Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-21 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > I am not saying we "should" be able to tell Iraq what to do. I am saying > that we "are" telling Iraq what to do. I'm not saying it was aliens, but it was aliens. ~|

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Ah, you mean to the victor goes the spoils. We invaded a sovereign nation because we accused them of having weapons they didn't. Our advanced weaponry made it a one sided ass kicking from a military standpoint...and so now, as the conquering invader, we should be able to tell these weaklings exac

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-21 Thread Gruss Gott
Whether he's kidding or not he's right. Iraq is the US's largest foreign base for over a decade across 2 presidents from different parties - what does that implicitly tell us about our foreign policy priorities? US strategic petroleum reserve = Iraq On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:09 AM, GMoney wrot

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-21 Thread GMoney
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > I'll have to disagree. The US kicked Iraq's ass all over Mesopotamia. > It's the US's business, and it's all about business (oil). > Ah, you mean to the victor goes the spoils. We invaded a sovereign nation because we accused them of ha

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
"if Iraq wants armed US contractors working on infrastructure improvements, that's their business." I'll have to disagree. The US kicked Iraq's ass all over Mesopotamia. It's the US's business, and it's all about business (oil). "They obviously OK'd such arrangement." Damn skippy they ok'd

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-20 Thread Sam
The Dickey-Wicker Amendment, which Clinton signed, prohibited it. Bush was able to get around it by using existing lines. . On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > You are entitled to your own opinion, you are not entitled to your own > reality Sam. > ~

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-20 Thread Larry C. Lyons
You are entitled to your own opinion, you are not entitled to your own reality Sam. On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Sam wrote: > > You lie... > > No Federal funding was ever used hESC research until Bush made it so > Aug 9, 2001. > > Private funding was always available. > > . > > > On Tue, Ma

RE: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-20 Thread Eric Roberts
LOL *shaking head* -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 10:09 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program You lie... No Federal funding was ever used hESC research until Bush made it

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-20 Thread Sam
You lie... No Federal funding was ever used hESC research until Bush made it so Aug 9, 2001. Private funding was always available. . On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > before bush it was almost treated as any other research funding > request, while there were funding

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-20 Thread Larry C. Lyons
before bush it was almost treated as any other research funding request, while there were funding restrictions they had some significant exceptions that allowed researchers to do work with human stem cells. After Bush's presidential order only 19 lines of approved stem cells could be used. All fed

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-20 Thread Vivec
Really? And then what would happen to them :-) On 20 March 2012 10:55, GMoney wrote: > if Iraq wants armed US contractors working on infrastructure improvements, > that's their business. They obviously OK'd such arrangement. If not, they > could kick every single American out of there if they w

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-20 Thread GMoney
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "I got my withdrawal from Iraq, that was nice." > > Somewhat. > > The US exchanged troops for armed contractors working for the State > Department. > > Nothing could go wrong with that. > if Iraq wants armed US contractors working on infr

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-20 Thread Jerry Barnes
"I got my withdrawal from Iraq, that was nice." Somewhat. The US exchanged troops for armed contractors working for the State Department. Nothing could go wrong with that. J - Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation. - Henry Kissinger Politicians are peop

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-20 Thread Sam
There was no funding. Bush created the funding with limitations. Before that, nothing. Clinton was back and forth about it and finally proposed a go ahead with funding but never approved it. Bush made it so. . On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Vivec wrote: > > Who removed the funding? > ~~

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-20 Thread Vivec
Who removed the funding? On 20 March 2012 10:08, Sam wrote: > > President Bush was first in providing funding by the US government for > human stem cell research. > > But you knew that. > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Antho

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-20 Thread Sam
President Bush was first in providing funding by the US government for human stem cell research. But you knew that. . On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Wrong Sam, he forbade any federal funding for stem cell research > except using certain cell lines. And made sure you

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-20 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Wrong Sam, he forbade any federal funding for stem cell research except using certain cell lines. And made sure you had to go through some real ugly hoops before getting the cells lines. Moreover those line were more likely to develop cancers than other non approved lines because of their age. Rem

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-20 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 11:28 PM, Sam wrote: > > Yes, anything to do with Republican or Conservatism is considered > evil. I get it. > > > All politicians are leading us down the path to Marxism and revolution if they keep on neglecting needs of everyone apart from Corporations and Religion. ht

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-20 Thread Sam
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 9:08 AM, GMoney wrote: > I got my stem cell research...that was huge. Bush was the first President to pay for Embryonic Stem Cell research > I got my withdrawal from Iraq, that was nice. Nice? 10 years wasted. We turned our back moments before a success. > Afghanistan

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-20 Thread GMoney
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 8:01 AM, Sam wrote: > > Well there's Elle MacPherson. > > As for the rest of the non-bulk Obama voters, many got what they > wanted and are happy. > I got my stem cell research...that was huge. I got my withdrawal from Iraq, that was nice. Afghanistan has an end in sig

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-20 Thread Sam
Well there's Elle MacPherson. As for the rest of the non-bulk Obama voters, many got what they wanted and are happy. . On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 8:52 AM, GMoney wrote: > Can you think of any reason that a person, one who was not lazy and gave > the deal a great bit of thought, could still have

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-20 Thread GMoney
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Sam wrote: > > I can't pass judgement on such a large group. I imagine there could be > a few evil ones and bunches of misguided folks. But as a group I think > they consist of all sorts. > > Now that I've given it a little more thought, I think the bulk of > fo

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-20 Thread Sam
I can't pass judgement on such a large group. I imagine there could be a few evil ones and bunches of misguided folks. But as a group I think they consist of all sorts. Now that I've given it a little more thought, I think the bulk of folks that voted for Obama were either misguided or too lazy

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-20 Thread GMoney
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 10:28 PM, Sam wrote: > > Yes, anything to do with Republican or Conservatism is considered > evil. I get it. > What do you think of Democrats or Liberalism? Evil...or just misguided? ~| Order the Adobe

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-19 Thread Sam
Yes, anything to do with Republican or Conservatism is considered evil. I get it. . On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 9:09 PM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Sam wrote: > >> They are evil for many reasons, that's just the message du jour > > > Sam beli

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-19 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Sam wrote: > They are evil for many reasons, that's just the message du jour Sam believes republican states are evil. quote du jour. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.a

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-19 Thread Sam
They are evil for many reasons, that's just the message du jour . On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "So, the State of Texas will help it's poor no matter what the Federal > government > does." > > Sam, Texas and Perry are still evil since they are not giving money to > P

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-19 Thread Jerry Barnes
"So, the State of Texas will help it's poor no matter what the Federal government does." Sam, Texas and Perry are still evil since they are not giving money to Planned Parenthood. It doesn't matter if they still help the poor. Can't you see that? J - Ninety percent of politicians give the

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-16 Thread Sam
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 4:10 PM, PT wrote: > > On 3/16/2012 3:42 PM, Sam wrote: >> We're all moderates, except when we're not. > > I am not even sure what that means, or what it is supposed to mean. It means it's rare to find someone that agrees 100% with the left or the right which makes us all

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-16 Thread PT
On 3/16/2012 3:42 PM, Sam wrote: > We're all moderates, except when we're not. I am not even sure what that means, or what it is supposed to mean. > I find it amazing that anyone could turn around and say Obama is doing > the right thing or was forced to strip medicaid from the poor. I don't th

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-16 Thread Sam
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 2:34 PM, PT wrote: > >  > The left is always right with you isn't it. > > We have been over this.  I lean left in some areas and right in others. >  I guess I am moderate.  I don't know.  I wonder if you have trouble > seeing this or understanding that there is more than m

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-16 Thread PT
> The left is always right with you isn't it. We have been over this. I lean left in some areas and right in others. I guess I am moderate. I don't know. I wonder if you have trouble seeing this or understanding that there is more than my side and their side to most things. The reason i

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-16 Thread Sam
The left is always right with you isn't it. Why are you not mad at the Fed for taking money from the poor? . On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:22 AM, PT wrote: > > It is, if you consider it is a comedy in a "I can't believe this" kind > of way. > > So, a Republican is getting into a pissing contest w

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-16 Thread Sam
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Vivec wrote: > > Why even introduce measures that would remove assistance from the poor that > need it on religious grounds? They didn't. It's part of a federal law they are enforcing. It the Dems that decided to play politics and take away the money to make hea

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-16 Thread PT
I should revise that to somewhat under the guise of state's rights. It is obvious there is another agenda, as others have pointed out. On 3/16/2012 11:22 AM, PT wrote: > It is, if you consider it is a comedy in a "I can't believe this" kind > of way. > > So, a Republican is getting into a pissi

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
ideological purity. On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Vivec wrote: > > Why even introduce measures that would remove assistance from the poor that > need it on religious grounds? > > All of a sudden over the last 6 months or so this has been a focus of the > GOP party, to remove health care and

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-16 Thread PT
It is, if you consider it is a comedy in a "I can't believe this" kind of way. So, a Republican is getting into a pissing contest with the Feds over states rights that causes harm in the short term. Sounds about right. They are forcing the Fed's hand, so in a way, they are cutting off the fu

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-16 Thread Vivec
Why even introduce measures that would remove assistance from the poor that need it on religious grounds? All of a sudden over the last 6 months or so this has been a focus of the GOP party, to remove health care and funding from women on the basis that they are possibly using that funding to get

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-16 Thread Sam
This is like an on going comedy. Do you anti-republicans even read the crap you post? "Republican Gov. Rick Perry pledged last week to find state money to keep the program afloat, but he hasn't offered specifics. U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said Friday that the fede

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
no eville commynism is the one hiding under your bed ready to grab you the moment you relax your vigilance from freedom, guns and god. On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > I mentioned Federal taxes and poor people. > > Thats exactly the same as communism. And socialism

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-16 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
I mentioned Federal taxes and poor people. Thats exactly the same as communism. And socialism. On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > And evil commynism. Can't forget the eville commynism. > > ~| Order the

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
And evil commynism. Can't forget the eville commynism. On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > Federal tax money being forced to abortion providers to pay for services > for poor people who just take, take, take from the system in violation of a > state state law based on

Re: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-16 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
Federal tax money being forced to abortion providers to pay for services for poor people who just take, take, take from the system in violation of a state state law based on religious freedom? What's not to love? That sounds like an almost perfect Republican plan. The only thing it is missing is

RE: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-16 Thread Eric Roberts
unity Subject: GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program " The Department of Health and Human Services announced on Thursday that it will cut off all Medicaid funding for family planning to the state of Texas, following Gov. Rick Perry's (R) decision to implement

GOP...can you explain this? 130k women without health program

2012-03-16 Thread Vivec
" The Department of Health and Human Services announced on Thursday that it will cut off all Medicaid funding for family planning to the state of Texas, following Gov. Rick Perry's (R) decision to implement a new law