I'd just as soon drop the subject also. I don't agree with you but
really don't care very much about Dan Rather
Dana
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:50:38 -0800, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Great idea.
Cheers.
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:43:28 -0600, Jim Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm
Sam, that's completely disingenuous; if the court had no choice then
it would have been a 9-0 decision; and if the law were very clear,
there would have been no dissenting opinion. If the entire purpose of
the court system is simply to rubberstamp laws and never interpret the
application
Because it is evident that any recount seeking to meet the December
12 date will be unconstitutional for the reasons we have discussed, we
reverse the judgment of the Supreme Court of Florida ordering a
recount to proceed. Seven Justices of the Court agree that there are
constitutional problems
let me get this straight. You're trying to prove that the US Supreme
Court decision was
fair by quoting from that decision?
It was by no means evident that recounting votes was unconstitutional.
Dana
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:11:02 -0800, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Because it is evident that
Jim Said they didn't agree.
Seven Justices of the Court agree
The only disagreement is as to the remedy.
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:21:17 -0700, Dana wrote:
let me get this straight. You're trying to prove that the US Supreme
Court decision was
fair by quoting from that decision?
It was by
I asked you before to stop posting out of context to try to prove a
point. The you chose to insert into the first paragraph
conveniently glided over this:
See post, at 6 (Souter, J., dissenting); /post/, at 2, 15 (Breyer, J.,
dissenting).
And even that particular ruling was over
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:54:54 -0600, Jim Campbell wrote:
I asked you before to stop posting out of context to try to prove a
point. The you chose to insert into the first paragraph
conveniently glided over this:
Oh stop it. I found it that way.This line adds absolutly nothing anyway:
I'm harping on stupid shit because I think you're tilting at windmills,
seeing some scurrilously blatant bias where it's just not (in your
example, not in general), and I just plain feel like being
argumentative, I think. Besides, we're way off track, so let's shake
and call it even.
- Jim
Great idea.
Cheers.
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:43:28 -0600, Jim Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm harping on stupid shit because I think you're tilting at windmills,
seeing some scurrilously blatant bias where it's just not (in your
example, not in general), and I just plain feel like being
I like the reporter that asks the tough question. Force the person to admit,
publicly, that they are unwilling to answer the question. Sometimes this can
be just as damning as an unfavorable answer. But once you've gotten that,
let it go.
What annoys me is the reporter who asks the question,
who would be an example of this?
Dana
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 08:07:52 -0600, G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I like the reporter that asks the tough question. Force the person to admit,
publicly, that they are unwilling to answer the question. Sometimes this can
be just as damning as an unfavorable
Wasn't it Rather who kept pressing H.W. in that interview that turned nasty
back in the 80's? I think the issue was the Iran Contra mess. H.W. didn't
want to answer the tough question (imagine that), and it turned into one of
these pestering situations. I mean, when they refuse to answer the
Not Biased? Dan Rather, In His Own Words
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/3/9/164921.shtml
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 07:00:31 -0700, Dana wrote:
Getting back for a minute tothe discussion about the current state of
the media, I was struck by the following:
One way a reporter in this
I know I could count on you to kick the guy in the ass as he headed
out the door. I can't quite stomach accusations of bias from a site I
consider extremely biased, not just now. Might read it later.
I told you yesterday, Dan Rather is irrelevant at this point. The
topic here is, I think this is
Sam
OK, I've had a look at your your link. How can you stand that site? I
am going to have to go wash now. Anyway, it seems to think that
quoting someone as saying that George Bush is wrong, is bad. People do
say these things you know. Is he supposed to not mention it? Nor does
it give any
European reporters, especially British reporters are far more direct and
aggressive in their line of questioning than what I see in the US.
US reporting pales by comparison to what you find on the BBC and in shows such
as HardTalk.
-Gel
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 12:22:47 -0700, Dana wrote:
Anyway, it seems to think that
quoting someone as saying that George Bush is wrong, is bad.
Good evening. Texas Governor George Bush tonight will assume the
mantle and the honor of President-elect. This comes 24 hours after a
sharply split and,
Now is he reporting the news or is he a commentator?
It doesn't sound any more inflammatory than this:
Good evening. Vice President Al Gore tonight will assume the
mantle and the honor of President-elect. This comes 24 hours after a
sharply split and, some say, politically and ideologically
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 12:23:49 -0800, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 12:22:47 -0700, Dana wrote:
Anyway, it seems to think that
quoting someone as saying that George Bush is wrong, is bad.
Good evening. Texas Governor George Bush tonight will assume the
mantle and the honor
politically and ideologically motivated U.S. Supreme Court
Is that a fact or an opinion.
Shoud the news be loaded with the reporters personal opinons? Or
should that be left to the Opinion segment?
Why didn't he say:
Some say a politically and ideologically motivated U.S. Supreme Court
handed
politically and ideologically motivated U.S. Supreme Court
- is an opinion
... some say, politically and ideologically motivated U.S. Supreme Court
- is a fact
Don't selectively quote out of context to try and make a point.
Now, he could have said what you suggest, but that sounds to me more
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 15:14:41 -0600, Jim Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now, he could have said what you suggest, but that sounds to me more
like mollycoddling
Jim wins the wacky word of the day award! Mollycoddling, mollycoddling!
To me, that language sounds like it's telling social
Come on, surely even you don't believe stating some say gives
journalists the liberty to spread any rumor they want?
To report SOME SAY Sen. Byrd is a racist because he was a recruiter
for the KKK is a true statement but is it a fair? No, they should then
mention he has denounced the KKK. (I think
because that would be editorializing. Rather, on the other hand, gave
his audience credit for knowing that some does not mean all.
Especially since from what I remember of that election there was
pretty much non-stop coverage of both sides for about three weeks.
Dana
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005
You give him way too much credit.
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 15:34:59 -0700, Dana wrote:
because that would be editorializing. Rather, on the other hand, gave
his audience credit for knowing that some does not mean all.
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Discover
Doesn't matter, he's still planted the thought.
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 15:34:59 -0700, Dana wrote:
because that would be editorializing. Rather, on the other hand, gave
his audience credit for knowing that some does not mean all.
Especially since from what I remember of that election there was
what I said, exactly, was that I think he is getting a bum rap. I
suspect that Karl Rove planted the story in the first place, actually.
Nonetheless, the facts did not get checked well enough, and that's a
problem. Unquestionably. But given the length and breadth of the man's
career it doesn't
::shrug:: I give most people too much credit.
Dana
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 14:40:07 -0800, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You give him way too much credit.
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 15:34:59 -0700, Dana wrote:
because that would be editorializing. Rather, on the other hand, gave
his audience
oh please. I have to hear this from someone who still maintains that
the Bushies never said Iraq was responsible for 9/11
Dana
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 14:43:47 -0800, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Doesn't matter, he's still planted the thought.
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 15:34:59 -0700, Dana wrote:
I prefer cash, but i'll take whatever you're willing to give :)
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 15:46:16 -0700, Dana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
::shrug:: I give most people too much credit.
Dana
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 14:40:07 -0800, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You give him way too much credit.
On
I understand where you're coming from, Sam. I'm sure I could find some
egregious examples of the some say... line regarding Clinton being a
drug lord or Bush being a cokehead from NewsMax or Atrios or what have
you, and I'm not one to blindly defend Dan Rather, or any news anchor
for that
I would appreciate it if you would flesh that out a little. It sounds
like you're saying that the very idea of opposition to the Supreme
Court's decision was only disseminated by Dan Rather, and I'm sure
that's not what you meant.
- Jim
Sam wrote:
Doesn't matter, he's still planted the
ah, thank you for bringing that up. I meant to and got distracted by
all of rest of the... stuff.
Dana
inflammatory or libelous/slanderous comments. And exactly at what time
during the 2000 elections was the considerable presence of people
disagreeing and calling the Supreme Court
In that context, it could be read as him reporting on the
controversial aspect of the decision. Some DID say that. Is it remiss
for him to point that out?
I agree that some say is often used as a subtle jab, and it may be
here too. But it's also factually accurate.
-Kevin
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 16:54:27 -0600, Jim Campbell wrote:
And exactly at what time
during the 2000 elections was the considerable presence of people
disagreeing and calling the Supreme Court politically motivated a
rumor? I suppose you've also heard the fairy tales about bipartisan
you mean like some say the mideast deserves democracy and some say
that Iraq has WMD???
By the way, small lesson in journalism 101, what is common knowledge
does not require attribution. I would say it was common knowledge that
the motives of the court were being questioned.
Dana
On Thu, 10 Mar
fuck
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What everyday object starts with an f and ends with uck?
:-)
Firetruck, but that is probably really two words. Can't think of anything
else yet
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What everyday object starts with an f and ends
Fire Truck?
-Gel
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What everyday object starts with an f and ends with uck?
:-)
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Firetruck.
Cheers,
Erika
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A good hard f uck ;)
How do I know it's an object... Most times the missus would object to it ;)
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What everyday object starts with an f
firetruck???
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What everyday object starts with an f and ends with uck?
:-)
That isn't an object
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fuck
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Umm..fuck is not an object...
O_O
-Gel
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fuck
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opps missed OBJECT
shit
umm
damn
or a
darn
golly
gosh
geez
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Fire Truck?
-Gel
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yep! :-)
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Fire Truck?
-Gel
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What
Didn't say it was a single word.
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Firetruck, but that is probably really two words. Can't think of
anything
else
fire truck
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hey, i didn't say it couldn't be two words ! :-)
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Firetruck, but that is probably really two words. Can't
What everyday object starts with an f and ends with uck?
Firetruck, but that is probably really two words. Can't
think of anything else yet
He didn't say it couldn't be 2 words...
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Rick
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What everyday object starts with an f and ends with uck?
Firetruck, but that is probably really two words. Can't
think of anything else yet
He didn't say it couldn't be 2 words...
Philip
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fuck
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What everyday object starts
Fried duck.
Hey, I like oriental food, OK?
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