RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-14 Thread Sisk, Kris
Funny thing about the Rapture...it's not mentioned anywhere in the Bible. -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:13 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas! I have a bumper sticker

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-14 Thread Casey Dougall
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 1:31 AM, Robert Munn cfmuns...@gmail.com wrote: didn't you hear, it's still 140 years until the Age of Aquarius. 150 years, 2060, but I'm still going with 2012! You can't start count from birth of Christ, that's just silly. Sir Isaac Newton, Rob Hand, and Dane

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-14 Thread G Money
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote: Funny thing about the Rapture...it's not mentioned anywhere in the Bible. It's not? I guess i'm not positive what you mean by Rapture, but doesn't Revelations talk about the 144,000 being saved on the day of

RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-14 Thread Sisk, Kris
-community Subject: Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas! On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote: Funny thing about the Rapture...it's not mentioned anywhere in the Bible. It's not? I guess i'm not positive what you mean by Rapture, but doesn't

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-14 Thread G Money
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote: Revelation talks about the 144,000 but there's a lot of debate as to exactly what it means. We know from other passages that it doesn't refer to the number of people who will be saved as the number of people saved is

RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-14 Thread Sisk, Kris
asked. -Original Message- From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:06 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas! On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote: Revelation talks

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-14 Thread Judah McAuley
. -Original Message- From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:06 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas! On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote: Revelation talks about

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-14 Thread Casey Dougall
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: I thought that the idea of the Rapture started with Paul. I had to look it up, but it is 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 According to the Lord's own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-14 Thread G Money
interpretation I've ever come across, nor do the 144,000. I just answered the specific questions you asked. -Original Message- From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:06 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-14 Thread Larry C. Lyons
or the person is on some pretty intense hallucinogens. thing is fasting in a desert type environment does leave one susceptible to that type of hallucination. And also given that at that when the revelations were written, people had good access to some fairly strong hallucinogens. So you have to

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-14 Thread Judah McAuley
Paul was, supposedly, in Corinth when he wrote those letters. Corinth is definitely not a desert. I can't discount the thought that he may have been high and/or having a flashback however. Judah On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: or the person is on

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-14 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Given that the ancient Greek pharmacopoeia had quite a few intense hallucinogens, its definitely possible. But remember it was John who wrote Revelations. In the desert with a lot of fasting. and for all we know a fair amount of exotic mushrooms and various flowers. On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:08

Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Sisk, Kris
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07/12/methane_bubble_of_doom/ Bit of amusing junk science and conspiracy theory. Good for a laugh though. On a related note, have people always been convinced the world was going to end tomorrow and I've just never noticed till now or is it a recent

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Jerry Johnson
I can point you to some used Koolaid containers, a whole bunch of barely used black sneakers, or a firesale on a nice Texas compound. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote: On a related note, have people always been convinced the world was going to end

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Ian Skinner
On 7/13/2010 8:07 AM, Sisk, Kris wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07/12/methane_bubble_of_doom/ Bit of amusing junk science and conspiracy theory. Good for a laugh though. On a related note, have people always been convinced the world was going to end tomorrow and I've just never

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
On a related note, have people always been convinced the world was going to end tomorrow and I've just never noticed till now or is it a recent trend? It's definitely nothing new - here's some fun reading: http://www.abhota.info/end1.htm

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread G Money
That is fascinating reading. Nothing amazes me more than the Heaven's Gate folks. It justit staggers the imagination, the levels of delusion to which we are capable. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 10:37 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey chumph...@gmail.comwrote: On a related note, have people always

RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Eric Roberts
Message- From: Ian Skinner [mailto:h...@ilsweb.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 10:24 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas! On 7/13/2010 8:07 AM, Sisk, Kris wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07/12/methane_bubble_of_doom/ Bit

RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Sisk, Kris
the corner. -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:00 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas! Same thing happens at the turn of just about every century

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread William Bowen
quitters... :-D Same thing happens at the turn of just about every century.  There was a Christian fundamentalist movement that thought the end of the world was going to happen in 1800, then again in 1850, then again in 1900...I think they finally gave up after the 3rd time didn't come to

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread G Money
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote: I think it just wasn't as big a deal because there are so few Christians these days Watchoo talkin' bout Willis? (God rest GC's soul) 2.1 - 2.3 BILLION of ya around the globe, almost double the next closest religion.

RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Sisk, Kris
. -Original Message- From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:28 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas! On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote: I think it just wasn't as big a deal

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Robert Munn
Read The Golden Ass, it is a Roman story about the cult of Isis. They were preaching the end of the world thousands of years ago. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07/12/methane_bubble_of_doom/

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Robert Munn
Even the people that are nominally Christians are not necessarily really Christians. I took an anthropology course in Spain where the teacher walked us through all of these wacky, ancient rituals that local people around Spain followed, and he showed how they were pagan rituals from pre-Christian

RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Sisk, Kris
over (in case you hadn't guessed, I belong to one of those). -Original Message- From: Robert Munn [mailto:cfmuns...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 2:00 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas! Even the people that are nominally

RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Rick Eidson
That's it eh? A giant Fart from the Gulf of Mexico! Rick -Original Message- From: Robert Munn [mailto:cfmuns...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:50 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas! Read The Golden Ass, it is a Roman story

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Judah McAuley
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote: Heh. It's not limited to Spain. You'd be shocked how much paganism snuck into the church around the third or fourth century. Even the Pope's hat has its origins in paganism. It's so bad that there are several

RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Sisk, Kris
-community Subject: Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas! Does that make you a Jew then? I can't take people who rely on the Bible seriously. What constitutes the Bible was decided on by committee. If you base your religion on the work of a committee, well, look how well the US

RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Eric Roberts
of the Vatican, the four square pattern, was a sacred Pagan Roman pattern. -Original Message- From: Robert Munn [mailto:cfmuns...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 2:00 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas! Even the people that are nominally

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread G Money
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote: The Bible may have been decided by committee, but a selection narrowed down by a committee from a larger pool is better than mixing and mingling other religions to form your own. Why is that better? -- I've seen your

RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Sisk, Kris
At least the pool they chose from all claimed to have to do with my own religion. -Original Message- From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 2:53 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas! On Tue, Jul 13, 2010

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Judah McAuley
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote: Not quite but there are quite a few similarities. For instance I observe the Sabbath on the same day (Saturday) and in the same way as a Jew would and I follow an almost kosher diet (my food doesn't have to be kosher

RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Sisk, Kris
Why is that better, out of curiosity? And how did the Council of Carthage not mix and mingle religions together to form Christianity? At the very least, they selectively took elements of Judaism and combined it with some of the teachings of the Apostles while rejecting others, such as the Gnostic

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread morchella
my Dad still thinks something about being born in 1948 and some verse about when the generation of Israel passing away blah blah blah.. Bring it.. burn the mother down.. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Judah McAuley
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote: Some may not agree, but I don't consider Judaism to be a separate religion. After all, Christ himself was a Jew. As for the Gnostics, most of them were rejected for good reason (for instance many of them didn't appear

RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Sisk, Kris
What is your opinion on the Gospel of Thomas? It doesn't seem to be any later than the canonical gospels, yet represents a drastically different way of viewing early Christianity. I'm not familiar with that one. I know that there were several reasons that various gospels were rejected other than

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Judah McAuley
You should give it a read sometime. It is a principle Gnostic gospel, though it doesn't go as far as some of the Gnostic movement (from what I understand). I found portions of it definitely wacky (and it has been a good 15-odd years since I read it) but it really does a good job showing the

RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Eric Roberts
. -Original Message- From: Rick Eidson [mailto:cfh...@kchost.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 2:13 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas! That's it eh? A giant Fart from the Gulf of Mexico! Rick -Original Message- From: Robert

RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Eric Roberts
-Original Message- From: Sisk, Kris [mailto:ks...@gckschools.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 3:22 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas! Some may not agree, but I don't consider Judaism to be a separate religion. After all, Christ

RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Eric Roberts
-Original Message- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 4:17 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas! On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote: Some may not agree

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Maureen
I have a bumper sticker that says When you leave in the rapture, can I have your car? On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:10 AM, William Bowen william.bo...@gmail.com wrote: quitters... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Maureen
Current scholarship places the original writings between 50-150 AD, with the Pauline letters dated the earliest, and II Peter the latest. None of the originals survive. 50 AD is only a slightly over a decade after then crucifixion of Christ, not 300+ years. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Eric

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Robert Munn
didn't you hear, it's still 140 years until the Age of Aquarius. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: I have a bumper sticker that says When you leave in the rapture, can I have your car? On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:10 AM, William Bowen

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Maureen
Life as we knew it ended for me on Harmonic Convergence. Nothing has been the same since, so I can only assume the world ended and I am in some twilight netherworld of global communication and gorgeous men. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Robert Munn cfmuns...@gmail.com wrote: didn't you