IIS, wont install - business almost shut
down for 2 days now.
Andrew,
Isn't this also a violation of the NDA?
- Calvin
-Original Message-
From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 9:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install
The problem was solved...the thread is deador please start a I'm not a
lawyer but I still know better than everybody else regarding NDAs thread.
This is not directed at any one person
Cheers
Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
Well, I don't think anyone said anything about knowing more about NDAs than
anyone else...
-Original Message-
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 10:55 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut
down
While it hasn't been yet in the top banner area of the MM site that I've
noticed... What's up with that?
-Original Message-
From: Matt Woodward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 8:14 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business
for 2 days now.
Andrew,
Isn't this also a violation of the NDA?
- Calvin
-Original Message-
From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 9:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut
down for 2 days now
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 11:21:45 +1100, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A persons view on why software is rushed to market is not NDA, and is a view
of mine
However, you prefixed your view with this comment Having been
privileged to NDA information here is my point of view. - implying
that
Updating this thread with a link to the new thread having the resolution.
(Watch the wrap!)
http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/messages.cfm/threadid:38658/forumid:4
I always hate it when I google a result on a mailing list to find that the
thread terminated and was picked up elsewhere.
Thanks Steven, I was unsure how to do that. I thought about adding
the resolution to the bottom of this one, but I figured lots of people
will be totally annoyed with this one and not read it, but a new
thread meant this one didnt have the resolution to it.
Good idea. Thanks.
Cheers
Mike
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 13:03:11 +1100, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Having been privileged to NDA information here is my point of view.
This product was rushed to be released there are some very serious bugs in
this product, and due to being reminded of my NDA on another list I'll say
Not to mention, most people still think Macromedia is a huge club with
large numbers of employees. You see the same issues with Breeze, where
it has been priced higher (towards Enterprise) on purpose because of
insufficient service resources :) Questions on the Breeze forums stay
unanswered.
install - business almost shut
down for 2 days now.
Thanks Doug. Actually I didnt say whether it was the multiserver
version or not. I installed the single server IIS version.
As for whether it works on XP or not, I'm not about to rebuild my
entire dev enviironment, JUST to try out a new program
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Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 10:36 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut
down for 2 days now.
No, I doubt the it was because of other programs. I always shut down just
about everything - habit from the good old DOS
Andrew,
Isn't this also a violation of the NDA?
- Calvin
-Original Message-
From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 9:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut
down for 2 days now.
Greg,
Having
-Talk
Subject: RE: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut
down for 2 days now.
Andrew,
Isn't this also a violation of the NDA?
- Calvin
-Original Message-
From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 9:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE
Until Macromedia pro-actively starts marketing on ColdFusion in other
countries and put some of their Flash/Contribute resources to the dark
side these issues continue and resources stay limited. That starts with
a larger announcement on the MM landing page, not some itsy bitsy tiny
CF box ;)
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Sent: vrijdag 25 februari 2005 14:14
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost
shut down for 2 days now.
Until Macromedia pro-actively starts marketing on ColdFusion in other
countries and put some of their Flash/Contribute resources to the dark
CFMX just needs more exposure.
You got that right Micha...but I stopped barking up that tree a few years
ago...my throat was getting sore ;-)
Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
phone: 250.480.0642
fax: 250.480.1264
cell: 250.920.8830
CFMX 7 was in (may still be in) that top banner area on many of the non-US
Macromedia sites.
Ahh...but Matt...people need to know Macromedia sites exist before they can
see the banners ;-)
OK...here's a stellar example locally (I'm in Victoria ,BCwest coast of
Canadaor near Seattle
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:16:07 -0800, Bryan Stevenson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now I know MM is east coast...
We're headquartered in San Francisco and that's where most of our staff are.
I am presenting to the Seattle CFUG on March 10th (and will be in
Surrey, BC for a cat show immediately
Well that sure is odd Sean...as MM always said (when I've asked for
presentors and why the conferences are always east coast)that it was
becuase they were based on the east coast??
Did HQ change recentlyor am I confused with good old Allaire?
Cheers
Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP
Now I know MM is east coast...and I know resources are tight...but when a
$35 million a year company says jumpyou bloody well jump.
MM is west coast, and a $35 million (in revenue) / year company isn't
really all that large.
-Joe
--
For Tabs, Trees, and more, use the jComponents:
MM is west coast, and a $35 million (in revenue) / year company isn't
really all that large.
Yep...I stand corrected (although it is an excuse that MM has used with me
before).
The point is that they ignore a $35 million/year company that mainly works
for the government. If you can switch
Well that sure is odd Sean...as MM always said (when I've
asked for presentors and why the conferences are always east
coast)that it was becuase they were based on the east coast??
Did HQ change recentlyor am I confused with good old Allaire?
While Macromedia's central offices are
Ahhh...thanks Dave...I was pretty dang sure I wasn't losing it ;-)
The consultant I mentioned was part of a local company that had a division
sold to Allaire (and moved to Boston) just before MM took over (and he
stayed in Boston working on Flash Remoting for MM).
Cheers
Bryan Stevenson
MM is west coast, and a $35 million (in revenue) / year company isn't
really all that large.
I'd think that when you consider your business is too good to jump for a $35
million/year customer, you'd better start looking for another job. That's
just a bad outlook on business.
- Matt Small
I work for the govt and I get tremendous support from MM.
-Adam
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:46:20 -0800, Bryan Stevenson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
MM is west coast, and a $35 million (in revenue) / year company isn't
really all that large.
Yep...I stand corrected (although it is an excuse that
One, if the govt is outsourcing projects, it doesnt matter what
language or technology they are written in. An outsourced CF project
is outsourced because it is most likely a stovepipe app meant for use
by a single bureau. Being that it is a stovepipe app, the technology
used will do little to
what country you in Adam...and on what coast?
I get zero support from MMbut yes there are some federal govt (not
provinicial as I mentioned) departmnets that use CF (one is our client).
Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
phone:
Perhaps in your experience Adambut the fed govt. department I just
mentioned uses CF for most of it's apps...and we are there to do the high
end and overflow work their own developers can't handle ;-)
Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group
Hrmmm... I just assumed you meant the US govt. My Bad.
I work out of Washington, DC.
-Adam
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 10:16:49 -0800, Bryan Stevenson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perhaps in your experience Adambut the fed govt. department I just
mentioned uses CF for most of it's apps...and we
Matt,
Either I misunderstood what was said or you've misunderstood what I
meant...a company the size of mine or Macromedia should definitely
jump through some hoops for a customer that's worth $35 million per
year in revenue. However, a consulting firm that _brings in_ $35
million a year isn't a
Jeah, but outta that 35mil, how much will MM ever see?
-Adam
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 13:50:48 -0500, Joe Rinehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matt,
Either I misunderstood what was said or you've misunderstood what I
meant...a company the size of mine or Macromedia should definitely
jump through
Joe...dollar values aside...the point is they don't even try...and that is
truly sad :-(
but that's OK...I don't mind taking the business ;-)
Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
phone: 250.480.0642
fax: 250.480.1264
cell:
Joe...dollar values aside...the point is they don't even try...and that is
truly sad :-(
but that's OK...I don't mind taking the business ;-)
Hey, if it makes you money :).
I'm sure that if resources were unlimited, they'd personally take care
of every company possible, but they
I'm sure that if resources were unlimited, they'd personally take care
of every company possible, but they probably have to prioritize by
some criteria.
Yep...totally agree...but when a personal invite for a technology
presentation is given and they turn it down...well then perhaps the
]
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 2:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut
down for 2 days now.
I'm sure that if resources were unlimited, they'd personally take care
of every company possible, but they probably have to prioritize by
some
I feel bad that I'm entering this thread so late - but I usually do. My
apologies.
First off, I'm not MM blashing here - I've always found their products to be
quite good. However, since they deal with software - they can suffer the bugs,
etc. Since I'm a one person consultant like you, I
Hey Peter,
If you need help on getting MX up and running with Apache let me know...jeez
I have done it enough times!
N
-Original Message-
From: Peter Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 February 2005 13:00
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install
From: Peter Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mike, I had problems with getting CFMX7 installed on WinXPPro
with Apache 2.0. I downloaded the installer on the Monday
that it came out (like 1am). I must of had bad luck. It
rendered my computer, well - I had 10 hours of
troubleshooting
No, I doubt the it was because of other programs. I always shut down just
about everything - habit from the good old DOS days (except we didn't have
services_. I would have even done it in Safe Mode if I could have. Actually,
one of the problems was when CFMX7 installed itself - on restart -
It's not that I couldn't get it to play with Apache. I did get CF parse cfm
files and apache to serve them. That wasn't the problem. It was the
java.lang.OutOfMemory errors that were the problem. JRUN would eat up it's
entire memory allocation (512MB) within 5 minutes and this is on a dev
I have been in software development and games development for
nearly 26 years, and in that time I have always seen products
released before they should have been released it has never
changed. But the powers to be wanted this out quickly to
generate some cash flow into the company and
can't you reinstall the dev copy of MX6?
--
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Mike, have you verified that .cfm files can indeed be parsed by JRun? i.e.
in IIS is the .cfm extension mapped to the correct .dll/.exe
-Original Message-
From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 February 2005 13:05
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install -
Yes I could and unless I resolve this soon, that's what I'll have to
do, but I would rather install CF7.
If I go back to CFMX6.1 now, I will most likely never try out CF7. It
will never find it's way into my hosting company and I will never let
a client of mine have it either, because I wont
IIS -- Website -- Properties -- Home Directory -- Configuration
(Application Settings).
Are there Application Mappings for cfm, cfml, cfc, etc?
-Adam
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 00:04:38 +1100, Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is very disappointing for me - I had high expectations that the
I tried to map the extensions in IIS manually, but I couldn't find a
..exe file to map it to. I dont know what the name and location of the
file is that it's supposed to associate .cfm to, now that it's not a
windows application.
But why should I have to do that? Run two batch files to connect
Mike, I really don't mean to be rude, but I think your statements are
way off. Most likely this problem is between the monitor and the
chair. I'm running your same setup, in addition to 4 other setups
without problem.
-Adam
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 00:27:30 +1100, Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You want to map them to a jrun.dll. Not an .exe.
-Adam
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 00:34:43 +1100, Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I tried to map the extensions in IIS manually, but I couldn't find a
..exe file to map it to. I dont know what the name and location of the
file is that it's
Thanks Adam. Lets suppose I havent got a clue what I'm talking about.
(It's possible. My wife is convinced of that and reminds me
constantly)
How come I have now tried to install CF7 a dozen times and it's never
worked, and there's nothing anywhere that helps me find out what's
wrong? Where
From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks Adam. Lets suppose I havent got a clue what I'm talking about.
(It's possible. My wife is convinced of that and reminds me
constantly)
I'm not prepared ot accept that just because it installs ok for you,
that it's MY fault that it doesnt
Hi Mike,
I am using XP Pro SP2 with the multiserver config, but the config shown here
should be the same. See if this helps.
Jeff
Mike Kear wrote:
Yes I could and unless I resolve this soon, that's what I'll have to
do, but I would rather install CF7.
If I go back to CFMX6.1 now,
Hi Mike,
I am using XP Pro SP2 with the multiserver config, but the config
shown here should be the same. See if this helps.
Jeff
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 00:57:45 +1100, Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks Adam. Lets suppose I havent got a clue what I'm talking about.
(It's possible.
Is there a virtual mapping to the JRunScripts directory?
-Adam
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 00:04:38 +1100, Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is very disappointing for me - I had high expectations that the
Macromedia install people would have learned from the fiasco
surrounding the CFMX6.0
[A] there is no MM support in Australia. for the last 8 years at
least, any Australian support is restricted to is it plugged in?
except through resources such as this list and teh CFAUSSIE list.
[B] I only get to work on this currently at 10pm till 2am
[C] I'm far from alone. MM clearly have
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 09:17:42 -0500, Jeff Fleitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Mike,
I am using XP Pro SP2 with the multiserver config, but the config
shown here should be the same. See if this helps.
Jeff
Thanks Jeff .
shown where?
Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Virtual mapping? Another thing that I have to do manually? Is
there a list somewhere of all the things I have to do manually since
the install routine isnt doing it?
No, there's no virtual mapping in IIS to any jrun directory.
And when I attempt to manually map the .cfm and .cfml extensions
I attached an image. Guess it got clipped... I will send it off list.
Jeff
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 01:32:25 +1100, Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 09:17:42 -0500, Jeff Fleitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Mike,
I am using XP Pro SP2 with the multiserver config, but the
Well 99% of the time you do not have to do this manually. However
there are numerous reasons why CF wouldnt be able to perform this
automatically. Usually involving how you setup IIS and system
privelages. As a professional hosting company, it may we worth
learning the ins and outs of the servers
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 09:11:36 -0500, Michael T. Tangorre
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since you are definitely in the minority when it comes CFMX 7 installation
troubles, and days of Q/A on cf-talk has not gotten you further, I would
venture to guess that in all the emails back and forth with the
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 09:11:36 -0500, Michael T. Tangorre
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since you are definitely in the minority when it comes CFMX 7 installation
troubles, and days of Q/A on cf-talk has not gotten you further, I would
venture to guess that in all the emails back and forth with the
Mike,
I sympathize with your problem. The multiserver install is quite a bit more
complicated than the standalone install. The biggest issue always seems to be
getting the connector installed properly, which is where you seem to be stuck.
Can you at least get to the JRun Management Console
Thanks for your suggestions Adam.
I dont have any servers I administer, except my own dev servers. I
resell space on servers that are running perfectly well and are
adminstered by someone else. They are running on CFMX6.1. I am now
trying to learn about CF7 so I stay up to date, and help
I have C:\CFusionMX7\runtime\lib\wsconfig but no numbered folders at
all. In that swconfig folder is only the file jrunwin32.dll
IIRC, you stated you were installing the multiserver version. The
above does not indicate that.
Now, I understand ur frustration and all, but your servers do NOT
I understand the frustration too but I'm tired of the bitching like a
little girl. I agree with Sean, don't damn the program, its more than
likely a user error. I've installed the trial edition on 3 PCs, 2 are
running XP Pro and the other (work) is Win 2k Pro. No problems Mike,
not a one.. And
Thanks Doug. Actually I didnt say whether it was the multiserver
version or not. I installed the single server IIS version.
As for whether it works on XP or not, I'm not about to rebuild my
entire dev enviironment, JUST to try out a new program. That's an
awful lot of work and expense. I run a
Thanks for your contribution Sean, but i think it's very unfair.
First of all, I haven't bad-mouthed any part of Macromedia, except
perhaps being critical of the people who figured it was unnecessary to
give any help for people who didnt get an install going perfectly.
And as i have said many
From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
As for FREE installation support, if anyone can give me the
Australian phone number where I call to get installation
support between 9pm and 2am, I'd be most grateful.
First off, you need the support, so you find the time to get in touch with
MM
I'm not whining, Doug, and I'm not criticising the program. CF7 is
obviously working beautifully for lots of people. If it wasn't I
wouldnt have given it two minutes thought. It was the fact that so
many people said it was a piece of cake to install, that it installed
flawlessly and ran
From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sorry if you dont like it, but that's how it is. Now that
i've made a start on installing CF7, I am forced to continue
or throw CF7 out
entirely. As so many people have pointed out to me, lots of others
have CF7 working fine on a setup like
Thank you for the life advice Michael. I appreciate it.
I am not sure where the 'bitching and moaning' has come from. Not
from me. The only critical thing I've said is that I think Macromedia
ought to have allowed for the possibility that some people might not
have a perfect installation,
I'd be delighted to. If anyone is willing to try.Dave Watts did
once, and he was extremely generous with his time in helping me
resolve a problem.
Again it might well be that I am the problem. I've never said
otherwise. But i can't see where i went wrong and I need some help
from
IIS, wont install - business
almost shut down for 2 days now.
I'd be delighted to. If anyone is willing to try.Dave Watts did
once, and he was extremely generous with his time in helping
me resolve a problem.
Again it might well be that I am the problem. I've never
said otherwise
I've just sent an off-list reply to Michael, thanking him for his very
kind offer but I'm not going to be at the machine in question for
another 9 hours or so.
I do hope i'll be able to take him up on his offer then. Even if
he's not able to help me then, I'm extremely grateful for the offer.
under IIS, wont install - business almost shut
down for 2 days now.
I understand the frustration too but I'm tired of the bitching like a little
girl. I agree with Sean, don't damn the program, its more than likely a user
error. I've installed the trial edition on 3 PCs, 2 are running XP Pro
A collage of responses follow:
surrounding the CFMX6.0 install routines. No such luck.There is
no documentation anywhere telling us what to do if the installation
doesn't go perfectly.
ColdFusion MX 7: Common installation problems (watch the wrap)
Thanks for this Steven, I'm glad you sorted out all these links for
me. Some of them arent relevant, but some are.
For example, you say that the manual configuration procedure which
describes CFMX6.1 also works for CF7. How would I have known that?
Remember this is the first time I've come
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