Re: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-25 Thread Robert Edmonds
Layer 3 switching combines the best of switching and routing in one platform. The main advantage here is speed. The way it works is, in a switch you have some kind of layer 3 routing engine (aka route processor, or RP). For example, the MSFC2 (Multilayer Switch Feature Card 2) is one of the opti

Re: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-25 Thread Peter van Oene
At 03:54 PM 2/25/2003 +, DeVoe, Charles (PKI) wrote: >I am under the impression that switching is a layer 2 function and that >routing is a layer 3 function. I have seen several discussions talking >about layer 3 switching. Could someone explain this to me? Bridging is a layer two function,

RE: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-25 Thread Ellis, Andrew
According to Cisco: Layer 3 switching refers to a class of high-performance switch routers optimized for the campus LAN or intranet, providing wirespeed Ethernet routing and switching services. Compared to other routers, Layer 3 switch routers process more packets faster by using application-spec

Re: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-25 Thread Larry Letterman
There are two scenario's discussed here, and I am sure I'll be corrected by everyone... Multi layer switching version means that the first packet in a flow of data will be routed the usual way in the ios software, then the rest of the packets in the flow will be hardware switched from L2 port thru

Re: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-25 Thread Kevin Banifaz
Switching is the function of directing frames or packets from one port or interface to another. A layer 3 switch, switches packets at wire speed using ASICs. An example would be the 8500 series. >From: "DeVoe, Charles (PKI)" >Reply-To: "DeVoe, Charles (PKI)" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject:

Re: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-25 Thread MADMAN
More or less in one word, marketing!! Dave DeVoe, Charles (PKI) wrote: > I am under the impression that switching is a layer 2 function and that > routing is a layer 3 function. I have seen several discussions talking > about layer 3 switching. Could someone explain this to me? -- David Madl

Re: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-25 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 3:54 PM + 2/25/03, DeVoe, Charles (PKI) wrote: >I am under the impression that switching is a layer 2 function and that >routing is a layer 3 function. I have seen several discussions talking >about layer 3 switching. Could someone explain this to me? The bottom line is that layer 3 switc

Re: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-25 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Robert Edmonds wrote: > > Layer 3 switching combines the best of switching and routing in > one > platform. The main advantage here is speed. The way it works > is, in a > switch you have some kind of layer 3 routing engine (aka route > processor, or > RP). For example, the MSFC2 (Multilayer Sw

Re: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-25 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 4:46 PM + 2/25/03, Robert Edmonds wrote: >Layer 3 switching combines the best of switching and routing in one >platform. It isn't the best of both worlds, because raw forwarding speed is frequently not the constraint on real-world network design. From a cost standpoint, it would be comple

Re: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-25 Thread Bob Sinclair
Charles, Regarding the meaning of the term "switch", let me quote a few lines from my favorite Net Goddess, Radia Perlman. She wrote the DEC STP protocol and has been very active in protocol development since day one. In her book, Interconnections, she says the following: "One cynical (and ung

RE: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-25 Thread DeVoe, Charles (PKI)
ions based on the MAC address??? -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 1:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728] Robert Edmonds wrote: > > Layer 3 switching combines the best

Re: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-25 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
May I suggest people consult RFC 1812 and http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/forces-charter.html before going off into marketing definitions of switching? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=63781&t=63728 -- FAQ, list

Re: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-25 Thread Peter van Oene
At 04:46 PM 2/25/2003 +, Robert Edmonds wrote: >Layer 3 switching combines the best of switching and routing in one >platform. The main advantage here is speed. The way it works is, in a >switch you have some kind of layer 3 routing engine (aka route processor, or >RP). For example, the MSFC

RE: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-25 Thread Peter van Oene
At 06:03 PM 2/25/2003 +, Ellis, Andrew wrote: >According to Cisco: > >Layer 3 switching refers to a class of high-performance switch routers >optimized for the campus LAN or intranet, providing wirespeed Ethernet >routing and switching services. > >Compared to other routers, Layer 3 switch rout

Re: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-25 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 7:34 PM + 2/25/03, Bob Sinclair wrote: >Charles, > >Regarding the meaning of the term "switch", let me quote a few lines from >my favorite Net Goddess, Radia Perlman. She wrote the DEC STP protocol and >has been very active in protocol development since day one. In her book, >Interconnect

RE: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-25 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
---Original Message----- > From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 1:33 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: L3 Switching Huh [7:63728] > > > Robert Edmonds wrote: > > > > Layer 3 switching combines the

Re: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-25 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: > >Strongly recommend her book. The lady has a lot of style. > > > > I don't remember if she's still doing a protocol design seminar > as > she used to do at Interop, but she's a delightful speaker, once > you > get used to the idea of somebody being a stereotyped New

RE: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-25 Thread Symon Thurlow
Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 February 2003 22:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728] At 7:34 PM + 2/25/03, Bob Sinclair wrote: >Charles, > >Regarding the meaning of the term "switch", let me quote a few lines >from my favorite

RE: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-25 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
> -Original Message- > From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 25 February 2003 22:27 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: L3 Switching Huh [7:63728] > > > At 7:34 PM + 2/25/03, Bob Sinclair wrote: > >Charles, > > > >Rega

RE: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-25 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
>How do you nag a packet? Infact, is it not an oxymoron? How would you feel if you were a packet confronted with a debug log and a demand to explain > >To nag is to continually pester or annoy, yet a packets lifetime is >normally measured in milliseconds, therefore she must be one hell of a >nag

RE: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-26 Thread DeVoe, Charles (PKI)
OK, let me try this again. I am trying to figure out the difference between conventional layer 3 routing and layer 3 switching. A little background. I am currently working towards my CCNA (have been for about 3 years). At any rate, everything I read and look at says that switching/bridging is a

RE: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-26 Thread alaerte Vidali
If you are using MSFC2/PFC2, the PFC2 (does layer 3 wirespeed 'forwarding' between Vlan) will have a FIB (forwarding information base), which is a copy of the RIB (routing information base). The RIB is built on the MSFC2 (router functions). Even the first packet between Vlan 1 and 2 will be wire s

RE: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-26 Thread Evans, TJ (BearingPoint)
es (PKI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 7:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: L3 Switching Huh [7:63728] OK, let me try this again. I am trying to figure out the difference between conventional layer 3 routing and layer 3 switching. A little background.

RE: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-26 Thread Steve Wilson
by software. This is not the definitive answer but hopefully it clears away some of the mud. Cheers, Steve Wilson Network Engineer -Original Message- From: DeVoe, Charles (PKI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 February 2003 12:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: L3 Switching Huh [7:

RE: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-26 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 12:45 PM + 2/26/03, DeVoe, Charles (PKI) wrote: >OK, let me try this again. I am trying to figure out the difference between >conventional layer 3 routing and layer 3 switching. A little background. I >am currently working towards my CCNA (have been for about 3 years). At any >rate, ever

RE: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-26 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 3:18 PM + 2/26/03, Steve Wilson wrote: >Charles, >The 6509 switch needs some configuration in the background to create a >"virtual router". A bit of a heads-up on this term. It's conceptually useful, but be aware that "virtual router" was considered to be an alternate VPN model to RFC 25

RE: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-26 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
DeVoe, Charles (PKI) wrote: > > OK, let me try this again. I am trying to figure out the > difference between > conventional layer 3 routing and layer 3 switching. A little > background. I > am currently working towards my CCNA (have been for about 3 > years). At any > rate, everything I read

RE: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-26 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
"layer 3 switching" is a > marketing term, > not scientific or engineering in nature. ... you said "layer 3 > routing" ... > Thanks! > TJ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: DeVoe, Charles (PKI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent

RE: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-26 Thread Peter van Oene
"layer 3 switching" is a > > marketing term, > > not scientific or engineering in nature. ... you said "layer 3 > > routing" ... > > Thanks! > > TJ > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -Original Message- > > Fro

RE: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-27 Thread Steve Wilson
k Engineer -Original Message- From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 February 2003 18:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728] At 3:18 PM + 2/26/03, Steve Wilson wrote: >Charles, >The 6509 switch needs some configuration in t

RE: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-27 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
considered an enclosure for a small Storage Area Network interconnecting the blades. I rather prefer the latter. Howard > >-Original Message- >From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: 26 February 2003 18:27 >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: L3 Sw

Radia, Re: L3 Switching Huh???? [7:63728]

2003-02-25 Thread John Neiberger
>Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: > >> >Strongly recommend her book. The lady has a lot of style. >> > >> >> I don't remember if she's still doing a protocol design seminar >> as >> she used to do at Interop, but she's a delightful speaker, once >> you >> get used to the idea of somebody being a stereo