Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485]

2001-10-04 Thread nrf
to fight him on his own terms. - Original Message - From: Baker, Jason To: nrf ; Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 9:47 PM Subject: RE: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485] you are quoting ratios again and you have not gone completely against juniper. Take example below. how

Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485]

2001-10-04 Thread nrf
Whoops, my apologies. In my analysis, I had stated that Cisco's IPO was in 1986. Actually that is not true, and Cisco was actually founded in 1986, and its IPO was in 1990. I had confused it with Microsoft's IPO in 1986. Anyway, I believe it makes my analysis even more compelling. Let me

Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485]

2001-10-02 Thread John Kaberna
As of last week there are 279,000 MCSE's worldwide. I don't know what the CCNP numbers which is probably the comparable certification to the MCSE. Everything else you said I completely agree with. John Kaberna CCIE #7146 NETCG Inc. Cisco Premier Partner www.netcginc.com (415) 750-3800

Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485]

2001-10-02 Thread Donald B Johnson jr
Yeah an MCSE on every corner and 1000 Windows boxes in the building behind. I was talking to some buddies in the last big market I worked in (I live in a poh-dunk town now) and people with current Microsoft skills are very much in demand. The infrastructure guys are hurting, remember when the

Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485]

2001-10-02 Thread nrf
By the same token, you could say that the Juniper JNCIE is completely worthless compared to the MCSE, cuz like you said there are a hell of a lot more Windows boxes to babysit than Juniper routers. Yet, the average JNCIE takes in well over $225,000 per annum, which is rather higher than the

RE: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485]

2001-10-02 Thread Baker, Jason
really worth it??? [7:3485] By the same token, you could say that the Juniper JNCIE is completely worthless compared to the MCSE, cuz like you said there are a hell of a lot more Windows boxes to babysit than Juniper routers. Yet, the average JNCIE takes in well over $225,000 per annum, which

Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485]

2001-10-02 Thread nrf
ey bring to the company. So saying the juniper cert will get you 225k is WRONG. -Original Message- From: nrf [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2001 7:26 am To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485] By the same token, you c

Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485]

2001-10-02 Thread John Kaberna
Subject: Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485] By the same token, you could say that the Juniper JNCIE is completely worthless compared to the MCSE, cuz like you said there are a hell of a lot more Windows boxes to babysit than Juniper routers. Yet, the average JNCIE takes in w

RE: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485]

2001-10-02 Thread Mossburg, Geoff (CEI-Atlanta)
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485] About Juniper losing market share. Well, the same could be said for Microsoft or Cisco or anybody else. Sure Juniper might disappear. On the other hand, Juniper might take over the core routing world, and become dominant in edge

Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485]

2001-10-02 Thread nrf
ROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485] About Juniper losing market share. Well, the same could be said for Microsoft or Cisco or anybody else. Sure Juniper might disappear. On the other hand, Juniper might take over the core routing world, and become dominant in edge

Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485]

2001-10-02 Thread nrf
ber 2001 7:26 am To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485] By the same token, you could say that the Juniper JNCIE is completely worthless compared to the MCSE, cuz like you said there are a hell of a lot more Windows boxes to babysit than Junip

Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485]

2001-10-02 Thread John Kaberna
company. So saying the juniper cert will get you 225k is WRONG. -Original Message- From: nrf [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2001 7:26 am To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485] By the s

RE: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485]

2001-10-02 Thread Mossburg, Geoff (CEI-Atlanta)
001 8:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485] About Juniper losing market share. Well, the same could be said for Microsoft or Cisco or anybody else. Sure Juniper might disappear. On the other hand, Juniper might take over the core routi

Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485]

2001-10-02 Thread nrf
cert will get you 225k is WRONG. -Original Message- From: nrf [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2001 7:26 am To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485] By the same token, you could say that

Re: Is the CCIE really worth it??? [7:3485]

2001-10-01 Thread nrf
Comments inline: wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... When I lost my job last year due to downsizing I weighed my options; MCSE or CCIE...finished CCNP on April 30th so I guess that tells you my choice... HOWEVER, after getting the CCNP I began doing some job