RE: Best Buy Warranty: Part Trois

2007-11-27 Thread Steve Logan
Check out www.consumerist.com for all sorts of horror stories dealing with Best Buy. From people being arrested for complaining, to managers hiding in their offices to one woman's story of buying a hard drive, only to get home and find out the box was filled with rocks, and then Best Buy refusing

Re: Best Buy Warranty: Part Trois

2007-11-27 Thread Tony
this is old, but this is a friend of mine, from baltimore, who tried to deal with them, and look what happened to him... http://newsmine.org/archive/security/police-militarization/bestbuy-shopper-arrested-for-two-dollar-bills.txt yeah. fun place. fuck them. tw On 11/27/07, Steve Logan [EMAIL

we are always SO on topic here

2007-11-27 Thread Crow T. Robot
Funny were talking about this the other day. Anyone read this? Honestly, I think this guy should get off scot-free. But he'll probably get fucked in the end, and while he's in jail, some shit-dick will break into his house and steal all his shit. Protecting Neighbor's Home Self-Defense?Testing

Re: we are always SO on topic here

2007-11-27 Thread Greg Morphis
They came in the front yard with me, man if he's referring to his front yard, then yeah I have to agree.. If they were on his property then I believe he has the right. If they were not on his property, then I can't see the self-defense there. I don't think burglary should be punishable by death.

Re: we are always SO on topic here

2007-11-27 Thread Jerry Johnson
I don't think he should get off totally without penalty. It was his neighbors property, and the police told him to let it go. He should at least have to take a gun-owners rights course, or pay an unlawful discharge of a firearm. And maybe an assault charge. I don't think I want my neighbors to

Re: we are always SO on topic here

2007-11-27 Thread Jerry Johnson
You've obviously never been burgled. On Nov 27, 2007 11:42 AM, Greg Morphis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They came in the front yard with me, man if he's referring to his front yard, then yeah I have to agree.. If they were on his property then I believe he has the right. If they were not on his

Re: we are always SO on topic here

2007-11-27 Thread Casey Dougall
On Nov 27, 2007 11:42 AM, Greg Morphis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They came in the front yard with me, man if he's referring to his front yard, then yeah I have to agree.. If they were on his property then I believe he has the right. If they were not on his property, then I can't see the

Re: we are always SO on topic here

2007-11-27 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
I don't know about this scenario. It's got a vigilante justice feel to it. If I were investigating, I'd be making sure that he didn't shoot first and then drag them over to his property. snip Caller: Boom. You're dead. (Sounds of gunshots) Get the law over here quick. I've managed to get one of

Re: we are always SO on topic here

2007-11-27 Thread William Bowen
And the thieves should still be prosecuted for the break in. umm... they got the death penalty. -- will If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable. - Carrie Fisher ~| Get the answers

Re: we are always SO on topic here

2007-11-27 Thread Crow T. Robot
I am torn by this. I agree we should have a society where all laws should be obeyed by everyone, but dammit, this stuff pisses me off. Seems like the criminals have more rights than the citizens. What else was he supposed to do? Watch? You know the police weren't ever going to arrive in time

Re: we are always SO on topic here

2007-11-27 Thread Dana
I read the transcripts when someone posted the link here. It sounded to me like he was just antsy to use his gun. Self-defence is supposed to be when you personally are in danger, not when your neighbor had a burglar. If we were talkng about some tiny toon where the nearest law was an hour away

RE: we are always SO on topic here

2007-11-27 Thread Peterson, Chris
I think that, if thieves would expect that a neighbor *could* shoot them, they may re-evaluate how much that TV is worth to them ;) I say kill em all, and let cf_randomDiety / sort em out Chris Peterson Gainey IT Adobe Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer -Original Message- From: Greg

Re: we are always SO on topic here

2007-11-27 Thread Tony
isnt the goal of any laws to stop offenders? if so, and this is how this guy did it, why should he be prosecuted? if in fact they were NOT, then get him, but if they are prosecuted, fuck em. tw On 11/27/07, Zaphod Beeblebrox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know about this scenario. It's got a

phone review Samsung SCH-i760

2007-11-27 Thread Tony
good? bad? whats ur take on it? its coming out ahead of the blackberry pearl for me... help :) thanks tw -- 'Never have anything in your life that you can't walk out on in thirty seconds flat, if you spot the heat coming around the corner' robert deniro - heat (1995)

Re: we are always SO on topic here

2007-11-27 Thread Tony
THEY WERE BURGLARIZING SOMEONES HOUSE all bets off table for them at that point. wtf On 11/27/07, Dana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read the transcripts when someone posted the link here. It sounded to me like he was just antsy to use his gun. Self-defence is supposed to be when you

US Black Middle-Class Sinking?

2007-11-27 Thread Gruss Gott
SOME black Americans are doing very well. Barack Obama is pulling ahead of Hillary Clinton in Iowa. Tiger Woods is the world's best-paid athlete. Stan O'Neal was given a $160m golden parachute as he was ejected from Merrill Lynch last month. But these exceptional folk are indeed exceptional. For

Re: phone review Samsung SCH-i760

2007-11-27 Thread Crow T. Robot
dood - have you looked into the Voyager? My contract here at work is up in January, I am pushing for that puppy. On Nov 27, 2007 1:05 PM, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: good? bad? whats ur take on it? its coming out ahead of the blackberry pearl for me... help :) thanks tw -- 'Never

Re: we are always SO on topic here

2007-11-27 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
we need to rewrite the law then so that the death penalty is the appropriate punishment for burglary. On 11/27/07, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THEY WERE BURGLARIZING SOMEONES HOUSE all bets off table for them at that point. wtf On 11/27/07, Dana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read the

Re: we are always SO on topic here

2007-11-27 Thread Jerry Johnson
Do you really want a 70 year old neighbor with an itchy trigger deciding who is and who is not burglarizing your property, and having absolutely no jeopardy when he shoots the pool guy or the grocery delivery guy. Because remember, it is not that there is actual danger, it is just if the neighbor

Re: phone review Samsung SCH-i760

2007-11-27 Thread Tony
is it windows mobile or smartphone? tw On 11/27/07, Crow T. Robot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dood - have you looked into the Voyager? My contract here at work is up in January, I am pushing for that puppy. On Nov 27, 2007 1:05 PM, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: good? bad? whats ur take

Re: we are always SO on topic here

2007-11-27 Thread Dana
exactly -- he used deadly force in a situation which did not require it. On 11/27/07, Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you really want a 70 year old neighbor with an itchy trigger deciding who is and who is not burglarizing your property, and having absolutely no jeopardy when he

Re: US Black Middle-Class Sinking?

2007-11-27 Thread Vivec
It's because of genes. They just aren't smart enough. On Nov 27, 2007 3:36 PM, Gruss Gott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A third factor is that even when blacks earn the same as whites, they tend to be less wealthy. In 2000 the average white household in the bottom fifth of income-earners was worth

Re: US Black Middle-Class Sinking?

2007-11-27 Thread Gruss Gott
Gel wrote: They just aren't smart enough. Financially that would seem to be the case: A third factor is that even when blacks earn the same as whites, they tend to be less wealthy. In 2000 the average white household in the bottom fifth of income-earners was worth $24,000. For black

Re: US Black Middle-Class Sinking?

2007-11-27 Thread Jerry Johnson
Its because of jeans. They just can't run after the opportunities in front of them without constantly pulling up their pants. *wonders if there is a correlation between belt level and wealth* Those rich old men on the golf courses in Florida all have their pants at chest level. On Nov 27, 2007

RE: we are always SO on topic here

2007-11-27 Thread Adam Churvis
Actually, it's not at all that simple. Talk to an attorney who *successfully* specializes in gun defense cases in numerous states and he'll give you an earful. Pay particular attention to how your own state's laws work (according to the attorney you retain for guidance -- not through your

Re: US Black Middle-Class Sinking?

2007-11-27 Thread Gruss Gott
Jerry wrote: Those rich old men on the golf courses in Florida all have their pants at chest level. H ... but they also have enormous glasses ... ~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discussions, product development

Re: US Black Middle-Class Sinking?

2007-11-27 Thread Jerry Johnson
That is to see all those ZEROS ! (And you know what they way about men with enormous glasses...) On Nov 27, 2007 4:38 PM, Gruss Gott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jerry wrote: Those rich old men on the golf courses in Florida all have their pants at chest level. H ... but they also have

Re: we are always SO on topic here

2007-11-27 Thread Dana
um, ya. Tony, you might want to be aware that I know someone who got twenty years, in the state of Maryland, for shooting someone who came into his house and was beating up his roommate, an elderly man. He got out in five mind you but I don't imagine the five years were fun. On 11/27/07, Adam

Re: US Black Middle-Class Sinking?

2007-11-27 Thread Sam
a man can by lotsa fotys of ole englis 800 wit 57 dollas On Nov 27, 2007 1:14 PM, Gruss Gott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Financially that would seem to be the case: A third factor is that even when blacks earn the same as whites, they tend to be less wealthy. In 2000 the average white household

So there I was... watching tv..

2007-11-27 Thread Salweg Rettirc
and this ad came on for eharmony.com. I figured what the hell.. I would take their 29 dimensional personality test and see what it says. Who knows, maybe I can gets luckay!? I took a break after a while.. too many questions, head swimming... must needs beeyah. beeyah was good. oh so good. Ok,

Re: So there I was... watching tv..

2007-11-27 Thread Crow T. Robot
damn...that's rough. i thought you quit drinkin? if not, head to barskank land! you're sure to find a match there. heh. On Nov 27, 2007 7:36 PM, Salweg Rettirc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and this ad came on for eharmony.com. I figured what the hell.. I would take their 29 dimensional

Re: So there I was... watching tv..

2007-11-27 Thread Casey Dougall
Dam... For 59 a month, I'm amazed they have any matches... I did find 1 within 60 miles though... On Nov 27, 2007 8:57 PM, Crow T. Robot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: damn...that's rough. i thought you quit drinkin? if not, head to barskank land! you're sure to find a match there. heh. On Nov

US plans to 'fight the net' revealed

2007-11-27 Thread Andrew Grosset
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4655196.stm ...And, in a grand finale, the document recommends that the United States should seek the ability to provide maximum control of the entire electromagnetic spectrum. US forces should be able to disrupt or destroy the full spectrum of

RE: we are always SO on topic here

2007-11-27 Thread Adam Churvis
And I have a friend who got twenty years (out in eight) defending herself because of the direction of a single step she took between the first and second rounds fired. Another friend of mine barely escaped a Grand Jury charge for defending himself and his employees at a movie theatre here in

Re: US plans to 'fight the net' revealed

2007-11-27 Thread Robert Munn
Sounds like the prelude to a Kurt Vonnegut book... On Nov 27, 2007 7:01 PM, Andrew Grosset wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4655196.stm ...And, in a grand finale, the document recommends that the United States should seek the ability to provide maximum control of the

RE: So there I was... watching tv..

2007-11-27 Thread Bruce Sorge
I had the same thing happen to me, then I paid a one month subscription and what do you know, suddenly there were matches. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out their angle. I never did renew the subscription. I figure that if they have to use those tactics, they suck. So I have gone back

Re: US Black Middle-Class Sinking?

2007-11-27 Thread Robert Munn
I don't think there is any great mystery here. The middle class is not exactly bursting with cash in general. As the article noted, with less history of middle class income in their families, and therefore fewer resources to call on in time of need, blacks have a tougher time riding out bumps in

Re: phone review Samsung SCH-i760

2007-11-27 Thread Robert Munn
I know a guy who just got one and loves it. It is smaller than my 6700 by a good bit, and has all the same features plus the external keypad. I have been pondering making a switch, but my 6700 works great with the Windows Mobile upgrade, and I am waiting for Verizon to release the 6800 to see how

Re: we are always SO on topic here

2007-11-27 Thread Dana
ya the deciding factor in Wesley's case was that he left the room to get the gun. Therefore he was not in imminent danger (the reasoning went) therefore he could have called the police instead. Now I grant you that this was the Maryland suburbs of DC not the state of Texas but still. On 11/27/07,