Director was designed for interactive media such as this. Does anyone know how they make these interfaces? -- Jeffry

RE: Living in the UK (RE: Jobs FYI)

Here's another thought on the matter, from what I hear Ireland is a pretty happening place to be right now. Some of my family in Dublin are working in tech companies and making pretty good money. M -Original Message- From: Harkins,Patrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday,

RE: Living in the UK (RE: Jobs FYI)

If you don't mind getting wet, Ireland is great. -Original Message- From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 December 2002 17:01 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Living in the UK (RE: Jobs FYI) Here's another thought on the matter, from what I hear Ireland is a pretty

RE: Using Flash as an DVD Interface..

There are a variety of programs to do it. Some years back there was a DVD menu export for Director, and I assume there still is; however, the review I read suggested that it wasn't as well focused for the job as a more specialized tool. I don't know what's popular for pro use these days. Around

RE: happy Friday the 13th

thanks.. i am so board now, i could do anything, considered work. made my 2nd batch yesterday. 5 gallons steam distilled water. 10 pounds of honey, 8 pounds of medium light malt a bit of clove, cinnamon ginger. boiled for 2 hours, added yeast that was started 6 hours earlier... let ferment

RE: Living in the UK (RE: Jobs FYI)

Interesting... I was over in Nor'n Ir'n a few years ago. I visited Belfast and enjoyed it a lot, especially the old part of town near the university. I had a heck of a time finding a really good espresso to feed my addiction but did find one nice spot. I figured there was a good opportunity there

RE: Living in the UK (RE: Jobs FYI)

Like its dry in London? Come on... Admittedly, I have yet to visit but the pictures I get from my family make it look great. Have not seen a picture of what it looks like in the rain. M -Original Message- From: Craig Dudley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002

RE: Living in the UK (RE: Jobs FYI)

Like its dry in London? Come on... Admittedly, I have yet to visit but the pictures I get from my family make it look great. Have not seen a picture of what it looks like in the rain. 2002 has been the driest year in ages - Erika was looking forward to some decent rain, and we've had hardly

RE: Living in the UK (RE: Jobs FYI)

I'm gonna grab a couple of these, as I've seen the East of the US, UK (obviously) and Japan Also I have heard it is very fast-paced there (London) culturally and I find our culture here in Canada already too fast-paced... On the other hand obviously all of England is not London... We live

RE: Living in the UK (RE: Jobs FYI)

That explains it, almost anywhere has to be better than New Jersey :) -Original Message- From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 1:00 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Living in the UK (RE: Jobs FYI) Like its dry in London? Come on...

Nemesis

Has anyone seen the new Trek movie yet? I did yesterday. Slight Spoiler Warning . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I did like the movie but could they rip off Wrath Of Kahn anymore?!? Sheesh.. Thank you, Dan Phillips Express Technologies, Inc. dba HalfPriceHosting, CFXHosting

RE: Living in the UK (RE: Jobs FYI)

Though it's rainy right now, it's actually been quite a dry year according to the record books. In fact, until about a month ago, I was always joking about Where's the rain??? I came to London to see rain, now where is it?! ;) Cheers, Erika

Re: L.Ron Hubbard WAS Re: Me as Ayn Rand?

hey tim-- i'm still working on an appropriate response -- so much work to do today, but you have some good points and i want to continue the discussion flame- free :) :) i do actually agree with a lot of the libertarian philosophy-- most of my friends are voting libertarians, but as an

What was the link to those Flash (?) movies with that little Oriental looking guy?

Does anyone know the link to those flash movies w/ the little oriental looking guy who didn't know who he was? Sites with similar web-based-serial-stories would also work. I had a potential client approach me with a similar idea, but she convinced that it could all be done using nothing

RE: Living in the UK (RE: Jobs FYI)

Thanks for the insights! I'm a big fan of British traditional music, some you might not have even heard of like Nic Jones (English but no longer performing) and Archie Fisher (Scottish). Also one of my all-around favourite musicians is Richard Thompson. I put on an oldies station once in a while

RE: What was the link to those Flash (?) movies with that little Oriental looking guy?

ninjai.com ~~ Stephenie Hamilton Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Professional CFXHosting |-Original Message- |From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 1:55 PM |To: CF-Community |Subject: What was the link to those Flash (?) movies with

RE: Living in the UK (RE: Jobs FYI)

I am reminded of my favorite old Scottish saying: If you can see across the loch, it's about to rain. If you can't, it's already raining. --Ben Doom Programmer General Lackey Moonbow Software : -Original Message- : From: Erika L. Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] :

RE: happy Friday the 13th

I've been thinking of giving it a try. I thought there would be more to it than that, but it sounds pretty straight forward. That seems to be a huge amount of ingredients, is there some specialized equipment needed to boil, or do you do it a bit at a time in a large pot? Also, what do you mean

Smartphone keyboard

Does it make me extra geeky if I go and buy a keyboard for my smartphone so that I can take notes on my palm pilot phone in class? Robert Everland III Web Developer Extraordinaire Dixon Ticonderoga Company http://www.dixonusa.com

Re: Smartphone keyboard

it makes you extra geeky that you have to ask if it makes you extra geeky :) - Original Message - From: Robert Everland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 3:25 PM Subject: Smartphone keyboard Does it make me extra geeky if I go and buy a

RE: Smartphone keyboard

Doing it won't make you extra geeky, but being extra geeky might make you do it. Buying keyboards for phones doesn't make you geeky -- it just lets everyone else know about it. :-) --Ben Doom Programmer General Lackey Moonbow Software : -Original Message- : From: Robert

Re: Nemesis

Monday, December 16, 2002, 2:01:06 PM, you wrote: DP Has anyone seen the new Trek movie yet? I did yesterday. DP Slight Spoiler Warning DP . DP . DP . DP . DP . DP . DP . DP . DP . DP . DP . DP . DP . DP . DP . DP . DP . DP . DP . DP . DP . DP . DP . DP . DP I did like the movie but could they

Re: Living in the UK (RE: Jobs FYI)

Though it's rainy right now, it's actually been quite a dry year according to the record books. In fact, until about a month ago, I was always joking about Where's the rain??? I came to London to see rain, now where is it?! It was here, in anchorage.

Ebay just removed all copies of Studio MX

Ebay just removed all auctions for licenses of Studio MX because of a complaint by the copyright owner. There were 5 open auctions when I looked earlier today. Now there are none. I bid on one of them, so was notified personally of the removal of the auction. I can't help but wonder who

Funny and cute, not something you'd necessary show your boss

http://www.goofyfun.com/cmas/osamareindeer.swf Osama meets Santa http://www.whoohoo.net/operababy/operababy.swf Opera Baby Judith ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: