On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 11:42 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just for argument's sake - in a P4 (2.54Ghz), it is VERY difficult to get
up
to $4,300. I spec'ed out what you just said, included a 17 flat screen,
80GB HD, etc, and I didn't come up with $4300. Much closer to $3500.
The
On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 11:17 , Neil Robertson-Ravo =TMM= wrote:
I think price is not really issue at the mo (surely peripherals are so
cheap that building your own is probably cheaper!?)
Neither I nor my wife can be bothered with that - we want a standard,
vendor-supported machine.
bah html email is the best thing to happen to email :)
Better than attachments eh? ... html has zero to do with the purpose of
email ... and personally I have yet to see it actually improve the viewing /
reading experience... I realize that puts me on the other side of the fence
from most
On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 12:29 PM, Jesse Noller wrote:
But my OS is better. And Cheaper.
OS/2 WARP WILL NEVER DIE.
Jesse Noller
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Macromedia Server Development
Unix/Linux special guy
If CP/M can't do it, it's not worth doing!
Dick
Good points, but they are still not sturdy enough for
hi-end client or any type of server environment.
I know you are a Mac-man and indeed will push it much
like a Microsoftian :-p but in this case you can go on
and on about it, and it will still always come down to
the fact that
The IsNumeric() approach is better than using RegEx. Less overhead.
cfif not isnumeric(form.job_amount)
cfset error_message = blah blah...
/cfif
And after I went and poked fun at you, you backed me up. :)
Isaac Dealey
Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
www.turnkey.to
954-776-0046
But from the users perspective, the form is NOT secure (no warm, fuzzy
lock icon) and they don't know (or have any reason to then expect) that
the form submission will be secure...
Ah... Thanks guys... My curiosity is cured.
That was going to bug me the rest of the day... :)
Not so fast, mister!
The function you describe would be more appropriately
named isInteger(). ;-)
Patrick
-Original Message-
From: S.Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 3:42 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: regexp
Try this:
^[0-9]+$
A string
Well, he asked for RegEx and I gave him RegEx. The IsNumeric is better but I got
directly into teaching mode. :)
Try this:
^[0-9]+$
A string must start (^) with a number ([0-9]), at least one number must
exist (+) and the string ends after one or more numbers ($).
Oooh oooh! ...
Not to mention isNumeric() in J's post is ... well, illegal. It already
exist in CF and it'll throw an error. Heh, to bad we can overwrite those
functions like you can in flash. ;)
~Todd
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Michael Dinowitz wrote:
Well, he asked for RegEx and I gave him RegEx. The
Well, he asked for RegEx and I gave him RegEx. The IsNumeric is better but
I got directly into teaching mode. :)
Yea, it happens to all of us at one point or another. :) I wish I could get
paid for teaching this stuff, that would be awesome. :)
Isaac Dealey
Certified Advanced ColdFusion
Not so fast, mister!
The function you describe would be more appropriately
named isInteger(). ;-)
Patrick
Aha! The brass comes out. :) Yea, you're right... I'm sure there was a
rationalle for IsNumeric() validating integers... I guess then there is a
case for using REGex in a function to
On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 12:12 PM, Neil Robertson-Ravo =TMM=
wrote:
Hi Dick :-)
Good points, but they are still not sturdy enough for hi-end client or
any type of server environment. I know you are a Mac-man and indeed
will push it much like a Microsoftian :-p but in this case
Not to mention isNumeric() in J's post is ... well, illegal. It already
exist in CF and it'll throw an error. Heh, to bad we can overwrite those
functions like you can in flash. ;)
Who's J? ... Yea, I knew it was illegal, it was just for the purpose of the
jab. :) I could have said function
You could use a snippet...
-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 3:21 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: regexp
Not to mention isNumeric() in J's post is ... well, illegal. It already
exist in CF and it'll throw an error. Heh,
You could use a snippet...
LOL... I had 2 simultaneous mixed responses to this:
1) Oooh oooh! ... wait ... nope, nevermind, you lost me...
and
2) Now that's just silly.
Isaac Dealey
Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
www.turnkey.to
954-776-0046
-Original Message-
From: S.
cfsetting showdebugoutput=Yes
Put in my application.cfm, the templates do not append the debug info at
the end of the templates. What have I missed?
Regards,
Eric J Hoffman
DataStream Connexion
www.datastreamconnexion.com
Delivering Creative Data Solutions
Just to bring this thread back onto topic and then end it, Mastering Regular
Expessions 2 is out.
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/regex2/
The best price is at buy.com while the best chance of getting it within the next week
or two is going directly to O'Reilly.
is it setup in the admin? is there another of these tags in one of those
files that sets it back to no?
-Original Message-
From: Eric Hoffman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 4:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Show debug output (easy slice of cheese to the winner)
You have to enable debugoutput in the admin as well - and double check
that the ip isn't restricted to an ip you're not testing from.
===
Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Macromedia
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yahoo
Shared server, no idea in adminno other tags giving any other
directive. This setting in application.cfm should override anything
setup at the host I imagine.
Regards,
Eric J Hoffman
DataStream Connexion
www.datastreamconnexion.com
Delivering Creative Data Solutions
-Original
[^0-9]
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Kodjo Ackah wrote:
Hi,
The snippet below does check to ensure that a user puts in a digit in a
form.
The problem is - if I test this code like adding a letter to the digit
it does not flag the error.
I will like to ensure that only digits are allowed and if
2 things,
first, you have to enable debug in the CF administrator AND you have to add
your IP address to the list of Ips enabled for debugging. You will see the
debug info without having to use the cfsetting showdebugoutput=yes
setting. Instead, you will use this attribute to turn debugging
Guys I might be dumb here, but I have a routine that it set to run from 8am
to 10pm every 60 minutes.
My file deletes files on the server recreates and then populates with info
from database. After which the information is deleted from the database and
another server picks the file up and then
Just to bring this thread back onto topic and then end it, Mastering
Regular Expessions 2 is out.
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/regex2/
The best price is at buy.com while the best chance of getting it within
the next week or two is going directly to O'Reilly.
Sorry Mike. :)
Isaac Dealey
Can anyone recommend a good way to filter ' etc out of forms so on the
action page the SQL does not crash?
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CFX_CyberCash will likely never be updated to work with CFMX since
Verisign wants everyone to move to PayFlowPro. since i'm not ready
to do that (and since their PayFlowPro tag doesn't work reliably in
CFMX yet either), i wrote my own custom tag which calls out to their
Perl MCK using
Guys I might be dumb here, but I have a routine that it set to run from
8am
to 10pm every 60 minutes.
My file deletes files on the server recreates and then populates with info
from database. After which the information is deleted from the database
and
another server picks the file up and
It depends on the email that sent the spam. It also depends on if it
looks like they are using a shotgun to hit emails. A lot of times I
will see in the TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], mike... etc...
like they are just guessing.
I just forward the spam to abuse emails if they come
Speaking of OS/2.you can now run that on Virtual PC (Mac or Windows)
-Original Message-
From: Jesse Noller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 2:30 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: X-server?
But my OS is better. And Cheaper.
OS/2 WARP WILL NEVER DIE.
Jesse
I kind of had a feeling this was the case. Thanks. If it still fails I'm
just going to batch it with Windows.
-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:22 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Schedule Task
Guys I might be dumb here,
Chad Gray wrote:
Can anyone recommend a good way to filter ' etc out of forms so on the
action page the SQL does not crash?
cfqueryparam
Jochem
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Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at
Can anyone recommend a good way to filter ' etc out of forms so on the
action page the SQL does not crash?
There's no need to filter single or double quotes out of the form to prevent
sql from erroring unless you're also using PreserveSingleQuotes() ... CF
escapes single quotes automatically
Is that a new tag? I see it mentioned a few times and I have never used
it. I will start reading. :)
-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 4:30 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: watching a form for illegal SQL characters
Chad
Hello all
Does anyone know how to run CFFILE without passing it a form field name.
Want to copy files from one directory to another on the same server, but
when I try
CFDIRECTORY ACTION=LIST DIRECTORY=c:\dir1 NAME=getfiles
CFOUTPUT query=getfiles
CFIF getfiles.name NEQ . and getfiles.name NEQ
Nope, CFQUERYPARAM is a super great tag, it has many plus's, but the
interesting one is that it boosts performance on queries. It's kinda
inbetween not using stored proceedures and stored proceedures ... it allows
the database server to prefigure-out the query so it doesn't have to do it
over
Here's how it's supposed to work:
Task Scheduling:
When cfexec.exe is started up, and again at intervals of [Scheduler Refresh Interval]
minutes, cfexec updates a list of scheduled tasks which is kept in memory.
--Only tasks with a Start Date less than or equal to the Current Date are
if I try
CFFILE ACTION=COPY
I get these errors
The parameter is incorrect. (error 87).
The device is not ready. (error 21).
-Original Message-
From: Bruce, Rodney S HQISEC/SIGNAL
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 2:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFFILE
Hello all
Try the copy
cffile action=COPY source=c:\inetpub\getfiles.name#
destination=c:\wwwroot\#getfiles.name#
Paul Giesenhagen
QuillDesign
- Original Message -
From: Bruce, Rodney S HQISEC/SIGNAL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 4:37 PM
On 8/1/02, Dick Applebaum penned:
I will challenge you on the development side.
Me too. Anything I do on my Mac gets done much quicker than when I
try and do the same thing on Windows. Just little things, like when I
want to hilite and select a block of text. Click, drag, and when you
get to
Hi,
I am trying to rewrite an old custom tag of ours that takes in a query and
outputs it with right options selected. Nothing too tricky...except that I
can not work out how to get around using evaluate.
Anyone got any pointers?
This is the code:
cfoutput query=caller.#attributes.query#
I just tried to pull up my MX server and for some reason I can not
get any pages to come up. Everything seems fine, Jrun.exe is loaded
and taking up no CPU. So I go take a look at the Event Viewer.
At 1:17pm I got around 20 of these errors:
The Open Procedure for service ColdFusion MX
Dan - you wrote:
2) In IIS, for that directory or subdomain, go to properties and choose
the
directory tab. Change the 'When connecting to this resource, the
content
should come from:' option to 'A redirection to a URL', and enter in the
redirect to box /people.cfm?person=$0. (use the help on
In this case, I believe you do need to use evaluate (unless you are on
MX!). However, your code will use N evaluates, where N is the rowcount.
You can get around this by doing one:
cfset theQuery = evaluate(caller.#attributes.query#)
Then your code gets MUCH easier:
cfoutput query=theQuery
S. Isaac Dealey wrote:
Can anyone recommend a good way to filter ' etc out of forms so on the
action page the SQL does not crash?
There's no need to filter single or double quotes out of the form to prevent
sql from erroring unless you're also using PreserveSingleQuotes() ... CF
escapes
Yikes...
cfqueryparam value=#Form.SubLongDesc# cfsqltype=CF_SQL_LONGVARCHAR
maxlength=255
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-Original Message-
From: Debbie Dickerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:41 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Schedule Task
Here's how it's supposed to work:
Task Scheduling:
When cfexec.exe is started up, and again at intervals of [Scheduler Refresh
This also happens to be my problem with the Pet Store Flash app. Where
is the lock?
--
Jon
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thursday, August 1, 2002, 3:57:21 PM, you wrote:
TS But from the users perspective, the form is NOT secure (no warm, fuzzy
TS lock icon) and they don't know (or have any reason
That would mean making the root directory a redirect, which I don't think
you want to do, unless none of your other URLs are at the root. Sure you
can't convince him to use a subdomain? bossman.mydomain.com? Some kind of
ego boost to get him to go for it?
On the mod_rewrite, I'm not following
: CFFILE ACTION=UPLOAD FILEFIELD=#filetomove# DESTINATION=D:\temp\
: NAMECONFLICT=ERROR
This action assumes that someone is uploading a file thru the web. You want
something like:
cffile action=copy source=c:\source.txt destination=d:\backup\
You may want to check against the directory you're
Is it me, or has anyone else noticed there's a REALLY strong push for =
Flash lately at all the CFUGs and conferences?? Is there any particular =
reason for this?
I like Flash - don't get me wrong. But I view it as a GUI frill that I =
doubt I can sell to my clients who want a functional
S. Isaac Dealey wrote:
There's no need to filter single or double quotes out of
the form to prevent
sql from erroring unless you're also using
PreserveSingleQuotes() ... CF
escapes single quotes automatically and since the string
is bound by single
quotes, double-quotes produce no
You didn't happen to take the phrase from, say, a Word document, paste it
into a form field, and then submit it?
-Original Message-
From: Chad Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 4:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: watching a form for illegal SQL characters
I think Flash Remoting has some pretty powerful advantages, but... I don't
think they have pushing Flash anymore than they already have been for
years. I think people will slowly start to come out with some powerful
Flash Remoting (aka Rich Clients) that will blow away some of the regular
I'm assuming in the future when everyone has DSL or Cable. Flash is a viable
client side application you can push to your clients since it works well
with dynamic languages such as ColdFusion.
Nathaniel
-Original Message-
From: Bonnie E. Betts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday,
oi Bonnie!!
I don't think the push is to be over and above coldfusion.but to
compliment it. It seems their biggest push is to get away from the
skip intro stereotype of flash, but to show it can be used for web
application..with a pretty front end.
-
Critz
Macromedia
I'll admit I'm pretty much a brain washed MM Partner, but I'd say
they're pushing Flash for a number of reasons.
1) You can build a full web application with it now via Flash Remoting.
VERY easily I might add.
2) It isn't just for movies and intros, BUT the public still thinks it
is, we as
Is it me, or has anyone else noticed there's a REALLY strong
push for Flash lately at all the CFUGs and conferences?? Is
there any particular reason for this?
Sure. MM sells CF, MM sells Flash, MM would like more money!
On a more serious note, though, I think that MM's strategy is to push
To me it's not a matter of selling them ColdFusion or selling them
Flash. You sell them an application. Whether it uses HTML or Flash as
the interface is a detail. Our company is about to rebuild a CMS, and
we'll be switching from dHTML to Flash for the trickier parts of the
interface (e.g. drag
Macromedia's push for Flash is not about over and above CF development.
It's about separating application functionality from content display. This is win-win
for both the website visitor and your business clients:
A number of companies have already saved tons of money in bandwidth cost - I
Hmmm, seems I've got that stereotype as well then. Ok I could sell 3 and 4
easily enough to the IT Director. I personally find skip intro stuff a
waste of my time and view it as appropriate for entertainment sites and
sales pitches.
Anyone have any links for sample sites using Flash in a
Also, features like Flash Remoting allow a much more robust client-side
tier of an application.
I certainly am no expert, but understand that an intelligent Flash
client can dynamically generate and invoke SQL requests and Web services
with much of the logic at the client and efficient,
My only issue with the Rich Client thing is... well... there's only one
branden hall in the world and Mr. Watts, I'm sure you're doing a good job
keeping him busy. Seriously, to truly be a good developer into Flash
Remoting, I think we'd have to have that much knowledge, because as it
1) You can build a full web application with it now via Flash
Remoting.
VERY easily I might add.
Easily as compared to what? Certainly not as compared to just HTML and
CFML.
3) Server load, if you build an application with Flash, the amount of
data that needs to be pushed back and forth
Here we go this is a little of what I'm looking for:
we'll be switching from dHTML to Flash for the trickier parts of the
interface (e.g. drag and drop pages, building trees, etc). It's just
easier for us and more reliable.
Would luv more of this (well, and links showing this in
Well another problem is that Flash is associated as a tool for graphics
artists. The IT departments I've been dealing with are full to the hilt
with programmers and no creatives. And the prejudice is you need to be a
graphics person to create any decent Flash.
Bonnie E. Betts
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Agreed ... I've been working a side project in Flash, and luckily most of my
time is spent in CFStudio writing ActionScript to control objects that
someone else has developed in Flash. When I have to manipulate things in
Flash I tend to be glad there's a punching bag in the basement! Some
Anyone have any links for sample sites using Flash in a
business application?
I remember Dave Watts posting a message with a link to an org-chart that was
done in Flash in response to a post about org-charts built on CF... Though
when I looked at it, I must admit, I found it very confusing ...
-Original Message-
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 4:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Does Macromedia have some current strong Flash agenda?
1) You can build a full web application with it now via Flash
Remoting.
VERY easily I might add.
Well there is a vacuum right now in this particular space. Java
applets have fallen into disfavor as a rich client platform. ActiveX
has always had negatives, and is being replaced with .Net ever so
slowly. So if there ever was a time to push Flash the time is now I
guess.
Reasons to sell Flash?
I solved the Flash MX problem by hiring one of the guys who wrote the
Flash MX certification test and is writing the accompanying book. I also
know at least two other Flash MX developers in the Bay Area that are up
to speed on Flash remoting now.
Matt Liotta
President CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
Compared to Flash 5.
Well that doesn't have very much appeal for ColdFusion people without
Flash experience.
Etrade has a stock quote component on their home page. People would
put
the quote in, reload the whole page to get the data. They changed it
to
a Flash piece, only that changed.
So would we! ;-) Just ideas on paper at this stage. I guess that's the
problem all around. We have the potential to work in new and interesting
ways, but there are few examples, so it's a bit of a leap of faith.
Personally, I believe rich clients are the way of the future. It's just
a matter of
We have sell a product (Alchemy EX Studio) as part of our Alchemy EX
suite that is completely Flash MX based.
Matt Liotta
President CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
V: 415-577-8070
F: 415-341-8906
P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: Bonnie E. Betts
http://www.siteobjects.com is a fantastic example: take
a close look at their new logo. :)
Isaac Dealey
(remembering an old IBM commercial)
At least it doesn't have flames shooting out the top of it... Then again,
http://www.thrave.com/ looks cool. =P
~Todd
Todd Rafferty ([EMAIL
That's my point... Flash developers. I'm talking about the need for Flash
/ CFMX developers to be _1_ person. It will take time for this to happen,
it's not going to happen overnight. I still think it's important to have
people that are GREAT in CFMX and then other people that are GREAT in
Well sometimes CF developers have to adapt. They're out their learning
CFCs and other new CFMX functionality right now. I trust that if they
need too, they'll be smart enough to learn some Flash too.
I disagree about your last point.
If your whole site is in Flash it loads once. The Flash
That is just one example. While I am sure you or others can think of
other examples like that one -- I certainly can -- the example is just
using a Flash piece embedded in an html page. MM has proposed doing
away
with html entirely for a Flash front-end. In those cases I don't see
the
That's my point... Flash developers. I'm talking about the
need for Flash
/ CFMX developers to be _1_ person. It will take time for
this to happen,
I don't think this has to happen at all. I can create the CFCs the flash
needs, and the Flash developer can take it from there...
It is always going to be more cost effective to have two specialized
people (Flash and ColdFusion developer) than one person who is ok at
both. It took me all of an hour to get going with Flash MX and start
creating real applications. Is it a wise use of my time? Not in a
million years. UI people
Yeah no kidding! I sure can't convince them it's cheaper to hire two
different developers! And I sure would hate to think of the old days when
programmers designed the GUI :(.
At least now, a GUI is created and design templates formed. And then the
programmers can build functionality till the
At 12:18 PM 8/2/2002 +1200, you wrote:
That's my point... Flash developers. I'm talking about the
need for Flash
/ CFMX developers to be _1_ person. It will take time for
this to happen,
I don't think this has to happen at all. I can create the CFCs the flash
needs, and the Flash
The way of the future? I remember seeing my first image on a web
page on yahoo ages ago...must have been 94-95. Seven years later we
just have a bunch more pictures on the web page, and the most
successful web site in existence right now still has just one.
I'd love to play with Flash...it's a
If your whole site is in Flash it loads once. The Flash movie is
equal
to one or two rich HTML pages in size. Perform more than two
functions
on your site and you're then passing less data than you would via
HTML.
That's the simplified version of how it works. I doubt Talkers really
cares
Well correct me if I'm wrong Matt, but if you first preload a flash
movie (in this case, the entire UI) and then with each navigation
click
you simply request the raw data from within the Flash movie, wouldn't
it
make sense that the bandwidth needs would be less than a non
Flash-based
site?
And you are making assumptions as well here. A *GOOD* Flash developer
would design the Flash interface to be lightweight, preload once (or as
minimal as possible), and minimize the size of his/her Flash movies. No
different is the argument that CFML is slow. Those of us that know CFML
know
True, but a well rounded person would know the in's and out's of
both...
achieving that Guru status has it's merits you know...
That is only true for some languages. I have obtained proficiency and
mastery in more languages than most and I doubt I will ever be a
proficient Flash developer.
any ideas why this wont run?
here is my code.
cfexecute name=cx_run.bat arguments=in_123.xml out_123.xml /
and here is the error?
Cannot execute cx_run.bat
Windows NT error 2 occurred.
The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier
of (CFEXECUTE), occupying
That is absolutely not true. A good Flash developer will create a UI
that meets the business requirements of the application and allows a
user to easily make use of it. That may or may not use more bandwidth
than an html based application with the same business requirements.
Matt Liotta
S. Isaac Dealey wrote:
cfset string=~'; DROP TABLE tablename --
cfquery
SELECT * FROM tablename WHERE field = '#string#'
/cfquery
It will result in the table being dropped, and CF will not
filter out
the DROP statement, even if you restricted its use (at
least in MX).
Use cfqueryparam.
Matt
Are you telling me you won't be a flash guru anytime soon? :-P Just poking
fun... I baited that email pretty well I see. :-)
~Todd
At 05:31 PM 8/1/2002 -0700, you wrote:
True, but a well rounded person would know the in's and out's of
both...
achieving that Guru status has it's
Steve
Are you going to publish this tag.
I have a client I am developing a 2-tier shopping cart. Tier 1 will
accumulate the order and will post XML directly to the Manufacturer's
ASP site through Tier 2 (when it is in operation). Tier 1 will process
the order in a traditional manner if the
Error 2 means The system cannot find the file specified.
Have you tried the full path to the file?
HTH,
--
Howie Hamlin - inFusion Project Manager
On-Line Data Solutions, Inc. - www.CoolFusion.com - 631-737-4668 x101
inFusion Mail Server (iMS) - The Award-winning, Intelligent Mail Server
Etrade has a stock quote component on their home page. People would
put the quote
in, reload the whole page to get the data. They changed it to a Flash
piece, only
that changed. Saved around $400 million for them in bandwidth
charges.
In the Macromedia seminar I attended last week, Mike
C'mon Tom! $4 million, $400 million, what's the difference. ;-)
More money than we'll see in a lifetime. ;-)
Just teasing,
~Todd
At 07:48 PM 8/1/2002 -0500, you wrote:
Etrade has a stock quote component on their home page. People would
put the quote
in, reload the whole page to get the
I heard 400 from someone. It seemed like a lot. I like 4.
Thanks,
t
**
Tyler M. Fitch
Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
ISITE Design, Inc.
615 SW Broadway Ste. 200
Portland, OR 97205
503.221.9860 ext. 111
Fine Matt, I'm right, you're wrong. We'll all deal with it.
Imagine a e-commerce site in Flash and in HTML.
A user comes in and compares multiple products, over and over again
because they can't make up their mind and because they don't care about
how much data they take in.
In Flash, with
Fitch, Tyler wrote:
Etrade has a stock quote component on their home page. People would put
the quote in, reload the whole page to get the data. They changed it to
a Flash piece, only that changed. Saved around $400 million for them in
bandwidth charges.
What did XMLHTTP do again?
wow 4 million in bandwidth...
point well said is that why even use Flash any number of solutions via
Javascript or other stuff via DHTML...
Flash is nice for things like this though undoubtedly... don't let me try to
rain on the Flash party
I just get a little peeved myself with the
Fitch I'd say your assessment is a reasonable one...
Thing is I still consider Flash in it's infancy...It's been an a very big
initial push for MX...I think after one or two more iterations we'll begin
to see the bigger picture...and by that time it'll be feasible to
incorporate into day to day
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