Re: PRESIDENT TODD!!! (was RE: OMG! I must have one...)

2005-01-20 Thread Larry C. Lyons
inal Message - > From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 6:51 PM > Subject: Re: PRESIDENT TODD!!! (was RE: OMG! I must have one...) > > > You can never get asleep with that glow coming from

Re: PRESIDENT TODD!!! (was RE: OMG! I must have one...)

2005-01-20 Thread Todd Ashworth
Unless you raze anything that's left and build a parking structure :) - Original Message - From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 6:51 PM Subject: Re: PRESIDENT TODD!!! (was RE: OMG! I must have one..

Re: PRESIDENT TODD!!! (was RE: OMG! I must have one...)

2005-01-20 Thread Larry C. Lyons
That and > the neighborhood isn't zoned for 'weapons testing'. > > P.T. > > - Original Message - > From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 5:54 PM > Subject: Re: PRESIDEN

Re: PRESIDENT TODD!!! (was RE: OMG! I must have one...)

2005-01-20 Thread Dana
e - > > From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Community" > > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 5:12 PM > > Subject: Re: PRESIDENT TODD!!! (was RE: OMG! I must have one...) > > > > > What? You don't have your nu

Re: PRESIDENT TODD!!! (was RE: OMG! I must have one...)

2005-01-20 Thread Todd Ashworth
y 20, 2005 5:54 PM Subject: Re: PRESIDENT TODD!!! (was RE: OMG! I must have one...) > you should have just nuked them. > > larry > > > On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:19:05 -0500, Todd Ashworth > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Well, yes, but the Homeowners' Association

Re: PRESIDENT TODD!!! (was RE: OMG! I must have one...)

2005-01-20 Thread Larry C. Lyons
sometimes. > > P.T. > > - Original Message - > From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 5:12 PM > Subject: Re: PRESIDENT TODD!!! (was RE: OMG! I must have one...) > > > Wha

Re: PRESIDENT TODD!!! (was RE: OMG! I must have one...)

2005-01-20 Thread Todd Ashworth
haha no kidding? Small world. He should stop by the IRC channel sometime. Likewise. P.T. - Original Message - From: "Erika L. Walker-Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 5:27 PM Subject: RE: PRESIDENT TODD!!! (wa

RE: PRESIDENT TODD!!! (was RE: OMG! I must have one...)

2005-01-20 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
Speaking of the HOA - ours just contacted me and asked me to apply for a board position. I said yes of course, and now get to wait a couple of weeks to find out who's elected! :D Cheers, Erika -- >>| -Original Message- >>| From: Todd Ashwo

RE: PRESIDENT TODD!!! (was RE: OMG! I must have one...)

2005-01-20 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
OMFG! Phil was like - addicted to that game for months. His username is MrFill. I can't believe it. This game permiates every corner of my life ... Granted he hasn't played it in a couple weeks, thank heavens ... Well it's good to see ya! Cheers, Erika --

Re: PRESIDENT TODD!!! (was RE: OMG! I must have one...)

2005-01-20 Thread Todd Ashworth
t: Thursday, January 20, 2005 5:12 PM Subject: Re: PRESIDENT TODD!!! (was RE: OMG! I must have one...) > What? You don't have your nukes to keep you warm? > > larry > > > On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:07:04 -0500, Todd Ashworth > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >&

Re: PRESIDENT TODD!!! (was RE: OMG! I must have one...)

2005-01-20 Thread Larry C. Lyons
What? You don't have your nukes to keep you warm? larry On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:07:04 -0500, Todd Ashworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now that you mention it, it *is* cold down this way, so making a new > presidential sweater might be a good idea. I'm thinking maybe navy blue > with a big P.T

Re: PRESIDENT TODD!!! (was RE: OMG! I must have one...)

2005-01-20 Thread Todd Ashworth
Wow. What a greeting! O_o I've been busy. The ol' job has been keeping me running every which way. I haven't even been keeping up with the list. I just happened to be on the HoF site today looking for some info on something when I saw "OMG! I must have one...". Th

Re: PRESIDENT TODD!!! (was RE: OMG! I must have one...)

2005-01-20 Thread Jim Campbell
President Todd? Any relation to Emperor Todd? "This is how a harem girl dances" - Jim Erika L. Walker-Arnold wrote: >OMG!!! LOOK!!! IT'S OUR REAL PRESIDENT >TODD! >/me rushes up and hugs and kisses and hugs and kisses until he's >squished and can't breath anymore ... > >WHERE have you

PRESIDENT TODD!!! (was RE: OMG! I must have one...)

2005-01-20 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
OMG!!! LOOK!!! IT'S OUR REAL PRESIDENT TODD! /me rushes up and hugs and kisses and hugs and kisses until he's squished and can't breath anymore ... WHERE have you been young man!!! There's been a country to run and you've been slacking off!!! Knitting sweaters again? :D Good to see ya!!!

Re: OMG! I must have one...

2005-01-20 Thread Todd Ashworth
I look at it and immediately think Piece of S*** SQL >Posselqueue > >-Original Message- >From: William Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 1:18 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: Re: OMG! I must have one... > >> (and I hate the t

RE: OMG! I must have one...

2005-01-20 Thread Sandy Clark
Posselqueue -Original Message- From: William Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 1:18 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: OMG! I must have one... > (and I hate the term Posslq (govt term, Persons of the Opposite Sex > Sharing Living Quarters) How do

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2005-01-20 Thread William Bowen
> (and I hate the term Posslq (govt term, Persons of the Opposite Sex Sharing > Living Quarters) How does one pronounce this acronym? Possle-que? Poss-uhlk? Posslick? <-- 0_0 (startled myself with that one...) -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be

RE: OMG! I must have one...

2005-01-20 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 11:37 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: OMG! I must have one... > > FWIW, I was curious as well. Like Tony said, 'partner' does (to me, > at le

RE: Why partner (was OMG! I must have one...)

2005-01-20 Thread Adkins, Randy
Yeah at times they are very difficult to find. But such is life I guess -Original Message- From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 12:34 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Why partner (was OMG! I must have one...) Oh I don't know, they can

RE: Why partner (was OMG! I must have one...)

2005-01-20 Thread Wayne Putterill
(was OMG! I must have one...) As well, those do exists as well, personally I prefer A live woman than anything else. There is simply no comparison -Original Message- From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 11:37 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE

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2005-01-20 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
>>| -Original Message- >>| From: Kevin Graeme >>| >>| I was just posting some pics of pretty turned bowls for Erika. By the way Kevin - they were damn cool!!! Thanks! Now I REALLY REALLY want a lathe ... Cheers, Erika ~~~

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2005-01-20 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
Hey, I don't make up the rules, I'm just passing the info along. I don't say "partner" I say "hubby" :D >From what I was told - and I don't remember by whom, but it did start over in England one night when I was in the pub drinking Saying partner puts no sexual connotation to it, and gay peopl

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2005-01-20 Thread Deanna Schneider
I know exactly what Kevin means when he says "partner." He's not the only person in Madison from whom I've heard that term. It means they are truly partners in life, but are not married, don't want to be married, are not husband/wife. It doesn't really matter to me if his partner is female, male, o

Re: Why partner (was OMG! I must have one...)

2005-01-20 Thread Kevin Graeme
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:32:50 -0500, Michael T. Tangorre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Regardless of your sexual orientation, why can't we all use: girlfriend, > boyfriend, husband, wife, or significant other? Simply because I don't like the sound of any of those. Girlfriend/Boyfriend is someone y

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2005-01-20 Thread Dana
I've struggled myself with the question of what do you call someone who is living with you that you intend to stay with but that you are not married to. I don't like significant other because it strikes me as coy, and it can equally well mean the guy I am in love with this week. But I too was surp

Re: OMG! I must have one...

2005-01-20 Thread Tony Weeg
word. On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:40:58 -0500, Michael T. Tangorre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Doesn't mean anybody was judging or attacking or worrying > > about your use of the term. Was nothing more than curiousity > > plain and simple. > > W

Re: Why partner (was OMG! I must have one...)

2005-01-20 Thread Tony Weeg
:) On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:42:29 -0500, Michael T. Tangorre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For some reason I first read that as > friends with batteries... > > You were probably thinking BOB: battery operated boy. But... To be all > inclusiv

RE: Why partner (was OMG! I must have one...)

2005-01-20 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > For some reason I first read that as > friends with batteries... You were probably thinking BOB: battery operated boy. But... To be all inclusive you need to think: BOB: battery operated boy BOG: battery operated girl BOP: battery operated

RE: OMG! I must have one...

2005-01-20 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Doesn't mean anybody was judging or attacking or worrying > about your use of the term. Was nothing more than curiousity > plain and simple. Well put. ~| Find out how CFT

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2005-01-20 Thread Adkins, Randy
have one...) For some reason I first read that as > friends with batteries... -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 January 2005 16:00 To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Why partner (was OMG! I must have one...) Friend --> Boyfriend/Girlfriend --&g

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2005-01-20 Thread Charlie Griefer
ssage- > From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 20 January 2005 16:00 > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Why partner (was OMG! I must have one...) > > Friend --> Boyfriend/Girlfriend --> Fiance --> Husband/Wife > > |> friends with b

RE: Why partner (was OMG! I must have one...)

2005-01-20 Thread Wayne Putterill
For some reason I first read that as > friends with batteries... -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 January 2005 16:00 To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Why partner (was OMG! I must have one...) Friend --> Boyfriend/Girlfriend --> Fiance --

Re: OMG! I must have one...

2005-01-20 Thread Charlie Griefer
FWIW, I was curious as well. Like Tony said, 'partner' does (to me, at least) have connotations of same-sex partnerships. Altho I've noticed a few people on the list who use it to mean husband/wife (in heterosexual relationships). I didn't mean any offense in my curiousity as to your (or anybody

RE: OMG! I must have one...

2005-01-20 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > language and usage change. We don't talk like Shakespeare any > more nor like Chaucer. For that matter slang and usage > conventions are very different from just 100 years ago. Even > 50 years ago it was very different. > > In other words its

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2005-01-20 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I use partner once in a while when referring to my wife - although most of the time I just refer to her by name. To me its just an individual preference - using partner etc. larry On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:18:37 -0500, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > seriously, come the fuck on... i mean, r

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2005-01-20 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Why do you care? From your response it's apparent that you > were able to gather from the context that it is someone in my > life. WTF do you care what word I use? > > I was just posting some pics of pretty turned bowls for Erika. Simmer down. I

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2005-01-20 Thread Larry C. Lyons
language and usage change. We don't talk like Shakespeare any more nor like Chaucer. For that matter slang and usage conventions are very different from just 100 years ago. Even 50 years ago it was very different. In other words its just evolution in action. larry On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:58:22 -

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2005-01-20 Thread David Churvis
y 20, 2005 11:18 AM Subject: Re: OMG! I must have one... > seriously, come the fuck on... i mean, really > > we all KNOW what partner means... we really do... its the > softer way of not getting into the "coming out" conversation, > but still making the statement... >

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2005-01-20 Thread David Churvis
Plus it doesn't exactly roll off the tongue... Dave - Original Message - From: "Sandy Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 11:19 AM Subject: RE: OMG! I must have one... > I use partner with Michael. We live t

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2005-01-20 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Very true, my attempts at that typically ended up being kindling for the fireplace. larry On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:52:34 -0500, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That is a skill I admire but do not possess. I can turn handles for things, > and tapered legs, but carving out the interior o

RE: OMG! I must have one...

2005-01-20 Thread Sandy Clark
ing Living Quarters) Sandy -Original Message- From: Adkins, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 10:37 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: OMG! I must have one... Why is that politically correct? Have we become such a society that based on the diversity of cu

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2005-01-20 Thread Tony Weeg
seriously, come the fuck on... i mean, really we all KNOW what partner means... we really do... its the softer way of not getting into the "coming out" conversation, but still making the statement... trust me... i would NEVER EVER say, partner to people i didnt know, as i wouldnt want them

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2005-01-20 Thread Kevin Graeme
Why do you care? From your response it's apparent that you were able to gather from the context that it is someone in my life. WTF do you care what word I use? I was just posting some pics of pretty turned bowls for Erika. Geez. -Kevin On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:21:05 -0500, Michael T. Tangorre <[

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2005-01-20 Thread David Churvis
I don't think it's very panache for gay guys to say "partner" anymore. Usually we just say husband. Dave - Original Message - From: "Erika L. Walker-Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 10:55 AM

RE: Why partner (was OMG! I must have one...)

2005-01-20 Thread Adkins, Randy
Well yes there are those type of Friends as well. -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 11:00 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Why partner (was OMG! I must have one...) Friend --> Boyfriend/Girlfriend --> Fiance --> Hus

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2005-01-20 Thread Tony Weeg
Friend --> Boyfriend/Girlfriend --> Fiance --> Husband/Wife |> friends with benefits :) On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:52:19 -0500, Michael T. Tangorre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[E

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2005-01-20 Thread Jerry Johnson
That is a skill I admire but do not possess. I can turn handles for things, and tapered legs, but carving out the interior of bowls I just don't get. Thanks for sharing. Jerry Johnson Web Developer Dolan Media Company >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/20/05 10:51AM >>> Those look really nice. I'm going

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2005-01-20 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Why not, its more accurate - partner describes all sorts of > situations without the weird parsing. > > It covers being married to someone, living together, > girlfriend, boyfriend etc without digging around for what may > be private informati

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2005-01-20 Thread Adkins, Randy
TED] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 10:55 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Why partner (was OMG! I must have one...) >>| -Original Message- >>| From: Michael T. Tangorre >>| >>| Oh, really? Hey, I don't make up the rules, I'm just passing the info alo

RE: Why partner (was OMG! I must have one...)

2005-01-20 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
>>| -Original Message- >>| From: Michael T. Tangorre >>| >>| Oh, really? Hey, I don't make up the rules, I'm just passing the info along. I don't say "partner" I say "hubby" :D And I could give a fid less what anyone calls anyone for that matter ... >From what I was told - and I don't re

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2005-01-20 Thread Larry C. Lyons
; Someone going to sue me for saying 'girlfriend' rather than 'partner'? > > > -Original Message- > From: Erika L. Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 10:25 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: OMG! I must

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2005-01-20 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > agreed. girlfriend -> fiance -> wife > > my wife doesn't mind being introduced as 'my wife'. altho > for some reason, she does object when i refer to her as 'my > first wife'. :) LOL. Friend --> Boyfriend/Girlfriend --> Fiance --> Husband

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2005-01-20 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Those look really nice. I'm going to have to get a lathe when we're finished the downstairs our house. larry On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:15:17 -0600, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My partner's father is a turner. Here's a couple pieces I happen to > have in my cubicle. > http://www.keving

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2005-01-20 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Adkins, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > How does one determine if someone is more than a girlfriend > but not a wife? > If your not married, should not be a question. Unless your engaged. Yeah, I wanna hear a woman's take on this "partner" BS. ~

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2005-01-20 Thread Charlie Griefer
s, it probably just means "more than girlfriend, less than wife." > > Just my $0.02 :D > - Original Message - > From: "Michael T. Tangorre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 10:32 AM > S

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2005-01-20 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > More than, yes. Less than, no. What is today, "speak_in_tongues_Thursday" ? ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www

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2005-01-20 Thread Adkins, Randy
partner (was OMG! I must have one...) I call my significant other my boyfriend. For gay people, it usually depends on how close the relationship is as well as how comfortable they are with people knowing they're gay. For others, it probably just means "more than girlfriend, less than wi

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2005-01-20 Thread Kevin Graeme
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:38:08 -0500, David Churvis wrote: > I call my significant other my boyfriend. > > For gay people, it usually depends on how close the relationship is as well > as how comfortable they are with people knowing they're gay. For others, it > probably just means "more than girlf

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2005-01-20 Thread David Churvis
riginal Message - From: "Michael T. Tangorre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 10:32 AM Subject: Why partner (was OMG! I must have one...) > > From: Erika L. Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >

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2005-01-20 Thread Adkins, Randy
hing has to be politically correct. Someone going to sue me for saying 'girlfriend' rather than 'partner'? -Original Message- From: Erika L. Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 1

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2005-01-20 Thread Charlie Griefer
well you're just a lil' slut now, aintcha? :) On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:32:50 -0500, Michael T. Tangorre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Erika L. Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > It's politically correct apparently. > > Oh, really? > > Regardless of your sexual orientation, why can

Why partner (was OMG! I must have one...)

2005-01-20 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Erika L. Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > It's politically correct apparently. Oh, really? Regardless of your sexual orientation, why can't we all use: girlfriend, boyfriend, husband, wife, or significant other? When I hear partner I think maybe they play in some pool league t

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2005-01-20 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
It's politically correct apparently. Cheers, Erika -- >>| -Original Message- >>| From: Michael T. Tangorre >>| >>| Why my partner? I have some gay friends and one says >>| "partner" and another >>| one says "girlfriend"... I don't get i

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2005-01-20 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > My partner's father is a turner. Here's a couple pieces I > happen to have in my cubicle. > http://www.kevingraeme.com/images/turned_bowls.jpg What's up with all this "partner" talk. Whatever happened to: My wife My hubsand My boyfriend My girlfr

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2005-01-20 Thread Kevin Graeme
My partner's father is a turner. Here's a couple pieces I happen to have in my cubicle. http://www.kevingraeme.com/images/turned_bowls.jpg The nice two-tone one is spalted birch with a butternut lid. The one with the goofy lid is all butternut. -Kevin On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:57:32 -0500, Erika L

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2005-01-17 Thread Ben Doom
I took cooking with the girls. They put us boys in what was expected to be the remedial group. We routinely got the best scores. In other words, I think I'd probably lose a finger if I had a lathe. I'll stick with my electric mixer. :-) --Ben Erika L. Walker-Arnold wrote: > I was lucky enou

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2005-01-16 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
I was lucky enough years ago to be able to take metal shop with the boys as an elective in school. One of the coolest things we made was a screwdriver. But only because we got to use a lathe :D I was just watching The New Yankee Workshop and he had to make pegs for this really cool bench/table pie