Yeah right, nothing to see here, everything is just fine.
Move along.
.
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 11:09 AM, G Money wrote:
>
>
> We're in a depression?!!!
>
> Man...why am i always the last one to hear about these things?!?
>
> (*5 seconds of research later*)
>
> Oh, wait, nevermind, our economy
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Sam wrote:
>
> He brought us from a recession to a depression and doesn't seem tH
>
We're in a depression?!!!
Man...why am i always the last one to hear about these things?!?
(*5 seconds of research later*)
Oh, wait, nevermind, our economy is actually growin
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Gruss Gott wrote:
>
>
> It's been done in the sense that humans feel safe in cliques and Obama
> is an easy target as an outsider: sort of black, weird up bringing in
> Hawaii, spent time in strange lands around strange religions, etc.
Stop with the racist BS al
G Money wrote:
> The republican leadership finally realized that this idiocy was just
> alienating them from people like me...you know, the ones who will actually
> decide this next election? So they're trying to get their minions to drop it
> already. Might work, but the damage may already be do
Is that why when republicans go on Fox, they are birthers, but when they go
on CNN they take his word on it? Please...
-Original Message-
From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 11:20 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Sarah Palin's Grandson Trig
O
They are tired of hearing how stupid they are making the rest of republicans
sound?
-Original Message-
From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:chumph...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 11:15 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Sarah Palin's Grandson Trig
> You really th
It's not that they don't believe he was born in HI, they want any
excuse to get rid of him and do you blame them?
.
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
>
> You really think that Republicans don't support this birther crap? You just
> keep reinforcing that idea that you are
This has been a non issue for years, Trump brought it up to mock the
Republicans as did Gruss.
Actually, Obama's personal friend, the new Gov of HI brought it back
into the headlines. I always suspected he did it because it wasn't in
the news anymore.
.
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 12:19 PM, G Mone
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Eric Roberts <
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> You really think that Republicans don't support this birther crap? You
> just
> keep reinforcing that idea that you are delusional Sam.
>
Uh, have you not been paying attention? Behind the scenes the RN
> You really think that Republicans don't support this birther crap? You just
> keep reinforcing that idea that you are delusional Sam.
Anecdotally, I hear more complaints from my listeners when I bring up
a "birther" story than anything else. They are tired of hearing about
it.
Hatto
~~~
You really think that Republicans don't support this birther crap? You just
keep reinforcing that idea that you are delusional Sam.
-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 09:18 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Sarah Palin's Gra
You still pretending you work for Obama or are you still auditioning?
You know Trump is doing this as a publicity stunt because he could never win.
But, a three way race would guarantee an Obama win.
At the very least the birther argument is a great Alinsky tactic to
paint the GOP as crazy.
T
Sam wrote:
>
> Plus republicans have nobody that can win yet. And lets not forget
> they picked the worst of the bunch last go round.
>
Depending on what's in his financial disclosures, his campaign
tolerance, and his ability to take the heat Trump could win.
Obama has really sucked as a leader
You jumped the shark, yet again.
.
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Gruss Gott wrote:
>
> Scott Stroz wrote:
>>
>> Even if she is lying she is a full-on hardcore wack-a-doodle.
>>
>
> That's true. Having read this story, here's my supposition:
>
> (1.) The child is hers
>
> (2.) They didn't
Hillary lost for a lot of reasons, none being the debate. Obama faired
poorly in all the debates. Except of course for the fainters and
droolers that just love to hear his voice.
No doubt he'll likely win again just like Clinton did after an awful
first four years. Most dems got fired while he go
Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> Even if she is lying she is a full-on hardcore wack-a-doodle.
>
That's true. Having read this story, here's my supposition:
(1.) The child is hers
(2.) They didn't tell any family, friends, or the public because they
were considering abortion.
(3.) She won't show the b
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 3:39 AM, Gruss Gott wrote:
>
> The best case scenario here is that she's lying, because if she's
> telling the truth the lady is full-on hardcore wack-a-doodle.
Even if she is lying she is a full-on hardcore wack-a-doodle.
I spent quite a few years in EMS and saw plenty
He beat Hillary Clinton in the Democratic Primary in an election that
was hers to lose. That is no small feat. If Republicans are going to
underestimate him again they might as well pack up and go home because
he has already won the 2012 election.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Sam wrote:
>
>
Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> And yet...you are only interested in seeing Ms. Pailin's son's birth
> certificate.
>
You know, not to beat a dead horse but I just for kicks I ran a quick
google and there are some really disturbing things about this whole
topic.
(1.) This is more just interesting. Turn
Ever see Palin speak without her hands?
-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 11:16 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Sarah Palin's Grandson Trig
Did you ever hear Obama speak without a teleprompter?
.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 11:
I think that has already been established Robert...
-Original Message-
From: Robert Munn [mailto:cfmuns...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 10:16 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Sarah Palin's Grandson Trig
dude, you're f***ing kidding, right?
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011
The new Gov, Abechrombie, is the one that watched the birth and
changed it to saw him as a child. He's also the one that said the BC
ain't there. He's a dem and a personal friend.
.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 11:15 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
>
> I believe he said that his director of human services
Did you ever hear Obama speak without a teleprompter?
.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 11:16 PM, Robert Munn wrote:
>
> dude, you're f***ing kidding, right?
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Sam wrote:
>>
>> Palin has 30 IQ points over Obama easily. Yet Tina Fey has you
>> convinced those numbers
No Palin's mouth has convinced us that it is way lower...
-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 09:31 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Sarah Palin's Grandson Trig
Palin has 30 IQ points over Obama easily. Yet Tina Fey has you
22, 2011 09:24 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Sarah Palin's Grandson Trig
Current, and he said he was going to settle this once and for all.
Then told a reported he couldn't find it. Doesn't exist. Then silence.
.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
>
>
dude, you're f***ing kidding, right?
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> Palin has 30 IQ points over Obama easily. Yet Tina Fey has you
> convinced those numbers are reversed and you all run with it.
>
> .
~|
Order
Since you're so hyped up about documentation, I assume you have the IQ
tests for both of them, right?
She could have 130 IQ points over for all I care. She has no common
sense and is heavily brainwashed. That doesn't equal intellect to me.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> Palin
Palin has 30 IQ points over Obama easily. Yet Tina Fey has you
convinced those numbers are reversed and you all run with it.
.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Maureen wrote:
>>
>> They aren't really interested in her son's birth certif
Ah, so now if you question Obama you're racist.
Nice defense.
.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Maureen wrote:
>
> They aren't really interested in her son's birth certificate, they
> just want a weapon with which to embarrass her politically.
>
> Those after Obama's birth certificate have a
s all of Barak's
>> life said something to that effect as well. Why don't you take him at his
>> word then too?
>>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 03:11 PM
>> To: cf-community
>&g
Current, and he said he was going to settle this once and for all.
Then told a reported he couldn't find it. Doesn't exist. Then silence.
.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
>
> Same can be said with Obama...the Current gov of Hawaii (or is it the
> former...I dont remember
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Maureen wrote:
>
> They aren't really interested in her son's birth certificate, they
> just want a weapon with which to embarrass her politically.
Which is kind of funny. I mean, can she be anymore embarrassed politically?
>
> Those after Obama's birth certific
They aren't really interested in her son's birth certificate, they
just want a weapon with which to embarrass her politically.
Those after Obama's birth certificate have a different agenda, and a
different root reason for doubting it. They want the black man out of
office.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011
And yet...you are only interested in seeing Ms. Pailin's son's birth
certificate.
Interesting. Not at all surprising, but interesting none the less.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 8:23 PM, Gruss Gott wrote:
>
> Scott Stroz wrote:
>>
>> Once again, you aim your sites at Pailin.
>
> I have no sites, I'
omething to that effect as well. Why don't you take him at his
>> word then too?
>>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 03:11 PM
>> To: cf-community
>> Subject: Re: Sarah Palin's Grand
Sam wrote:
>
> There are witnesses, real people that saw him that day.
>
You realize you're on the crazy side of Michele Bachmann, right?
Michele Bachmann.
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f Barak's
> life said something to that effect as well. Why don't you take him at his
> word then too?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 03:11 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Sarah Palin
Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> Once again, you aim your sites at Pailin.
I have no sites, I'm simply a commentator. (<- smile queue)
If Ms. Palin believe politics is a dangerous neighborhood for her
children then she should move out. That's what responsible parents
do.
Further, if a parents believes
Once again, you aim your sites at Pailin. As I have said, I recall
seeing the Obama girls with their father during the campaign, so why
not focus on Obama as well? Being that he is president, one could
argue if there was any 'damage' doen to his children during the
campaign, it has only been magni
tt Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 01:16 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Sarah Palin's Grandson Trig
>
>
> To me, this is the difference.
>
> If Pailin is not Trig's mother, she could still legally serve as president
> (as frig
lto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 03:11 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Sarah Palin's Grandson Trig
There are witnesses, real people that saw him that day.
.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Gruss Gott wrote:
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Sam wrote:
>>
show the birth
certificate...or is she hiding something ?
-Original Message-
From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 01:16 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Sarah Palin's Grandson Trig
To me, this is the difference.
If Pailin is not Trig's mother, she
Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> A good point. I guess I got so riled up by Gruss' insane scenarios I
> was unable to see the humor. Sorry.
>
There's this thing called "high concept" where you take something (a
meme, an idea, a trend, etc) and you extrapolate it out to it's
extreme possible conclusion.
T
A good point. I guess I got so riled up by Gruss' insane scenarios I
was unable to see the humor. Sorry.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Maureen wrote:
>
> Stroz, you truly need a humor transplant.
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>>
>> He claimed the little girls he wa
And to think, I actually missed you...
Why are you so focused on Pailin?
Why are you not asking for the birth certificates of President Obama's
children, or Vice President Biden's children (or any other
politician's children for that matter)? Didn't President Obama claim
the little girls are hi
There are witnesses, real people that saw him that day.
.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Gruss Gott wrote:
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Sam wrote:
>>
>> At least we know which hospital Trig was born in
>>
>> ;)
>>
>
> I don't think we do. The hospital he was claimed to have been bo
Stroz, you truly need a humor transplant.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> He claimed the little girls he was dragging around with him were his children.
>
> I assumed that most on this list would be intelligent enough to
> understand the point I was trying to make. Obvio
Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> This is like trying to explain alternate side fo the street parking to
> an avocado.
>
Now you're getting it! It's simple about Ms. Palin's veracity NOT Trig.
Took awhile, but I think you've got it now.
If you get confused again, just let me know!
~
This is like trying to explain alternate side fo the street parking to
an avocado.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Gruss Gott wrote:
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Sam wrote:
>>
>> At least we know which hospital Trig was born in
>>
>> ;)
>>
>
> I don't think we do. The hospital he was
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> At least we know which hospital Trig was born in
>
> ;)
>
I don't think we do. The hospital he was claimed to have been born in
never released his name in the people born there that day and Palin's
doctor simply said, "the child was born".
Maybe
He claimed the little girls he was dragging around with him were his children.
I assumed that most on this list would be intelligent enough to
understand the point I was trying to make. Obviously, I was mistaken.
Won't happen again.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Maureen wrote:
>
> Ah, Molly.
At least we know which hospital Trig was born in
;)
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Gruss Gott wrote:
>
> Scott Stroz wrote:
>>
>> Why are you limiting it to VP candidates?
>
> No limits brutha! Updated to reflect suggested edit.
>
>>> I'll run through it again, but I'll de-identify it and m
I'd sell tickets to take. If men had to have every other child, no
family would ever have more than three children.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:40 PM, G Money wrote:
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Maureen wrote:
>
>>
>> President Obama claimed he gave birth to his children? Wow!!! Call
>
Maureen wrote:
>
> President Obama claimed he gave birth to his children? Wow!!! Call
> the National Enquirer. Someone needs to look into this.
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
>> Again, President Obama made the same claims about his children and
>> brought the 'onto
Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> Why are you limiting it to VP candidates?
No limits brutha! Updated to reflect suggested edit.
>> I'll run through it again, but I'll de-identify it and maybe that will
>> amplify the point:
>>
>> (1.) [candidate] brought [something] onto the campaign trail and
>> made [
In Soviet Russia, the babies give birth to you?
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 3:40 PM, G Money wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Maureen wrote:
>> President Obama claimed he gave birth to his children? Wow!!! Call
>> the National Enquirer. Someone needs to look into this.
>>
> In Kenya, men
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Maureen wrote:
>
> President Obama claimed he gave birth to his children? Wow!!! Call
> the National Enquirer. Someone needs to look into this.
>
In Kenya, men give birth to the babies.
~|
O
President Obama claimed he gave birth to his children? Wow!!! Call
the National Enquirer. Someone needs to look into this.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
> Again, President Obama made the same claims about his children and
> brought the 'onto the campaign trail'.
~~
Ah, Molly. Yes. I miss her a lot. Also, I'm following a lot of
smart women on Twitter, notably Rosanne Cash. She's sharp, funny and
dead on with some of her commentary.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
>
> I rather liked Molly Ivins.
~~
Why are you limiting it to VP candidates?
Again, President Obama made the same claims about his children and
brought the 'onto the campaign trail'. So, again, I ask, why limit
this to a very specific group of politicians?
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Gruss Gott wrote:
>
> Scott Stroz wrote
I rather liked Molly Ivins.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Maureen wrote:
>
> If intelligent women bothered me, I'd have a hard time looking in the
> mirror. I don't really define Palin as intelligent, although she is
> certainly cunning.
>
> Hate Pelosi, don't know much about Dowd, Polit
C. Hatton Humphrey wrote:
>
> Political Science General Order #1: POLITICIANS LIE.
>
That, sir, is ignorant of Political Science General Order #2:
And it's up to the public (and journalists) to catch them at it.
E.g., Watergate.
Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> Right, and President Obama made the same claim about his children.
>
> So, my question to you is, why are you limiting this to Pailin.
I'll run through it again, but I'll de-identify it and maybe that will
amplify the point:
(1.) [VP candidate] brought [something] onto th
> The question is simply whether Ms. Palin is a liar. Nothing more, nothing
> less.
>
> What or who the possible lie is about is of no consequence.
>
> We shouldn't want liars as Vice Presidents, so Ms. Palin simply needs
> to prove she's not a liar. She made a campaign trail claim that is
> re
She's a politician. Of course she's a liar.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Gruss Gott wrote:
>
> The question is simply whether Ms. Palin is a liar. Nothing more, nothing
> less
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If intelligent women bothered me, I'd have a hard time looking in the
mirror. I don't really define Palin as intelligent, although she is
certainly cunning.
Hate Pelosi, don't know much about Dowd,Politically, I can't
really think of any that I like. The Dems are all for too much
government
Doesn't Obama and Biden lie every day?
At least once a week.
.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Gruss Gott wrote:
>
> We shouldn't want liars as Vice Presidents, so Ms. Palin simply needs
> to prove she's not a liar. She made a campaign trail claim that is
> reasonably questionable and she si
Right, and President Obama made the same claim about his children.
So, my question to you is, why are you limiting this to Pailin. Should
you not be requesting this of every politician who has claimed another
human being is their child, wife, mother, father, etc...?
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 2:54
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Gruss Gott wrote:
>
> We shouldn't want liars as Vice Presidents, so Ms. Palin simply needs
> to prove she's not a liar.
>
Newsflash: Every single Vice President in the history of the United States
has, at one time or another in their life, told a lie. It's not
Sam wrote:
>
> I love that intelligent woman bother you.
> Which woman do you admire? Nancy Pelosi? Maureen Dowd?
>
Wait. What do intelligent women have to do with this?
I thought we were talking about Ms. Palin?
~|
Order the
Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> To me, this is the difference.
>
> If Pailin is not Trig's mother, she could still legally serve as
> president (as frightening as that may be).
>
The question is simply whether Ms. Palin is a liar. Nothing more, nothing less.
What or who the possible lie is about is of
I love that intelligent woman bother you.
Which woman do you admire? Nancy Pelosi? Maureen Dowd?
.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Maureen wrote:
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
>> I loathe Pailin, I really do. But let's leave her family (those still
>> minors) out
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Maureen wrote:
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
>> I loathe Pailin, I really do. But let's leave her family (those still
>> minors) out of it. Trig has done nothing wrong, its not his fault his
>> mother is a bloody lunatic.
>
> Which is
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Gruss Gott wrote:
>
> The questioning of Mr. Obama should be dropped and we should insist on
> seeing documentation from Ms. Palin's campaign claim
And we should insist on seeing documentation from Mr. Obama's campaign
claim about his children, right? I hate to s
You think maybe she should have hid him in shame?
.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Gruss Gott wrote:
>
> Scott Stroz wrote:
>>
>> What claim? I think you are comparing apples to Volkswagons. I do not
>> think Trig is going to be running for public office anytime soon, so
>> why would his bi
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
> I loathe Pailin, I really do. But let's leave her family (those still
> minors) out of it. Trig has done nothing wrong, its not his fault his
> mother is a bloody lunatic.
Which is true regardless of whether the mother is Sarah or Bristol.
To me, this is the difference.
If Pailin is not Trig's mother, she could still legally serve as
president (as frightening as that may be).
If Obama is not a citizen(as unlikely as that may be), he cannot (as
far as I understand) legally serve as president.
Proving the former would only make her
Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> What claim? I think you are comparing apples to Volkswagons. I do not
> think Trig is going to be running for public office anytime soon, so
> why would his birth certificate come into question?
>
It's really quite simple: Ms. Palin introduced him on the campaign
trail as
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Gruss Gott wrote:
>
>
> So in that sense, investigation over, case closed.
>
> For Ms. Palin's claim we've seen no such document. So let's see the
> document with all of the qualifications mentioned above and call 'er a
> day.
What claim? I think you are compa
I know right, what was she thinking to not abort the child.
.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Gruss Gott wrote:
>
> Sam wrote:
>>
>> Trig didn't apply for the job.
>>
>
> I know. It's so sad that Ms. Palin was selfish enough as to make him
> a part of it.
~~
Sam wrote:
>
> Trig didn't apply for the job.
>
I know. It's so sad that Ms. Palin was selfish enough as to make him
a part of it.
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Trig didn't apply for the job.
.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Gruss Gott wrote:
> Some people claim Ms. Palin was indeed pregnant and even though a
> birth certificate has never been released, we don't need it because of
> those people.
>
> So Ms. Palin, release the certificate and just e
Actually only one governor. The New guy said he couldn't find it but
there's a piece of paper that mentions a baby back in '61
.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Gruss Gott wrote:
>
> Scott Stroz wrote:
>>
>>> The point being that false claims made by public officials -
>>> especially candid
Sam wrote:
>
> Trig Trutherism: The definitive debunker
>
> http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2011/04/22/sarah_palin_trig_conspiracy_theory
>
Except for the definition sucks. If you read this entire piece it can
be summed up this way:
Some people c
Scott Stroz wrote:
>
>> The point being that false claims made by public officials -
>> especially candidates for President / Vice President! - should be
>> investigated.
>
> How do we know a claim is false unless we investigate it?
>
Excellent point!
So with Pres Obama we've got a released doc
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Gruss Gott wrote:
>
> The point being that false claims made by public officials -
> especially candidates for President / Vice President! - should be
> investigated.
How do we know a claim is false unless we investigate it?
--
Scott Stroz
---
You
Trig Trutherism: The definitive debunker
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2011/04/22/sarah_palin_trig_conspiracy_theory
.
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Sam wrote:
> Gov. Neil Abercrombie can't find the birth certificate he promised to produce.
Gov. Neil Abercrombie can't find the birth certificate he promised to produce.
Weird huh?
.
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Gruss Gott wrote:
>
> Sam wrote:
>> I love the conviction. Some left leaning sites tell you there's
>> nothing to see here so you look obediently away.
>>
>
> I resent
Sam wrote:
> I love the conviction. Some left leaning sites tell you there's
> nothing to see here so you look obediently away.
>
I resent that! I only obediently listen to Mitt Romney:
"I think the citizenship test has been passed. I believe the president
was born in the United States."
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Gruss Gott wrote:
>
> Having listened to and considered Mr. Trump's birther arguments I've
> determined them to be crap based on a review of facts from factcheck,
> politifact and others.
I love the conviction. Some left leaning sites tell you there's
nothing to
That and she made him part of her campaign, with takes him off of the off
limits list...
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From: Gruss Gott [mailto:grussg...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 13:01
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Sarah Palin's Grandson Trig
Jerry Milo Johnson wrote:
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Still a dickish move to question the legitimacy of a child's parents.
But maybe that's just me.
I don't like being a jerk and hurting children.
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Gruss Gott wrote:
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> Jerry Milo Johnson wrote:
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>> The difference for me is that Obama is a grown man that has
I'm torn. I mostly agree with Jerry but also acknowledge the fact that
it is Palin herself who brought the whole thing into the public realm.
She has been far from shy about inserting her family life into the
public debate which does tend to change my opinion on what is fair
game.
Fortunately, in
Jerry Milo Johnson wrote:
>
> The difference for me is that Obama is a grown man that has placed
> himself in the public arena.
>
> Trig is a child, who has not made such a choice.
>
> To me, he is off limits.
>
Sarah Palin is a grown woman who has placed herself in the public
arena - and made t
The difference for me is that Obama is a grown man that has placed
himself in the public arena.
Trig is a child, who has not made such a choice.
To me, he is off limits.
Jerry
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Gruss Gott wrote:
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> Having listened to and considered Mr. Trump's birther argument
Having listened to and considered Mr. Trump's birther arguments I've
determined them to be crap based on a review of facts from factcheck,
politifact and others.
Granted there are some things there to make you wonder - like why
Obama doesn't release the long-form, but either way he's got the
requ
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