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From: nrf
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Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 11:52 PM
Subject: Re: Doyle on Lab Rats [7:44611]
Keep on reading through my old post, I was getting to the link between
experience and your network. The nutshell of it is that experience
generally
Michael
(speaking of contract firms), I've noticed that regardless of certs or
experience, it seems many more places are doing a 6-month right-to-hire
because it's so hard to really tell from a resume, certs, experience, or
even an interview if someone really knows what they're doing. So a
Unless your union I think most jobs are at will positions.
Dave
Peter van Oene wrote:
Michael
(speaking of contract firms), I've noticed that regardless of certs or
experience, it seems many more places are doing a 6-month right-to-hire
because it's so hard to really tell from a
Well, I don't know if it's a waste of time. Consider this. There might be
some newbie guys who were all gung-ho about grabbing a bunch of certs
because they believed that by doing so they would just be handed a
super-kick-ass job (no doubt some training school told them so). Now
perhaps after
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Well, I don't know if it's a waste of time. Consider this. There might
be
some newbie guys who were all gung-ho about grabbing a bunch of certs
because they believed that by doing so they would just be handed a
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Well, I don't know if it's a waste of time. Consider this. There might
be
some newbie guys who were all gung-ho about grabbing a bunch of
My how I envy the spare time this posting demonstrates!
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What can I say, when the network is stable, there really isn't a whole lot
to do.
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My how I envy the spare time this posting demonstrates!
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Subject: Re: Doyle on Lab Rats [7:44611]
What can I say, when the network is stable, there really isn't a whole lot
to do.
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My how I envy the spare time this posting demonstrates!
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nrf
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What can I say, when the network is stable, there really isn't a whole lot
to do.
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Don't you guys have a life!? :-) It's Memorial Day for heaven's sake. This
thread has been going on for way too long.
Priscilla
At 06:37 PM 5/27/02, nrf wrote:
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Don't you guys have a life!? :-) It's Memorial Day for heaven's sake. This
thread has been going on for way too long.
Priscilla
_I_ spent the day, dealing with sages. Pineapple sage in particular.
As I planted them, I was pleasantly surprised to find some that
survived the winter.
I am
Well, we're following an SMTP version of the film Of Mice and Men...
Elmer
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From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
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Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: Doyle on Lab Rats [7:44611]
Don't you guys have a life!? :-) It's Memorial Day for heaven's sake
nrf wrote in message
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Aha. Here is the fundamental difference between you and me.
The fact is, certifications are not really an effective foot-in-the-door,
contrary to popular belief. Yeah yeah, would-be flamers, I just got your
attention,
What can I say, when the network is stable, there really isn't a whole lot
to do.
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My how I envy the spare time this posting demonstrates!
Well, we could always redirect the thread from lab rats to lab
mouses, trackballs,
You didn't think that could pass by without a reply, did you?
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Aha. Here is the fundamental difference between you and me.
The fact is,
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The fact is, arrogance and insecurity cuts both ways. Both sides (the
experienced guys and the inexperienced guys) are guilty from time to time.
And it's bad no matter who's doing it.
Agreed 100%
Mike W.
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It seems to me that this group spends more time bumping it's gums about what
makes a good engineer, than it does discussing the actual engineering.
Yes, I tend to join in myself sometimes. I suppose everybody does it, but I
was just wondering - head count - is anybody actually studying as well as
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It seems to me that this group spends more time bumping it's gums about
what
makes a good engineer, than it does discussing the actual engineering.
what was that Star Trek movie - where Jordi's visor is bugged by the
Klingons,
Thompson Alton wrote:
Your comments are false and you sound very ignorant.
I work with guys who have 20 years experience and to trouble shoot a
problem
take months. This is because they don't know how the protocols work. How
much money can a company afford to lose when production is
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I've seen a goodly number of network administrators who are in positions
of
power, but
who don't know even the basics of classful subnetting, VLSM, routing, L2
LAN
switching,
and VLANs. (Even some telco ATM techs who
against and wrongfully labeled by people who feel insecure
with their career.
Hope that clears things up.
Elmer
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From: Johnny Routin
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Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: Doyle on Lab Rats [7:44611]
Nice of you to take Jeff's words and use
Michael L. Williams wrote in message
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I've seen a goodly number of network administrators who are in positions
of
power, but
who don't know even the basics of classful
Nice of you to take Jeff's words and use them out of context. I believe
what Jeff meant is that as we are experienced network engineers pursuing
CCIE certification, we should set up a lab for practice as we cannot perform
the necessary configurations on our production networks. The thing you
would something
like this do for the CCIE program? It appears to keep the CISSP relavent.
Does it really?
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From: Johnny Routin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Subject: Re: Doyle on Lab Rats [7:44611]
Nice of you
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Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: Doyle on Lab Rats [7:44611]
Nice of you to take Jeff's words and use them out of context. I believe
what Jeff meant is that as we are experienced network engineers pursuing
CCIE certification, we should set up a lab for practice as we cannot
Your comments are false and you sound very ignorant.
I work with guys who have 20 years experience and to trouble shoot a problem
take months. This is because they don't know how the protocols work. How
much money can a company afford to lose when production is downloading for a
considerable
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