Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

2003-09-09 Thread Steven Aiello
I just started my routing class for my CCNP. We are covering CIDR. The book is VEERY vague on how the bit patterns break down and are used. This was a problem posed in one of my CCNP labs I have network number 192.168.24.0 / 22 from this I need networks with 400 hosts 200 hosts 50 hos

Re: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

2003-09-09 Thread Marko Milivojevic
> I have network number > > 192.168.24.0 / 22 > > from this I need > networks with > > 400 hosts > 200 hosts > 50 hosts > 50 hosts > 2 hosts (for serial int - no ip un-numbered allowed ) > 2 hosts > 2 hosts 192.168.24.0/23 - 512 (400 hosts fit nicely) 192.168.26.0/24 - 256 (200 hosts f

RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

2003-09-09 Thread Dom
Aiello Sent: 09 September 2003 13:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050] I just started my routing class for my CCNP. We are covering CIDR. The book is VEERY vague on how the bit patterns break down and are used. This was a problem posed in one of my

Re: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

2003-09-09 Thread annlee
I get the same results as Marko, but this may lay it out so you (and others) can see the development: IP address = 32 bits Network portion = 22 bits Host portion = 10 bits Total addresses for host portion = 2^10 = 1024 Start with 192.168.24.0/22 Focus on the 3rd octet (network_host): 000110_00

RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

2003-09-09 Thread Reimer, Fred
ly on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer. -Original Message- From: Steven Aiello [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 8:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050] I just started my routing clas

RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

2003-09-09 Thread Daniel Cotts
; From: Steven Aiello [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 7:02 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050] > > > I just started my routing class for my CCNP. We are covering > CIDR. The > book is V

RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

2003-09-09 Thread Reimer, Fred
- From: Reimer, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 10:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050] No offense, but this is CCNA material. If you are going for your CCNP, then you should already have your CCNA and know

RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

2003-09-09 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
not authorized to use, disclose, distribute, > copy, print > or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from > your computer. > > > -Original Message- > From: Steven Aiello [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 8:02 AM > To:

RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

2003-09-09 Thread Reimer, Fred
, print or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer. -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 12:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050] Rei

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2003-09-09 Thread
this message. If you are not the named > recipient, you are not authorized to use, disclose, distribute, copy, print > or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer. > > > -Original Message----- > From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

2003-09-09 Thread Tom Lisa
not > the named > recipient, you are not authorized to use, disclose, distribute, > copy, print > or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from > your computer. > > > -Original Message- > From: Steven Aiello [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >

RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

2003-09-09 Thread Reimer, Fred
r rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer. -Original Message- From: "Chuck Whose Road is Ever Shorter" [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 3:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits

RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

2003-09-09 Thread Dom
ssage- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Reimer, Fred Sent: 09 September 2003 22:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050] I guess my expectation and Cisco's, or at least their current expectations as listed on thei

RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

2003-09-09 Thread Dom
CTED] On Behalf Of Reimer, Fred Sent: 09 September 2003 22:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050] I guess my expectation and Cisco's, or at least their current expectations as listed on their web site, don't match then. By my definitio

RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

2003-09-09 Thread Dom
about. Best regards, Dom Stocqueler SysDom Technologies Visit our website - www.sysdom.org -Original Message- From: Dom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 September 2003 23:37 To: 'Reimer, Fred'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work

RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

2003-09-09 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
.org > > > -Original Message- > From: Dom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 09 September 2003 23:37 > To: 'Reimer, Fred'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050] > > > Oh, and while I'm on the s

RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

2003-09-09 Thread Dom
ebsite - www.sysdom.org > > > -Original Message- > From: Dom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 09 September 2003 23:37 > To: 'Reimer, Fred'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050] > > > Oh, and w

RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

2003-09-09 Thread Daniel Cotts
: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 3:54 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050] > > > We are now teaching VLSM/CIDR in the CCNA curriculum. > > Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI > Community College of Southern Nevada > Cisco ATC/Regional Netwo

Re: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

2003-09-09 Thread Tom Lisa
o: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050] > > > > > > We are now teaching VLSM/CIDR in the CCNA curriculum. > > > > Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI > > Community College of Southern Nevada > > Cisco ATC/Regional Netw

RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

2003-09-09 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
n Zone. >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >Reimer, Fred >Sent: 09 September 2003 22:03 >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050] > > >I guess my expectation and Cisco&

RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

2003-09-09 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 11:32 PM + 9/9/03, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: >Dom wrote: >> >> And one last point, No LAN is an island, why two IG(P) >> protocols and no >> EG(P) protocol? >> >> A NA should at least a some understanding of how to connect to >> the >> outside world - when to use BGP and when not to

RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

2003-09-09 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
>Oh, and while I'm on the subject - why EIGRP? This is a proprietary >Cisco Protocol. OK, I believe that Juniper may have implemented it, but >to the best of my knowledge no one else has. Can we say account control? EIGRP is somewhat less resource intensive than link state protocols under some c

RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

2003-09-10 Thread Reimer, Fred
ly on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer. -Original Message- From: Steven Aiello [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 8:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050] I just started my routing clas

RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

2003-09-10 Thread Stephen Skinner
NOT in the know rely on the badges >From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" >Reply-To: "Howard C. Berkowitz" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050] >Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 03:36:57 GMT > >At 11:32 PM + 9/9/03,

Re: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

2003-09-10 Thread Steven Aiello
ribute, copy, print > or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer. > > > -Original Message- > From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 12:33 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Pleas

RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

2003-09-10 Thread Kenan Ahmed Siddiqi
Hi there, There is a great link for al this you should check out: http://www.3com.com/other/pdfs/infra/corpinfo/en_US/501302.pdf Cheers, Kenan Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=75174&t=75050 -- **Please support Gr

RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

2003-09-10 Thread Daniel Cotts
; From: Steven Aiello [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 7:02 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050] > > > I just started my routing class for my CCNP. We are covering > CIDR. The > book is V

Re: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

2003-09-10 Thread annlee
I get the same results as Marko, but this may lay it out so you (and others) can see the development: IP address = 32 bits Network portion = 22 bits Host portion = 10 bits Total addresses for host portion = 2^10 = 1024 Start with 192.168.24.0/22 Focus on the 3rd octet (network_host): 000110_00

RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

2003-09-10 Thread Reimer, Fred
age- From: Dom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 6:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Reimer, Fred'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050] And one last point, No LAN is an island, why two IG(P) protocols and no EG(P) pro

RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

2003-09-10 Thread Reimer, Fred
PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050] Dom wrote: > > And one last point, No LAN is an island, why two IG(P) > protocols and no > EG(P) protocol? > > A NA should at least a some understanding of how to connect to > the > ou

RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

2003-09-10 Thread Reimer, Fred
6:37 PM To: 'Reimer, Fred'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050] Oh, and while I'm on the subject - why EIGRP? This is a proprietary Cisco Protocol. OK, I believe that Juniper may have implemented it, but to the best of my knowledge no one

RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

2003-09-10 Thread Reimer, Fred
owitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 11:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050] At 11:32 PM + 9/9/03, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: >Dom wrote: >> >> And one last point, No LAN is an island, why two

RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

2003-09-10 Thread Reimer, Fred
tember 09, 2003 11:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050] At 10:36 PM + 9/9/03, Dom wrote: >Fred, check out the archives for Howard's piece on the difference >between 'Rocket Science' and 'BGP' when at NA

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2003-09-10 Thread Reimer, Fred
st of us they don`t mean tuppence (i.e howard/pris) but the plan truth is people NOT in the know rely on the badges >From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" >Reply-To: "Howard C. Berkowitz" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050

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2003-09-10 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 11:40 AM -0400 9/10/03, Reimer, Fred wrote: >I've always liked hex myself. A hex mask of FF.FF.F8.00 can be written as >F800 and still mean the same thing. You obviously can't do that with >255.255.128.0 (255.255.128.0 != 2,552,551,280). While binary works the same >way as hex in this man

RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

2003-09-10 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 11:34 AM -0400 9/10/03, Reimer, Fred wrote: >Yes, but the CCIE labs are supposed to be for ISP level engineers, who >almost certainly won't be using default routes most of the time. It should >be assumed that by the time you get to the CCIE level you have much >experience in default routing. >

RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

2003-09-10 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
---Original Message- > From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 11:32 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050] > > At 10:36 PM + 9/9/03, Dom wrote: > >Fred, check out the

RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

2003-09-10 Thread Brian B.
er, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 11:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050] Yes! Even I would not feel comfortable configuring BGP in a production environment yet, and although I don't have my CCNP yet, I did pa

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2003-09-10 Thread Reimer, Fred
immediately delete it from your computer. -Original Message- From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 12:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050] At 11:34 AM -0400 9/10/03, Reimer, Fred wrote: >Ye

RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

2003-09-10 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 5:32 PM + 9/10/03, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: >Reimer, Fred wrote: >> >> I've always liked hex myself. A hex mask of FF.FF.F8.00 can be >> written as >> F800 and still mean the same thing. You obviously can't do >> that with >> 255.255.128.0 (255.255.128.0 != 2,552,551,280). Wh