How about this:
We should change the laws so you need EXACTLY the same ID and background
check and non-felon history to
Vote
Buy a gun
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If that's it and we undo all the other dumb shit like class 3 laws and
capacity laws, and require JUDICIAL due process for incompetancy decisions.
And recognize constitutional concealed carry nationwide.
On Apr 11, 2013 10:06 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson jmi...@gmail.com wrote:
How about this:
We
See, now you are adding unneeded complications. Are you a natural
legislator?
Keep it simple.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:09 AM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:
If that's it and we undo all the other dumb shit like class 3 laws and
capacity laws, and require JUDICIAL due process for
These are real questions current law fails to address.
As an enumerated incorperated right of man that shall not be infringed?
I know you know Apr 19th is coming just like I do. Aubrey was killed by a
german u boat in the north atlantic, all enemies foriegn and domestic.
Dont even get me
My government has become my enemy
We're at war and Ft. Bragg just had to cancel their july 4th stuff due to
budget cuts, along with a laundry list of base services.
But DOS is sending more money to anti-American egyptians and Syrian rebels
with ties to al queda.
An ATF agent laid his hands on
Sure, if these are issues, they should be addressed.
Separately.
As we all know as developers, the only way to make progress is a steady
stream of simple tasks completed, building towards a goal.
Successive approximations.
Unfortunately, we try to legislate by huge, complex, massive,
You mean like prohibitions on free speech? such as not yelling fire in
theaters? Or the classic case of fighting words? If you can have reasonable
restrictions on rights even more fundamental than the right to bear your
own machine gun with armour piercing bullets, I cannot see why you cannot
How many software projects fa il again?
This isn't a bussiness process, no compromise!
On Apr 11, 2013 10:28 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson jmi...@gmail.com wrote:
Sure, if these are issues, they should be addressed.
Separately.
As we all know as developers, the only way to make progress is a
I agree, reasonable, and what I outlined is reasonable.
To which part do you object?
On Apr 11, 2013 10:30 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote:
You mean like prohibitions on free speech? such as not yelling fire in
theaters? Or the classic case of fighting words? If you can have
FWIW, that sounds a little batshit crazy.
Truthfully, I suspect that the huge support for background checks is a
combination of people thinking it is a reasonable, practical, possibly
effective step to curb the unacceptable gun violence in the country at the
moment.
But I also suspect it is
Words and actions are different
That is protected speech
Dissent
Its not crazy when they're at your house.
On Apr 11, 2013 10:41 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson jmi...@gmail.com wrote:
FWIW, that sounds a little batshit crazy.
Truthfully, I suspect that the huge support for background checks is a
You want the straight up truth
I'd rather die a martyr than have to fire on another american.
Ive had the toughest times of my life and I haven't hurt anyone and I
haven't used and that in and of itself shows who I am
I want them to feel what ive felt
Doing what ive done.
And coming
How are you still willing to trust them with anything?
On Apr 11, 2013 10:49 AM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:
You want the straight up truth
I'd rather die a martyr than have to fire on another american.
Ive had the toughest times of my life and I haven't hurt anyone and I
haven't
Who is them?
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:55 AM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:
How are you still willing to trust them with anything?
On Apr 11, 2013 10:49 AM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:
You want the straight up truth
I'd rather die a martyr than have to fire on another
The government.
If you do this they will tie the national health, criminal, gun, shopping,
Facebook, cellphone database all together and liberty is dead.
They could make you a felon right now today and take everything you own.
Hell just call it eminent domain.
Are you honestly missing the big
thanks for the time sink!
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dammit I need the last 20 minutes back!!!
:-)
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson jmi...@gmail.com
wrote:
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This wouldn't be the first dumb thing Joe Barton has said either.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/republican-congressman-cites-biblical-great-flood-to-say-cim
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my coworker just commented that the great flood was in fact caused by man :)
On Apr 11, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Marlon Moyer marlon.mo...@gmail.com wrote:
This wouldn't be the first dumb thing Joe Barton has said either.
So you don't believe there was a great flood way back when?
.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Marlon Moyer marlon.mo...@gmail.comwrote:
This wouldn't be the first dumb thing Joe Barton has said either.
I'm sure there were floods, but not of the type described in the bible.
On Apr 11, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
So you don't believe there was a great flood way back when?
.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Marlon Moyer marlon.mo...@gmail.comwrote:
This
I believe it is very likely that there were floods of great scale in our
planet's history.
However, I do not believe that every living non-human creature on the
planet survived because one man and his family (who also survived) built a
boat to hold all the animals and whatever food they would
I was asking if there was a massive flood, not for the details.
If there was a great flood around that time I'd say it was caused by
factory exhaust.
.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote:
I believe it is very likely that there were floods of great scale in
I'd say it was NOT caused by factory exhaust.
.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
I was asking if there was a massive flood, not for the details.
If there was a great flood around that time I'd say it was caused by
factory exhaust.
.
On Thu, Apr 11,
How are you still willing to trust them with anything?
At this point, anyone who trusts the government is either a fool or a
beneficiary of its largess.
There is no compromise on trust. You can't argue that government is
trustworthy in some areas. If it is untrustworthy anywhere, it fails.
J
I'm both and I know better
On Apr 11, 2013 1:30 PM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote:
How are you still willing to trust them with anything?
At this point, anyone who trusts the government is either a fool or a
beneficiary of its largess.
There is no compromise on trust. You
I'm both and I know better
Good one.
J
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If you do this they will tie the national health, criminal, gun,
shopping, Facebook,
cellphone database all together and liberty is dead.
This is well underway. The federal government loves facebook, particularly
the FBI (
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If he was a comedian, this would be one of the best bits ever.
Hilarious.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Marlon Moyer marlon.mo...@gmail.comwrote:
my coworker just commented that the great flood was in fact caused by man
:)
On Apr 11, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Marlon Moyer
Evidence Noah's Biblical Flood Happened, Says Robert Ballard
The story of Noah's Ark and the Great Flood is one of the most famous from
the Bible, and now an acclaimed underwater archaeologist thinks he has
found proof that the biblical flood was actually based on real events.
Where I live in
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
The story of Noah's Ark and the Great Flood is one of the most famous
from the Bible, and now an acclaimed underwater archaeologist thinks he
has found proof that the biblical flood was actually based on real events.
Not surprising in the
That's your rebuttal? A boxing reporter disagreeing in an article for a
cable channel?
Do I really need to waste time pointing out how poor his argument is?
.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.comwrote:
You know that sounds almost clinically paranoid.
btw you forgot to tie in fluoridation, black helicopters and the FEMA
relocation camps.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 11:02 AM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:
The government.
If you do this they will tie the national health, criminal, gun,
I read about that yesterday but decided not to post, after all there have
been those who have complained about my posting Leftie stuff.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Marlon Moyer marlon.mo...@gmail.comwrote:
This wouldn't be the first dumb thing Joe Barton has said either.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_deluge_hypothesis
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Marlon Moyer marlon.mo...@gmail.comwrote:
I'm sure there were floods, but not of the type described in the bible.
On Apr 11, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
So you don't believe
I'd like to know how all those animals from Australia, New Zealand and the
Galapagos Islands were able to get to the Middle East so fast and then back
again.
And where did all that extra water go?
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote:
I believe it is very
All you have to do to know why Barton doesn't believe in climate change is
to look at his campaign contributors. They pay him to be this ignorant.
http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cid=N5656cycle=2012
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Marlon Moyer
Yeah sound ceazy if it weren't true huh?
On Apr 11, 2013 2:42 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote:
You know that sounds almost clinically paranoid.
btw you forgot to tie in fluoridation, black helicopters and the FEMA
relocation camps.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 11:02 AM, LRS
Something definitely happened. Every single mythology has a flood story.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Marlon Moyer marlon.mo...@gmail.comwrote:
I'm sure there were floods, but not of the type described in the bible.
The real fascinating part of it is during Ballard's exploration of the
Black Sea's dead zone (a region where there is no oxygen etc). they found
evidence of houses and villages and other signs of human habitation.
So its possible that Noah's Arc is just a cultural memory of that event.
Mind you
As usual, you aren't debunking, simply insulting. If you actually have any
proof the argument is poor, present it.
And boxing reporter? Where did you come up with that?
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
That's your rebuttal? A boxing reporter disagreeing in
Not every mythology, mainly those originating in the Middle East.. The
Chinese don't for instance, nor does the Norse mythos if I remember
correctly.. How much of these flood myths are due to cultural diffusion
rather than actual experience is another issue with using multiple
culture's mythos as
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 7:09 AM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:
If that's it and we undo all the other dumb shit like class 3 laws and
capacity laws, and require JUDICIAL due process for incompetency decisions.
I agree with judicial review for incompetency decisions. No bureaucrat
Sam does read if the item in question goes against his ideological biases
haven't you noticed?
I think that is a fundamental difference between those on the left and
right wings. Those on the left at least can handle nuanced logic that
requires thinking.
correction
Sam rarely reads something if it goes against his ideology.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.comwrote:
Sam does read if the item in question goes against his ideological biases
haven't you noticed?
I think that is a fundamental difference between
I think that one is right beside arming bears - although frankly I don't
think that bears need the extra help. At least it bears some more thinking.
The alternative is unbearable.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 7:09 AM, LRS Scout
bear with me on this one.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.comwrote:
I think that one is right beside arming bears - although frankly I don't
think that bears need the extra help. At least it bears some more thinking.
The alternative is unbearable.
On
Problem not solved, because even if someone legally buys a gun, if they
fail to keep said weapon from the hands of those who are not allowed to own
a guy, having the law is pointless. Frankly, if someone owns a gun, and
lets a either a child or a mentally ill family member have access to it,
the
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
Sam rarely reads something if it goes against his ideology
Sam has been successfully trolling you for years now. It's not about
reading anything, it's about him getting a rise out of you.
-Cameron
..
It goes both ways Cam - I think I get more of an emotional response out of
him.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.comwrote:
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
Sam rarely reads something if it goes against his ideology
Sam has been
And here I'm thinking you have to be ignorant to still believe the religion
of global warming.
.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote:
All you have to do to know why Barton doesn't believe in climate change is
to look at his campaign contributors. They pay
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
It goes both ways Cam - I think I get more of an emotional response out
of him.
That is a strange use of time.
-Cameron
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I didn't debunk, I asked if I really had to waste my time with something
even a child can see as a flawed argument
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I believe what scientific study suggests is the most likely. Sam, when you
present me with a CONSENSUS scientific set of conclusions that suggest the
most likely scenario is that increased global warming is NOT human
caused...I will gladly agree with you.
Can you do that?
My devotion is not
Its been a hobby of mine, pissing off the more rigid minded conservatives.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.comwrote:
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
It goes both ways Cam - I think I get more of an emotional response out
of him.
Why Cam? Did I hurt your feelings pointing out how silly you've been all
these years backing Al Gore and Larry's flawed theories?
When you side with Larry as often as you do you really need to do some
self evaluation of who the troll is before labeling others.
You really have moved to extreme
As soon as you define scientific consensus.
.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:20 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote:
I believe what scientific study suggests is the most likely. Sam, when you
present me with a CONSENSUS scientific set of conclusions that suggest the
most likely scenario is
Yawn.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
Why Cam? Did I hurt your feelings pointing out how silly you've been all
these years backing Al Gore and Larry's flawed theories?
When you side with Larry as often as you do you really need to do some
self evaluation of
Obviously not a complete solution to the problem of gun violence, mental
health, voter fraud, election fixing and suppression, honey bee dieoffs, or
the cost of gasoline.
but, in this case, you have a large group advocating for increased ID and
proof for exercising a right, and another group
The majority of respected scientific study. The breadth of knowledge. The
hypothesis with most supporting evidence through research and study.
How else would anyone define it??? Pretty simple concept really.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
As soon as you
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_consensus
Scientific consensus is not by itself a scientific argument, and it is not
part of the scientific methodhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method
.
Global Warming Consensus Looking More Like A Myth
Read More At Investor's Business Daily:
Cam and I have sided with the scientific consensus, as we understand it.
Larry has no bearing on our feelings re: Global Warming.
Present us proof that our understanding of the current scientific consensus
is wrong, and we'll happily and humbly agree with you.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 2:28 PM,
I'd say bear and not infringed
On Apr 11, 2013 3:09 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote:
I think that one is right beside arming bears - although frankly I don't
think that bears need the extra help. At least it bears some more thinking.
The alternative is unbearable.
On Thu,
Hey, why'd you cut off the last line of that first paragraph?? Here, i'll
add it back in for ya:
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
Scientific consensus is not by itself a scientific argument, and it is not
part of the scientific method.
Nevertheless, consensus
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:55 PM, GMoney wrote:
Cam and I have sided with the scientific consensus, as we understand it.
Larry has no bearing on our feelings re: Global Warming.
Present us proof that our understanding of the current scientific
consensus is wrong, and we'll happily and humbly
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.comwrote:
I can get behind this description of my position. However, I don't expect
that proof to become available in general anytime in the very near future.
And if it does, I'm likely to find out about it outside of Sam's
So wait, your hostile to skeptics too?
That's not good.
.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:55 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote:
Cam and I have sided with the scientific consensus, as we understand it.
Larry has no bearing on our feelings re: Global Warming.
Present us proof that our
So what is a consensus? A majority? A plurality? A large group?
39%?
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/021513-644725-geoscientists-engineers-dont-believe-in-climate-change.htm
The global warming alarmists repeat the line endlessly. They claim that
there is a consensus among scientists
I didn't think i was hostile to anyone..? I'm a pretty mellow fellow,
for the most part.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
So wait, your hostile to skeptics too?
That's not good.
.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:55 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote:
Unfortunately, when discussing the scientific community as a whole and it's
consensus, we can't just confining the question to geoscientists and
engineers, which is the basis for this entire article.
I know you can show me a few studies, or point to a few articles that
question this group or
Sounds like scope creep.
Why don't you provide the proof there's a majority and I can work back from
there.
.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 4:19 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote:
Unfortunately, when discussing the scientific community as a whole and it's
consensus, we can't just confining
that is the essence of science. Provide multiple reliable and demonstrable
data across different studies that contradict the theory then the theory is
rejected. 13926 studies plus is a lot of studies to overcome.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:55 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote:
Cam and I
that's pretty close to the definitions I learned.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:50 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote:
The majority of respected scientific study. The breadth of knowledge. The
hypothesis with most supporting evidence through research and study.
How else would anyone define
how is a rag for business a scientific peer reviewed journal? You'll have
to do better than that Sam.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_consensus
Scientific consensus is not by itself a scientific argument, and it is not
My favourite link on the topic:
http://www.desmogblog.com/2012/11/15/why-climate-deniers-have-no-credibility-science-one-pie-chart
13926 studies support human caused climate change vs. 24.
That's a pretty good definition of scientific consensus.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 4:19 PM, GMoney
Meant to say
That's a pretty good example of scientific consensus.
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On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Sam wrote:
Why don't you provide the proof there's a majority and I can work back
from there.
No, you must first bring me a shrubbery!
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On Apr 11, 2013 5:27 PM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Sam wrote:
Why don't you provide the proof there's a majority and I can work back
from there.
No, you must first bring me a shrubbery!
-Cameron
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On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 6:26 PM, sarah mfr sohairz...@yahoo.com wrote:
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I believe what scientific study suggests is the most likely. Sam,
when you present
me with a CONSENSUS scientific set of conclusions that suggest the
most likely scenario is that increased global warming is NOT human caused...I
will gladly agree with you.
Wow. There is an assumption that
I personally debunked that here just the other day. I gave you the first
forty listed and you couldn't find one that supported AGC. That's pretty
sad.
.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.comwrote:
My favourite link on the topic:
I don't see an constitutional right for concealed carry. Can you point me to
some information?
I don't see a constitutional precedent to differentiate between concealed
and open. It should be carry an way you want.
J
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Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad
But It's not a definition, and it's not science. It's like saying I asked
five people and most said ...
Show me the current list.
.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.comwrote:
that's pretty close to the definitions I learned.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:50
That's basically the argument.
Beat and not infringed all at once.
On Apr 11, 2013 9:48 PM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't see an constitutional right for concealed carry. Can you point
me to
some information?
I don't see a constitutional precedent to differentiate
Bear
On Apr 11, 2013 9:52 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:
That's basically the argument.
Beat and not infringed all at once.
On Apr 11, 2013 9:48 PM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't see an constitutional right for concealed carry. Can you point
me to
some
Bear? Where? Run for your life
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On Apr 11, 2013, at 8:53 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:
Bear
On Apr 11, 2013 9:52 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:
That's basically the argument.
Beat and not infringed all at once.
On Apr 11, 2013 9:48 PM, Jerry
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