state if the union speech.
>Seriously.
>
>Some people were escorted out of a PRIVATE event.
>
>The SS arrested them fro breaking the law.
>
>WOW. Get over it.
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On 4/20/06, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think they are, and I think they would love to make it an RFID card
> with your criminal and medical history on it.
>
> BTW I have several federal
On 4/20/06, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think they are, and I think they would love to make it an RFID card with
> your criminal and medical history on it.
>
> BTW I have several federally issued IDs that aren't a passport. Of course I
> volunteered to do the things for which they are is
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> > > > > So then explain why picture
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Oh boo hoo. Let's get some perspective here:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/267047_china18.html?source=rss
On 4/19/06, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> aren't
> > > > > So then explain why picture IDs are a bad thing :)
> > > > >
> > > > They aren't.
> > > >
> > > They are a means for the federal government to track your whereabouts,
> > > the main reason I will always be against any kind of federal ID.
> >
> > Don't like passports, then?
>
> I don't nee
Oh boo hoo. Let's get some perspective here:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/267047_china18.html?source=rss
On 4/19/06, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> aren't there enought stories like this one floating around:
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A9703-2004Sep
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> i was referring to protest
> tBone wrote:
> We all know that neo-cons are just dressed up big government liberals, in
> better suits.
And ... who don't like s3x. Don't forget that part.
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i was referring to protesters.
On 4/19/06, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Bush detains
> Bush detains killers and terrorists.
>
> You don't see Michael Moore in gitmo, now do you?
No, but I'd paid to. I'd like to see him try to go on a hunger strike.
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> every time I see this subject line:
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every time I see this subject line:
"Chavez Blacklists Critics", I think yea, but "Bush Detains Critics"
--
America spells competition, join us in our blind ambition get yourself a
brand new motor car.
And s
every time I see this subject line:
"Chavez Blacklists Critics", I think yea, but "Bush Detains Critics"
--
America spells competition, join us in our blind ambition
get yourself a brand new motor car.
And someday soon we'll stop to ponder
what on earth's this spell
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> They are a means for the federal government to track your whereabouts,
> the main reason I will always be against any kind of federal ID.
Don't
> They are a means for the federal government to track your whereabouts, the
> main reason I will always be against any kind of federal ID.
Don't like passports, then?
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Picture id, not federal ID. Like the one needed to get on a plane. I
noticed in many states, besides NY, you need a picture ID to use a
credit card.
On 4/19/06, Loathe wrote:
> I disagree.
>
> They are a means for the federal government to track your whereabouts, the
> main reason I will always b
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> So then explain why picture IDs are a bad thing :)
They aren't.
And Rush saying Democrats saying they are doesn't make it so.
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> So how about that Diebold huh?
don't worry about it Viv; see, according to Sam a Republican CEO can
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200604/POL20060418b.html
Democrats Will Appeal Ruling on Indiana's Voter ID Law
By Susan Jones
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April 18, 2006
(CNSNews.com) - A federal court has upheld an Indiana law requiring
people to show a government-is
It's a conspiracy a giant conspiracy.
For once take your fukin head out of your ass and look around.
Did he say:
"everything in his power" to secure said re-election."
or: "I am committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the
president next year. " This was a republican fund raising l
> So then explain why picture IDs are a bad thing :)
They aren't.
And Rush saying Democrats saying they are doesn't make it so.
--
will
"If my life weren't funny, it would just be true;
and that would just be unacceptable."
- Carrie Fisher
~~
> So how about that Diebold huh?
don't worry about it Viv; see, according to Sam a Republican CEO can
publicly proclaim his company's support for a Republican re-election
campaign, pledging to do "everything in his power" to secure said
re-election.
Now apparently despite the company's best effor
So then explain why picture IDs are a bad thing :)
On 4/19/06, Dana Tierney wrote:
> why do you keep quoting Rush at me when you know I have no respect for the
> man? It definitely doesn't prove anything.
>
> >"For crying out loud: you can't go anywhere anymore without a photo
> >ID, but for some
So how about that Diebold huh?
On 4/19/06, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "For crying out loud: you can't go anywhere anymore without a photo
> ID, but for some reason you ought to be able to vote for a Democrat
> without one."
~~~
I understand it -- looked into it quite carefully at one point. It doesn't
address the fundamental issue however. More on this later, have another
deadline.
>> Dana wrote:
>> I am, actually.
>>
>
>Then you don't understand it. SOX won't prevent all of the problems
>that go along with capitalism
why do you keep quoting Rush at me when you know I have no respect for the man?
It definitely doesn't prove anything.
>"For crying out loud: you can't go anywhere anymore without a photo
>ID, but for some reason you ought to be able to vote for a Democrat
>without one."
>
>"Indiana's Republican m
"For crying out loud: you can't go anywhere anymore without a photo
ID, but for some reason you ought to be able to vote for a Democrat
without one."
"Indiana's Republican majority legislature passed a law requiring
photo ID at the polls last year as part of an effort to reduce voter
fraud, but th
Wow, we agree again.
On 4/19/06, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On the whole, corporations are the best thing to happen to world since
> democracy. They employ millions and provide them with good paying
> jobs that work around their private lives and give them a ladder to
> climb.
>
> Dana wrote:
> I am, actually.
>
Then you don't understand it. SOX won't prevent all of the problems
that go along with capitalism, but helps. The whole "corporations are
evil" argument is ridiculous. It's like saying New Mexico is evil
because there's a guy who knocked over a liquor store, or
I am, actually.
>apparently you are not acquainted with the hell that is Sarbanes-Oxley.
>
>On 4/18/06, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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apparently you are not acquainted with the hell that is Sarbanes-Oxley.
On 4/18/06, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> strict financial dislosure rules? Multinational corporations? What the
> hell are you smoking?
>
> >I don't agree with nationalization, though. I would have a responsible
wait a minute. What debacle are we speaking of please?
>This is part of the issue that led to the debacle the other night.
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strict financial dislosure rules? Multinational corporations? What the hell are
you smoking?
>I don't agree with nationalization, though. I would have a responsible
>foreign entity partner with Venezuelan firms- someone like BP, Exxon, etc.
>that has strict financial disclosure rules they have to
> Vivec wrote:
> I don't see the Nationalisation of enterprises which utilise the
> countries non - renewable resources to be a bad thing.
>
This is part of the utopian fantasy and willful ignorance that is socialism.
Nationalism is simply the most inefficient and unfair use of
resources. The wi
Having known some of the people who owned all that stuff, I have to say they
brought it on themselves. Just as in the rest of Latin America (including
Mexico) a handful of elites have controlled the country and hoarded all the
wealth for themselves.
I don't agree with nationalization, though. I wo
I thought you were saying it was a double standard to criticize Chavez and
not Bush. All I am saying is that it is ok to criticize or praise anyone you
like. That's all.
Sorry, I don't know much about Christian attitudes. I didn't understand why
work was so empty on Friday until someone pointed ou
I am not talking about the Electoral College. I am in favor of the Electoral
College.
I have major questions about the integrity of the last two elections and
perhaps even the preceding ones too, who knows... I am definitely worried about
the next one. I was very glad that New Mexico went back
admit you'd be sad if I didn't argue with you :) Actually, apart from a couple
of issues, you and I often agree though.
But that wasn't a threat, merely a musing on time-management and
serenity-preservation :)
> Oo, do it! That'll show us.
> That's a rather simplistic view of it, considering there are many,
> many factors that led to the rise of the US as a Superpower that has
> nothing to do with its choice of system of government or economy.
>
> Your statement about 'when venezuela's economy needs a recorrect' is
> again total spec
That's a rather simplistic view of it, considering there are many,
many factors that led to the rise of the US as a Superpower that has
nothing to do with its choice of system of government or economy.
Your statement about 'when venezuela's economy needs a recorrect' is
again total speculation.
A
> The failure of the Bush Economy has been described in several
> financial reports and is happening CURRENTLY.The projected failure is
> also based on this current negative economic status and the present
> ongoing war in Iraq, and possibly elsewhere soon if one is to believe
> the rhetoric from t
Great to hear *chuckle*
You really need to see someone about your aggression by the way, and
I'm being serious.
Cheers.
On 4/18/06, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wrong answer bubba.
>
> First, don't tell me what I think. Good way to start a fight.
>
> Second, I don't support state ownership
Chavez has not shown himself to be unstable at all.More disparaging
remarks and propaganda with absolutely no substance.
The failure of the Bush Economy has been described in several
financial reports and is happening CURRENTLY.The projected failure is
also based on this current negative economic
will never agree on,
and I'm done with this now.
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>I don't see the Nationalisation of enterprises which utilise the
> countries non - renewable resources to be a bad thing.
And that's your first problem.
> Those 'private industries' were not owned by venezuelans, and they
> were not acting in the intersts of venezuela. A lot of them got their
>
I don't see the Nationalisation of enterprises which utilise the
countries non - renewable resources to be a bad thing.
Those 'private industries' were not owned by venezuelans, and they
were not acting in the intersts of venezuela. A lot of them got their
holdings under suspicious circumstances f
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And when that happens we'll say you are right.
But until then it isn't happening, the country is experiencing record g
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Am I ripping? Thought I was the one saying live
election, big deal, most
presidents don't.
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> because we already spend a huge amount of bandwidth on Venezuala? I may
> have to quit reading at the archives and go back to email, just so I can
> set filters. I don't understand the obsession with Venezuela. I am
> beginning to wonder if they are in line behind Iran; the net country to be
> Dana wrote:
> I may have to quit reading at the archives and go back to email, just so I
> can set filters.
Oo, do it! That'll show us.
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And when that happens we'll say you are right.
But until then it isn't happening, the country is experiencing record
growth and he is reversing a lot of the harm which has been done by
previous regimes.
All you have to back your claims are propaganda and speculation.
And yes, I am quite aware tha
Am I ripping? Thought I was the one saying live and let live. Used ot be
considered a Christian attitude, once upon a time.
>no double standard. you are free to rip away. because we live in a free
>country. ;-)
>
>On 4/17/06, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>--
>---
>Robert
no double standard. you are free to rip away. because we live in a free
country. ;-)
On 4/17/06, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I am not surprised by much any more. But for me the key word is, they
> *elected* him. If I am supposed to back off GW because he was allegedly
> elected, wh
I am not surprised by much any more. But for me the key word is, they *elected*
him. If I am supposed to back off GW because he was allegedly elected, why does
this not apply to Chavez, hmm? There seems to me a double standard there.
>We spend a lot of time on Venezuela because it is a country h
We spend a lot of time on Venezuela because it is a country heading toward
Castro-style socialism, which by the way has done nothing less than leave
Cuba frozen in time. The Venezuelans elected Chavez, and when he decides to
just rip up the Constitution and become dictator for life a-la Castro, no
we are a nation of jaded constituents hell bent on change, and
progress, yet thoroughly unimpressed with the lot of candidates that
rise to the top of their party totem pole, and offer us nothing new
and everything old and wrong.
as a nation we are simply fed up and have a hard time believing
ANYT
mm. Stop hey what's that sound...
Actually if you are finding the world surprising you are rather lucky. Lately
it seems to me to be the same old shit repackaged, especially the news. God, I
can't even call it that without retching.
My problem is that I've bene lied to so much and so often tha
I'm surprised you feel this way Dana, but I've been surprised by a lot of
things lately.
Tim
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because we already spend a huge amount of bandwidth on Venezuala? I may have to
quit reading at the archives and go back to email, just so I can set filters. I
don't understand the obsession with Venezuela. I am beginning to wonder if they
are in line behind Iran; the net country to be The Enemy
generally will, you are a lot closer
to him than we are.
Tim
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> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 9:27 PM
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>
>
> *chuckle*
> Sounds like B
*chuckle*
Sounds like Bush launching vendettas and
authorising the release of people's names to the press.
Whatever happened to that Libby guy anyway?
On 4/17/06, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Chavez's Blacklist of Venezuelan Opposition Intimidates Voters
>
> April 17 (Bloomberg) -- In
Chavez's Blacklist of Venezuelan Opposition Intimidates Voters
April 17 (Bloomberg) -- In the two years since she signed a petition
that forced a recall vote on President Hugo Chavez, Venezuelan lawyer
Rocio San Miguel says she lost her government job, colleagues became
afraid to talk to her, and
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