Re: Presidential debate tonight

2004-09-30 Thread Sam Morris
I admit Bush looked bad when he couldn't find the words and it happened a few times. But when he got the words out he definitely took charge. He really nailed Kerry on the North Korea issue. Kerry claims he can get all the nations to help with Iraq but then wants to bypass the multi-lateral talks

Re: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-09-30 Thread Sam Morris
--- Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sam likes to > trot out comments from Blix but conveniently doesn't > include the later > statements that Blix felt he was perhaps wrong. > Statements prior to > invasion. Same with Russia. Well , Blix never said that until after the war started. He d

Re: The Election and The Economy

2004-09-30 Thread Sam Morris
That's funny. So you don't believe what Bush said but you believe what Woodward claims he said? Even after Powell and Rice said Woodward lied? -sm --- Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When Bush's credibility is being questioned, it's > prudent to look at a > second party's account.

Re: Presidential debate tonight

2004-09-30 Thread Jeffry Houser
I only saw the first hour, but I agree.   When they showed the split screen w/ Kerry on one side and Bush on the other, it Bush always reminded me of that kid at the school event whose parents forced him to be there.  He appeared to be not paying attention.   I was kind of bummed with some of th

RE: Want to Work For Google?

2004-09-30 Thread Jim Davis
I dunno. call me right-brained but the first thing that came to mind was "Irish Twins".  ;^) The puzzle doesn't say that they're the same age ALL THE TIME after all. Jim Davis > An easy example puzzle is: 2 men are the same age, brothers, and have > the same parents, but they're not twins.  How

Re: Presidential debate tonight

2004-09-30 Thread Don
You're a wise man, your observation is clear and analysis cool (another recent posting of yours is an echo). Maybe a great tragedy which looms ahead is that we Americans seem too human. We may elect our leader as picking a spouse because "I like her or I like him" instead of doing that like selecti

Re: ATLANTA, GA

2004-09-30 Thread Don
Don't know yet. >Aside from the calculator Larry gave you - I love this area! I think >that it's got a LOT to offer and housing costs (outside the city center >of course) are pretty reasonable! > >Thinking about moving here? > >Cheers, >Erika >-- [T

Re: Presidential debate tonight

2004-09-30 Thread Gruss Gott
Most people will take out what they brought in but my opinion is: * Bush had a theological, thematic approach. * Kerry had an informed, professorial approach. The best gaff though, off of the top of my head, was when Bush did a little vignette about a war widow he visited and said something like

RE: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-09-30 Thread Andy Ousterhout
-Original Message-   From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]     Hindsight.  Everyone thought that he had them back then.  A prudent person   would have to think he had them based on the evidence and his actions at the   time.  From what I've read, he may have even thought he had them

RE: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Ok...   -Original Message-   From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 6:57 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq   Bush. Saw the clip. "That's just... um... guessing."   Dana   - Original Message -   From:

Re: Presidential debate tonight

2004-09-30 Thread Kevin Graeme
Well I watched it and IMO, Kerry totally owned! Kerry spent his time clearly and eloquently covering the issues with specific comments, while Bush stuttered his way through mostly simpering misguided character attacks and a touchy-feely belief that a free Iraq will magically bring peace. Even whe

RE: ATLANTA, GA

2004-09-30 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
Aside from the calculator Larry gave you - I love this area! I think that it's got a LOT to offer and housing costs (outside the city center of course) are pretty reasonable! Thinking about moving here? Cheers, Erika -- >>| -Original Message--

Re: family law

2004-09-30 Thread dana tierney
hey Isaac Here's a different perspective. Yeah, it may well be biased against men :) It does assume that the reader is a woman. But, if you are genuinely interested in a look at the other side, and I believe you are, then it may be a place to start. http://www.nowldef.org/html/pub/kits/divplan/di

Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread dana tierney
yeah, like that nasty election that's dividing the nation :) - Original Message - From: Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:44:58 -0400 Subject: Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anything that divides the country helps the en

Re: The Election and The Economy

2004-09-30 Thread dana tierney
Let's put it this way -- Woodward has been around since Watergate and has a good reputation for fairness and integrity. Even Bush would seem to agree, since Plan of Attack is partially based on extensive interviews with the president. Dana - Original Message - From: Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL P

Re: family law

2004-09-30 Thread dana tierney
you know what? I agree with every bit of this, and I have sole custody of my kids. Perhaps this is a measure of just how broken the system is that both of us, on different sides of such an intimately insulting system, feel so strongly that it is absolutely and utterly broken. Dana - Original

Re: The Election and The Economy

2004-09-30 Thread Kevin Graeme
On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 14:48:05 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I posted President Bush's interview where he explains > why we went to war. > > You ignore that and rely on what Woodward says? When Bush's credibility is being questioned, it's prudent to look at a second party's

Re: family law

2004-09-30 Thread dana tierney
let me help you out. Prosecutor in the OJ Simpson case. Dana - Original Message - From: S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:39:18 -0400 Subject: Re: family law To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks for the name -- I'll have to look that up. > you have to

Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread Kevin Graeme
Specious logic and blatant jingoism. -Kevin On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:44:58 -0400, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anything that divides the country helps the enemy. There is a difference between informing people about what is going on and leaking secret intelligence reports about what may

Re: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-09-30 Thread Kevin Graeme
On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:24:18 -0500, Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >   Hindsight.  Everyone thought that he had them back then. Please stop saying that. I didn't think he had them, and that was based on information from multiple weapon's inspectors. Sam likes to trot out comments fro

Re: family law

2004-09-30 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
Thanks for the name -- I'll have to look that up. > you have to have been there. See, once they get a job they > are bad > mommies. Then you can sue for custody. See Marcia Clark. > Dana > - Original Message - > From: S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:23:13

Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread Robert Munn
Anything that divides the country helps the enemy. There is a difference between informing people about what is going on and leaking secret intelligence reports about what may happen. > Do the leaks really help the enemy in any tangible way? Perhaps > instead they help the American people to know

Re: family law

2004-09-30 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
I'm just happy to see it receiving attention in mainstream media... whether the proposed revision would be better or worse is subject to debate -- what we have is seriously broken, and I have no doubt that it will be a very long time before we have any set of laws that work well in this area -- if

Re: family law

2004-09-30 Thread dana tierney
you have to have been there. See, once they get a job they are bad mommies. Then you can sue for custody. See Marcia Clark. Dana - Original Message - From: S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:23:13 -0400 Subject: Re: family law To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: family law

2004-09-30 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
> oh yeah, good idea. Keep em barefoot and pregnant. not sure how making them get a job would do that... s. isaac dealey 954.927.5117 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=44477&DE=1 h

Re: family law

2004-09-30 Thread dana tierney
I've apologized off-list to Isaac for this remark. The apology was my idea, not his, by the way. However, in a less heated tone, I'd like to point out that the proposed laws would merely replace one set of flawed laws with another set of flawed laws, even more repressive to women. Personally I thi

Re: ATLANTA, GA

2004-09-30 Thread Larry C. Lyons
any time. larry On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 19:23:10 -0400, Don Chunshen Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks. > > > try this cost of living calculator. > > http://www.homefair.com/homefair/calc/salcalc.html > > > > larry > > > > > > On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 15:41:08 -0400, Don Chunshen Li > > <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: The Election and The Economy

2004-09-30 Thread dana tierney
the weekly standard again. I don't have time to waste checking their reporting again. Been there too many times already. Always been full of it, conclusion: they are probably still at least mostly full of it. - Original Message - From: Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004

Re: The Election and The Economy

2004-09-30 Thread Sam Morris
--- Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, but according to Mr. Bush there has never been > ANY evidence > linking Al Queda to Iraq.  He's said this plainly. > Therefore invading > Iraq disrupted "them", but not Al Queda. > I'll believe anything that has proof - there is > none, zero, zip,

Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread dana tierney
Bush. Saw the clip. "That's just... um... guessing." Dana - Original Message - From: Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:05:14 -0500 Subject: RE: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Quote from who? -Original Message-

Re: Want to Work For Google?

2004-09-30 Thread Gruss Gott
- Original Message - From: Won Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:36:39 -0400 Subject: Re: Want to Work For Google? To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Gruss, you still haven't shared why and how you have such a wealth of info about Wall St. My wife and I know lots of

Re: family law

2004-09-30 Thread dana tierney
oh yeah, good idea. Keep em barefoot and pregnant. Dana - Original Message - From: S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 19:31:25 -0400 Subject: family law To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I don't have high hopes myself, but some or all of this would be good news

Re: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-09-30 Thread dana tierney
I'm not really back. But. I suggest that you are giving the benefit of way too much doubt to a man who is lying to you :)   Hindsight.  Everyone thought that he had them back then.  A prudent person would have to think he had them based on the evidence and his actions at the time.  From what I've

family law

2004-09-30 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
I don't have high hopes myself, but some or all of this would be good news. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,133875,00.html s. isaac dealey 954.927.5117 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.sys-con.com/story

RE: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-09-30 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Welcome back.  I suggest that you are applying today's perspective to yesterday's problem.   -Original Message-   From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 4:48 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: Re: The politicization of the Iraq War   (deep breath)

Re: ATLANTA, GA

2004-09-30 Thread Don
Thanks. > try this cost of living calculator. > http://www.homefair.com/homefair/calc/salcalc.html > > larry > > > On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 15:41:08 -0400, Don Chunshen Li > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Any one from that region?  What's the living expenses look like > compared to that of Washingt

Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread William Bowen
El Presidente Bush > Quote from who? >> And yes, that is a quote. Though later he did say that he had misdispronounciated himself. -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscriptio

RE: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Quote from who? -Original Message- From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 3:53 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq   he would? Seems to me that positive reports were read, negative ones   dismissed as "just guessing

RE: Proof God is a Democrat?

2004-09-30 Thread Ian Skinner
He has a point though - their treatment of the Annie Jacobson claim as "false" is completely without merit unless you buy into what the government says, and even then it doesn't make it false. ... The Snopes page claims that Fed Air Marshals "checked the lavs" after each suspect had used it.  SO?

RE: Proof God is a Democrat?

2004-09-30 Thread Ian Skinner
God i still hate snopes. Something about them just rubs me the wrong way. "Hi we're snopes! We want to be the end all be all for helping people figure out if something is a myth." Then you get the people who whenever they read something run right to snopes to check if god err snopes says its unt

Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread dana tierney
no, just sticking my head in.  Killing a little time before a class. Probably not fair to engage in political debate when I may not be around to read the replies for several days, but I can't help myself :) - Original Message - From: Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 16

Re: The Election and The Economy

2004-09-30 Thread dana tierney
Sorry, but she was a state employee and he was the governor of the state. I totally agree that the hysteria regarding Clinton's sex life was very overdone, but let's admit that he IS a sleaze and there is at least a possibility that he engaged in sexual harassment Dana On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 00:31

Re: The Election and The Economy

2004-09-30 Thread dana tierney
and in addition yu can tax a tax deduction for doing so, correct? - Original Message - From: Won Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 08:49:48 -0400 Subject: Re: The Election and The Economy To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 17:29 9/28/2004 -0600, you wrote: >Question, do

Re: Dana Tierney - Re: disappearing for a while

2004-09-30 Thread dana tierney
man, let me tell you I was up in a Native American neighborhood yesterday and jaw-dropping numbers don't plan to vote. Dana - Original Message - From: Jim Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 17:21:29 -0500 Subject: Dana Tierney - Re: disappearing for a while To: CF-C

Re: disappearing for a while

2004-09-30 Thread dana tierney
trust Sam to dig that up out of the local Bush apologist rag :) Yepper. I plan to put in gajillions of fraudulent registrations. That's why one of the registrations I took yesterday will have have to be thrown out before making it to the county clerks office... they have been on for months now ab

Re: The politicization of the Iraq War

2004-09-30 Thread dana tierney
(deep breath) I guess I have a few minutes. 1. As it turns out the US was not threatened. One could argue that Bush perhaps thought it was. To which I would reply, given the reports dismissed as "just guessing" do you really think he exercised due diligence in finding out? 2. Is oil a vital US

Re: The Election and The Economy

2004-09-30 Thread Sam Morris
> The whole "we invaded Iraq because of > WMD/Terrorism/atrocities/cheap > beer" argument is pointless.  Mr. Bush has already > stated, immediately > after the war, the main reason that he invaded Iraq > was because he > thought it was the US's duty to liberate people. > This is documented > by Mr

Re: florida people

2004-09-30 Thread dana tierney
glad you are ok :) - Original Message - From: Marwan Saidi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:17:34 -0400 Subject: Re: florida people To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Made it through ok... lost a few shingles but that's it. The coast took a beating though... I really feel

Re: florida people

2004-09-30 Thread dana tierney
you always were dead :) Glad you are ok :) - Original Message - From: Bill Wheatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 08:07:01 -0400 Subject: Re: florida people To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> No i'm dead. - Original Message - From: dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Want to Work For Google?

2004-09-30 Thread Won Lee
At 16:19 9/30/2004 -0500, you wrote: >Maybe you guys hear a lot about I-Bankers (International Bankers?), >but they are outside of my ken, so I don't think they're THAT big of a >flaming pile of trend poo I Bankers = investment bankers or the guys (and most of them are men) who work at least 90 h

Re: Presidential debate tonight

2004-09-30 Thread Kevin Graeme
We're having a serious debate here about whether to watch the debates or go see Shaun of the Dead. It's a tossup over which will be more funny and revolting. -Kevin On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:17:13 -0400, Howie Hamlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For those of us watching: > > http://www.planetsocks

Re: Want to Work For Google?

2004-09-30 Thread Kevin Graeme
Maybe you guys hear a lot about I-Bankers (International Bankers?), but they are outside of my ken, so I don't think they're THAT big of a flaming pile of trend poo -Kevin. On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 15:57:14 -0500, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, I'd say you still hear about them. > > Fo

Presidential debate tonight

2004-09-30 Thread Howie Hamlin
For those of us watching: http://www.planetsocks.com/bingo.asp [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

Re: Woo hoo! Judge blocks part of Patriot Act

2004-09-30 Thread dana tierney
yeah :) (I know I just agreed with Bill. Believe me, it scares me too.) Dana - Original Message - From: Bill Wheatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 10:41:16 -0400 Subject: Re: Woo hoo! Judge blocks part of Patriot Act To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yea chipping away a

Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread Gruss Gott
Hey Dana, yup.  I thought you were leaving for a bit ... are you back? - Original Message - From: dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 14:54:51 -0600 Subject: Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gruss, You are referring to Plan

Re: Want to Work For Google?

2004-09-30 Thread Gruss Gott
Well, I'd say you still hear about them. For example, Jeffery Skilling of Enron infame was a McKinsey consultant. But your right, the I-Bankers are always in the news now.  I think because they're closest to the money and therefore most likely to be corrupt; thus their news worthyness. Also, the

Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread dana tierney
you are equating Bush's political interests with the best interest of the country. - Original Message - From: Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:27:21 -0400 Subject: Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The real question to ask

Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread dana tierney
Gruss, You are referring to Plan of Attack, correct? - Original Message - From: Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:52:04 -0500 Subject: RE: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Guss, Thanks for this post.  Very interesting.  N

Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread dana tierney
he would? Seems to me that positive reports were read, negative ones dismissed as "just guessing". And yes, that is a quote. - Original Message - From: Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 08:53:02 -0500 Subject: RE: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq To: CF-Community

RE: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Always a concern.  Frankly, this filtering is a management nightmare. Andy   -Original Message-   From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 3:34 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq   Andy Ousterhout wrote:   

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Sam Morris
I've grown used to the Larry insults, to a point where I expect them. -sm --- Chris Stoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > > I'm not getting into a pissing contest with you. > if you go for > > personal  insults that's your thing. > > > And it very well might be my thing.

Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Andy Ousterhout wrote: > Come-on folks, do really believe that the only reports created and sent to > Bush positively supported the war? No. But I am not so sure about the ones that actually passed through the filters and reached his desk. Jochem [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription

Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Robert Munn wrote: > The real question to ask here is who in the CIA leaked these > documents? There is a faction in the CIA that clearly wants the > President to fail I would describe it as 'protect their own position'. The people who wrote that report are intelligence professionals, and when B

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread William Bowen
But barring giving each respondent an IQ test, it seems a fairly good litmus... -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations

Re: The Election and The Economy

2004-09-30 Thread Gruss Gott
Hi Deanna, I used to visit Duluth which is a northern MN town at the western tip of lake superior.  We'd drive over to WI at about Midnight as MN bar close was at 1am. We get an outdoor picnic table at a bar (Schultz's) that was at the bottom of the bridge.  You'd snuggle in and watch the drunks

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Jim Campbell
Equating a college graduate with intelligence isn't always the best way to go.  I don't have a degree and I are very the smart yes.  Now, where did I put my lottery tickets? - Jim Jerry Johnson wrote: >Not really, Larry. > >The percentages might be higher with Daily Show viewers, but what abou

Re: Want to Work For Google?

2004-09-30 Thread Won Lee
At 15:04 9/30/2004 -0500, you wrote: >You're in!!  Apply to McKinsey or Bain immediately. I remember in the early to mid 80s consultants were hot shots.  Now, well you barely here about them.  You just hear about the I-Bankers. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscri

Re: Want to Work For Google?

2004-09-30 Thread Gruss Gott
You're in!!  Apply to McKinsey or Bain immediately. On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 12:14:27 -0400, Ben Doom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > An easy example puzzle is: 2 men are the same age, brothers, and have >  > the same parents, but they're not twins.  How can this be? >   >  2 of triplets, quadruplets, e

Re: The Election and The Economy

2004-09-30 Thread Deanna Schneider
On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 14:13:08 -0500, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > There's large caravans of "people and things" that travel into > Wisconsin every night too, but that doesn't mean they contain WMD. In > this case it's drunks.  Who knows, maybe the bars close later Syria > than in Iraq? Wait -

Re: ATLANTA, GA

2004-09-30 Thread Larry C. Lyons
try this cost of living calculator. http://www.homefair.com/homefair/calc/salcalc.html larry On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 15:41:08 -0400, Don Chunshen Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any one from that region?  What's the living expenses look like compared to that of Washington, DC? > > TIA. > > [Todays

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Chris Stoner
Larry C. Lyons wrote: > I'm not getting into a pissing contest with you. if you go for > personal  insults that's your thing. > And it very well might be my thing.  I'm just trying to point out that based on your declaration of Sam's inability to deal with declarative statements, it's apparently

ATLANTA, GA

2004-09-30 Thread Don
Any one from that region?  What's the living expenses look like compared to that of Washington, DC? TIA. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Gruss Gott
ROTFL! - Original Message - From: Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 12:26:37 -0500 Subject: Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You're right. It appears that a self-selecting group of younger, intelligent people watch Stewart while a

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I'm not getting into a pissing contest with you. if you go for personal  insults that's your thing. On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 15:01:26 -0400, Chris Stoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > pom·pous  adj.  Characterized by excessive self-esteem or exaggerated > dignity; > > I would characterize your statemen

Re: The Election and The Economy

2004-09-30 Thread Gruss Gott
> - Original Message - > From: Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >  "Two days before the war [SNIP] large > caravans of people and things, including some of the > top 55 [most wanted] Iraqis, going to Syria," Gen. > DeLong explained. > According to you he's definitely lying because he > d

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Chris Stoner
pom·pous  adj.  Characterized by excessive self-esteem or exaggerated dignity; I would characterize your statement about Sam's supossed 'problem(s) with declarative sentances' as being quite pompous.  Thats not an insult, its what it was (IMO).  Is it ok for you to speak (write) in an insultin

Re: The Election and The Economy

2004-09-30 Thread Marlon Moyer
What in the hell did we go into Iraq for if we knew this 2 days before!!! ?   On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:52:13 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Two days before the war, on March 17 [2003], we saw > through multiple intelligence channels - both human > intelligence and technica

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I would suggest that being obnoxious is not the way to go either. Quit with the insults. On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 14:07:48 -0400, Chris Stoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually it doesn't.  This declarative sentence states that a higher > ratio of Stewart listeners completed four years of college w

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Larry C. Lyons
No its a matter of proportions. 8 of 10 vs 6 of 10. A simple test of proportions will return a statistically significant chi square showing that the difference in proportions is not likely due to chance. larry On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:01:13 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The N

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Sam Morris
--- William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I hope you're not one of the 20% of Daily show > viewers > > that thinks it's a real news show. > > Neither am I one of the percent of O'Reilly viewers > that believes his > is a news show too... ;-) > > Where did the 20% figure come from? I went

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Ray Champagne
But my wife listens to me spout off about political stuff every night (and sometimes I am even humorous!).  That means that I could claim 100% of my viewing audience has a 4 year college degree.  So percentages really don't matter... Ray At 02:11 PM 9/30/2004, you wrote: >Even if you take thos

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread William Bowen
Even if you take those numbers, which I assume are for example only, you still have a higher percentage of total viewership with 4 years of college watching the Daily Show. -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher [Todays T

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Jerry Johnson
Not really, Larry. The percentages might be higher with Daily Show viewers, but what about the actual people totals. If the Factor's pop is larger, he may have more college grads total than the Daily Show has. Jerry Johnson >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/30/04 01:52PM >>> Are you sure about that? You

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Chris Stoner
Actually it doesn't.  This declarative sentence states that a higher ratio of Stewart listeners completed four years of college which does not mean the same thing as 'there are more four year graduates viewing Stewarts show'.  There is not enough evidence in this particular sentence to determin

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Sam Morris
The Nielson report has no details. The way I read this is: If Stewart has 40,000 viewers and 80% have four year degrees and O'Reilly has 2 million viewers and 60% have four year degrees than viewers of the Daily show are more likely to have four year degrees. Since I don't have the details I was

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread William Bowen
> I hope you're not one of the 20% of Daily show viewers > that thinks it's a real news show. Neither am I one of the percent of O'Reilly viewers that believes his is a news show too... ;-) Where did the 20% figure come from? I went back and re-read the article and didn't see that. Oddly enough

Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread Larry C. Lyons
It depends on who is the enemy.Take the recent cases of CIA operatives being outed by administration personnel. That was intended to weaken a Democratic position. There may be others who are pissed at the current administration and find it appropriate to leak damaging information. This sort of thin

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Are you sure about that? You seem to  have a problem with declarative sentances. "Viewers of Jon Stewart's show are more likely to have completed four years of college than people who watch "The O'Reilly Factor," according to Nielsen Media Research." More likely means that there are more viewers

Re: Foie Gras - "a major victory for the ducks and geese."

2004-09-30 Thread William Bowen
Still though, very tasty. <> /me wishes I could get some foie gras not made of duck in this country... > it looks like dog vomit I always thought it looked more like prechewed steak, but hey, everybody has their own interpretation I suppose. :-) -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would

Re: Furniture and Decorating style question

2004-09-30 Thread Robert Munn
I like Japanese style but like Kevin I can't maintain the level of organization needed for it. I also like totally modern whacky styles- odd shaped purple sofas, lime green round coffee tables- stuff you find in funky furniture shops on Melrose in L.A. Or I could go for the modern minimalist feel,

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread William Bowen
> If you're  going to put it that way... > I bet there are more people with four year degrees > that watch O'Reilly than Stewart. But you see that is not what the data shows, which was the point of the article. you did read the article, no? The data points out that people with four years of coll

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Sam Morris
--- William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And who > says having four years of college makes you less > likely to partake in the occasional blunt? > > It doesn't, but... > Four years of college does tend to make one more > educated, better > read, better suited to discern logical arguments,

Re: Foie Gras - "a major victory for the ducks and geese."

2004-09-30 Thread Gruss Gott
it looks like dog vomit - Original Message - From: William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:54:51 -0700 Subject: Re: Foie Gras - "a major victory for the ducks and geese." To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It's quite tasty, actually, what's not to get? mm... ta

Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread Won Lee
At 12:30 9/30/2004 -0500, you wrote: >Do the leaks really help the enemy in any tangible way? Perhaps >instead they help the American people to know what is going on and to >better decide their leadership. I think intelligence leaks may help the enemy.  Just like leaving your door unlocked may fa

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Sam Morris
If you're  going to put it that way... I bet there are more people with four year degrees that watch O'Reilly than Stewart. It's the fact that O'Reilly is so successful he gets a larger variety. Are you saying that if you don't have a four year degree your an idiot? -sm --- Kevin Graeme <[EMAI

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread William Bowen
Also lets look at the size of the audiences? What, O'Reilly's audience is bigger, so naturally we should expect it to be less educated? And who says having four years of college makes you less likely to partake in the occasional blunt? It doesn't, but... Four years of college does tend to make

Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread Kevin Graeme
Do the leaks really help the enemy in any tangible way? Perhaps instead they help the American people to know what is going on and to better decide their leadership. -Kevin On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:27:21 -0400, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The real question to ask here is who in the CIA

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Kevin Graeme
You're right. It appears that a self-selecting group of younger, intelligent people watch Stewart while a great number of idiots of all ages flock to O'Reilly! ;-p -Kevin On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 10:14:48 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Also lets look at the size of the audiences

Re: CIA warned Bush not to invade Iraq

2004-09-30 Thread Robert Munn
The real question to ask here is who in the CIA leaked these documents? There is a faction in the CIA that clearly wants the President to fail and is actively trying to undermine the Administration in it's efforts in Iraq. This is shameful and possibly criminal behavior and the people responsible f

Re: Some interesting recent stats about Canadian homicide rates

2004-09-30 Thread Larry C. Lyons
One word Hockey. Americans got their butt kicked in the World Cup recently. larry On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 10:08:07 -0500, Marlon Moyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Silly Canadiansthink you can best the U.S. in homicide rates. > That shows you, were a full 3.96 pts higher than you Canadians.  Neve

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