Re: DS3 slow connection problem. [7:65491]

2003-03-21 Thread Nate
ubject: RE: DS3 slow connection problem. [7:65491] > Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > > > > > > > > I logged into the routers and did some ping tests, pinging the > > > routers own serial interface I still get the 1% packet loss. > > > > It may surprise you

Re: DS3 slow connection problem. [7:65491]

2003-03-18 Thread alaerte Vidali
I was wondering if an extended ping with a high zero density (0x) could reveal something (maybe a line encoding issue. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=65688&t=65491 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: h

Re: DS3 slow connection problem. [7:65491]

2003-03-17 Thread s vermill
Darrell Newcomb wrote: > > > As others are saying, get the carrier involved. Do some > loopbacks with > their > > help. (Do loopbacks still make sense with DS3? I've only > worked with DS1). > > Regardless, I think you've done the requisite testing and > swapping on your > > side. Time to hassle t

Re: DS3 slow connection problem. [7:65491]

2003-03-17 Thread Darrell Newcomb
> As others are saying, get the carrier involved. Do some loopbacks with their > help. (Do loopbacks still make sense with DS3? I've only worked with DS1). > Regardless, I think you've done the requisite testing and swapping on your > side. Time to hassle the carrier. > I haven't been reading group

Re: DS3 slow connection problem. [7:65491]

2003-03-17 Thread Darrell Newcomb
> As others are saying, get the carrier involved. Do some loopbacks with their > help. (Do loopbacks still make sense with DS3? I've only worked with DS1). > Regardless, I think you've done the requisite testing and swapping on your > side. Time to hassle the carrier. > I haven't been reading group

RE: DS3 slow connection problem. [7:65491]

2003-03-17 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > > > > > I logged into the routers and did some ping tests, pinging the > > routers own serial interface I still get the 1% packet loss. > > It may surprise you to learn that when you ping from a router's > serial interface to the router's own serial interface, the

RE: DS3 slow connection problem. [7:65491]

2003-03-17 Thread Stephen Bailey
Thanks, We will speak to the Carrier today and find out what their configuration is. We have 3 other DS3 45mbps circuits on the Network connecting through another Carrier and we are NOT seeing the same problems. I'll keep you updated. Thanks Stephen s vermill wrote: > > Stephen, > > Thanks

RE: DS3 slow connection problem. [7:65491]

2003-03-17 Thread s vermill
Stephen, Thanks for the update. It sounds as if this circiut is not back-to-back. Since there is a carrier involved, you might want to think about how the service might be provisioned. For example, the carrier may have all the transport equipment set up to accept a "channelized" DS3 and you mig

RE: DS3 slow connection problem. [7:65491]

2003-03-17 Thread s vermill
Stephen, Also, what has the carrier told you about this circuit? Most "carrier-class" transport equipment can report the types of errors being incurred and where they first appear in the network. For instance, coding violations, framing errors/violations, simple FCS failure, etc. Also, did your

RE: DS3 slow connection problem. [7:65491]

2003-03-17 Thread Stephen Bailey
Hello all, I am a collegue of Mark's who has been working on this fault over the weekend with Mark. We have done some further tests today and we are still experiencing errors on the line, here are some of the results we have seen: 1.) Each time we have changed the clocking on the line, we have b

RE: DS3 slow connection problem. [7:65491]

2003-03-16 Thread s vermill
Mark, Saying that THE problem is one thing or another is always dangerous (and, frankly, a little unprofessional). I should have said that A problem is that you didn't have a clock source on the line. You need at least one. Two doesn't hurt either (both can be internal). There may well be othe

RE: DS3 slow connection problem. [7:65491]

2003-03-16 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Mark Walmsley wrote: > > Hi Again Everyone, > > Just to let you all know, this morning I changed the 7200 > router serial interface clock to int and left the 7500 clock > set to line, this actually made the connection worse, I got 5% > packet loss as opposed to 1% packet loss when both router > i

Re: DS3 slow connection problem. [7:65491]

2003-03-16 Thread Mark Walmsley
Hi Jim, Here's the output you wanted. I was thinking about the cablelength so I might give it a try in the morning becaause it looks to me like more than 10 feet but not alot more perhaps 15-20, Also, the wiring was previously working fine in the same place but conected to a converter then into a

Re: DS3 slow connection problem. [7:65491]

2003-03-16 Thread Jim Devane
ation could be a problem as well. Of course, everything I have said could absolutely be obsoleted by the damn PA being bad, but it doesn't sound like it is bad. Thanks, Jim - Original Message - From: "Mark Walmsley" To: Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 5:16 AM Subject: RE:

RE: DS3 slow connection problem. [7:65491]

2003-03-16 Thread Mark Walmsley
Hi Again Everyone, Just to let you all know, this morning I changed the 7200 router serial interface clock to int and left the 7500 clock set to line, this actually made the connection worse, I got 5% packet loss as opposed to 1% packet loss when both router interfaces were set to line, I changed

RE: DS3 slow connection problem. [7:65491]

2003-03-15 Thread Mark Walmsley
Brilliant! Thanks everyone. I'm going to work on it in the morning and i'll let you know how I get on. Mark. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=65523&t=65491 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.gro

RE: DS3 slow connection problem. [7:65491]

2003-03-15 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
s vermill wrote: > > Mark, > > Your problem is that both routers are set to recover timing > from the line. Telcos don't generally provide timing for DS3s, > so you'll need to set one router for internal clock. Wow. I'm impressed that you pinpointed the problem, unlike those of us who copied an

Re: DS3 slow connection problem. [7:65491]

2003-03-15 Thread Jim Devane
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 8:54 AM Subject: RE: DS3 slow connection problem. [7:65491] > That' right... > But for me any reliability value less than 255/255 is a line problem.. > check the cables and connectors.. Did you change them?... > mustafa > > -Original M

RE: DS3 slow connection problem. [7:65491]

2003-03-15 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
ww.priscilla.com > check the cables and connectors.. Did you change them?... > mustafa > > -Original Message- > From: Spio Wagus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 5:18 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: DS3 slow connection problem.

RE: DS3 slow connection problem. [7:65491]

2003-03-15 Thread Arnaud V.
m: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Mark Walmsley > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 6:21 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: DS3 slow connection problem. [7:65491] > > > Hi All, > > I need some help to troubleshoot a problem, I have > a 7

RE: DS3 slow connection problem. [7:65491]

2003-03-15 Thread s vermill
Mark, Your problem is that both routers are set to recover timing from the line. Telcos don't generally provide timing for DS3s, so you'll need to set one router for internal clock. A lot of folks that work with T1s know that telcos can and do provide timing for those lower-rate circuits. How t

RE: DS3 slow connection problem. [7:65491]

2003-03-15 Thread Mark Walmsley
Thanks Spio, I've cleared the counters for "show int" and noticed that the input errors are showing up on the 7200 and not on the 7500 which might make things a bit clearer, the counters hadn't been cleared since installation so the 7500 input errors might have been from when it was first brought

RE: DS3 slow connection problem. [7:65491]

2003-03-15 Thread Mustafa Furat
t: RE: DS3 slow connection problem. [7:65491] clear the counters on both routers and find out the rate of new error accumulation. check the interface after say 5 mins and see if you get new more errors and we can take it from there. check the controllers for errors too. -Original Message-

RE: DS3 slow connection problem. [7:65491]

2003-03-15 Thread Spio Wagus
PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Walmsley Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 6:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DS3 slow connection problem. [7:65491] Hi All, I need some help to troubleshoot a problem, I have a 7500 router with a ds3(45Mbps) connected to a 7200 ds3 (45Mbps). The line appears to be very slow

DS3 slow connection problem. [7:65491]

2003-03-15 Thread Mark Walmsley
Hi All, I need some help to troubleshoot a problem, I have a 7500 router with a ds3(45Mbps) connected to a 7200 ds3 (45Mbps). The line appears to be very slow and is showing input errors on the 7200 and 7500 serial interfaces. Here's some info below from the serial interfaces on both the 7200 and