Re: MacBook Pro

2007-08-22 Thread Dave l
The new models come with 2gbs of ram already so not sure why they are quoting you for more than that. I think he was saying adding another 2gbs to make it 4gb total which is expensive because you need 2x2gb sticks and those arent cheap. 2gb is fine, use the other $700 for an iphone, they are the

Re: MacBook Pro

2007-08-22 Thread Sean Corfield
On 8/22/07, Casey Dougall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I priced out each side by side, Apple Power Book 17 inch and a Dell Vostro, > with the same components and saved $1000 by not running OSX. *sigh* Here we go again... You are not comparing like with like. As Zaphod points out, Apple design/co

Re: ok everybody whip 'em out

2007-08-22 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
>of course, now everyone else needs to break out the pics. kids, >cousins, nieces, nephews, dogs, cats, fish, ferrets... whatever ya >got. let's see :) Here's a scrapbook page I did in Photoshop recently using my favorite photo of Taz: http://tinyurl.com/36jor7 ~

Re: ok everybody whip 'em out

2007-08-22 Thread Charlie Griefer
On 8/22/07, C. Hatton Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > heh. i didn't do flickr because of any of the "social networking" > > aspects. just needed a place to host photos and it fit the bill: > > > > 1) unlimited storage (for a modest fee) > > 2) ability for family/friends to view photos wit

Re: HTML vs. XHTML

2007-08-22 Thread Rick Root
table based layouts can be XHTML compliant. The comparison of table based layouts to CSS based layouts isn't really relevant here. Rick ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the

Re: ok everybody whip 'em out

2007-08-22 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> heh. i didn't do flickr because of any of the "social networking" > aspects. just needed a place to host photos and it fit the bill: > > 1) unlimited storage (for a modest fee) > 2) ability for family/friends to view photos without signing in (i hate that) > 3) ability to order prints and pick

RE: ok everybody whip 'em out

2007-08-22 Thread Shawna Hampton
Boy howdy, you'd better freakin' believe it ... Actually, the basement is an unfinished walkout and we plan to add a 5th bedroom, third bath, and our super-duper completely geeked out entertainment room. So most of the heavy-duty wiring will be needed in an area that will be completed after the fa

Re: MacBook Pro

2007-08-22 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
>From my experience, I'm not a big fan of Dell. The reason why we standardized on Thinkpads at work was because of all the problems we had with Dell laptops. From flimsy plastic hinges on the lcd's to the keyboards going out, to flaky drives, we just never had good luck with Dell's..and we tr

Re: A US war with Iran would plunge world into poverty.

2007-08-22 Thread Robert Munn
whoops, i didn't mean to imply that. we are on a collision course with them, i wonder whether the rest of the world will get behind us and put pressure on iran to play nice. one might think the russians and chinese would be more apt to take bush seriously this time around when he says he isn't goi

Re: A US war with Iran would plunge world into poverty.

2007-08-22 Thread Robert Munn
judging by the general state of their economy, they have no surplus. freezing their foreign assets would effectively cut them off from any sources of currency. On 8/22/07, Vivec wrote: > > How much surplus does the economy of Iran have currently? > >

Re: HTML vs. XHTML

2007-08-22 Thread Jerry Johnson
by a more exacting and demanding dtd, the XHTML version does not have to handle as many permutations of tags. Which will speed rendering, since the data is by definition better, and possibly the parsing (if they use different parse engines for each dtd) lower case vs mixed case parameters all in

Re: MacBook Pro

2007-08-22 Thread Casey Dougall
On 8/22/07, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I talked w/the apple sales rep today and when I balked at the price of > the 2 gig upgrade ($700), he said that he'd just get some third party > mem for a lot less :) I priced out each side by side, Apple Power Book 17 inch and a Dell

Re: HTML vs. XHTML

2007-08-22 Thread Charlie Griefer
On 8/22/07, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.twoninemedia.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/4/19/TabledLayoutsvsCSSLayouts > > from the blog: > The CSS-based layout was 33% FASTER than the table-based layout on a T1 > connection, and 59% FASTER on a 56K connection. > > The layout in thi

Re: HTML vs. XHTML

2007-08-22 Thread Larry Lyons
> On 8/22/07, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >so what is xhtml? > > >why should i use it? > > >what is needed to use it? > > > > Here's a good one, XHTML with a CSS layout loads 3 - 5 times faster > than an HTML layout. > > I would think that's primarily due to the introduction of the

Re: Computers Merit Badge

2007-08-22 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
I helped teach this merit badge back in November and was amazed that the scouts that I was teaching had problems with the simple tasks required by the badge. Heck most of them had spelling issues and only a few actually knew how to type. The one thing they did know was how to get on their favorit

Re: MacBook Pro

2007-08-22 Thread Larry Lyons
>I talked w/the apple sales rep today and when I balked at the price of >the 2 gig upgrade ($700), he said that he'd just get some third party >mem for a lot less :) > The RAM is easy to put in. For software, look at either iWork or NeoOffice for M$Office compatibility; If you need a java appli

RE: ok everybody whip 'em out

2007-08-22 Thread Scott Stewart
MacGregor http://www.dogster.com/dogs/311978 Finnegan http://www.dogster.com/dogs/391042 Kenzie http://www.catster.com/cats/312272 Kai http://www.catster.com/cats/312295 Tasha http://www.catster.com/cats/116685 Gizmo http://www.catster.com/cats/116687 Fred Weasel(y) http://www.flickr.com/phot

Re: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
One of the biggest reasons that I detest the Cowboys is because of things the owner does like saying yesterday that "After he (vick) gets out of jail, he might pursue recruiting him" Jerry Jones disgusts me. On 8/22/07, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/22/07, Mary Jo Sminkey <[E

Re: ok everybody whip 'em out

2007-08-22 Thread Erika L. Walker
Speaking of the house - I don't suppose you are having it wired for sound, network, cable, alarm and everything else you can possibly afford that would go in the walls before they put drywall up? Enough electrical outlets, especially where you dont think you'd want one, eventually you do, and wire

Re: ok everybody whip 'em out

2007-08-22 Thread Erika L. Walker
flickr is the nuts. love it. On 8/22/07, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > heh. i didn't do flickr because of any of the "social networking" > aspects. just needed a place to host photos and it fit the bill: > > 1) unlimited storage (for a modest fee) > >

Re: MacBook Pro

2007-08-22 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
I talked w/the apple sales rep today and when I balked at the price of the 2 gig upgrade ($700), he said that he'd just get some third party mem for a lot less :) On 8/22/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Casey wrote: > > $2000, good luck. > > > > You might be able to do it at macmal

Re: MacBook Pro

2007-08-22 Thread Gruss Gott
> Casey wrote: > $2000, good luck. > You might be able to do it at macmall.com. And, yeah, max out the ram and wait until oct when the new software comes out - they may update the line by then too. Here's how to tell: http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#MacBook_Pro ~~

Re: Bush Administration wants to limit health care coverage for children

2007-08-22 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dana wrote: > Here's what the New England Journal of Medicine thinks > No, it's what Dr. Hacker, a professor of political science at Yale University, thinks. And his mistake is this line: "the best step may be to require employers either to provide their workers with good private coverage"

Re: MacBook Pro

2007-08-22 Thread Casey Dougall
> Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > Today, I got a MacBook Pro purchased approved. I'm supposed to keep > > it around $2k so it looks like I'll be getting the 15 inch screen. It > > looks really easy to select one, but is there something I may be > > overlooking? Are there some must have peripherals

Re: A US war with Iran would plunge world into poverty.

2007-08-22 Thread Vivec
How much surplus does the economy of Iran have currently? On 8/22/07, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As for what would happen in the event of a war between the U.S. and Iran, > the country worst hit by the war would be Iran itself. Oil & gas account for > three-quarters of their exports

RE: A US war with Iran would plunge world into poverty.

2007-08-22 Thread Loathe
I didn't say it was a bad idea, I could just see it happening. I think we should invade Iran though, they are actively killing Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan. That's good enough for me. > -Original Message- > From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 20

Re: A US war with Iran would plunge world into poverty.

2007-08-22 Thread Robert Munn
Clearly we are provoking them with this talk of labeling the Revolutionary Guards as a terrorist organization, but so what? They are, in effect, a terrorist organization. They are supplying weapons and training for insurgents in Iraq to carry out terrorist attacks against US troops and Iraqi civili

Re: Bush Administration wants to limit health care coverage for children

2007-08-22 Thread Dana
Here's what the New England Journal of Medicine thinks http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/357/8/733?query=TOC On 8/21/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > See, but we don't all agree it's the obvious decision. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Casey Dougall [mailto:[EMAIL PR

Re: ok everybody whip 'em out

2007-08-22 Thread Paul Ihrig
cute kid.. i was about to get the yard stick out again, but then i read the post. random pics http://picasaweb.google.com/pihrig ~| ColdFusion 8 - Build next generation apps today, with easy PDF and Ajax features - download now ht

Re: ok everybody whip 'em out

2007-08-22 Thread Charlie Griefer
heh. i didn't do flickr because of any of the "social networking" aspects. just needed a place to host photos and it fit the bill: 1) unlimited storage (for a modest fee) 2) ability for family/friends to view photos without signing in (i hate that) 3) ability to order prints and pick up at targe

Re: MacBook Pro

2007-08-22 Thread Ben Doom
Absolutely max out the RAM. I'm going to guess that a copy of Parallels is in your future. Other than that, I'll leave it to the MacHeads. --BenD Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > Today, I got a MacBook Pro purchased approved. I'm supposed to keep > it around $2k so it looks like I'll be getting the

Re: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Jerry Johnson
I just read this: R.L. White, president of the Atlanta chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, said he didn't understand the uproar over dogfighting, when hunting deer and other animals is perfectly acceptable. Again, it seems to be less of a race issue, than a

Re: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
>You know the hard part of all of this is trying to explain MV actions to >my 7 year old that looked up to him as one of the "gods of football". I can only imagine! I am a VA tech alumnus and still remember his days there, best years *ever* for our football team, and have followed him ever since

RE: ok everybody whip 'em out

2007-08-22 Thread Shawna Hampton
Okay, I just got into Flickr myself (no, I don't have a MySpace page either -- sue me) so I could post pics of our house as it's being built ... Now I can't stop!! FLICKR RULES!! Anyway -- here are the "kids" -- Nia is my dog, a Shiba Inu http://www.flickr.com/photos/derrickandshawna/sets/721576

Re: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Chris Martin
You know the hard part of all of this is trying to explain MV actions to my 7 year old that looked up to him as one of the "gods of football". Chris Martin Mary Jo Sminkey wrote: >> Was just saying that teams are in the business of winning, and for the >> most part, will put whoever on the fi

ok everybody whip 'em out

2007-08-22 Thread Charlie Griefer
so my wife took the BEST pic of our boy the other day. i have to share. http://flickr.com/photos/cgriefer/1188578531/ of course, now everyone else needs to break out the pics. kids, cousins, nieces, nephews, dogs, cats, fish, ferrets... whatever ya got. let's see :) -- Charlie Griefer =

MacBook Pro

2007-08-22 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
Today, I got a MacBook Pro purchased approved. I'm supposed to keep it around $2k so it looks like I'll be getting the 15 inch screen. It looks really easy to select one, but is there something I may be overlooking? Are there some must have peripherals that I should get while the getting is stil

Re: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Tony
best part is... vick was CLOSE to washed up, with a team that forgot how to play him and a fan base that was sick of losing. so, im not sure he is going to get another chance. tw On 8/22/07, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/22/07, Mary Jo Sminkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >

Re: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Crow T. Robot
Charlie Wrote: > ...versus the chances that Vick might give the team to win. LOL, considering how well the Falcons did with him at the helm, those chances may be slim. He was exciting to watch, but really, wasn't as effective as he was made out to be when coming out of VT. Tuck in the FUCKING

Re: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Charlie Griefer
On 8/22/07, Mary Jo Sminkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Was just saying that teams are in the business of winning, and for the > >most part, will put whoever on the field they think will assist in > >that goal. > > Ah, but they are also in the business of making money...and there's a big > quest

RE: cool robotic AFV

2007-08-22 Thread Bruce Sorge
Here here. Getting hit by IED's sucks. Let the robot die. Bruce -Original Message- From: Loathe Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:34 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: cool robotic AFV You haven't had to drive in Iraq or Afghanistan. ~~

Re: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Tony
it aint a black thing for me. its a stupid thing for me. the NAACP makes it a BLACK thing. as they do with EVERYTHING they get involved in. and the minute they get involved in ANYTHING i get to my WHITE corner and huddle with my WHITE friends to make sure my WHITE ass is as protected as their BLA

RE: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Loathe
Whites haven't been free in the US forever. Indentured servitude, and even true white slavery did exist in the US. Also, 40 years? In 1967? Really? > -Original Message- > From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 4:04 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re:

RE: cool robotic AFV

2007-08-22 Thread Loathe
You haven't had to drive in Iraq or Afghanistan. > -Original Message- > From: William Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:14 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: cool robotic AFV > > sorry, I was looking at the video and seeing nothing that wasn't > alread

Re: W00t! :: Got a job!

2007-08-22 Thread Dana
that *is* a great site. On 8/21/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sweet man, grats. > > They have a great site. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 11:46 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: W00t! :: Got a job! >

Re: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
>Was just saying that teams are in the business of winning, and for the >most part, will put whoever on the field they think will assist in >that goal. Ah, but they are also in the business of making money...and there's a big question of whether the fans are angry enough about this to boycott a t

RE: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Scott Stewart
I agree, I don't see how the NFL, who touts their players as role models, can let Vick back in. You didn't hear a whole lot about TO last season. He played for Dallas and kept his mouth shut, or Parcells shut it for him. For every Michael Vick, Terrell Owens or PacMan Jones, there's a dozen Art

Re: either they don't care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Tony
i know :) i guess im just a bit lit up by all this On 8/22/07, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey T, > > The Nation of Islam is a militant African American organization, > Currently run by Louis Farrakhan it's intent is the promotion of their ideal > for the African American populatio

Re: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Tony
On 8/22/07, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Umm.. > > Because White people have been free in the US forever. white people with money have. > Black people got their real freedom just about 40 years ago.That's not > a very long time at all. There are still people alive who can remember > those d

Re: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Jerry Johnson
I would say we don't, Scott, from those example. The social orgs are not advocacy groups (often quite the opposite!), are based on national origins, and for the most part have very loose requirements. These would be analogous to a social organization for Tunisian-Americans. The ADL is a much clo

Re: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Tony
i dont know. everyone loves a dog. and how can anyone forget this. just doesnt seem like the same thing id take T.O. over Vick any day of the week. hell, id take pacman jones over vick. im done with vick. i was a MAJOR vick fan i love pitbulls i love dogs but im done with vick. ill never su

Re: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Charlie Griefer
Heh. I wasn't comparing the locker-room cancer T.O with the dog-killer Vick :) Was just saying that teams are in the business of winning, and for the most part, will put whoever on the field they think will assist in that goal. I'd love to see him banned from the league. I admire what Goodell's

RE: either they don't care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Scott Stewart
Hey T, The Nation of Islam is a militant African American organization, Currently run by Louis Farrakhan it's intent is the promotion of their ideal for the African American population, at the expense of any other population and "by any means necessary". Has nothing to do with Islam, the or Mus

Re: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Vivec
Umm.. Because White people have been free in the US forever. Black people got their real freedom just about 40 years ago.That's not a very long time at all. There are still people alive who can remember those days. The last Buffalo Soldier died only recently as one example. Racism, segregation a

Re: Cincinnati

2007-08-22 Thread Erika L. Walker
ha! :) On 8/21/07, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is that supposed to be a compliment :) > > On 8/21/07, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm backing Dana. I'll bet she could kick Sam's ass from here to the > moon > > > > > > ~~~

RE: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Scott Stewart
Here's my theory: The majority of the ancestors of African Americans in the US were not brought here by choice, and can't really be traced reliably back to country of origin. Also many of the countries in Africa only came into being in the last couple of hundred years, prior to that it was mostly

Re: either they don't care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Tony
nope. i have no problem with the nation of islam, do i have a problem with muslim extremists, yes. do i have a problem with being able to determine who are terrorists and who are not, yes. therefore i have a bit of a prejudice towards muslims in general. what i was getting at was this... the naa

RE: either they don't care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Bruce Sorge
Ahh, OK then. -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 12:50 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: either they don't care about their image... This was more directed at Tony but... "by any means necessary" is a direct quote from Malcolm X And is a direct tene

Re: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Charlie Griefer
On 8/22/07, Mary Jo Sminkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The question of course is whether any team would even take him on and the negative >> press they would likely get as a result. He certainly has a right to make a living after >> serving his time, as any felon would. But in a very high-profil

Re: HTML vs. XHTML

2007-08-22 Thread Charlie Griefer
On 8/22/07, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >so what is xhtml? > >why should i use it? > >what is needed to use it? > > Here's a good one, XHTML with a CSS layout loads 3 - 5 times faster than an > HTML layout. I would think that's primarily due to the introduction of the CSS, moreso tha

RE: either they don't care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Scott Stewart
This was more directed at Tony but... "by any means necessary" is a direct quote from Malcolm X And is a direct tenet of the Nation of Islam. -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC. 27616 (703) 220-2835 http://www.sstwebworks.com http://www.linkedin.

RE: either they don't care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Bruce Sorge
Uhhh, what? What does what I said have anything to do with the Nation of Islam? -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 12:23 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: either they don't care about their image... It sounds like your problem

Re: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Tony
but how about just WHITE PEOPLE in general. BLACK PEOPLE IN GENERAL get that coverage through the NAACP why cant we or WHY DONT WE have a NAAWP? just doesnt seem right? tw On 8/22/07, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We do Tony, > > The St. Andrews Society, for Scottish Americans, mor

Re: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
>I agree with this statement, for the most part. There is a man >playing in the NFL - a lineman or linebacker or something - who has >gotten three DUIs, and killed a woman - a mother - in the third >accident. > >He's still playing in the NFL, after having killed someone. Killing someone in a DUI

RE: cool robotic AFV

2007-08-22 Thread Scott Stewart
An autonomous robotic vehicle means a few less soldiers in harms way.. -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC. 27616 (703) 220-2835 http://www.sstwebworks.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks -Original Message- From: William Bowen [mai

RE: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Scott Stewart
We do Tony, The St. Andrews Society, for Scottish Americans, more or less a social organization The Anti Defamation League, more along the lines of the NAACP, in fighting racism, specifically targeting Jewish Americans Order Sons of Italy on America There's a lot more, these are the one's I co

RE: either they don't care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Scott Stewart
It sounds like your problem is with the Nation of Islam, not the NAACP. They've made a bonehead statement, but I think their aim is a level playing field. Farrakhan and his like are the black version of the KKK. -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC.

Re: cool robotic AFV

2007-08-22 Thread William Bowen
sorry, I was looking at the video and seeing nothing that wasn't already well covered. I love robots, I think they're great, but I'm not sure I would want autonomous capabilities in a truck. -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie

Re: HTML vs. XHTML

2007-08-22 Thread Larry Lyons
>so what is xhtml? >why should i use it? >what is needed to use it? Here's a good one, XHTML with a CSS layout loads 3 - 5 times faster than an HTML layout. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade to ColdFusion 8 and int

Re: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Vivec
I understand your soldier analogy, and yes it does not necessarily imply that every soldier enjoys violence or is attracted to it. But I also add that I'm not surprised by those who are. I would be surprised though, if a Golfer or a Cricketer was found to enjoy bloodsport, for example.But I'd be l

Re: cool robotic AFV

2007-08-22 Thread Larry Lyons
>so this vehicle does something a tank can't? > >or is the upshot here that it has wheels and therefore must be more >maneuverable? > Its an autonomous robot. The thing is basically going 30 mph cross-country with no driver etc. That's cool in and of itself.

Re: HTML vs. XHTML

2007-08-22 Thread Tony
ZACKLY On 8/22/07, Ben Doom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bill by the hour, baby! > > --BenD > > Jacob wrote: > > What are the benefits of writing regular HTML? > > Take five times as long to create the same page in XHTML > > > ~

Re: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Tony
On 8/22/07, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What do these guys do for a living? why does this matter? peyton manning doesnt kill dogs. marcus allen didnt kill dogs. joe montana didnt either. i dont see the point. > Dress up in armor and slam into other people with the intention of > taking t

Re: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Tony
wrong. why cant we have an NAAWP that does the same as the NAACP? tony On 8/22/07, Russel Madere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Duke beat you to it. He started that with his Klan cronies in the late > 80s. > > >could we? should we? start an NAAWP? > > > >or would that be a racist and wrong

Re: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Jerry Johnson
They are, but those are state, not federal charges, is my understanding. Wait till next week... On 8/22/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd like to know why they aren't pursuing the racketeering and gambling > charges against him. ~~

Re: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Tony
ME FUCKING TOO! wtf? wth? On 8/22/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd like to know why they aren't pursuing the racketeering and gambling > charges against him. ~| Download the latest ColdFusion 8 utilities including Rep

Re: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Crow T. Robot
Being an avid NFL fan, I can honestly say that I think most of the players are gentle giants, not violent pricks. We just happen to hear about those who can't keep it on the field. Also, I think that upbringing/environment has a lot to do with those who get into trouble. It is certainly sad, but

Re: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread William Bowen
> I'd like to know why they aren't pursuing the racketeering and gambling > charges against him. he weaseled his way out. they most probably had him dead-to-rights on the charges he plead out on, and so avoided having to make a case for the gambling and racketeering; which while carrying much hig

Re: HTML vs. XHTML

2007-08-22 Thread Charlie Griefer
XHTML is HTML all grown up with standards and rules enforced. at its most basic: 1) nested tags must be nested properly. e.g. foo. 2) all tags must be closed. e.g. this is a list item or this is an option. tags can be self-closed if there is no data (such as as opposed to ). 3) all tag attrib

Re: W00t! :: Got a job!

2007-08-22 Thread Larry Lyons
>> It's like that man. > >So is this a bad time to mention that the company I work for needs >some contract work done as well? > >I'm looking at around 450 hours of billable work that has to be done >by the end of November... I'm the only CF programmer here and if we >have any chance of completing

Re: cool robotic AFV

2007-08-22 Thread Ian Skinner
William Bowen wrote: > so this vehicle does something a tank can't? > > or is the upshot here that it has wheels and therefore must be more > maneuverable? Since everything I saw called it a "truck," I presume it carries more cargo then a tank, at least I would hope so. But I suspect the cool asp

Re: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Vivec
What do these guys do for a living? Dress up in armor and slam into other people with the intention of taking them out of the play/game. its brutal, its violent. It's not 'fake' like WWF style wrestling. What kind of people do you really expect to be molding with this? It's like being shocked th

Re: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Charlie Griefer
ah gotcha. i misread/misunderstood. On 8/22/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, these clan guys actually formed a different group called that. > > Although I think they used European and not white in the name. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTE

Re: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Crow T. Robot
I know. He shouldn't be allowed to plea. That frustrates the crap outta me. Why would the prosecution settle for this? They have insurmountable evidence, or at least, that is what the media is leading us to believe. Take the douchebag to trial. Let him be judged by 12 of his "peers". On 8/22/

Re: HTML vs. XHTML

2007-08-22 Thread Ben Doom
Bill by the hour, baby! --BenD Jacob wrote: > What are the benefits of writing regular HTML? > Take five times as long to create the same page in XHTML ~| Download the latest ColdFusion 8 utilities including Report Builder, plu

Re: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Charlie Griefer
thought you were suggesting that i wasn't seeing the bigotry/ignorance. nevermind :) On 8/22/07, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was making a funny. I am on your side Charlie. > > -Original Message- > From: Charlie Griefer > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:59 AM > To: CF-Co

Re: HTML vs. XHTML

2007-08-22 Thread Charlie Griefer
i do over anyway. i'm claustrophobic and just freaks me out :) On 8/22/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > NS will parse xhtml files but you have to make sure you have a space before > you close singleton tags. > > > > Not > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Charlie Griefer [m

Re: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Paul Ihrig
put your money where your mouth is. if you don't like it, stop watching football. stop gamboling on it & tell your friends to do the same. if you don't like the celeb, stob letting them be one... meaning ban the venue... fnck its not that hard Tony.. btw.. Fuck Mike Vick.. ~~

RE: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Loathe
I don't think that felons should be allowed to play professional sports. Would like to see this be enforce by owners and the leagues, but it won't be, and it shouldn't be legislated so > -Original Message- > From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, Augus

RE: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Bruce Sorge
I was making a funny. I am on your side Charlie. -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:59 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: either they dont care about their image... i didn't say they weren't bigoted nor did i say they weren't ignorant :) i just do

RE: HTML vs. XHTML

2007-08-22 Thread Loathe
The all caps tags kill me. > -Original Message- > From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:31 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: HTML vs. XHTML > > On 8/22/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > What are the benefits of writing regular HTML?

Re: cool robotic AFV

2007-08-22 Thread William Bowen
so this vehicle does something a tank can't? or is the upshot here that it has wheels and therefore must be more maneuverable? > blog article > http://www.ospreyblog.com/blog/2007/08/for-all-those-a.html > > video of the AFV > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZtlTHEHj4M > -- will "If my life w

RE: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Loathe
No, these clan guys actually formed a different group called that. Although I think they used European and not white in the name. > -Original Message- > From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:47 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: either they

Re: HTML vs. XHTML

2007-08-22 Thread Paul Ihrig
so what is xhtml? why should i use it? what is needed to use it? ~| Get the answers you are looking for on the ColdFusion Labs Forum direct from active programmers and developers. http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/categ

RE: HTML vs. XHTML

2007-08-22 Thread Loathe
NS will parse xhtml files but you have to make sure you have a space before you close singleton tags. Not > -Original Message- > From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:43 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: HTML vs. XHTML > > > > -O

RE: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Loathe
I'd like to know why they aren't pursuing the racketeering and gambling charges against him. > -Original Message- > From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:36 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: either they dont care about their image... > > saw that...

Re: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Crow T. Robot
well put. On 8/22/07, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > One shows a lack of personal control and bad judgement. > The other shows MALICE. > > I think one can be prevented (the drunk driving). > I think the other shows a damaged, soulless human being, who is beyond the > pale. > > I'd ra

RE: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Jacob
NAACP wanted to hang Don Imus from the highest oak tree in New York for making a dumb remark. NAACP wants us to lighten up on Vick for killing animals. How much money does R.L. White have on the Falcons making it to the Superbowl??? -Original Message- From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Charlie Griefer
i didn't say they weren't bigoted nor did i say they weren't ignorant :) i just don't see them as the "black" version of the KKK. nor would i see the "NAAWP" (as T. jokingly suggested) as the "same thing" as the KKK (as R. suggested). But do I think that both the NAACP and the fictitious NAAWP a

RE: either they dont care about their image...

2007-08-22 Thread Bruce Sorge
Unless you consider bigotry and ignorance advancement. LOL Bruce -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:47 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: either they dont care about their image... really not the same. if there were a functionally equivalent vers

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