Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-22 Thread Sam
Speaking of Macs: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/10/macbook-air-teardown/ On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:44 PM, denstar wrote: > > I leverage that buffer exploit to gain root, and promptly delete all patents. > > Woohoo!  (stolen from Fight Club.) > > -- > When marrying, ask yourself this

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-22 Thread denstar
I leverage that buffer exploit to gain root, and promptly delete all patents. Woohoo! (stolen from Fight Club.) -- When marrying, ask yourself this question: Do you believe that you will be able to converse well with this person into your old age? Everything else in marriage is transitory. Fri

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-22 Thread Cameron Childress
Buffer overrun. On Oct 22, 2010, at 11:55 AM, denstar wrote: > > *1 > > :Den > > -- > What? You seek something? You wish to multiply yourself tenfold, a > hundredfold? You seek followers? Seek zeros! > Friedrich Nietzsche > > On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 7:06 AM, Ras Tafari wr

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-22 Thread denstar
*1 :Den -- What? You seek something? You wish to multiply yourself tenfold, a hundredfold? You seek followers? Seek zeros! Friedrich Nietzsche On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 7:06 AM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > +10 > > On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Sisk, Kris wrote: >> >> I k

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-22 Thread Ras Tafari
+10 On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > > I keep hoping that the patent office will wake up and realize that > software patents are a bad idea. Some of the ones floating out there are > just ludicrous. For instance, Microsoft has a patent on deleting > files...That's

RE: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-22 Thread Sisk, Kris
broad the things are. Right now it's basically impossible to create a new video codec without violating some patent. -Original Message- From: denstar [mailto:valliants...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 6:03 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Facetime for Mac... Thankfully, Ap

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread denstar
10-4! Keep the light on, I'll be a bit! :Den -- We love life, not because we are used to living but because we are used to loving. Friedrich Nietzsche On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > Hey D can you pick up some milk on the way home. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Oc

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
Hey D can you pick up some milk on the way home. Sent from my iPad On Oct 21, 2010, at 5:03 PM, denstar wrote: > > Life is a trip man. =) > > :Den > > -- > We have art in order not to die of the truth. > Friedrich Nietzsche > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Sam wrote: >> >> Wait a se

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread denstar
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > The problem is, right now, Apple does not let you install third party > flavors of Java, you have to use the one they supply. Thankfully, Apple isn't *that* powerful. *Yet*. That is a big *yet* tho. Some of these patents Apple is filing f

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Scott Stroz
oz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:50 AM >> To: cf-community >> Subject: Re: Facetime for Mac... >> >> >> If you use ColdFusion Builder, or anything Eclipse based, you may need >> to switch your OS in the future. >> >>

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread denstar
Life is a trip man. =) :Den -- We have art in order not to die of the truth. Friedrich Nietzsche On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Sam wrote: > > Wait a second... > I thought you both lived and worked together. > > Damn mystery is a mystery again. ~

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
I did have to go to the apple store to buy it first... On Oct 21, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > you can install iLife now? > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox > wrote: >> >> I just installed iLife 11 so I can't say for sure that the steps are the >> same, but

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Ras Tafari
you can install iLife now? On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > I just installed iLife 11 so I can't say for sure that the steps are the > same, but from iPhoto, I selected the photos I wanted, chose File -> Export | > Slideshow | Custom Export | Size | selected 1920x1

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
Wait a second... I thought you both lived and worked together. Damn mystery is a mystery again. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 4:53 PM, denstar wrote: > > Sweet!  I'll give it a shot and see if it looks good on the giant TV > the Tamarind Institute has.  They added some pictures and need a new > vers

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread denstar
Sweet! I'll give it a shot and see if it looks good on the giant TV the Tamarind Institute has. They added some pictures and need a new version. Part of the problem was burning it to disk. Automatically downscaled the size to 640 or some such. Maybe this will get me past it. Thanks! :Den -

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
I just installed iLife 11 so I can't say for sure that the steps are the same, but from iPhoto, I selected the photos I wanted, chose File -> Export | Slideshow | Custom Export | Size | selected 1920x1080HD On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:10 PM, denstar wrote: > I was trying to export a bunch of photos

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread denstar
This talk about iTunes and iPads reminded me about this: http://grumpygamer.com/1547879 and that guy loves his Macs. ... So, I hear Android is "catching up". Told ya it would. =)p :Den -- Two great European narcotics, alcohol and Christianity. Friedrich Nietzsche ~~

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread denstar
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > On Oct 21, 2010, at 2:33 PM, denstar wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: >>> >>> that's news to me since I'm producing hd video. >> >> Did you just pull all your software off of an old machine? > > New inst

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
On Oct 21, 2010, at 2:33 PM, denstar wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: >> >> that's news to me since I'm producing hd video. > > Did you just pull all your software off of an old machine? New install, only pulled docs from my old machine > > A clean install

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread denstar
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > that's news to me since I'm producing hd video. Did you just pull all your software off of an old machine? A clean install would *not* let me encode HD, and all the HD stuff is paid plugins. Nothing open source that I saw. > hmmm an

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread denstar
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > > The impression I got was that you CAN'T install a JVM other than Apple's > on a Mac, so if they get rid of theirs then Mac users can't use Java at > all. MacPorts opens up a whole world of options. OpenJDK, and lots and lots of other Good

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I'm at work. On a PC. The MacBook is at home, acting as my media server right now. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > C'mon Larry, I just tried a drive by call on you and you're > unavailable...what's up with that. > > You and Tony are just alike :) > > > On Oct 21

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
that's news to me since I'm producing hd video. hmmm and since every mac comes with iPhoto which does importing and iMovie that's done HD video ever since 2006, I see an issue with your statements. I'd say, out of the box, the mac is probably the best machine for digital editing -- and I've us

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
unreachable via facetime On Oct 21, 2010, at 2:14 PM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > lol how'd i become that? > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox > wrote: >> >> C'mon Larry, I just tried a drive by call on you and you're >> unavailable...what's up with that. >> >> You and Tony a

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Ras Tafari
lol how'd i become that? On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > C'mon Larry, I just tried a drive by call on you and you're > unavailable...what's up with that. > > You and Tony are just alike :) > > > On Oct 21, 2010, at 1:29 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > >> >> that's the

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread denstar
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > Challenge Kris to an HD video editing contest with you mbp against his Debian > laptop :) > Cameron would have to pay extra for the HD encoders. There are lots of Open Source ones for Debian. ;) Not so for OS X. Which strikes me a

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread denstar
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: ... > Yeah, I don't generally wake a sleeping PC without knowing that it's going > to be unusable for about 30-60 seconds while it wakes up (if it doesn't > crash).  This is still better than 5+ minutes for the same PC to start from > being

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
Try Skype :P On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > C'mon Larry, I just tried a drive by call on you and you're > unavailable...what's up with that. > > You and Tony are just alike :) > ~| Order the Adob

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
C'mon Larry, I just tried a drive by call on you and you're unavailable...what's up with that. You and Tony are just alike :) On Oct 21, 2010, at 1:29 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > that's the entire philosophy for the Mac, it just works. > > Read their human interface guidelines some time.

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
#x27;t use Java at > all. > > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 1:32 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Facetime for Mac... > > > All it means is that you'll have to download a JDK

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10/21/apple_facetime_security_hole/ Just don't forget your phone. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Sam wrote: >> But you trust facetime? > > You mean Apple really... To know my email/phone number?

RE: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sisk, Kris
mmunity Subject: Re: Facetime for Mac... All it means is that you'll have to download a JDK or JVM and not depend on Apple's. What's the fuss. M$ generally hasn't included java in Windows either. ~| Order

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Sam wrote: > But you trust facetime? You mean Apple really... To know my email/phone number? Yes. They don't need to have my contact list for me to make calls, just my info so they can find me for outbound calls. I sync contacts with my Mac using Google. Yes,

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
gt; > -Original Message- > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:50 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Facetime for Mac... > > > If you use ColdFusion Builder, or anything Eclipse based, you may need > to switch your

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
that's the entire philosophy for the Mac, it just works. Read their human interface guidelines some time. that does a great way of explaining what's great about the Mac. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox > wrote: >>

RE: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Eric Roberts
Hope you have a long cord... -Original Message- From: Ras Tafari [mailto:rastaf...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 2:13 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Facetime for Mac... ok. ill be outside by the sycamore tree enjoying the warm breeze while you hunker down beside your

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
I tried coding under a tree once. it was nice. I got no work done because I couldn't focus but it was a nice break. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > ok.  ill be outside by the sycamore tree enjoying the warm breeze > while you hunker down beside > your big bad desktop.

RE: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Eric Roberts
Only in Steve Jobs Fantasy Walled Garden... -Original Message- From: Sisk, Kris [mailto:ks...@gckschools.com] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:58 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: Facetime for Mac... Ok...that leaves me scratching my head. Why in the world would you kick something

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
Wow, now you sound like one of them...come to think of it you always sound like one of them. Always all in :) On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > >...it was the worse computing experience I ever had. > > Eric ~~

RE: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Eric Roberts
That's a boneheaded move on Apple's part... -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:50 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Facetime for Mac... If you use ColdFusion Builder, or anything Eclipse based, you may need to s

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Ras Tafari
afari [mailto:rastaf...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:03 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Facetime for Mac... > > > ill respect your decision to live in the dark ages where computing sucks. > > that is wholly yours to make ;) > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:48

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Ras Tafari
cool. that's awesome, for YOU. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > I did a contract last summer where I had to use a Mac...it was the worse > computing experience I ever had. > > Eric > ~| Order the Adobe C

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
That doesn't really sound seamless at all. Did you jailbreak your phone and add that fake 3g program so you can use it without wifi? Did you also bump up your plan? On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > now that I think about it, that really was seamless.  I added Camer

RE: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Eric Roberts
I'll put my desktop up against it any day... -Original Message- From: Ras Tafari [mailto:rastaf...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:03 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Facetime for Mac... ill respect your decision to live in the dark ages where computing sucks. th

RE: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Eric Roberts
I did a contract last summer where I had to use a Mac...it was the worse computing experience I ever had. Eric -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:r...@raychampagne.com] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 10:49 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Facetime for Mac... So you&#x

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
But you trust facetime? On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > > Yeah I don't allow facebook into anything of mine, just for general > sanity (and privacy) reasons. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Antholog

RE: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sisk, Kris
I stand corrected then. -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 12:40 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: Facetime for Mac... Actually...iTunes is not an original. Rhapsody and Yahoo music were around long before

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Sam wrote: > does that mean he had facetime running and registered to that email? Actually, I didn't have Facetime running when he called. Must listen in the background (insert conspiracy theory here). I have registered both my email addys with Facetime, yes...

RE: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Eric Roberts
Oh please... -Original Message- From: Ras Tafari [mailto:rastaf...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 10:30 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Facetime for Mac... you are forgetting that most of us tiny view mac worshippers started as -in your thinking- big view microshit

RE: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Eric Roberts
com] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 10:30 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: Facetime for Mac... >I see alot of people looking at this from a very small, personal, individualized, "I'm an Apple hater" point of view. I admit I'm an Apple hater. Their products are overhyped, overpric

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
does that mean he had facetime running and registered to that email? Sounds like Skype, except for the phone part. Although the droid adds all your facebook phone numbers and emails into you contact list, pretty annoying actually. Now my wife needs a way to filter them out. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > now that I think about it, that really was seamless.  I added Cameron's email > address to my > contact list.  Then went back to face time.  Clicked his name and it called > him at his desk. > Really, it can't get much easier than that

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
: > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Vivec wrote: >> Facetime for MAC = Apple Video Conferencing tool. >> >> We've already had it for years in the form of Skype and several other >> similar applications. > > I'm not sure this is true, really. Y

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Vivec
To backup my theory on where Apple is heading with the Mac platform: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/10/macbook-air-3/ Flash does not come preloaded on the new Mac AIR laptops. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! h

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
btw, nice to meet you Cameron ;) On Oct 21, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Vivec wrote: >> Facetime for MAC = Apple Video Conferencing tool. >> >> We've already had it for years in the form of Skype and several

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
Cameron has been the first victim of my random drive by facetime callling! muhwahaha On Oct 21, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Vivec wrote: >> Facetime for MAC = Apple Video Conferencing tool. >> >> We've al

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Vivec wrote: > Facetime for MAC = Apple Video Conferencing tool. > > We've already had it for years in the form of Skype and several other > similar applications. I'm not sure this is true, really. You can open the desktop version

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Vivec
Facetime for MAC = Apple Video Conferencing tool. We've already had it for years in the form of Skype and several other similar applications. Facetime now has the marketing might of Apple behind it, but it's not a new application by any means. THis is what Apple does, and I must say

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Vivec
The Macs are going to become part of the Walled Garden ecosystem. That means that Flash and Java may come in the crosshairs for removal, since they will allow customers to go outside this garden to get software. Apple is implementing the same App Stores etc. for the iPad and iPhone on the next D

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
I'm flashing back to 1995 again when all the Apple users would crowd around my desk to see what this Java thingy buzz was all about :) On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > If you use ColdFusion Builder, or anything Eclipse based, you may need > to switch your OS in the futur

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Ras Tafari
ailto:boyz...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 10:50 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Facetime for Mac... > > > If you use ColdFusion Builder, or anything Eclipse based, you may need > to switch your OS in the future. > > http://www.dcooper.org/blog/clien

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Scott Stroz
es me scratching my head. Why in the world would you kick > something as widely used as Java off your platform? > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 10:50 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Facetime f

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
or just use OpenJDK. On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:50 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > If you use ColdFusion Builder, or anything Eclipse based, you may need > to switch your OS in the future. > > http://www.dcooper.org/blog/client/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=CEB13E9F-4E22-1671-5BE18C1A5FEA83CC > > On Thu

RE: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sisk, Kris
Ok...that leaves me scratching my head. Why in the world would you kick something as widely used as Java off your platform? -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 10:50 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Facetime for Mac... If

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Scott Stroz
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > ill respect your decision to live in the dark ages where computing sucks. > > that is wholly yours to make ;) > I have a MBP and I love it. In my opinion, I think the hardware is better than any other laptop I have owned, and I like OS X m

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Scott Stroz
If you use ColdFusion Builder, or anything Eclipse based, you may need to switch your OS in the future. http://www.dcooper.org/blog/client/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=CEB13E9F-4E22-1671-5BE18C1A5FEA83CC On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > like ive said. > > maybe someday you

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
I liked the way you could color folders. Back then they had a way superior chip, then they converted to that dreaded inferior chip and ended up being so much better. Just saying. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Sam wrote: > >>

RE: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sisk, Kris
- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 10:08 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Facetime for Mac... On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > Challenge Kris to an HD video editing contest with you mbp against his Debian la

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Ras Tafari
it's ok, ill forget this conversation anyway later tonight :) On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Sam wrote: > > Thanks, that's all I needed to hear. I would hate to think I kept you > up nights worrying about my seeing the light. > > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Ras Tafari wrote: >> >> il

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
Thanks, that's all I needed to hear. I would hate to think I kept you up nights worrying about my seeing the light. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > ill respect your decision to live in the dark ages where computing sucks. > > that is wholly yours to make ;) > ~~

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
I wasn't saying it's not coming, just saying I was having flashbacks. 1995 I think. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Cameron Childress > wrote: >> > I will make another prediction.  In 12 months we will be discussing Google >> >

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
My Toshiba goes months without a reboot and 5 or 6 sleeps a day. And I leave about ten apps running. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > just checked my uptime on my mbp.  It's been up 17 days -- that's with my > moving it between work and home.  It's put to sleep at

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > Challenge Kris to an HD video editing contest with you mbp against his Debian > laptop :) I'll challenge Kris to a game of "I don't care what you prefer on your laptop and wasn't questioning your selection of Operating System". -Came

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Ras Tafari
there you go kris, lets go! On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > Challenge Kris to an HD video editing contest with you mbp against his Debian > laptop :) > > > On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:43 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > >> >> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Ras Tafari

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:00 AM, G Money wrote: > Ok soI'll take 'em! Next time I'm out there I will dig out that box. May be awhile. I've already ripped them all to MP3 and haven't even looked at the CDs in years... -Cameron ...

RE: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sisk, Kris
Give me a few months to learn to use KDenLive and I might take that challenge :) -Original Message- From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:57 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Facetime for Mac... Challenge Kris to an HD video

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > I will make another prediction.  In 12 months we will be discussing Google > > vs Apple vs Vendor X in a huge battle over set top boxes. > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Sam wrote: > Wow I'm flashing back to Web TV days? Let's ju

RE: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sisk, Kris
r that has more features, more storage, and equal sound quality. As for the Mac, I just can't stand OSX. -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:r...@raychampagne.com] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:51 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Facetime for Mac... My problem with

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
If I was doing a lot of video editing I would get a Mac. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > Challenge Kris to an HD video editing contest with you mbp against his Debian > laptop :) > > ~| Order t

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Ras Tafari
ill respect your decision to live in the dark ages where computing sucks. that is wholly yours to make ;) On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Sam wrote: > > That's awesome and I'm glad you and many others found what works for > them. Now please respect my decision to make a different choice. > >

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
just checked my uptime on my mbp. It's been up 17 days -- that's with my moving it between work and home. It's put to sleep at least 3 times a day. My wife's Thinkpad will start acting wonky after 1 or two sleeps. My standard answer of "reboot" always corrects the problem. On Oct 21, 201

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Jerry Johnson
That's because only girls and sissies use Macs. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Ray Champagne wrote: > > My problem with the Apple haters is that they have to whirl insults around > when someone says that they like Apple. And most of them haven't even > tried > the product, or tried it umpte

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2010-10-21 Thread G Money
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > Really, I haven't been to the storage unit in a couple of years. Haven't > bought a CD in probably 10-12 years. Mostly stuff from the 90s. Alot of > stuff from my college days (mid 90s). Alot of the stuff the defined > "alternative

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2010-10-21 Thread Sam
People don't say they like Apple, they say their world is now complete and until everyone else switches over they are losers. I have used Macs recently and it doesn't excite me. Same with using Linux. But the attitude that if you aren't using an Apple you're life sucks has not changed in all tho

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2010-10-21 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:49 AM, G Money wrote: > I'll take 'em, unless your taste in music sucks.who we talking about > here? > Really, I haven't been to the storage unit in a couple of years. Haven't bought a CD in probably 10-12 years. Mostly stuff from the 90s. Alot of stuff from my

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2010-10-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
Challenge Kris to an HD video editing contest with you mbp against his Debian laptop :) On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:43 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Ras Tafari wrote: > >> it was this that was the final straw on my pc. >> i no longer have to wait for more than

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Ras Tafari wrote: > it was this that was the final straw on my pc. > i no longer have to wait for more than 2 seconds before > im back up and working on my mbpro. > > ill challenge ANYONE, besides Kris, who is truly unto his > own in console land ;) but thats ok

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Sam
Wow I'm flashing back to Web TV days? On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > >> Apple TV isn't widespread enough to help Facetime. I could see Facetime >> helping make Apple TV something you can talk about without ca

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Sam wrote: > Back in the mid 90's I had to use Macs at Time Warner. It was the same > kind of worshiping back then. I couldn't wait to get home and get real > work done. > OS 7.6 timeframe? I was totally a 100% PC guy then and Mac/PC couldn't even share files

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2010-10-21 Thread Sam
No, I'm saying the Mac user attitude hasn't changed one bit in 15 years. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Ray Champagne wrote: > > So you're going off experiences that you had 15 years ago? > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Ant

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2010-10-21 Thread Ray Champagne
My problem with the Apple haters is that they have to whirl insults around when someone says that they like Apple. And most of them haven't even tried the product, or tried it umpteen-odd years ago and are going off bad info. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Sam wrote: > > That's awesome and I

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2010-10-21 Thread Sam
If it's Coldplay and Timberlake then no. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Sam wrote: > >> I bought a video and it ended up being like 2" x 3" and low res. I was >> pissed. >> As for music, I'm old, I don't buy songs, I buy cds. >

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2010-10-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
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Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread G Money
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > I have ~150 old CDs in the back of a storage unit somewhere. Want em? > > I'll take 'em, unless your taste in music sucks.who we talking about here? ~| Order th

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Ray Champagne
So you're going off experiences that you had 15 years ago? On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Sam wrote: > > Back in the mid 90's I had to use Macs at Time Warner. It was the same > kind of worshiping back then. I couldn't wait to get home and get real > work done. > > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1

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2010-10-21 Thread Sam
That's awesome and I'm glad you and many others found what works for them. Now please respect my decision to make a different choice. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > like ive said. > > maybe someday you all will see.  its not so much about being an apple hater > and feed

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2010-10-21 Thread Sam
I respect the power of marketing and the way they use it. Just don't mock me for not falling for it. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Sam wrote: > >>  On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Cameron Childress >> wrote: >> > >> > I see al

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-21 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Sam wrote: > I bought a video and it ended up being like 2" x 3" and low res. I was > pissed. > As for music, I'm old, I don't buy songs, I buy cds. > I have ~150 old CDs in the back of a storage unit somewhere. Want em? -Cameron ... ~~

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2010-10-21 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > Apple TV isn't widespread enough to help Facetime. I could see Facetime > helping make Apple TV something you can talk about without causing > people to ask what it is, but not the other way around. > I will make another prediction. In 12 m

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2010-10-21 Thread Sam
Back in the mid 90's I had to use Macs at Time Warner. It was the same kind of worshiping back then. I couldn't wait to get home and get real work done. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > you are forgetting that most of us tiny view mac worshippers started as > -in your thi

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