Re: facebook friending

2009-05-04 Thread William Bowen
I am picky on all of them. On 5/4/09, Robert Munn wrote: > > I have started to get a variety of people from around the world wanting to > friend me. Twitter is one thing, but having a bunch of random people have > access to your Facebook network? Does anyone do that? To me Facebook seems > like

Re: if this doesn't strike feaf in your heart

2009-05-04 Thread Robert Munn
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Dana wrote: > > it should > > > http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Congress-Comes-to-Help-Run-the-Internet-584749/?kc=EWKNLVPU05042009STR1 > Let's wait and see what they come up with. I support privacy rights, but not at the expense of security. Boucher has done

facebook friending

2009-05-04 Thread Robert Munn
I have started to get a variety of people from around the world wanting to friend me. Twitter is one thing, but having a bunch of random people have access to your Facebook network? Does anyone do that? To me Facebook seems like a family/colleagues place, LinkedIn seems like a colleagues place, an

Re: Ok, you're so right, Fox News is not biased.

2009-05-04 Thread Robert Munn
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 7:51 AM, Zaphod wrote: > > So I'm painfully listening to the Mike Gallagher show to hear the Nate > Phelps interview. The Fox News update came on and one of the stories > was "Stuck in traffic, blame it on Obama" and the story went on to say > that the public works packag

Re: Dealing with disrespectful daughter

2009-05-04 Thread Maureen
The first steps of conflict negotiation is to determine what the problems are on both sides. Have you tried asking your daughter why she is behaving in this way? A reasoned, quiet discussion with her might bring out issues of which you are unaware. When a sweet, loving child turns petulant, the

Re: Dealing with disrespectful daughter

2009-05-04 Thread Dana
getting back to the point here you know, I think that the people who think the fact that she is reading is a sign she is bored may have a point. On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Erika L. Walker wrote: > > I wasnt advocating EITHER just for the record. > > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Dana

Re: Ok, you're so right, Fox News is not biased.

2009-05-04 Thread Scott Stroz
I have never seen the Big Lebowski, but damn that is a funny line. On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 8:07 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > To quote the Big Lebowski: > > "You're not wrong, Walter, you're just an asshole." > > Fox, of course, is usually also wrong. > > Judah > > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 3:24 PM,

Re: Ok, you're so right, Fox News is not biased.

2009-05-04 Thread Judah McAuley
To quote the Big Lebowski: "You're not wrong, Walter, you're just an asshole." Fox, of course, is usually also wrong. Judah On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > That still does not mean that the projects that are part of the stimulus > bill will not increase traffic. > I und

Re: Ok, you're so right, Fox News is not biased.

2009-05-04 Thread Scott Stroz
That still does not mean that the projects that are part of the stimulus bill will not increase traffic. I understand what you are saying, and agree with you, but it does not make the statement (as misleading as it may be) by FOX false. On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Casey Dougall < ca...@uberwe

Re: Ok, you're so right, Fox News is not biased.

2009-05-04 Thread Gruss Gott
> cftodd wrote: > > I don't really need to.  I already firmly believed my earlier statement > and therefor do not need independent verification. > well I was kind of teaming up with you and replying to Scott ~| Adobe® ColdFusion

Re: Ok, you're so right, Fox News is not biased.

2009-05-04 Thread CFTodd
I don't really need to. I already firmly believed my earlier statement and therefor do not need independent verification. Gruss Gott wrote: >> cfTodd wrote: >> >> No kidding! Plunging to one's death is a once in a lifetime experience. >> > > Ask the people who died when the main north-sou

Re: Ok, you're so right, Fox News is not biased.

2009-05-04 Thread Gruss Gott
> cfTodd wrote: > > No kidding!  Plunging to one's death is a once in a lifetime experience. > Ask the people who died when the main north-south freeway bridge in Minneapolis collapsed during rush hour. Oh, right. They're dead ~~~

Re: Dealing with disrespectful daughter

2009-05-04 Thread morchella
i have spanked girls much older then her. you can in fact spank girls well into there mid 30's earlie 40's.. after that i think it may be inappropriate.. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic rel

Re: Dealing with disrespectful daughter

2009-05-04 Thread Erika L. Walker
I wasnt advocating EITHER just for the record. On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Dana wrote: > you can't spank a girl that age. > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Fr

Re: Dealing with disrespectful daughter

2009-05-04 Thread Dana
you can't spank a girl that age. On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 6:17 AM, Erika L. Walker wrote: > > I "think" you are kidding. At least I hope so > > Spanking is one thing. "Bslapping" your daughter at any age is inexcusable > and why some women find it acceptable as adults to be in abusive > relat

$100M for Comic Books??

2009-05-04 Thread Gruss Gott
Oops, sorry, "graphic novels". But is Richie Rich really a graphic novel? http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1895447,00.html ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date G

Re: Ok, you're so right, Fox News is not biased.

2009-05-04 Thread CFTodd
No kidding! Plunging to one's death is a once in a lifetime experience. Scott Stroz wrote: > You really need to live on the edge a little more ;) > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic releas

Re: Ok, you're so right, Fox News is not biased.

2009-05-04 Thread Scott Stroz
You really need to live on the edge a little more ;) On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Casey Dougall < ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote: > > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > > > > Right, and those projects will lead to increased traffic. > > > > Right, and by 2010 I won

Re: Ok, you're so right, Fox News is not biased.

2009-05-04 Thread Casey Dougall
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Right, and those projects will lead to increased traffic. > Right, and by 2010 I won't cringe every time I drive over the bridge that connects Fish creek to Saratoga lake. This won't be a traffic issue but a detour adding about 15 minutes

Re: Ok, you're so right, Fox News is not biased.

2009-05-04 Thread Scott Stroz
Right, and those projects will lead to increased traffic. On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Casey Dougall < ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote: > > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > > > > Meh... > > Its not a far stretch to think that there wil lbe more traffic from > > in

Re: Dealing with disrespectful daughter

2009-05-04 Thread Duane
Sorry this is a little late in the game but here is what I would do. Remove everything from her room except the bed, blankets, and pillows. Take the door to her bedroom off the hinges and place it where she can see it. Let her earn her items back, including her bedroom door, thru good behavior.

Re: Ok, you're so right, Fox News is not biased.

2009-05-04 Thread Casey Dougall
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Meh... > Its not a far stretch to think that there wil lbe more traffic from > increased road work projects. And since these projects are being funded by > the stimulus paln Obama put into play, then, why can't we blame him for > increased

Re: is it just me or is this a bad idea?

2009-05-04 Thread Gruss Gott
> Judah wrote: > put it politely) without any backing evidence. Go take a look at the > links that Robert posted about physician salaries. I need to do that because I work in health care for a living and am intimately aware of fee schedules, pay, and ... proclivities. And you're right - primary

Re: Ok, you're so right, Fox News is not biased.

2009-05-04 Thread Scott Stroz
Meh... Its not a far stretch to think that there wil lbe more traffic from increased road work projects. And since these projects are being funded by the stimulus paln Obama put into play, then, why can't we blame him for increased traffic? If it happens on his watch, its his fault...just ask Gru

if this doesn't strike feaf in your heart

2009-05-04 Thread Dana
it should http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Congress-Comes-to-Help-Run-the-Internet-584749/?kc=EWKNLVPU05042009STR1 ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http:

Re: is it just me or is this a bad idea?

2009-05-04 Thread Scott Stroz
How can an insurer possibly get volume discounts for supplies and meds from different hospitals, pharamcies, etc? Will the gov't start running pharmacies, hospitals and doctor's offices now too? On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Bargaining power with physicians on reimbur

Re: is it just me or is this a bad idea?

2009-05-04 Thread Scott Stroz
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > The link I posted to PCP salaries was not to compare them to other > types of doctors. It was to refute the point you put out there saying > that even the worst doctor in the country could make several hundred > thousand dollars a year and

Re: is it just me or is this a bad idea?

2009-05-04 Thread Judah McAuley
Bargaining power with physicians on reimbursement rates, bulk purchasing power for medications, all sorts of things. Being big has its advantages. I'd say that group purchase power on pharmaceuticals will be one big cost saver. It is true that they might be able to reduce reimbursement rates for

Re: is it just me or is this a bad idea?

2009-05-04 Thread Dana
a lot of slippery slope arguments here I agree On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 5:28 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > You have shown that one study shows that 'primary care physicians' make > less > > than doctors in other specialties (the numbers Rob

Re: is it just me or is this a bad idea?

2009-05-04 Thread Judah McAuley
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > 1.) You cut their pay across the board.  E.g., eye surgeons will now > make $250k max (not $1m+)  That will be brutal.  or > > 2.) You "deregulate" just like the airlines and force doctors to > compete and consumers to select. > > I don't favor

Re: is it just me or is this a bad idea?

2009-05-04 Thread Scott Stroz
Bargaining power with whom? I take that as the 'single payer' would be better able to negotiate reimbursement rates...which is what private insurers are dong now. Several doctores I was friends with in New Jersey said it was like being shaken down by the mob for 'protection moey'. If they did not

Re: is it just me or is this a bad idea?

2009-05-04 Thread Judah McAuley
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 5:28 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > You have shown that one study shows that 'primary care physicians' make less > than doctors in other specialties (the numbers Rob posted seem to dis-prove > what you are tryign to say) - that is a far cry from proof that doctors in > general do

Re: Ok, you're so right, Fox News is not biased.

2009-05-04 Thread Dana
I just saw the same angle in USA Today. I feel the need to note that I didn't buy the PoC; it was lying around where I ate breakfast. On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > So I'm painfully listening to the Mike Gallagher show to hear the Nate

Re: is it just me or is this a bad idea?

2009-05-04 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dana wrote: > > Dammit Gruss I don't have time for another forever thread, But you > said you agreed with me then restate the same position. I am not > particularly a fan of single payer, but you are, really you are, > arguing as an ideologue here. > Well maybe we're crossing wires then because

Re: Ok, you're so right, Fox News is not biased.

2009-05-04 Thread Casey Dougall
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > So I'm painfully listening to the Mike Gallagher show to hear the Nate > Phelps interview. The Fox News update came on and one of the stories > was "Stuck in traffic, blame it on Obama" and the story wen

Ok, you're so right, Fox News is not biased.

2009-05-04 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
So I'm painfully listening to the Mike Gallagher show to hear the Nate Phelps interview. The Fox News update came on and one of the stories was "Stuck in traffic, blame it on Obama" and the story went on to say that the public works package would mean more highway work thus, more traffic jams

Re: is it just me or is this a bad idea?

2009-05-04 Thread Dana
you're being pretty specious too. A larger pool is more streamlined and has more bargaining power, as well as more capacity to absorb catastrophic costs. Geez. On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 6:40 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 12:30 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: > >> >> >> It involves inc

Re: is it just me or is this a bad idea?

2009-05-04 Thread Dana
Dammit Gruss I don't have time for another forever thread, But you said you agreed with me then restate the same position. I am not particularly a fan of single payer, but you are, really you are, arguing as an ideologue here. It is not as simple as shifting the costs, as the behavior of patients

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2009-05-04 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
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Re: is it just me or is this a bad idea?

2009-05-04 Thread Scott Stroz
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 12:30 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > > It involves increasing the risk pool, strengthening the bargaining > position, investing in preventative medicine and streamlining > administration. By 'strengthening the bargaining position' I assme you mean the same strong-arm techni

Re: is it just me or is this a bad idea?

2009-05-04 Thread Scott Stroz
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 12:07 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > You and Rob and (to a lesser extent) Scott have argued that single > payer is inherently stupid and that doctors are only in it for money > and would never back systematic healthcare reform with the government > as a primary insurance age

Re: is it just me or is this a bad idea?

2009-05-04 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dana wrote: > The fact that Joe Schmo can't afford his premiums does not mean that > he is any more expensive to insure than you or I. I totally agree. I am simply pointing out that the problem is not *who pays* the problem is the total cost and that cost is out of control. If you know anyone