Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-30 Thread Robert Munn
You smell like Gruss. On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Medic wrote: > > Ah, well I guess the trolling is working well enough. I just thought that > was more your bag than RoMunn's. > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-30 Thread denstar
LOL! On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > That is the nicest phone case I have ever seen. > > I am now interested in the World Cup again and have become a fan of Paraguay. > > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: >> >> Paraguayan lingerie model promises to run

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-30 Thread Scott Stroz
That is the nicest phone case I have ever seen. I am now interested in the World Cup again and have become a fan of Paraguay. On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Paraguayan lingerie model promises to run naked through the streets if > her team wins the World Cup. > > http:

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-30 Thread Scott Stroz
Also funny. Over the last few years I have seen worse pics than that form football games. On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Medic wrote: > > Speaking of funny because it's true. > *http://tinyurl.com/33xzscc* > > Now I understand. > > > ~

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-30 Thread Judah McAuley
Paraguayan lingerie model promises to run naked through the streets if her team wins the World Cup. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/29/larissa-riquelme-lingerie_n_629975.html On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Vivec wrote: > > > > http://bleacherreport.com/articles/407865-2010-fifa-wor

RE: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-30 Thread Eric Roberts
Bad Scott heheheheh -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 4:50 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball. Its funny because its true. http://bit.ly/dkiwTE SFW On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 5:41

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-30 Thread Vivec
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/407865-2010-fifa-world-cup-the-perfect-wag On 30 June 2010 18:21, Medic wrote: > > Speaking of funny because it's true. > *http://tinyurl.com/33xzscc* > > Now I understand. > > ~| Orde

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-30 Thread Medic
Speaking of funny because it's true. *http://tinyurl.com/33xzscc* Now I understand. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-30 Thread Judah McAuley
Ok, that was funny. On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Its funny because its true. > > http://bit.ly/dkiwTE SFW > > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Medic wrote: >> >> Who's angry? >> >> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Chris Stoner wrote: >> >>> >>> Medic, >>> >>> I'm tru

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-30 Thread Scott Stroz
Its funny because its true. http://bit.ly/dkiwTE SFW On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Medic wrote: > > Who's angry? > > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Chris Stoner wrote: > >> >> Medic, >> >> I'm truly curious when I ask, why do you get so angry when discussing >> 'real' >> football as compa

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-30 Thread Medic
Who's angry? On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Chris Stoner wrote: > > Medic, > > I'm truly curious when I ask, why do you get so angry when discussing > 'real' > football as compared to american football? Do you not see that the primary > reason we (american's) compare the two is because each

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-30 Thread Chris Stoner
Medic, I'm truly curious when I ask, why do you get so angry when discussing 'real' football as compared to american football? Do you not see that the primary reason we (american's) compare the two is because each is our nation's most popular sport? Soccer just isn't popular in america, so when

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-30 Thread Sam
And here everyone was thinking you're the troll :P On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Medic wrote: > > Ah, well I guess the trolling is working well enough. I just thought that > was more your bag than RoMunn's. > ~| Order the Ad

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-30 Thread Medic
Ah, well I guess the trolling is working well enough. I just thought that was more your bag than RoMunn's. On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Sam wrote: > > Yes it is :) > > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Medic wrote: > > > > > I understand what you're trying to do, but it's not working. > > >

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-30 Thread Sam
Yes it is :) On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Medic wrote: > > I understand what you're trying to do, but it's not working. > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > >> >> So every soccer ball in the world gets replaced every four years? How >> do kids in third world countries

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-30 Thread Medic
I'm sorry I thought we were discussing the World Cup. You want a discussion on football by and large. Well it's consistent enough. It's a size #5 ball of approximately the average weight and behaviour. It's as consistent as any other aspect of the game. Players have myriad boot types to choose fro

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-30 Thread Robert Munn
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:06 AM, Medic wrote: > > That wasn't my argument. > However the ball is consistent. Every team has them to practice with, every > game is played with them. Consistently. So every soccer ball in the world gets replaced every four years? How do kids in third world countri

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-30 Thread Medic
Ain't that the truth. On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > The game and its play will always come second to money. That's how it is, > consequences be damned. > > > J > > - > > You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. > You cannot strengthen the weak by wea

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-30 Thread Jerry Barnes
The game and its play will always come second to money. That's how it is, consequences be damned. J - You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot enrich the poor by impoverishing the rich. You cannot establish so

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-30 Thread Vivec
Oh yeah? Well I know the sport and *I* think changing the ball for every worldcup is all about Money and Merchandising and it's stupid-so-there! thbbbttthhh :-} On 30 June 2010 08:59, Medic wrote: > > Whatever mate. You are forging an argument about a sport you know nothing > about based

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-30 Thread Scott Stroz
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Medic wrote: > > That agreement to look into the ball design doesn't disagree with > a single point I've made. Full stop. You think the new ball design is not an issue. FIFA thinks it may be. Can't be 100% certain, but that there looks like a disagreement -- S

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-30 Thread Medic
That wasn't my argument. However the ball is consistent. Every team has them to practice with, every game is played with them. Consistently. On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 1:39 AM, Robert Munn wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > > > You can defend it anyway you want..bu

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-30 Thread Medic
Whatever mate. You are forging an argument about a sport you know nothing about based on a tagline you know nothing about. FIFA agreed to investigate. Big deal. That agreement to look into the ball design doesn't disagree with a single point I've made. Full stop. On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:54 PM

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-29 Thread Robert Munn
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > You can defend it anyway you want..but FIFA does not even agree with > you or they would not be investigating the ball design - unless, of > course, this is just FIFA trying to make it seem like they really > care. Soccer should be totally

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-29 Thread Scott Stroz
You can defend it anyway you want..but FIFA does not even agree with you or they would not be investigating the ball design - unless, of course, this is just FIFA trying to make it seem like they really care. The Super Bowl may be a 'league cup' but tons of people the world over watch the game ev

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-29 Thread Medic
> > > For FOUR YEARS you have trained your body to react to the ball in a > certain way. Um... no. This isn't the Olympics. These players don't spend four years training for World Cup. They spend four years playing in whatever top flight league they can get the most money at. Every single one of

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-29 Thread Medic
Super Bowl is not at all like World Cup. Super Bowl is a league cup. It's like winning the Premier League. Super Bowl isn't international, it's a country-wide league. NFL is like the EPL or SPL or Serie A. Yes there are comparisons, but an equal amount of comparisons can be drawn to any competit

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-29 Thread denstar
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: ... > I cannot imagine training for 4 years(or more) to get to the World Cup > and have to play with a ball, arguable the single most important piece > of equipment in ANY soccer game, that acts differently to what I used > during my training. To

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
"It was cool for one year, maybe two. But how many times will be subjected to the old Broncos and Eagles jerseys?" And how ugly are the old Houston Astros jerseys? J - Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor Liberty to purchase power. - Benjamin Franklin ~~

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-29 Thread Judah McAuley
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > If they are going to change it should be in the year after the world cup. > Then teams have four years to prepare.  Not going to happen. The ball was introduced like a year ago, I believe. Not 3 years, mind you, but it isn't like they brough

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-29 Thread Scott Stroz
I _hate_ the throwback jerseys. It was cool for one year, maybe two. But how many times will be subjected to the old Broncos and Eagles jerseys? On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "...I understand that they want to have the ball change because Addidas > makes a hell of a l

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-29 Thread Scott Stroz
Umm..no its not. I think it is a very fair comparison between football and soccer. Football is the most popular sport in the US. Soccer is the most popular sport world wide. The Super Bowl typically has the largest TV ratings for any other broadcast in a given year - except maybe on years where

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
"...I understand that they want to have the ball change because Addidas makes a hell of a lot of money putting out a new World Cup ball for sale every 4 years." That about sums it up. Follow the money. Think about how much money is generated from the sale of throwback jerseys in baseball and fo

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-29 Thread Medic
Now you are starting to get it... that your comparison between the two is as ridiculous as a comparison between rock-paper-scissors. On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I have not changed ny argument, though you seem to be throwing up a > lot of smoke in front of yours. > >

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-29 Thread Scott Stroz
I have not changed ny argument, though you seem to be throwing up a lot of smoke in front of yours. I made a rather innocuous comment (intended to be a joke AND rustle some feathers) that the NFL does not make it a habit of redesigning the ball they use for their biggest event like FIFA does. Yo

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-29 Thread Medic
You are changing your argument mid swing. You said it was apples to apples because NFL has Super Bowl and because FIFA has World Cup. Therefore the list I gave speaks to that point. Now you are saying your argument is based on if a ruling body is responsible for a sanctioned ball etc. I'm not goin

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-29 Thread Vivec
I think the deal with the Ball is financial in nature between FIFA and ADIDAS. I don't see any credible reason for introducing a new ball with completely new dynamics so close to the start of these last worldcups. >From a player perspective consider Muscle Memory. For FOUR YEARS you have trained

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-29 Thread Judah McAuley
Or because they were playing against a North Korea side that was horridly outmatched. Anyone can kick pretty much any soccer ball into an unguarded net from 6 meters out. The controversy only shows up when you are dealing with the extremes, when you have players at the top of the game trying to ge

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-29 Thread Scott Stroz
e- >> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 2:17 PM >> To: cf-community >> Subject: Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball. >> >> >> Lets see. >> >> The Super Bowl is the biggest event put

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-29 Thread Scott Stroz
Funny, as it seems FIFA disagrees with you. Why else woud they be investigating, or did you not read the link that was provided? To address your comment below: Darts - don't know much about it, but the few local tournaments (in bars) I have seen, each participant brought their own darts. Golf -

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-29 Thread Medic
That's quite a leap. On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 3:36 PM, G Money wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Medic wrote: > > > > > It's not like they've changed the ball so much that it's not a football > > anymore. And it's not like the teams were just given the ball the day the > > world cup s

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-29 Thread G Money
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Medic wrote: > > It's not like they've changed the ball so much that it's not a football > anymore. And it's not like the teams were just given the ball the day the > world cup started. They've had lots of time to train with Jubulani. And > these athletes can and

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-29 Thread Medic
-Original Message- > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 2:17 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball. > > > Lets see. > > The Super Bowl is the biggest event put on by the NFL. The Wor

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-29 Thread Medic
So then darts, golf, paper-rock-scissors, tennis, cricket, horse racing, indy and more are all apples to apples just because they have a large pinnacle event? It's not like they've changed the ball so much that it's not a football anymore. And it's not like the teams were just given the ball the

RE: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-29 Thread Sisk, Kris
- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 2:17 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball. Lets see. The Super Bowl is the biggest event put on by the NFL. The World Cup is the biggest event (even bigger than the Super Bowl)

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-29 Thread Scott Stroz
Lets see. The Super Bowl is the biggest event put on by the NFL. The World Cup is the biggest event (even bigger than the Super Bowl) put on by FIFA. (Apples vs Apples there) The NFL does not change the design of the ball for its big event. FIFA does. Please help me understand how this is an ap

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-29 Thread Medic
But how does the fact that the NFL doesn't change their ball relate to football in any way? It's part of world cup that they try to use new tech with the balls. It just seems like you are comparing apples to oranges by saying "say what you want about oranges, at least they aren't apples." On Tue,

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-29 Thread Scott Stroz
yea, you said it better than I did. I hate when you guys do that. On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 2:48 PM, G Money wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Medic wrote: > >> >> Would you be so kind as to help a poor fella like myself understand your >> point? >> > > I think his point is clearly "Pi

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-29 Thread Scott Stroz
Sure. If I understand correctly, the ball being used this year was newly engineered specifically for this World Cup (as was, I believe, the ball from 4 years ago). This ball seems to be acting differently than other balls that are used. You don't get that with American football (or any other maj

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-29 Thread G Money
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Medic wrote: > > Would you be so kind as to help a poor fella like myself understand your > point? > I think his point is clearly "Pick a ball and stick with it!" Every cup there's a ball controversy. So why do they pick a new one every time? Find one that work

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-29 Thread Medic
Would you be so kind as to help a poor fella like myself understand your point? On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Say what you want about American football, but we don't re-engineer > the ball for every Super Bowl :D > > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Vivec wrote: > > >

Re: Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-29 Thread Scott Stroz
Say what you want about American football, but we don't re-engineer the ball for every Super Bowl :D On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Fifa responds to another point of contention in the worldcup today : The new > Ball. > > The ball has come under intense criticism for it's prope

Fifa promises investigation into Jabulani ball.

2010-06-29 Thread Vivec
Fifa responds to another point of contention in the worldcup today : The new Ball. The ball has come under intense criticism for it's propensity to arc several meters into the air with the slightest touch. This has thrown off several strikers who in regular play are normally top scorers. It is al