I'm late to this thread, but here goes:
When I was in cub scouts as a kid, we had a pretty good group for awhile. I
had no idea of any of these issues- what gay was, etc. so I didn't care.
Later on, we got a new scout leader whose son shared all sorts of racist
things his father had to say about h
> -Original Message-
> From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 11:04 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Boy Scouts Of America
>
> > Jim wrote:
> > If so, then - yeah. Fuck the Catholics as well. ;^)
> >
>
> Ha! Well ... I don't know what the Pope
The Catholic church isn't much different:
"Furthermore, after taking pontificial office, one of the more
controversial decisions of Pope Benedict XVI has been the decision of
the Congregation for Catholic Education to further prohibit any
individual who has present deep-seated homosexual tendencie
> Adam wrote:
> The whole "behavior" thing is a way to side-step what is really meant.
> Here's one you might understand:
As a reminder, you can make your arguments without becoming emotional
and thus insulting - it makes it more interesting and useful. I also
get the feeling we're talking past e
> Jim wrote:
> If so, then - yeah. Fuck the Catholics as well. ;^)
>
Ha! Well ... I don't know what the Pope would say, but a Catholic
acquaintance of mine will no longer talk to an atheist friend of mine
for that exact reason.
My Catholic friends just bristle at an openly atheist person; well
> Larry wrote:
> Private groups do have the right to discriminate as to those they accept into
> membership.
I have no idea what the BSOA receives for cash, but given that
churches are tax-exempt that seems like it's own form of payola that
wouldn't be any different. If you're tax-exempt, you're
> -Original Message-
> From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 8:01 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Boy Scouts Of America
>
> Sometimes degree can define the boundary of kind.
Sometimes... but not in this case, I think.
> You're *not* just def
You haven't listened a bit, have you?
To recap:
The whole "behavior" thing is a way to side-step what is really meant.
Here's one you might understand: If you exhibit homosexual behavior, what
are you? Come on, Gruss, you can do it. What are you if you exhibit
homosexual behavior? No, not a "t
> -Original Message-
> From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 6:49 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Boy Scouts Of America
>
> > Jim wrote:
> > In this case the Scouts are specifically teaching hateful (and, I
> hope we
> > agree, dumb ass) things (
> -Original Message-
> From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 6:33 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Boy Scouts Of America
>
> > Jim wrote:
> > You're willing to tolerate something distasteful because there's
> something
> > attractive enough for yo
>It depends on what you want to teach your hypothetical children. If
>you're saying, "hey, it's okay to be intolerant, as long as you agree
>with the particular flavor of intolerance" then by all means, join the
>BSA. If you want to teach them that intolerance is intolerance, then
>don't. And, fran
> Adam wrote:
> Are you really that intellectually challenged to think that I was saying
> that about the Boy Scouts?
>
> Also, how is a synagogue an exclusionary group?
>
Yes, I am intellectually challenged as to the points you're making.
Here's what the BSOA has to say on this topic:
"An avowe
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Are you really that intellectually challenged to think that I was saying
that about the Boy Scouts?
Also, how is a synagogue an exclusionary group?
Respectfully,
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President
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From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:
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From: Gruss Gott
> Jim wrote:
> You're defining, personally, what you find valuable. That can be some
> concrete like a sunroof or something ethereal like a principle.
>
BTW - what about the Girl Scouts? Are they to be shunned as well?
Cause I
normally.. when a snake starts to shed it rubs it's head around on something
to break the tip, once that starts to roll off it will either catch on
something or start to roll up (like a sock if you rolled it down your leg..)
as the snake slowly slithers out the skin is left behind either rolled up
Sometimes degree can define the boundary of kind.
You're *not* just defining one or more attributes that you personally find
valuable; you're making a public claim *about the value of a people,*
whether you intend to or not. It's how they take it, not how you mean it.
And though you didn't mean
> Until then it's organized discrimination being at least partially funded by
> my taxes.
No more access to public schools, no more access to reduced rents on
public buildings.
to start.
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will
"If my life weren't funny, it would just be true;
and that would just be unacceptable."
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> BTW - what about the Girl Scouts? Are they to be shunned as well?
> Cause I love Girl Scout cookies.
What about the Girl Scouts? They do not make belief in God, or
profession thereof a requirement for membership.
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"If my life weren't funny, it would just be true;
and that would just
> -Original Message-
> From: morchella [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 2:40 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: gay marriage, was RE: Boy Scouts Of America (starts from
> Gruss' last response)
>
> i know several gay guys. my bro is one.
> every one i know belie
> Jim wrote:
> In this case the Scouts are specifically teaching hateful (and, I hope we
> agree, dumb ass) things (that all atheists are immoral) to their leaders.
But how is different from the Catholic Church? I donate to the little
neighbor girl's Catholic fund raisers all of the time.
She wa
> 1.) The kid is involved in a values organization no different than ANY church.
Except the part where the BSA gets/uses public money.
http://www.bsa-discrimination.org/html/taxes_and_bsa.html
> 2.) The parents have the right to attend church or be part of the BSOA.
Of course, but if they want
> Jim wrote:
> You're defining, personally, what you find valuable. That can be some
> concrete like a sunroof or something ethereal like a principle.
>
BTW - what about the Girl Scouts? Are they to be shunned as well?
Cause I love Girl Scout cookies.
~~~
> -Original Message-
> From: morchella [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 11:37 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Boy Scouts Of America
>
> because it is a private organization.
I hate to be repetitive but at soon as it stops taking publics funds it can
be a "p
> -Original Message-
> From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 10:49 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Boy Scouts Of America
>
> > Deanna wrote:
> > It depends on what you want to teach your hypothetical children. If
> > you're saying, "hey, it's oka
> Jim wrote:
> You're willing to tolerate something distasteful because there's something
> attractive enough for you to make that compromise.
I am willing to tolerate Jews. I am willing to tolerate Catholics. I
am willing to tolerate the BSOA. These are all exclusionary clubs,
but I'm willing
> Adam wrote:
> If you were a German in 1937 and a handsome little blond-haired, blue-eyed
> child came smiling to your door asking you to buy Christmas wreaths to
> support his group, and that group just happened to be the Hitler Youth,
> would you have bought a wreath?
>
LOL! So you're saying t
> Ben wrote:
> If the term "marriage" has any legal standing, then it should be applied
> across-the-board.
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> -Original Message-
> From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 8:30 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Boy Scouts Of America
>
> It's not the same model as buying a car that suits you "sort of"; it's
> about
> principle.
I think it is: it's a diffe
> -Original Message-
> From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 9:49 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Boy Scouts Of America
>
> > Paul wrote:
> > and on same note there have always been closeted Gays in the BSOA as
> > well as the USAF
> > so who giv
> I always thought she was more of a troll than a snake.
Harpy or harridan methinks...
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smokers are not a protected group. Nor should they be in my opinion.
You are free to not hire someone because he smokes. I realize that
some people here feel strongly otherwise.
On 11/5/07, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> which is legal/illegal? admitting to smoking or saying why he w
I agree
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On 11/5/07, Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> awesome!
> thanks for the heads up.
> love all things astral..
>
>
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OK. Fine. But the gov't should use the same language for everyone,
then. As in, "I went before the judge to get a civil union with my
girlfriend".
If the term "marriage" has any legal standing, then it should be applied
across-the-board. Also, if a "marriage" is a religious- or
culturally-
Ideally, I would like to see the State get out of the marriage business
entirely and stick with something it has more experience in, approving and
enforcing contracts. If two people (or three people or whatever) want to
form a union in which they share resources, designate caretakers, etc, I
think
I meant is it legal to not hire b/c he smokes. Apparently, tho, it is.
On Nov 5, 2007 2:33 PM, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> which is legal/illegal? admitting to smoking or saying why he wasnt hired
> or
> the fact they didnt hire him?
>
> On 11/5/07, Crow T. Robot <[EMAIL PROTECT
Gruss,
You *are* missing something.
If you were a German in 1937 and a handsome little blond-haired, blue-eyed
child came smiling to your door asking you to buy Christmas wreaths to
support his group, and that group just happened to be the Hitler Youth,
would you have bought a wreath?
Do you k
> BTW - the reason this started is because I bought Boy Scout wreathes
> from a neighborhood kid. My wife felt like that was "support" for
> BSOA whereas I look at it as more support for the kid.
Your wife is right, the kid will realize no direct benefit. The BSA
will. And from that, you are agre
I always thought she was more of a troll than a snake.
On Nov 5, 2007, at 3:19 PM, Adam Churvis wrote:
> No, it really looked *exactly* like Ann Coulter, really.
>
> Oh, you mean the snake.
>
> The molts I've seen weren't inverted because the molting skin didn't
> occlude
> to the fresh skin.
No, it really looked *exactly* like Ann Coulter, really.
Oh, you mean the snake.
The molts I've seen weren't inverted because the molting skin didn't occlude
to the fresh skin. Just split and slide away.
Do some snakes invert their molt?
Respectfully,
Adam Phillip Churvis
President
Productiv
which is legal/illegal? admitting to smoking or saying why he wasnt hired or
the fact they didnt hire him?
On 11/5/07, Crow T. Robot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > why did you admit to that? And is that legal?
> >
> > On Nov 5, 2007 10:37 AM, Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > i can
> Now that they accept public money can be a more contentious issue. But not
> one
> specific to this thread.
That they accept public money is an extremely contentious issue and
flies directly in the face of their discriminatory stance.
Crying "we're a private organization" and then accepting p
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IMHO, no. And this is where other beliefs come into play.
I know that there are people who believe homosexuality is a choice. I
think these people are mistaken. Promiscuity, sexual addiction aside,
is a choice.
To me, banning gays from is like banning blondes, or
blacks, or people with buc
i know several gay guys. my bro is one.
every one i know believes in civil union, but not marriage.
i believe in marriage for gays or civil union.
i have a friend who's partner dropped dead after a heart attack.
32 year relationship gone in a secong.
he couldnt claim the body or follow out his par
Why? (not trying to stir up a shitstorm).
Isn't "marriage" a church function?
Shouldn't the government only recognize the union of a man and a woman, man
and man, woman and woman. And leave church sanctioning out of it?
I'm all for gay couples having the same rights as hetero couples, but I
don't
Heh. Maybe. I'm far from perfect, which is one reason I rarely get
into these discussions. However, with as many GLBT friends as I have
(well, just GLB if you want to be picky), this becomes a hotbutton issue
with me, and I have a well-defined knee-jerk reaction. There.
Admitting I have a p
You're talking about an attribute, rather than something that is core to the
very identity of a person.
We're talking about grouping people like the Nazis did (by a recognized type
of people), not grouping them according to some relatively trivial attribute
or temporary behavior.
Respectfully,
A
it would be inverted, and lighter if it were just the skin, the head would
at least be rolled a bit..
On 11/5/07, Adam Churvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This same exact thing happened to me once at a party.
>
> I was standing there, sipping champagne, when I turn around with a sip in
> my
> m
because i try to be honest.
not sure about the legalities.
but i guess they where sued a bunch from past employees who developed
lund cancer from certain chemicals.
now there are careful who the hire.
On 11/5/07, Crow T. Robot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> why did you admit to that? And is that l
"Isn't insisting that the BSOA adopt a homogeneous secular value system
(similar to the BS of Canada, btw) it's own form of intolerance and
discrimination?"
Who has insisted the BSOA adopt anything?
All I have read are several people who disagree with the BSOA's policy and as
such will not suppo
> Ian wrote:
> Now that they accept public money can be a more contentious issue. But not
> one specific to this thread.
>
That's true that I think we all object to their particular exclusion;
however, I'm trying to normalize that with, say, a church.
For example, I have lots of Catholic and Je
might be... if you do drugs even off the job they can refuse to hire
you... they may feel the insurance hit is not worth it. There is no
inherent right to smoke.
Dana
On 11/5/07, Crow T. Robot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> why did you admit to that? And is that legal?
>
> On Nov 5, 2007 10:37 AM,
> Would that be wrong?
Yes.
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Again, no one is suggesting that BSOA adopt anything. It's entirely about
how we react to what they are about *now*.
Respectfully,
Adam Phillip Churvis
President
Productivity Enhancement
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From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 12:
So what if it's a private organization? So is the American Nazi Party.
No one debates their rights to believe or say or require anything, just like
the American Nazi Party.
The point is not making them do or say anything different from what they are
now doing or saying; it's how we react to them
Nice!
i'd never heard "Goodbye" until it came on my tuner the other day.It's
now one of my favorite 80's power ballads.
On 11/5/07, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> G Money's gonna be out tonight watchin the stars with his honey
> listening to Night Ranger's Greatest hits I gu
> The Crow wrote:
> why did you admit to that? And is that legal?
>
Well, they test, and this is a classic case. The legality is a
state-by-state thing depending on how the States protect smokers.
And, yes, a company even in a state that doesn't protect smokers (~20)
is still open to law suits,
> Ben wrote:
> I just strongly disagree with any sort of discrimination against the
> GBLT segment of society.
I totally agree: I favor Gay Marriage, not just civil unions.
But.
Isn't insisting that the BSOA adopt a homogeneous secular value system
(similar to the BS of Canada, btw) it's own for
I caught the shuttle and the ISS the other nightabout 2 minutes it was
in view. That kind of stuff just absolutely fascinates me.
To this day, I think the Hale-Bopp comet was the coolest thing I have ever
seen.
On 11/5/07, Deanna Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Cool. I tried to catch
morchella wrote:
> i think even trying to classify a kid as gay is way crazy, and not
> even the point.
I'm not talking about children, so much as kids in their late teens.
All of the gay people I've talked to knew they were gay by 16 or so.
> if they want they can join the girl scouts that allo
> BenD wrote:
> Except the BSOA does not ban homosexual behavior during scouting events
> and/or on scout property. They ban it, period. Which would be like a
> company saying that their employees may not engage in PDA ever. Even on
> their honeymoon.
>
How about a group that banned promiscuity
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On 11/5/07, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> So, I
why did you admit to that? And is that legal?
On Nov 5, 2007 10:37 AM, Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i cant get a job at the Scotts company because i smoke...
> whats the difference? its my body...
>
>
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On Nov 5, 2007 10:30 AM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone else goin' comet gazing tonight
>
> http://www.skyandtelescope.com/observing/home/10862521.html
>
> --
> And all this could be
> Just a dream so it seems
> I was never much good at goodbye
>
>
>
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listening to Night Ranger's Greatest hits I guess
On Nov 5, 2007, at 10:30 AM, G Money wrote:
> Anyone else goin' comet gazing tonight
>
> http://www.skyandtelescope.com/observing/home/10862521.html
>
> --
> And all this coul
Cool. I tried to catch the shuttle zooming past under the crescent
moon and Venus this morning, but didn't see it. I saw it the night it
launched, though.
On Nov 5, 2007 11:06 AM, Bruce Sorge wrote:
> Pretty cool stuff. I will be outside tonight. I am fortunate to live in
> a very rural area so t
Pretty cool stuff. I will be outside tonight. I am fortunate to live in
a very rural area so there is no light pollution. Should be fun.
Bruce
G Money wrote:
> Anyone else goin' comet gazing tonight
>
> http://www.skyandtelescope.com/observing/home/10862521.html
>
>
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Paul Ihrig wrote:
> i cant get a job at the Scotts company because i smoke...
> whats the difference? its my body...
>
>
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to include a checkbox and quickly step back with all the freakin
declarations going
because it is a private organization.
they have every right to believe what they want, and a child has every
right to join if they are invited. my brother is gay, he was a scout
for 10+ years, every one had a feeling, but he didn't come out until
he was 23 years old.
i think even trying to classif
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Gruss Gott wrote:
> (1.) We believe homosexual romantic and sexual relationships are wrong, and
> (2.) We ban that *behavior* from the BSA.
>
> Then I'm ok for the same reason I'm ok with corporations banning PDA
> on their premises: you can ban behavior, but not people.
Except the BSOA does not
Well, you said we should strive for acceptance instead of tolerance. So
maybe I shouldn't have used "force".
When you say "accepting them as full-fledged human beings", I consider that
an aspect of tolerance, to be honest.
We believe the same thing here, I just think we are getting tangled in
ter
This same exact thing happened to me once at a party.
I was standing there, sipping champagne, when I turn around with a sip in my
mouth and there, right in front of me, is ANN COULTER! Looked just like
your snake. I spit my champagne all over her face and apologized, and she's
like, "Oh, don't
> Deanna wrote:
> It depends on what you want to teach your hypothetical children. If
> you're saying, "hey, it's okay to be intolerant, as long as you agree
> with the particular flavor of intolerance" then by all means, join the
> BSA.
Yeah, I agree, but I do think there is a broader point:
Isn
Nope, you're wrong. Acceptance means accepting them as full-fledged human
beings, not agreeing with or participating in their way or life. Just as
tolerance means "tolerating" them as human beings, which I think is
unhealthy to say the least.
And what's all this about "forcing?" Why did you ass
> gMoney wrote:
> We may be splitting hairs here, but I don't think you can force someone to
> "accept" your way of life. I mean, an American who despises
> homosexualshas every right to do so. All we can ensure is that this
> person's hatred, or intolerance, is not carried out as a matter of p
Got any stories of parents run amok???
On 11/5/07, Ben Doom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> And if you don't have a kid to coach, put on the black and officiate.
>
> --Ben "used to be a volunteer ref" Doom
>
>
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Not to be a wise ass butdid it have a rattle? :)
On 11/5/07, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> it's the whole carcass. I'm not great at identifying snakes, but I do
> know that rattlesnakes are fairly common in my area.
>
--
And all this could be
Just a dream so it seems
I wa
And if you don't have a kid to coach, put on the black and officiate.
--Ben "used to be a volunteer ref" Doom
Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
> Today was the last day of my soccer season with my 5 year old girls.
> If anyone is on the fence on whether they would want to coach some
> kind of youth s
It got wrapped up in something?
It looks poisonous rattlesnake-ish to me ayup.
I'd have run quickly and far away ^_^
On Nov 5, 2007 11:33 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> it's the whole carcass. I'm not great at identifying snakes, but I do
> know that rattlesnakes are fairly c
On Nov 5, 2007 9:31 AM, Adam Churvis wrote:
> I would say that tolerance is no virtue, because it only goes as far as not
> bashing someone's head in for being different.
>
> You "tolerate" a nasty bout with the flu.
>
> "Acceptance" should be what we talk about. It's not a play on words,
> eithe
We may be splitting hairs here, but I don't think you can force someone to
"accept" your way of life. I mean, an American who despises
homosexualshas every right to do so. All we can ensure is that this
person's hatred, or intolerance, is not carried out as a matter of public
policy.
Tolerance
I didn't write that...
On 11/5/07, Adam Churvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > That would change if BSA gave speeches about intolerance or inequality.
>
> Their written creed *is* a speech.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Adam Phillip Churvis
> President
> Pro
Remember, you're always welcome here.
Even if you did pick a career where you don't get to use regular
expressions. :-)
--BenD
Bruce Sorge wrote:
> Thanks Scott. Me and all the others appreciate it.
> In fact, I have an announcement. The reason that I have to drop a lot of
> weight soon is I d
it's the whole carcass. I'm not great at identifying snakes, but I do
know that rattlesnakes are fairly common in my area.
On Nov 5, 2007, at 9:25 AM, G Money wrote:
> Is that just the shedded skin of a snake, or is that a dead snake
> carcass?
>
> And the colors seem to be consistent with
Paul Ihrig wrote:
> and on same note there have always been closeted Gays in the BSOA as
> well as the USAF
> so who gives a shit..
I give a shit. OK, as far as the USAF goes, I can understand the
reasoning, and am tentatively OK with it.
However, why should teens have to remain closeted to be
I would say that tolerance is no virtue, because it only goes as far as not
bashing someone's head in for being different.
You "tolerate" a nasty bout with the flu.
"Acceptance" should be what we talk about. It's not a play on words,
either. Children get a sense of words, if not their full mean
From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> That would change if BSA gave speeches about intolerance or inequality.
Their written creed *is* a speech.
Respectfully,
Adam Phillip Churvis
President
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> I was just minding my own business, getting some stuff out of the back
> seat of my truck, I turn around and see this hanging down almost in my
> face. Needless to say I jumped a little.
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"That behavior?" Certainly no gay scouts are dropping trou and going to
town right there in the middle of a pack meeting, so what do they mean?
They mean that scout behaving as a homosexual outside of the pack meeting,
meaning *ever*, and therefore meaning "if you're a gay person, you can't be
a
Is that just the shedded skin of a snake, or is that a dead snake carcass?
And the colors seem to be consistent with a rattlesnake! Could you determine
what kind of snake it was?
On 11/5/07, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I was just minding my own business, getting some stuff ou
You missed my point. They *are* discriminating against gay people, and
they're couching it in a "behavior" clause.
They just plain and simple despise gay people, period. And they don't want
them anywhere near.
Respectfully,
Adam Phillip Churvis
President
Productivity Enhancement
-Origina
I was just minding my own business, getting some stuff out of the back
seat of my truck, I turn around and see this hanging down almost in my
face. Needless to say I jumped a little.
http://picasaweb.google.com/zaph0d.b33bl3br0x2/Snake
yeah, yeah, I know it's dead, but I didn't know that at
nice answer.
On 11/5/07, Adam Churvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's not the same model as buying a car that suits you "sort of"; it's about
> principle.
>
> If the scouts had a rule that said "We believe _ to be beneath our code,
> so we will not allow them to join or participate," what wo
Most people have included "sexual orientation" in the list with race, color
and creed.
You don't?
On 11/5/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Paul wrote:
> > and on same note there have always been closeted Gays in the BSOA as
> > well as the USAF
> > so who gives a shit..
> >
>
> Wel
> Paul wrote:
> and on same note there have always been closeted Gays in the BSOA as
> well as the USAF
> so who gives a shit..
>
Well my wife is taking a hard stand with the ban on homosexuality as
discriminatory while I am saying that it's no different than the
Catholic Church or the military.
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