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Cisco Press (www.ciscopress.com) has their Security book due out in December
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7w3d: S8_T200_EXPIRY VA = 6, VS = 6 RC = 0
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I recently read the cisco course book (CID 2.0) and found that most of
the topics discussed were a review of mosttly routing/desktop
protocols. I have just started the Sybex CID book and it follows the
same. I was wondering if both of these materials cover all the
"stuff" that I would need to k
Config net TFTP_IP:FILENAME ?
Thanks!
TJ
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Hello group,
What command can I use to copy a configuraton
PIX-FW1# copy ?
usage: copy tftp[:[[//location][/pathname]]] flash
For instance:
copy tftp://192.168.2.2/configs/pix.cfg flash
Thus spake BASSOLE Rock, on Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 09:06:59AM -0500:
> Hello group,
>
>
> What command can I use to copy a configuraton form a tftp server to a PIX
> F
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>
> PIX-FW1# copy ?
> usage: copy tftp[:[[//location][/pathname]]] flash
>
> For instance:
>
> copy tftp://192.168.2.2/configs/pix.cfg flash
>
>
&g
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AND, am I to understand correctly, as the manual is quite vague, that an
upgrade of the primary failover unit also updates the secondary? Or, must
the hapless administrator do each individually?
Best, G.
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information [7:35294]
I believe it sync's them auto-magically, or perhaps on a timed basis.
Regardless ... I always do a wr standby ... just to be sure.
Thanks!
TJ
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I believe it sync's them auto-magically, or perhaps on a timed basis.
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T
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Hi,
Regarding the command "default-information originate", I understand that it
will cause the router to advertise the default route into OSPF / IS-IS
domain. Without this, by default, OSPF / IS-IS will not advertise the
default route to the other routers.
As for the [always] keywo
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pment in my RACK already:
2501
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2504
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I just need to get a Serial Patch Panel. Having difficulty.
Any information as to where / how much /
my hint to you is study...
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Does anyone have any information and hints about the CCIE R/S Exam? I will
take
Go to Cisco's web site and review/print out the R/S blueprint. Good guideline for the
test
Dick Beamish
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>
> Does anyone have any information and hints about the CCIE R/S Exam? I will take it
>this month
Hi everyone,
I am preparing for my CCNA and in the process of building a home lab. i
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Hi,
I am currently trying to setup a network in my lab to provide MPLS features.
I am given 4 routers, 2 Cisco 7200 series and 2 Cisco 3600 series.
As I am an alien in this field. I have a few questions.
1) Does a router come with IOS by default?
2) What is the command to check the IOS version
just an FYI, since I may have to recertify this year and so looked it up
the following link will get you to a page on CCO that tells you what exam
you need for recertification. there is also a link to download some practice
tests.
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/ex
onic form.
Dave
Neil Borne wrote:
>
> Does anyone know where I get can get some "straight forward" LANE
> information?
>
> Thanks,
>
> P. Neil Borne, CCDA,CCNP,C-voice and CWNA
> Systems Integrator III
>
>
got several years ago from a Cisco engineer that is very good, clear
> and consice in a way you won't find on CCO but I don't have it in
> electronic form.
>
> Dave
>
> Neil Borne wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone know where I get can get some "straight forwa
I'd like a copy of that doc, if you would be so kind... will be some
very interesting reading.
Mark
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I have digitized th
Cisco LAN Switching by Clark and Hamilton has an interesting chapter on
LANE.
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> Does
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I'd like
Actually, I though the LANE section of Caslow's book was pretty good.
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Augment the Sybex book with Cisco Web information on
the StrataCom platforms - capabilities, protocols,
etc. It might be worth five-percent of your interests.
Otherwise, assuming that you've taken the CCNP and DCN
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retty good review. good
luck!!!
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> I recently read the cisco course book (CID 2.0) and found that most of
> the to
Hi,
My question is based on the subject of incorrect or malformed AS path
information being sent to peers, i.e. not being torn down as per the RFC on
BGP. From my understanding an IOS bug patch was released to cure, however I
have been envisaging this same bug within the current IOS 12.0 train
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>
> Regarding the command "default-information originate", I understand that
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> will cause the router to advertise the default route into OSPF / IS-IS
> domain. Without this, by default, OSPF
Thanks guys!!!
so, if the ASBR is default-free (hasn't got a default), does it mean that
one should only use "default-information originate" without the [always]
keyword, because the ASBR doesn't have a local default to meet the [always]
condition?
Thanks again.
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Does any know what kind of information will be got via DHCP. (using
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I know, it should contain ip address, wins server address, classfull
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What else ??
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ent in my RACK already:
>
> 2501
> 2503
> 2504
> 2511
> 2516
> 2521 - 4 Serials
> 2621
> 3620
> 4500 - 4 Serials
> CAT 2924 XL-EN
> CAT 5505 w/Sup 3 NFFC II, 24 Port 10/100 EtherChannel/ISL Capable Blade
> ISDN Simulator
>
> I just need to get a Serial Patc
Hello All,
I'm looking to compile and collect a lists of links of Virtual labs such as
Virtual Rack and CCIEbootcamp.
Primarily interested in virtual labs that have ATM and Voice included in
their Setup.
I currently am aware of:
www.fatkid.com
www.ccbootcamp.com
www.mentorlabs.com
www.virtual
Does anyone know of a program that will capture IP Accounting information
for billing purposes?
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>From CCO:
Bug Id : CSCdt67547
Headline Problem on calling Delta-Airlines via PRI lines
Product as5300 Model
Component h323-isup Duplicate of
Severity 3 Status C
Version Found12.2(5) Fixed-in Version
Release Notes
The following command on AS5300 fixed the issue:
www.packetattack.com
The sample labs are free.. I have links for books, testing, downloads etc.
Drop a line with any comments you might have, suggestions and yes, dislikes :)
When I started with Cisco routers and the certs, my book I constantly
reached for was "Cisco Routers for IP Routing" by
1) yes
2) show version
3) hit www.cisco.com and search, read, search, read.
4) yes
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Please sent me the info. like,
CCIE R&S Written-
1.max. no of questions
2.Passing percentage
3.max.mark
4.Time
4.Question types.
5.difficulty level
6.Recommended materials
7.Other advices relating to Written exam.
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Just got this on the TAC newsletter. Requires a CCO login.
The Cisco IP Telephony Readiness Assessment can be found at:
http://www.cisco.com/tac/iptelready
(available to registered users)
( not bad - e-mail function was broken when I tried it the other day )
The Cisco IP Telephony Solution Guid
Does anyone have a good network information template? I'm trying to put
something together to keep track of all our WAN routers and I wondering if
someone out there has a good Access, Excel, etc. Database template that they
use to keep track of all this information (IP addresses, seri
Hi list,
any information about Nortels Shasta 5000?
THX
Mit freundlichen Gr|_en
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Hi group,
Is there anyone who already attend the CID 3.0 exam, to reach the CCDP?
Please share to me your knowledge/experience regarding that exam. I want
to
take the test next month.
THX,
Siggi
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Default gateway and DNS server addresses are two more that come to mind.
DHCP can pass along a lot of information, depending upon whether or not your
DHCP server and your workstation protocol stack support it.
RFC 2131 is, I believe, current
ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2131.txt
Chuck
Try www.soultionlabs.com as well. They seem to be the least expensive of
them all
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R1R2.com is one many people use, the web site also has a list of links
to other labs
tayta
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>
> I'm looking to compile and collect a lists of links of Virtual labs such as
> Virtual Rack and CCIEbootcamp.
>
> Primarily interested in virtual labs that have ATM a
> I'm looking to compile and collect a lists of links of
> Virtual labs such as Virtual Rack and CCIEbootcamp.
Try http://www.hojmark.org/networking/general.html#stu
(No, I haven't used any of them).
HTH,
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ple script
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> Does anyone know of a program that will capture IP Accounting information
> for billing purposes?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul Borghese
>
>
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> Hmmm I wonder if IP accounting info is available through a MIB? I'll
Yes, it is. Here is what you need:
1) Read actCheckPoint.0
2) Then, set actCheckPoint to the same value that you have read.
Now, db is checkpointed.
3) Read (in loop) LipCkAccountEntry, which
Title: RE: Capturing IP Accounting information for billing.
I would really like to see code for this function.
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If you want to use perl, there is an mrtg contribution called "whodo" by Tony
Farr which does what Sacha described below. I can extract and send you the
relevant code, if it would be any use. A lot cheaper than Cisco Works &
probably a bit simpler than implementing Netflow, but you would have
Hello,
I have 2 L-1 routers connected to a L1-L2 router via frame-relay.
Referring to Doyle's Vol. I, there are 2 ways to generate a default route in
the L-1 routers pointing to the L1-L2 router:
1. #default-information originate - on the L1-L2 router
#ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 null0 -
I have 2 cisco 2501 routers and just purchased another one. The first
routers came with a serial cable, (DB-60, i think) I need to order another
2-3 ft serial cable to connect my new router to the first. Does anyone have
any idea where a good place to purchase this is. I've found a couple plac
Hi,
recently failed the CID exam. I need some information on Secondary
addressing, design considerations, overview, uses and so on.. Can anyone
assist?
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Is there anyone out there using a Teltone Demonstrator that could give me
some assistance offline? I can't seem to get my ISDN to work.
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Wouldn't default-information originate always causes a
routing loop if a default route is not present?
thanks for your input
suaveguru
--- John Neiberger
wrote:
> If you use default-information originate, that
> router will only
> propagate a default route to its neighbors
then when do we turn on always ? Is there an
application for this?
thanks for your input
suaveguru
--- Bill Carter wrote:
> default-information originate always , This will
> always advertise a default
> route.
>
> default-information originate, This will advertise a
>
allowed vlan 1,2,4,5,10,12-14,1002-1005
switchport mode trunk
no ip address
Show All Trunks and Information:
cat2-3550#show interface trunk
Set Switch to be Root of Vlan 66 using Root Command:
Cat1-3550(config)#spanning-tree vlan 101 root primary
Set Switch to be Root of Vlan 66 Without using
I would like to know if anyone knows where I can find documentation
regarding criteria for OSPF to originate default using the
default-information originate command? Our Cisco SE provided me with the
following information, and he is trying to locate information to support the
second condition of
Hi all,
I have been wondering whether someone can help me understand, how to control
which default-gateway will the OSPF mechanism will advertise first, in a
scenario which I have four.
Thank you in advance for any help,
Gil
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