Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread Maureen
His show is on ABC. That's about as major as media gets. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Sam wrote: > > I don't think many people watch him. > Certainly not major media. > > On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:47 PM, Maureen wrote: >> >> Jimmy Kimmel, last I checked was on TV.  TV = Media >> >> On Thu

RE: That was quick

2010-10-28 Thread Eric Roberts
That is because you are not from Chicago ;-) -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 11:50 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: That was quick I don't know how to respond to that... it's best I don't On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 12:40 AM, Eri

Re: That was quick

2010-10-28 Thread Sam
I don't know how to respond to that... it's best I don't On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 12:40 AM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > If he brought Chicago style politics to the Whitehouse, we would have single > payer healthcare and a booming green energy industry and every other thing > he promised on the campa

Re: That was quick

2010-10-28 Thread Sam
Right on track huh? So this was the plan? 5 plus years of 10% unemployment? Can we switch tracks? On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 12:38 AM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > They did just announce that indicators show that a double dip recession > isn't going to happen...so I would say we are on the right track

Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread Sam
You're probably the only that watches Kieth. I bet more people watch Jimmy Kimmel. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 12:35 AM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Yeah...that's the guy...you prolly heard that from Kieth Olberman who had a > segment of his show about him after he won the primary that wasn't very > pos

Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread Sam
I don't think many people watch him. Certainly not major media. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:47 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Jimmy Kimmel, last I checked was on TV.  TV = Media > > On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Sam wrote: >> >> Probably Jimmy Kimmel, it was like two months ago. >> Ions in cybernews

RE: That was quick

2010-10-28 Thread Eric Roberts
If he brought Chicago style politics to the Whitehouse, we would have single payer healthcare and a booming green energy industry and every other thing he promised on the campaign trail and Joe Lieberman would be on the bottom of the Potomac with a pair of cement shoes. Unless you have lived in C

RE: That was quick

2010-10-28 Thread Eric Roberts
They did just announce that indicators show that a double dip recession isn't going to happen...so I would say we are on the right track. -Original Message- From: denstar [mailto:valliants...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:30 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: That was quick

RE: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread Eric Roberts
Yeah...that's the guy...you prolly heard that from Kieth Olberman who had a segment of his show about him after he won the primary that wasn't very positive. So the theory of the media not talking about him and pointing out how "irregular" this guy was because he was a dem is pretty much a crock

Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread Maureen
I watched from "very close" while the events discussed in that ad were happening. Offlist, I'll tell you why I find that ad to be totally laughable. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > what you didn't like the demon sheep ad? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRY7wBuCcBY

Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread Maureen
Jimmy Kimmel, last I checked was on TV. TV = Media On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Sam wrote: > > Probably Jimmy Kimmel, it was like two months ago. > Ions in cybernews years > > On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Maureen wrote: >> >> You don't even know the guy's name, but you've seen an ad by

Re: That was quick

2010-10-28 Thread Sam
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:30 PM, denstar wrote: >>> I think that Obama is trying to do exactly what he said he wanted to do.   >>> Unfortunately it's not what people really want *or* even the reason he was >>> elected. >> >> He's doing what I said he was going to do, not what he said. > > Comp

Re: That was quick

2010-10-28 Thread Sam
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:30 PM, denstar wrote: >> It's sad you see it that way but probably agree with J and G that >> anyone not loving Obama is irrational or an idiot. I'm not saying >> there aren't a few nutters amongst the tea-party, but you threw out >> the entire crop. > > You jump to "lo

Re: That was quick

2010-10-28 Thread denstar
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Sam wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Matthew Small wrote: >> >> I think that Obama is trying to do exactly what he said he wanted to do.   >> Unfortunately it's not what people really want *or* even the reason he was >> elected. > > He's doing what I sa

Re: That was quick

2010-10-28 Thread denstar
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Sam wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 5:42 PM, denstar wrote: >> >> The Tea Party has a lot of a lot of things.  Too many nutbags for my >> taste though.  Which is a shame.  "Co-opted" comes to mind, as in to >> take or assume for one's own use; appropriate. > > I

Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
what you didn't like the demon sheep ad? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRY7wBuCcBY On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Here's my favorite political ad from the California governors race: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctTuJ65et0E > > "Just buy me a sun dress and put me in

Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread Sam
Alvin Greene is his name On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > You talking about the vet that is going against DeMint that seems to have > come about the money to run out of nowhere?  Kinda heavy set black guy? ~~

RE: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread Eric Roberts
You talking about the vet that is going against DeMint that seems to have come about the money to run out of nowhere? Kinda heavy set black guy? -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 7:48 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: FactCheck.org

Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread Sam
Probably Jimmy Kimmel, it was like two months ago. Ions in cybernews years On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Maureen wrote: > > You don't even know the guy's name, but you've seen an ad by his > opponent?  Do you live in South Carolina?  If not, where did you see > the ad, and how did you find ou

Re: Update on the Tea Party stomping...

2010-10-28 Thread Maureen
Apology accepted. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Sam wrote: > > OK, I'm sorry I mocked you. I hate violence and never hurt anyone > unless I'm hit first, even than I try hard not to do damage. > But I never hit a girl, even after getting hit. I don't even wish Dio > mourners to hurt those West

Re: That was quick

2010-10-28 Thread Sam
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Matthew Small wrote: > > I think that Obama is trying to do exactly what he said he wanted to do.   > Unfortunately it's not what people really want *or* even the reason he was > elected. He's doing what I said he was going to do, not what he said. > He was ele

Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread Maureen
You don't even know the guy's name, but you've seen an ad by his opponent? Do you live in South Carolina? If not, where did you see the ad, and how did you find out about it? On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Sam wrote: > > His opponent mentioned it in an ad? > > > On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 8:40

Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread Sam
His opponent mentioned it in an ad? On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Maureen wrote: > > If the media hasn't mentioned it because he's a Dem, how do you know about it? > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.a

Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread Maureen
If the media hasn't mentioned it because he's a Dem, how do you know about it? On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Sam wrote: > > What about the felon that won the primary? He sure as hell isn't going > to mention it and since he's a dem the media wouldn't mention it. > > On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 7:

Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread Sam
Obama would have lost He had no past and ran against Bush and Palin. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > The only thing voters should be told by a candidate are: 1. What have > they done to gain experience that makes them a good fit for the > position to which they are seek

Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread Sam
What about the felon that won the primary? He sure as hell isn't going to mention it and since he's a dem the media wouldn't mention it. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I think that you should be banned from mentioning your opponent in any > ads. I don't want to know abou

RE: Rent Too Damn High Party

2010-10-28 Thread Justin Scott
> Here's my favorite candidate in any race. Wish I > could vote for him. Interesting premise to campaign on, but saying the rent is too high and having a solution for the problem are two different things. Not once did I hear anything about how he's planning to make rents more affordable. Is he

Re: Update on the Tea Party stomping...

2010-10-28 Thread Sam
OK, I'm sorry I mocked you. I hate violence and never hurt anyone unless I'm hit first, even than I try hard not to do damage. But I never hit a girl, even after getting hit. I don't even wish Dio mourners to hurt those Westerborough fools. Just a mellow guy. When you stated republicans attacked

Re: Rent Too Damn High Party

2010-10-28 Thread Jerry Johnson
Yeah. See, I don't even really care how he treats his animals or wives (assuming he has any) I would also vote for him just on that one simple idea. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Here's my favorite candidate in any race. Wish I could vote for him. > > http://www.youtube

Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread Judah McAuley
Ideally, but that would require a system that actually worked that way. If we could have mandatory candidate questionnaires that then got given out to all the voters and we could easily fire an elected official based off of lies/omissions/etc on the survey, then yeah, that might work. As it is, I

Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread Maureen
To use the analogy of a job interview, don't you think it is up to the voter to do background checks and check references before hiring the candidate? On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > I can see this from a job interview sort of point of view. We, as > voters, are interv

Re: Rent Too Damn High Party

2010-10-28 Thread Judah McAuley
He has awesome facial hair. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Here's my favorite candidate in any race.  Wish I could vote for him. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4o-TeMHys0 > > http://www.rentistoodamnhigh.org ~

Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread Judah McAuley
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > The only thing voters should be told by a candidate are: 1. What have > they done to gain experience that makes them a good fit for the > position to which they are seeking election; 2. What they plan to do > if they get elected; 3. Where th

Rent Too Damn High Party

2010-10-28 Thread Maureen
Here's my favorite candidate in any race. Wish I could vote for him. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4o-TeMHys0 http://www.rentistoodamnhigh.org/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfus

RE: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread Eric Roberts
bwahahaha -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 6:39 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010 Damn you...I was just going to reply with something along those lines On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 7:

Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread Maureen
Pretty sure the media would take care of notification of any felon who is running, along with any misdemeanors like a spit-ball fight in five grade. They are much more about spreading the dirt than discussing the issues. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > I understand thi

Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread Scott Stroz
For the record, I don't think anyone _should_ tell the voters that one of the candidates running for office is a life long felon. Again, if someone wants to know, they can easily find out through public records. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > I understand this positio

Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread Maureen
Here's my favorite political ad from the California governors race: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctTuJ65et0E "Just buy me a sun dress and put me in a Prius!" On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Pretty sure I know who I would vote for based on that clip...and I > don't

Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread Scott Stroz
The only thing voters should be told by a candidate are: 1. What have they done to gain experience that makes them a good fit for the position to which they are seeking election; 2. What they plan to do if they get elected; 3. Where they stand on issues that are important to voters. Period. If th

Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread Scott Stroz
Pretty sure I know who I would vote for based on that clip...and I don't care that I have no idea where each stands on what issues. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Some of the ads running out here never mention the candidate they are > for except in the "I approved this" line

Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread Judah McAuley
I understand this position and can see the appeal. What I'm trying to find out though is who, exactly, should tell the voters that one of the people running for the office is a life long felon with a rap sheet a mile long. I'd argue that *someone* should mention it. If you agree that voters should

Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread Scott Stroz
Damn you...I was just going to reply with something along those lines On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > I suppose, if he is running for animal catcher... > > -Original Message- > From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 20

Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread Maureen
Some of the ads running out here never mention the candidate they are for except in the "I approved this" line at the end. The result being I end up knowing more about their opponent that I do them, which is nice when their opponent has the same positions on the issues that I do. Did you see the

RE: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread Eric Roberts
I suppose, if he is running for animal catcher... -Original Message- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 6:19 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010 If your opponent had pertinent information about their b

Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread Maureen
I think it would be ok to say Michael Vick was convicted of animal cruelty..but that is not the way a current candidate would say it. They would say something like "A million animals were killed this week. Michael Vick supports animal cruelty". The distortion of the second example is what needs

Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread Scott Stroz
I don't care if I am running against a life long felon with a rap sheet a mile long, none of my television ads nor mailings should be allowed to mention them or anything they may have done. They should only be allowed to mention what I have done/will do in the position to which I am seeking to be

Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread Judah McAuley
If your opponent had pertinent information about their background, say Michael Vick runs for office and we think it is important to mention that he has an animal abuse background, should the opponent not get to mention that? Would you leave it to outside groups but not allow the candidate? Should

Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread Scott Stroz
I think that you should be banned from mentioning your opponent in any ads. I don't want to know about them, I wan tot know about you. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Maureen wrote: > > I've been advocating that for years. > > If a politician lies while campaigning, they should be removed from

Re: That was quick

2010-10-28 Thread Maureen
There is a lot of truth in this statement for me, but it's more that he was the anti-McCain. McCain sold out all his values and got in bed with the Religion Right to get elected, then picked Caribou Barbie as a running mate. Any candidate, even a dead skunk, would have been preferable to me than

Re: That was quick

2010-10-28 Thread Matthew Small
I think that Obama is trying to do exactly what he said he wanted to do. Unfortunately it's not what people really want *or* even the reason he was elected. He was elected as a reaction to a horrible eight years of GWB. People are hateful to Wall Street, he is the anti-Wall Street. People w

Re: That was quick

2010-10-28 Thread Matthew Small
>On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 3:29 PM, G Money wrote: >> > >> Are you saying that people are mad because he promised all kinds of >> unprecedented sweeping changes.and then couldn't wrap them all up in 2 >> shorts years, in time for the mid term elections? > >He promised change and hope, he ne

Re: Update on the Tea Party stomping...

2010-10-28 Thread Maureen
Yeah..I knew a lot about them. One was the ex of a family member. The other was a former neighbor. The first one was sentenced to 70 years to life for various crimes and died in prison. The second one was shot and killed fleeing arrest. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Sam wrote: > > I missed

Re: Update on the Tea Party stomping...

2010-10-28 Thread Sam
I missed the protestant part. So you knew a lot about these men. Do tell. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Sam wrote: > I was not laughing at you suffering, I found the claim humorous > because not only is it so far out there but you claimed it happened > more than once. > > > Why did they beat

Re: Update on the Tea Party stomping...

2010-10-28 Thread Sam
I was not laughing at you suffering, I found the claim humorous because not only is it so far out there but you claimed it happened more than once. Why did they beat you? How did you know they were republican? On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Maureen wrote: > > My "claim" was nothing more tha

Re: So, Do You Have a License for that Fat?

2010-10-28 Thread William Bowen
LOL. True. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Sam wrote: > > Ah, thanks for clearing that up. > > Information overload is getting worse, especially when anyone can > publish to Google news. > > > On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 5:41 PM, William Bowen > wrote: >> >>> Didn't they just say HFCS isn't bad e

Re: Update on the Tea Party stomping...

2010-10-28 Thread Jerry Johnson
Well, if he mentioned begging for it, then it obviously falls in the first meaning, believing there was an assault, which makes his statement only possible from a jerk. So I guess that solved that mystery. But I have to run. I got roped into putting together a puzzle tonight with a random old per

Re: So, Do You Have a License for that Fat?

2010-10-28 Thread Sam
Ah, thanks for clearing that up. Information overload is getting worse, especially when anyone can publish to Google news. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 5:41 PM, William Bowen wrote: > >> Didn't they just say HFCS isn't bad either? I won't believe them if they do. > > A (The?) High Fructose Corn Syr

Re: That was quick

2010-10-28 Thread Sam
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 5:42 PM, denstar wrote: > > The Tea Party has a lot of a lot of things.  Too many nutbags for my > taste though.  Which is a shame.  "Co-opted" comes to mind, as in to > take or assume for one's own use; appropriate. It's sad you see it that way but probably agree with J

Re: Update on the Tea Party stomping...

2010-10-28 Thread Maureen
My "claim" was nothing more than a statement of fact. I have been severely assaulted twice. Both times by men who were white, protestant and Republicans. Sam found my suffering funny, even accused me of begging for it. You can assume whatever you want. It doesn't change the facts. On Thu, Oc

Re: So, Do You Have a License for that Fat?

2010-10-28 Thread William Bowen
> Those guys have learned a lot from the tobacco lobby. Next they'll tell us it better 'cause "It's toasted" or maybe just "It's better than Olestra!" -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher

Re: Update on the Tea Party stomping...

2010-10-28 Thread Jerry Johnson
I cannot and will not speak for Sam, but I read that either as finding the beating funny, or finding your claim unreal and funny. Since I personally tend to try to go with the least annoying option whenever possible when reading into the statements of others, I assumed the latter. On Thu, Oct

Re: Update on the Tea Party stomping...

2010-10-28 Thread Sam
I explained that to you. It's too funny because: I can see you begging for the beating, but I just can't see a republican doing it. It's funny because it's so improbable you either: 1) made it up 2) really, really really begged for it 3) think union thugs with tea-party signs are republicans I

Re: So, Do You Have a License for that Fat?

2010-10-28 Thread Judah McAuley
"Not completely toxic" isn't quite the same thing as "good for you". I suppose it could count as good in the sense that the calories will help keep you alive if you are starving to death. Otherwise, I have a hard time seeing it as "good". And I'd once again point out that they are trying to rename

Re: That was quick

2010-10-28 Thread denstar
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Sam wrote: > On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 5:05 PM, denstar wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Sam wrote: >> ... >>> But you're not a lefty, you're in the middle. >> >> I find it hilarious that you think you are in the middle.  That the >> Tea Party represents th

Re: So, Do You Have a License for that Fat?

2010-10-28 Thread William Bowen
> Didn't they just say HFCS isn't bad either? I won't believe them if they do. A (The?) High Fructose Corn Syrup manufacturers association recently ran some ads that said HFCS is "good for you in moderation"... it becomes difficult to be moderate in one's consumption when it is in *everything* t

Re: Update on the Tea Party stomping...

2010-10-28 Thread Maureen
Sam to cf-community in the Bad NPR thread Oct 22 You get beat up by republicans? That's too funny. http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:32588#329706 On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Sam wrote: > > I did no such thing and you know it. > I mean the other you knows

Re: That was quick

2010-10-28 Thread Sam
I can proudly say you agree with him. That right there says it all. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > By the looks of your posts, I would say he is right on target. > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthol

Re: That was quick

2010-10-28 Thread Sam
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 5:05 PM, denstar wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Sam wrote: > ... >> But you're not a lefty, you're in the middle. > > I find it hilarious that you think you are in the middle.  That the > Tea Party represents the middle.  =) I never claim the middle, although

RE: That was quick

2010-10-28 Thread Eric Roberts
By the looks of your posts, I would say he is right on target. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:27 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: That was quick On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > I personally think t

Re: That was quick

2010-10-28 Thread denstar
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Sam wrote: ... > But you're not a lefty, you're in the middle. I find it hilarious that you think you are in the middle. That the Tea Party represents the middle. =) @G Money, props. @Mama, I wonder the same thing about a Bush-o-meter. :Den -- I maintain th

RE: That was quick

2010-10-28 Thread Sisk, Kris
>Oh? You think we should have elected someone who had experience as a US president? A little more experience at running things other than campaigns would have been nice. Don't get me wrong. He's still got a chance at my vote in 2012, and my votes on Tuesday are going to be pretty well split bet

RE: So, Do You Have a License for that Fat?

2010-10-28 Thread Eric Roberts
Carbs that are converted to sugars that aren't consumed by your body go to your liver which converts it to fat. The diabetic's enemy ;-) -Original Message- From: Casey Dougall [mailto:ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:22 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re:

Re: Update on the Tea Party stomping...

2010-10-28 Thread Sam
I did no such thing and you know it. I mean the other you knows it. About those meds... On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > just as much as your tin foil hat is on too tight. > > You chortled with glee because someone of an opposing political > ideology was assaulted. How

Re: That was quick

2010-10-28 Thread Sam
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 3:59 PM, G Money wrote: > > The national debt was already skyrocketing..and I don't recall him ever > saying he'd reduce the national debt by the mid term elections...? Nice that you threw in "by the mid term" $5 trillion is going to take a long time to pay off > Not me.

Re: That was quick

2010-10-28 Thread Maureen
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 1:14 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > Here's a list of promises (and where they stand).  It's up to > interpretation as far is if he can actually deliver.  I like this > breakdown. > http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/ So he has kept 122 promises, is working on

Re: That was quick

2010-10-28 Thread Sam
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > I personally think that even if Obama was the second coming of Lincoln _and_ > Reagan, balanced the budget, solved the financial crisis, brought peace to > the Middle East, and scored the winning goal against The Russians in Olympic > hock

Re: That was quick

2010-10-28 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> I'd be interested to see a list of the so-called promises. Did he > really promise changes he couldn't do, or has the pundit spin > introduced into media and blogosphere a lot claims of promises that he > really didn't make? Here's a list of promises (and where they stand). It's up to interpre

Re: That was quick

2010-10-28 Thread Sam
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 3:29 PM, G Money wrote: > > Are you saying that people are mad because he promised all kinds of > unprecedented sweeping changes.and then couldn't wrap them all up in 2 > shorts years, in time for the mid term elections? He promised change and hope, he never said

Re: That was quick

2010-10-28 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> Are you saying that people are mad because he promised all kinds of > unprecedented sweeping changes.and then couldn't wrap them all up in 2 > shorts years, in time for the mid term elections? It's not that he couldn't deliver them - it's that he DID NOT deliver them. There were a coup

Re: Update on the Tea Party stomping...

2010-10-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
just as much as your tin foil hat is on too tight. You chortled with glee because someone of an opposing political ideology was assaulted. How different is that from what the brownshirts did? Right now its only a matter of degree from what I've seen of your behavior. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 4:03

Re: That was quick

2010-10-28 Thread Maureen
Agree on the partisan stuff. Rahm Emanuel is gone. Resigned to run for mayor of Chicago. Now if he would dump Eric Holder, I'd be a happy camper. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > I think that 25% is still hoping for him to drop the partisan bullshit, and > people like

Re: Update on the Tea Party stomping...

2010-10-28 Thread Sam
Are you off your meds again? On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > I was talking about you. Your joking and glee at the assault is pure > brownshirt behavior. That's the amazing thing - your blatent condoning > of a physical assault simply because you disagreed with her. Wh

Re: Update on the Tea Party stomping...

2010-10-28 Thread G Money
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Medic wrote: > > > > > Kristallnacht 2012? > > > > Worst.Concert.Ever. > Kristallnacht (the real one) was obviously awfulan evil event that was a harbinger for many evil events to come.but that being said, it cannot be denied that "Kristallnacht" is a ri

Re: That was quick

2010-10-28 Thread Maureen
I'd be interested to see a list of the so-called promises. Did he really promise changes he couldn't do, or has the pundit spin introduced into media and blogosphere a lot claims of promises that he really didn't make? His opposition has taken his campaign slogan of hope and change, and turned it

Re: That was quick

2010-10-28 Thread G Money
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > > At any rate, near as the American > public can see, he's not even trying to implement those changes. There's > more corruption on Capitol Hill being reported than ever, There is? Source please. > the national > debt is skyrocketing, T

Re: That was quick

2010-10-28 Thread Jerry Johnson
I personally think that even if Obama was the second coming of Lincoln _and_ Reagan, balanced the budget, solved the financial crisis, brought peace to the Middle East, and scored the winning goal against The Russians in Olympic hockey, 40% of the electorate would still be against him. And regardl

Re: Update on the Tea Party stomping...

2010-10-28 Thread Medic
> > Kristallnacht 2012? > Worst.Concert.Ever. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-commu

Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread Maureen
I've been advocating that for years. If a politician lies while campaigning, they should be removed from the ballot. All campaign ads should be vetted for truth and absence of spin and disinformation before being allowed on the air. If they lie after elected, they should be removed from office.

Re: Update on the Tea Party stomping...

2010-10-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I was talking about you. Your joking and glee at the assault is pure brownshirt behavior. That's the amazing thing - your blatent condoning of a physical assault simply because you disagreed with her. What's next for you Kristallnacht 2012? On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Sam wrote: > > When di

RE: That was quick

2010-10-28 Thread Sisk, Kris
He got elected by promising the kind of changes that aren't even really possible for the President to do. I'm surprised more people didn't realize that before the election. At any rate, near as the American public can see, he's not even trying to implement those changes. There's more corruption on

Re: Update on the Tea Party stomping...

2010-10-28 Thread Sam
When did you complain about Gladney? Got to love the selective outrage. BTW, nobody said the guy was right to step on her. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > And that gives those brownshirts an excuse for assault? > > Simply amazing > ~

Re: That was quick

2010-10-28 Thread denstar
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 1:29 PM, G Money wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > >> >> That's not history being kind. That's people realizing that Obama made a >> ton of promises that he either can't or won't fulfill. We've come to >> expect that from politicians, but few o

Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> I would love to see an obsessively honest and fair group emerge, whose only > driving purpose is truth and impartiality, like a modern priesthood of > truth. > > Then turn those folk loose on politicians. Anyone found lying would be > instantly disqualified from office. > > A. C'mon, imagine

Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread G Money
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > Yeah, they both are lying sacks of excrement. > > How does that help me, again? > > I would love to see an obsessively honest and fair group emerge, whose only > driving purpose is truth and impartiality, like a modern priesthood of > tru

Re: That was quick

2010-10-28 Thread G Money
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > > That's not history being kind. That's people realizing that Obama made a > ton of promises that he either can't or won't fulfill. We've come to > expect that from politicians, but few of them have promised the kinds of > sweeping changes Oba

Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread Jerry Johnson
Yeah, they both are lying sacks of excrement. How does that help me, again? I would love to see an obsessively honest and fair group emerge, whose only driving purpose is truth and impartiality, like a modern priesthood of truth. Then turn those folk loose on politicians. Anyone found lying wou

Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread denstar
I think that saying the two parties are basically the same is a false equivalence. It's a way of excusing actions that really are a little more lame than other actions. It sucks that there are "sides" to things, but here we are. Forced to choose. And like Rush says, even not making a choice is

RE: That was quick

2010-10-28 Thread Sisk, Kris
That's not history being kind. That's people realizing that Obama made a ton of promises that he either can't or won't fulfill. We've come to expect that from politicians, but few of them have promised the kinds of sweeping changes Obama did. Anyway, unfulfilled promises plus really not a very goo

Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread G Money
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:19 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > > This paragraph sums the entire article up for me nicely: > "Republicans accused Democrats of favoring cuts in Medicare benefits, > while Democrats claimed their opponents would cut Social Security > benefits. Republicans accused Democ

Re: FactCheck.org Campaign Whoppers of 2010

2010-10-28 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
This paragraph sums the entire article up for me nicely: "Republicans accused Democrats of favoring cuts in Medicare benefits, while Democrats claimed their opponents would cut Social Security benefits. Republicans accused Democrats of planning to unleash a huge tax increase on ordinary families a

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