: Dot.net stuff
So I can only speak about what I have seen and I have seen only one buy
CF
server because we showed them how they can benefit from its use.
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, March 08, 2004 12:23 PM
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Subject: RE: Dot.net stuff
> From: Shawn Regan
>
> Well, this is not fully true. Some clients do not own CF
> server but they have a windows server that already has IIS
> which in turn already has ASP. 9 out of 10 clients will
> prefer
I want a drink too... damn!... ;) hehe
Pablo
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From: "Erika L Walker-Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 16:35:35 -0500
>Pablo. Pablo. Pablo.
>
>You completely missed the poinit of my post.
>
Of course I knew that, I was teasin' ya :-)
now Eri*K*a with a K is takin' Benny seriously.
oy.
>A man's doo-hicky is his "tool" didn't you know that?
>
>:D
>
>
>--
>
>
>From: Ben Braver
>
>
>Hmm, me thought you didn't use "tools" ;-)
[T
DING DING DING DING DING
WINNER!!! WINNER!!! WINNER
/me passes a WHOLE BOX of cookies to Matt
Cheers,
Erika
From: Smith, Matthew P -CONT(CSC)
>> You completely missed the poinit of my post.
Ohh, ohh, I know! Your point was "we should wear pants"!
Does I gets a cookie?
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Subject: RE: Dot.net stuff
Pablo. Pablo. Pablo.
You completely missed the poinit of my post.
People that do not read .
/me shakes head drinks more of her cocktail, and offers none to
Pablo ...
From: Pablo Varando
This isnt an argument of which is best (We all already which
A man's doo-hicky is his "tool" didn't you know that?
:D
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From: Ben Braver
Hmm, me thought you didn't use "tools" ;-)
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I had a client who wanted to do exactly that. They wanted to run a transactional 401(k) website for 1 million+ users off a single server running over a 56K dedicated modem. The user validation was through an Access VBA validation module.
After much argument, I built it to spec. Took 4 months to co
Pablo. Pablo. Pablo.
You completely missed the poinit of my post.
People that do not read .
/me shakes head drinks more of her cocktail, and offers none to
Pablo ...
From: Pablo Varando
This isnt an argument of which is best (We all already which is :) )
it is a point that custom
Hmm, me thought you didn't use "tools" ;-)
>Now THIS is infinitely more interesting ...
>
>Hmmm ... which "tool" to use
>
>0_0
>
>/me runs ...
>
>
>From: Kevin Graeme
>> As you were
>
>Okay, pants back off everybody!
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/YOU 'runs' towards or away from the tool? :)
Pablo
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From: "Erika L Walker-Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 16:26:01 -0500
>Now THIS is infinitely more interesting ...
>
>Hmmm ... which "t
Erika,
This isnt an argument of which is best (We all already which is :) ) it is a point that customers are NOT always informed of all the facts.. So therefore many developers/customers belive that because something is simply "free" to put on the server.. it's is the solution.
While I do agree
Kinky... I LIKE it :-)
>> As you were
>
>Okay, pants back off everybody!
>
>-Kevin
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Now THIS is infinitely more interesting ...
Hmmm ... which "tool" to use
0_0
/me runs ...
From: Kevin Graeme
> As you were
Okay, pants back off everybody!
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I asked to do some .NET training.
Manager said sometime in the future -
for now, training has to directly apply
to this year's projects.
So, it looks like more Stellent Content Management training.
This is not a bad thing, just somewhat more specialized...
-Ben
>I went to a dot.net seminar on Frid
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 2:51 PM
Subject: RE: Dot.net stuff
> From: Shawn Regan
>
> I know more and more houses that are making the shift from CF
> to .NET. A lot of the client we have did not want to use CF
> so I slowly moved towards ASP, PERL, PHP and now everyon
> As you were
Okay, pants back off everybody!
-Kevin
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CF versus PHP versus .Net versus ASP ...
PLEASE people ... I thought we all decided that we all use the best tool
for the job?
Some of us specialize in CF and make quite a handsome living with it,
others do the same in ASP ... PHP ... whatever floats their boat.
Do you guys LIKE to argue over wh
> From: Shawn Regan
>
> I do not agree. I have seen applications done in ASP or
> others just as fast as with CF and now with .NET even faster.
> So if you know you can design the application in ASP in the
> same amount of time you could do it in CF then the client
> would most likely pick the
efore I get burned at the stake here, as always, this is MHO. :P
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From: Shawn Regan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 2:11 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Dot.net stuff
I do not agree. I have seen applications done in ASP or others just as fas
> From: Shawn Regan
>
> Well, this is not fully true. Some clients do not own CF
> server but they have a windows server that already has IIS
> which in turn already has ASP. 9 out of 10 clients will
> prefer to us ASP since they do not have to purchase another
> server to handle the website y
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From: Pablo Varando [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 11:51 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Dot.net stuff
While I agree with this comment, I also disagree with it.. :) because if
that company would have had it explained (correctly) that it will take HALF
the time to develop it
Enter Blue Dragon..
HIY!
*Jumps into karate stance*
-Gel
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From: Shawn Regan
Well, this is not fully true. Some clients do not own CF server but they
have a windows server that already has IIS which in turn already has
ASP. 9
out of 10 clients will prefer t
hawn Regan
>Head Applications Developer
>pacifictechnologysolutions
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>
>
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>From: Philip Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 11:51 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: RE: Dot.net stuff
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>> From: Shawn Regan
>>
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From: Philip Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 11:51 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Dot.net stuff
> From: Shawn Regan
>
> I know more and more houses that are making the shift from CF
> to .NET. A lot of the client we have did not
> From: Shawn Regan
>
> I know more and more houses that are making the shift from CF
> to .NET. A lot of the client we have did not want to use CF
> so I slowly moved towards ASP, PERL, PHP and now everyone
> wants to use .NET.
This always makes me laugh...
If you've got a client that wants
>I don't ever see me going away from CF
Yeah, it is all up to what you prefer and what you clients prefer.
Shawn Regan
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From: Ben Densmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 11:30 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Dot.net stuff
I've
More than Attempt from what I here. I think this type of GUI for an OS would
and will be really cool!
Shawn Regan
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From: Smith, Matthew P -CONT(CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 11:26 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Dot.net stuff
>&g
n Regan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 2:21 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Dot.net stuff
I know more and more houses that are making the shift from CF to .NET. A
lot
of the client we have did not want to use CF so I slowly moved towards
ASP,
PERL, PHP and now everyone wants
e-
From: Shawn Regan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 1:21 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Dot.net stuff
I know more and more houses that are making the shift from CF to .NET. A lot
of the client we have did not want to use CF so I slowly moved towards ASP,
PERL, PHP and n
re you can guess what it will do and you know it will be part of
the .NET framework.
Shawn Regan
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From: Smith, Matthew P -CONT(CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 10:59 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Dot.net stuff
I just had 3 weeks of trai
I just had 3 weeks of training on it, and was very impressed with the environment Visual Studio and the framework provide. I plan on doing much of my new work in it as well, as our shop is slowly migrating completely over the .net from cf. We will still be doing maintenance and a little new work
> From: Andre Turrettini
>
> For example, we've switched part of our dev to perl and I'm
> stunned at how much faster this language is than cf on the
> execution! Sure its a bit slower to develop in but if I get
> a site that needs huge thruput, I'll strongly consider doing
> it in perl. So
And you can OOP with PERL :) Been using it here and there since 97.
Shawn Regan
Head Applications Developer
pacifictechnologysolutions
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From: Andre Turrettini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 8:48 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Dot.net stuff
knowledge is power and like it or not your a knowledge worker.
For example, we've switched part of our dev to perl and I'm stunned at how
much faster this language is than cf on the execution! Sure its a bit
slower to develop in but if I get a site that needs huge thruput, I'll
strongly conside
> I know it sounds like I'm being a winer
If you eat while doing that, you can be a winer and diner. ;-)
-Kevin
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> From: Marlon Moyer
>
> Yeah, actually they want us to go to 2 weeks training every
> year. I wanted to go to flash training, but I'll probably
> end up doing some dot net stuff.
>
> I know it sounds like I'm being a winer, but it just feels
> like I've been fighting an uphill battle for too
Well,
Think of it as another string to your bow. I'm doing exactly the same thing.
Adam
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From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 March 2004 15:46
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Dot.net stuff
Yeah, actually they want us to go to 2 weeks tra
27;ve got to concede defeat.
Marlon
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> From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 9:45 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Dot.net stuff
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> > Arrrgh. I'm going to have to start giving up a bunch of free
> Arrrgh. I'm going to have to start giving up a bunch of free time to
learn
> this.
If your office is pushing MS, are they willing to at least send you to
professional development courses to get you up to speed?
-Kevin
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