Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-14 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Given that the ancient Greek pharmacopoeia had quite a few intense hallucinogens, its definitely possible. But remember it was John who wrote Revelations. In the desert with a lot of fasting. and for all we know a fair amount of exotic mushrooms and various flowers. On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:08 P

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-14 Thread Judah McAuley
Paul was, supposedly, in Corinth when he wrote those letters. Corinth is definitely not a desert. I can't discount the thought that he may have been high and/or having a flashback however. Judah On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > or the person is on some pretty intense

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-14 Thread Larry C. Lyons
or the person is on some pretty intense hallucinogens. thing is fasting in a desert type environment does leave one susceptible to that type of hallucination. And also given that at that when the revelations were written, people had good access to some fairly strong hallucinogens. So you have to

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-14 Thread G Money
gt; interpretation I've ever come across, nor do the 144,000. I just > answered the specific questions you asked. > > -Original Message- > From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:06 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: For

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-14 Thread Casey Dougall
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > I thought that the idea of the Rapture started with Paul. I had to > look it up, but it is 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 > > "According to the Lord's own word, we tell you that we who are still > alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord,

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-14 Thread Judah McAuley
pecific questions you asked. > > -Original Message- > From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:06 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas! > > > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at

RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-14 Thread Sisk, Kris
stions you asked. -Original Message- From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:06 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas! On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > > Revelation talks

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-14 Thread G Money
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > > Revelation talks about the 144,000 but there's a lot of debate as to > exactly what it means. We know from other passages that it doesn't refer > to the number of people who will be saved as the number of people saved > is specifically desc

RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-14 Thread Sisk, Kris
il.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 10:01 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas! On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > > Funny thing about the Rapture...it's not mentioned anywhere in the > Bible. > It's no

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-14 Thread G Money
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > > Funny thing about the Rapture...it's not mentioned anywhere in the > Bible. > It's not? I guess i'm not positive what you mean by Rapture, but doesn't Revelations talk about the 144,000 being saved on the day of reckoning...the 4 riders of

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-14 Thread Casey Dougall
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 1:31 AM, Robert Munn wrote: > didn't you hear, it's still 140 years until the Age of Aquarius. > 150 years, 2060, but I'm still going with 2012! You can't start count from birth of Christ, that's just silly. Sir Isaac Newton, Rob Hand, and Dane Rudyhar all say 2060. If

RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-14 Thread Sisk, Kris
Funny thing about the Rapture...it's not mentioned anywhere in the Bible. -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:13 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas! I have a bump

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Maureen
Life as we knew it ended for me on Harmonic Convergence. Nothing has been the same since, so I can only assume the world ended and I am in some twilight netherworld of global communication and gorgeous men. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > didn't you hear, it's still 140

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Robert Munn
didn't you hear, it's still 140 years until the Age of Aquarius. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Maureen wrote: > > I have a bumper sticker that says "When you leave in the rapture, can > I have your car?" > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:10 AM, William Bowen > wrote: >> >> quitters... ~~~

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Maureen
Current scholarship places the original writings between 50-150 AD, with the Pauline letters dated the earliest, and II Peter the latest. None of the originals survive. 50 AD is only a slightly over a decade after then crucifixion of Christ, not 300+ years. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Eric

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Maureen
I have a bumper sticker that says "When you leave in the rapture, can I have your car?" On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:10 AM, William Bowen wrote: > > quitters... > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com

RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Eric Roberts
-Original Message- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 4:17 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas! On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > Some may not agree, but I don&#x

RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Eric Roberts
-Original Message- From: Sisk, Kris [mailto:ks...@gckschools.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 3:22 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas! Some may not agree, but I don't consider Judaism to be a separate religion. After a

RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Eric Roberts
. -Original Message- From: Rick Eidson [mailto:cfh...@kchost.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 2:13 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas! That's it eh? A giant Fart from the Gulf of Mexico! Rick -Original Message- Fr

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Judah McAuley
You should give it a read sometime. It is a principle Gnostic gospel, though it doesn't go as far as some of the Gnostic movement (from what I understand). I found portions of it definitely wacky (and it has been a good 15-odd years since I read it) but it really does a good job showing the divers

RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Sisk, Kris
>What is your opinion on the Gospel of Thomas? It doesn't seem to be >any later than the canonical gospels, yet represents a drastically >different way of viewing early Christianity. I'm not familiar with that one. I know that there were several reasons that various gospels were rejected other th

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Judah McAuley
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > Some may not agree, but I don't consider Judaism to be a separate > religion. After all, Christ himself was a Jew. As for the Gnostics, most > of them were rejected for good reason (for instance many of them didn't > appear until centuries afte

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread morchella
my Dad still thinks something about being born in 1948 and some verse about when the generation of Israel passing away blah blah blah.. Bring it.. burn the mother down.. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.am

RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Sisk, Kris
>Why is that better, out of curiosity? And how did the Council of >Carthage not mix and mingle religions together to form Christianity? At the >very least, they selectively took elements of Judaism and >combined it with some of the teachings of the Apostles while rejecting >others, such as the Gno

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Judah McAuley
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > > Not quite but there are quite a few similarities. For instance I observe > the Sabbath on the same day (Saturday) and in the same way as a Jew > would and I follow an almost kosher diet (my food doesn't have to be > kosher killed or blessed

RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Sisk, Kris
At least the pool they chose from all claimed to have to do with my own religion. -Original Message- From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 2:53 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas! On Tue, Jul 13,

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread G Money
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > > The Bible may have been decided by committee, but a selection narrowed > down by a committee from a larger pool is better than mixing and > mingling other religions to form your own. > Why is that better? -- I've seen your flag on the mar

RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Eric Roberts
e layout of the Vatican, the four square pattern, was a sacred Pagan Roman pattern. -Original Message- From: Robert Munn [mailto:cfmuns...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 2:00 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas! Even the peopl

RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Sisk, Kris
PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas! Does that make you a Jew then? I can't take people who rely on the Bible seriously. What constitutes "the Bible" was decided on by committee. If you base your religion on the work of a comm

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Judah McAuley
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > > Heh. It's not limited to Spain. You'd be shocked how much paganism snuck > into the church around the third or fourth century. Even the Pope's hat > has its origins in paganism. It's so bad that there are several > denominations that threw o

RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Rick Eidson
That's it eh? A giant Fart from the Gulf of Mexico! Rick -Original Message- From: Robert Munn [mailto:cfmuns...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:50 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas! Read "The Golden Ass&

RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Sisk, Kris
in the Bible and started over (in case you hadn't guessed, I belong to one of those). -Original Message- From: Robert Munn [mailto:cfmuns...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 2:00 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Robert Munn
Even the people that are nominally Christians are not necessarily really Christians. I took an anthropology course in Spain where the teacher walked us through all of these wacky, ancient rituals that local people around Spain followed, and he showed how they were pagan rituals from pre-Christian

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Robert Munn
Read "The Golden Ass", it is a Roman story about the cult of Isis. They were preaching the end of the world thousands of years ago. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07/12/methane_bubble_of_doom/ > >

RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Sisk, Kris
. -Original Message- From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:28 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas! On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > > I think it just wasn't as big a deal b

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread G Money
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > > I think it just wasn't as big a deal because there are > so few Christians these days > Watchoo talkin' bout Willis? (God rest GC's soul) 2.1 - 2.3 BILLION of ya around the globe, almost double the next closest religion. Ya'all are everyw

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread William Bowen
quitters... :-D > Same thing happens at the turn of just about every century.  There was a > Christian fundamentalist movement that thought the end of the world was > going to happen in 1800, then again in 1850, then again in 1900...I think > they finally gave up after the 3rd time didn't come

RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Sisk, Kris
meone telling me it was just around the corner. -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:00 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas! Same thing happens at the turn o

RE: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Eric Roberts
ginal Message- From: Ian Skinner [mailto:h...@ilsweb.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 10:24 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas! On 7/13/2010 8:07 AM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07/12/methane_bubble_of_doo

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread G Money
That is fascinating reading. Nothing amazes me more than the Heaven's Gate folks. It justit staggers the imagination, the levels of delusion to which we are capable. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 10:37 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > > > On a related note, have people always been convinced the w

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> On a related note, have people always been convinced the world was going > to end tomorrow and I've just never noticed till now or is it a recent > trend? It's definitely nothing new - here's some fun reading: http://www.abhota.info/end1.htm

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Ian Skinner
On 7/13/2010 8:07 AM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07/12/methane_bubble_of_doom/ > > Bit of amusing junk science and conspiracy theory. Good for a laugh > though. > > On a related note, have people always been convinced the world was going > to end tomorrow and I've just

Re: Forget 2012. BP's gonna kill us all before Christmas!

2010-07-13 Thread Jerry Johnson
I can point you to some used Koolaid containers, a whole bunch of barely used black sneakers, or a firesale on a nice Texas compound. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > > On a related note, have people always been convinced the world was going > to end tomorrow and I've just