Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485]

2001-10-04 Thread nrf
to fight him on his own terms. - Original Message - From: Baker, Jason To: nrf ; Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 9:47 PM Subject: RE: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485] you are quoting ratios again and you have not gone completely against juniper. Take example below. how

Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485]

2001-10-04 Thread nrf
Whoops, my apologies. In my analysis, I had stated that Cisco's IPO was in 1986. Actually that is not true, and Cisco was actually founded in 1986, and its IPO was in 1990. I had confused it with Microsoft's IPO in 1986. Anyway, I believe it makes my analysis even more compelling. Let me

Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485]

2001-10-02 Thread John Kaberna
As of last week there are 279,000 MCSE's worldwide. I don't know what the CCNP numbers which is probably the comparable certification to the MCSE. Everything else you said I completely agree with. John Kaberna CCIE #7146 NETCG Inc. Cisco Premier Partner www.netcginc.com (415) 750-3800

Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485]

2001-10-02 Thread Donald B Johnson jr
: ; To: ; ; Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 8:45 PM Subject: Fwd: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485] On a whim I took the CCIE written this past Saturday. Didn't pass but I do believe the exam is far to easy. YES, to easy!! I came up a couple answers short but really put no effort into preparing

Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485]

2001-10-02 Thread nrf
001 8:45 PM Subject: Fwd: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485] On a whim I took the CCIE written this past Saturday. Didn't pass but I do believe the exam is far to easy. YES, to easy!! I came up a couple answers short but really put no effort into preparing for the exam!! When I

RE: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485]

2001-10-02 Thread Baker, Jason
CCN/DP - current CCIE 6/8/02 - first attempt Don - Original Message - From: ; To: ; ; Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 8:45 PM Subject: Fwd: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485] On a whim I took the CCIE written this past Saturday. Didn't pass but I do

Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485]

2001-10-02 Thread nrf
ey bring to the company. So saying the juniper cert will get you 225k is WRONG. -Original Message- From: nrf [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2001 7:26 am To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485] By the same token, you c

Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485]

2001-10-02 Thread John Kaberna
Subject: Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485] By the same token, you could say that the Juniper JNCIE is completely worthless compared to the MCSE, cuz like you said there are a hell of a lot more Windows boxes to babysit than Juniper routers. Yet, the average JNCIE takes in w

RE: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485]

2001-10-02 Thread Mossburg, Geoff (CEI-Atlanta)
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485] About Juniper losing market share. Well, the same could be said for Microsoft or Cisco or anybody else. Sure Juniper might disappear. On the other hand, Juniper might take over the core routing world, and become dominant in edge

Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485]

2001-10-02 Thread nrf
ROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485] About Juniper losing market share. Well, the same could be said for Microsoft or Cisco or anybody else. Sure Juniper might disappear. On the other hand, Juniper might take over the core routing world, and become dominant in edge

Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485]

2001-10-02 Thread nrf
ber 2001 7:26 am To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485] By the same token, you could say that the Juniper JNCIE is completely worthless compared to the MCSE, cuz like you said there are a hell of a lot more Windows boxes to babysit than Junip

Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485]

2001-10-02 Thread John Kaberna
company. So saying the juniper cert will get you 225k is WRONG. -Original Message- From: nrf [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2001 7:26 am To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485] By the s

RE: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485]

2001-10-02 Thread Mossburg, Geoff (CEI-Atlanta)
: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485] Hey, by that same token, nobody should ever take a chance at anything new, and should always stick to their old skills. Nobody should ever take a shot on something new. For example, I remember back when Microsoft launched the first Windows NT, I suppose you

Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485]

2001-10-02 Thread nrf
cert will get you 225k is WRONG. -Original Message- From: nrf [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2001 7:26 am To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485] By the same token, you could say that

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2001-10-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On a whim I took the CCIE written this past Saturday. Didn't pass but I do believe the exam is far to easy. YES, to easy!! I came up a couple answers short but really put no effort into preparing for the exam!! When I lost my job last year due to downsizing I weighed my options; MCSE or

Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485]

2001-10-01 Thread nrf
Comments inline: wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... When I lost my job last year due to downsizing I weighed my options; MCSE or CCIE...finished CCNP on April 30th so I guess that tells you my choice... HOWEVER, after getting the CCNP I began doing some job