On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:15 AM, george.e...@ssa.gov george.e...@ssa.gov <
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> http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Application-Development/Adobe-Delivers-Beta-of-ColdFusion-9-and-ColdFusion-Builder-IDE-361260/?kc=EWKNLNAV07152009STR5
>
> George
>
Eweek arrived in mailbox to
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Rick Faircloth wrote:
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> Sounds like a good way to go...
>
> Any other comments/warnings/gotcha's on this procedure?
Not really. It's what I've done for a bunch of other plugins/testing
cfe, etc., so *theoretically* that's about it.
Java is marvelous, as far as
$300? $500?) :o)
If this feature doesn't make it into the RTM of CFB, I'm going to have
to pay someone $300 to build in this feature into CFE for me.
-Original Message-
From: Ben Forta [mailto:b...@forta.com]
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 6:25 PM
To: cf-talk
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Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 4:09 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
Take it easy-- it's a beta. Log a bug and call it a day. The new Flex
bug tracker is pretty kick butt.
http://cfbugs.adobe.com/bugreport/flexbugui/cfbugtracker/main.html
~Brad
Origin
Take it easy-- it's a beta. Log a bug and call it a day. The new Flex
bug tracker is pretty kick butt.
http://cfbugs.adobe.com/bugreport/flexbugui/cfbugtracker/main.html
~Brad
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Subject: RE: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
From: "Rick Faircloth"
pening a document?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Brady [mailto:dsbr...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:20 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
>
>
> I don't know if there's a way to add shortcuts specific to the CF
> Builde
in eWEEK
Tell me I'm just having a nightmare...
Does CFB not maintain folded code state when opening a document?
-Original Message-
From: Scott Brady [mailto:dsbr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:20 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
I don'
Tell me I'm just having a nightmare...
Does CFB not maintain folded code state when opening a document?
-Original Message-
From: Scott Brady [mailto:dsbr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:20 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
I don't know if the
I don't know if there's a way to add shortcuts specific to the CF
Builder (under "ColdFusion --> Editor Profiles --> Editor --> Keys in
the preferences, I don't see a way to add. Only edit.). You might be
able to try it in the Eclipse-specific shortcuts (General --> Keys)
[that's where I had to g
It was an issue with the Yoxos install, which has it's own custom update
engine, that didn't like me installing the CFB plugin. Gave me an error
every time I tried to pull up Eclipse, and immediately shut down. I've
done a straight vanilla Gallileo install from the Eclipse site now, and
have n
u've never used Eclipse, Adobe wants you to
> >>> be able to easily install CFB.
> >>>
> >> That's a step in the right direction. The world of Eclipse
> >> is confusing at first. It's almost like "build-your-own-software land"
ypical software installations. It's still frustrating
>> trying to track down various plug-ins, etc, sometimes.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:48 PM
>> To: cf-talk
>> Subject
d"
> compared to typical software installations. It's still frustrating
> trying to track down various plug-ins, etc, sometimes.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:48 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Su
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Rick Faircloth wrote:
>
> Sounds like a good way to go...
>
> Any other comments/warnings/gotcha's on this procedure?
>
>
Different question... Anyone know how to edit keyboard shortcuts? I can pull
up keyassist but can't remember how to edit them.
seems silly
Sounds like a good way to go...
Any other comments/warnings/gotcha's on this procedure?
-Original Message-
From: denstar [mailto:valliants...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 5:19 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
Ja know...
If you have a current Ec
t's still frustrating
trying to track down various plug-ins, etc, sometimes.
-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:48 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
> So, choosing the install type of "Standard Col
Ja know...
If you have a current Eclipse install that you like which contains
CFE, and want to try CFB in the same setting, theoretically, you
could:
1) Copy your current Eclipse install folder to something like eclipse-cfb
2) Either copy your workspace folder or create a new one
3) Fire up the
> So, choosing the install type of "Standard ColdFusion Builder Installation"
> ends up with Eclipse installed? Either approach I take I end up with the
> same thing? Eclipse first, then CFB...or CFB first and end up Eclipse
> anyway.
Yes. You can either install CFB into your existing Eclipse t
hursday, July 16, 2009 11:20 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
>> 3. Run CFE and CFB in separate Eclipse installs.
>
> A good possibility.
>
> How about:
>
> 4. Install CFB as stand-alone.
That would give you a separate Eclipse install.
> Is instal
Two Eclipse installs with CFB as a plug-in?
-Original Message-
From: Wil Genovese [mailto:jugg...@visi.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:20 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
I'm running two installs. One CF Builder and one CFEclipse.
Wil Genovese
One man
d possibility.
>
> How about:
>
> 4. Install CFB as stand-alone.
>
> Is installation of CFB as an Eclipse plug-in preferable to stand-alone
> for some reason?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 1
>> 3. Run CFE and CFB in separate Eclipse installs.
>
> A good possibility.
>
> How about:
>
> 4. Install CFB as stand-alone.
That would give you a separate Eclipse install.
> Is installation of CFB as an Eclipse plug-in preferable to stand-alone
> for some reason?
No. But if you already have E
ity.
How about:
4. Install CFB as stand-alone.
Is installation of CFB as an Eclipse plug-in preferable to stand-alone
for some reason?
-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 10:50 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
> Under "Getting Installed" you advise installing CFB as a plug-in
> if one already has an Eclipse installation. But, what will happen
> with my CFE plug-in? They won't work in the same installation. That's
> what Adobe's warning said when I tried two days ago to install it in my
> existing Ecl
existing Eclipse setup with CFE...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Wil Genovese [mailto:jugg...@visi.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:53 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
>
>
> yes, read my blog - MOST people are not reading the CF Bui
days ago to install it in my
existing Eclipse setup with CFE...
-Original Message-
From: Wil Genovese [mailto:jugg...@visi.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:53 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
yes, read my blog - MOST people are not reading the CF Builder
documenta
visi.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:53 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
yes, read my blog - MOST people are not reading the CF Builder
documentation and thus missing one very important step when adding
third-party plugins to the stand alone version.
http://www.trunkful.com/i
That is weird since I just installed some additional Mylin
components. Mylin Task List, Mylin Bridge: Eclipse IDE, and Mylin
Bridge Team Support with no issues on Win XP Pro. I also installed
Mylin and Mylin Extras on my Mac Book Pro with no issues. Both
computers are using the public b
Yeah, I tried adding the ganymede update site and it errored on that too.
I'll probably start over and also try CF Builder as a plugin.
Greg Luce
Luce Consulting Services, Inc.
www.luceconsulting.net
(863) 273-0289
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Wil Genovese wrote:
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> Have you read the Co
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Dave Watts wrote:
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>> It could be that there are unavoidable, inherent conflicts between the
>> two plug-ins...or it could be that the 500-lb Adobe gorilla is purposefully
>> creating unnecessary incompatibilities in order to muscle out the
>> competition...
>
> G
nt that the statement was ready to be delivered
>>> upon even finding the installation of CFEclipse.
>>>
>>> Meaning that Adobe must have set up the installation process to look
>>> for a CFE installation and warn that the two could not be used
>>> toge
Seems like the best route extensibility would be Eclipse followed by the
plug-ins, rather
than CFB with plug-ins...
-Original Message-
From: Greg Luce [mailto:luce...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:01 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
Adam or anyone els
be used together.
> >
> > i.echoose sides...we won't or can't play together on the same
> > playground.
> >
> > How is my assessment inaccurate?
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:adrocknapho...@gmail.
> -Original Message-----
> From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:adrocknapho...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 10:38 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
>
>
> Prepared statement? News to me. Can you point me to it?
> -Adam Lehman
> ColdFusion
day, July 16, 2009 10:37 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
1. Check out my blog post on ColdFusion Builder memory settings. Flash
Builder defaults to use much more memory than CF Builder, which is why you
might want to install FB first. We will be updating the default settings for
e won't or can't play together on the same
playground.
How is my assessment inaccurate?
-Original Message-
From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:adrocknapho...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 10:38 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
Prepared statement? News to me.
ready to pounce on CFEclipse when its
> installation was detected.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:11 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
>
>
> > It could be that t
1. Check out my blog post on ColdFusion Builder memory settings. Flash
Builder defaults to use much more memory than CF Builder, which is why you
might want to install FB first. We will be updating the default settings for
the next release of ColdFusion Builder, but in the meantime:
http://www.adr
When you're writing your applications, do you not try to anticipate
certain things users will try that you know may cause problems and
then provide them appropriate messages? I think Adobe predicted that
a lot of users would try to have CFEclipse and CF Builder on the same
Eclipse installation an
o: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
> It could be that there are unavoidable, inherent conflicts between the
> two plug-ins...or it could be that the 500-lb Adobe gorilla is
purposefully
> creating unnecessary incompatibilities in order to muscle out the
> competition...
Given the
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Dave Watts wrote:
>
> Given the likelihood of conflict between two Eclipse plugins that do
> the same thing, I don't think we need to ascribe malice to Adobe.
>
Yeah well, there color pallet sucks in standalone! All over the place.
Bright Blue for tags Da
> It could be that there are unavoidable, inherent conflicts between the
> two plug-ins...or it could be that the 500-lb Adobe gorilla is purposefully
> creating unnecessary incompatibilities in order to muscle out the
> competition...
Given the likelihood of conflict between two Eclipse plugins
...@figleaf.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:35 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
> > This shouldn't really be too surprising, as ColdFusion Builder
> > is intended to be used instead of CFEclipse.
>
> That statement carries a lot of implications. Where did you h
> > This shouldn't really be too surprising, as ColdFusion Builder
> > is intended to be used instead of CFEclipse.
>
> That statement carries a lot of implications. Where did you hear this and,
> how and where can I confirm this statement?
I didn't hear it from anywhere. It's a simple observatio
>>>This shouldn't really be too surprising, as ColdFusion Builder
is intended to be used instead of CFEclipse.
That statement carries a lot of implications. Where did you hear this and,
how and where can I confirm this statement?
Kind Regards,
Emmit
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Dave Watts
gt;>> installed
>>> as a plug-in to Eclipse, if CFBuilder doesn't do SVN, itself.
>>>
>>> So is anyone successfully using CFEclipse and CFBuilder in the same
>>> Eclipse
>>> install?
>>>
>>> It's really annoying that they
t both be installed together.
> > What is that the case?
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: Cutter (ColdFusion) [mailto:cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:56 AM
> > To: cf-talk
> > Subject: Re: CF9 and
> you multi-task you activate the task and the 18 files you need open
open up
That does sound good...
-Original Message-
From: Greg Luce [mailto:luce...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:46 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
But you should REALLY try My
> From: Cutter (ColdFusion) [mailto:cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:56 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
>
>
> Personal experience has been that installing as a plugin, rather
> than as
> a standalone, has allowed me g
ge-
>> From: Greg Luce [mailto:luce...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:17 PM
>> To: cf-talk
>> Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
>>
>>
>> I wasn't able to install Mylyn into the standalone. Keeps erroring
>> saying
>> &q
Subclipse seems fine.
Greg
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Rick Faircloth wrote:
>
> I don't use Mylyn, but any problem with Subclipse?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Greg Luce [mailto:luce...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:17 PM
> To: cf-t
>From what I have read about Flex Builder is that it is a very bare bones
version of Eclipse, so I would imagine that the same is true for CF builder.
That may give rise to dependency issues with such a minimal install. I
suspect that may be an issue. Or maybe not. I would build your Eclipse
distr
I don't use Mylyn, but any problem with Subclipse?
-Original Message-
From: Greg Luce [mailto:luce...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:17 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
I wasn't able to install Mylyn into the standalone. Keeps erroring saying
I wasn't able to install Mylyn into the standalone. Keeps erroring saying
"'Install' has encountered a problem. An error occurred during
provisioning." This is the 32bit standalone on Vista, HP Quadcore, 4G RAM.
Anyone have luck installing Mylyn? That and Subclipse are always my first
installs to
You can install plugins into the standalone builder. The standalone
builder is, essentially, just its own Eclipse installation, which
means you can install other plugins (such as subclipse) into it.
One somewhat annoying thing is that both cfeclipse and CF Builder use
a .project file, so you can'
; install?
>
> It's really annoying that they can't both be installed together.
> What is that the case?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Cutter (ColdFusion) [mailto:cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:56 AM
> To: cf-t
> It's really annoying that they can't both be installed together.
> What is that the case?
Probably because they do the same thing, with the same sort of files,
etc. You can install as many copies of Eclipse as you need, if you
want to use CFEclipse for some things and ColdFusion Builder for
oth
stalled together.
What is that the case?
-Original Message-
From: Cutter (ColdFusion) [mailto:cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:56 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
Personal experience has been that installing as a plugin, rather than as
a s
Personal experience has been that installing as a plugin, rather than as
a standalone, has allowed me greater flexibility when I wanted to flesh
out my environment by including subclipse, etc.
Steve "Cutter" Blades
Adobe Certified Professional
Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
Co-A
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Rick Faircloth
wrote:
>
> So, as far as you know, the stand-alone works exactly like the Eclipse
> plugin?
>
Not exactly sure. Seems to be, but I was never a big eclipse user. Going to
give this a shot though...
~~~
So, as far as you know, the stand-alone works exactly like the Eclipse
plugin?
-Original Message-
From: Casey Dougall [mailto:ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:34 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Rick
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Rick Faircloth
wrote:
>
> thanks for the link, George...
>
> Speaking of Bolt...when I tried to install it into my existing Eclipse
> setup,
> I get a message that I couldn't install it (or that it may not work
> properly)
> with CFEclipse installed.
>
> Do I nee
thanks for the link, George...
Speaking of Bolt...when I tried to install it into my existing Eclipse
setup,
I get a message that I couldn't install it (or that it may not work
properly)
with CFEclipse installed.
Do I need to setup another installation of Eclipse in order to test Bolt?
or rather
Wow Darryl really mailed it on that one. Let's just take a bunch of quotes
and string them together. Good job witting the article for him Adam.
Adam
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:15 AM, george.e...@ssa.gov george.e...@ssa.gov <
george.e...@ssa.gov> wrote:
>
>
> http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Applicatio
The real question is, will it make it to print!
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