Hi Kevin. You have got yourself a great boat. See comments below:
Rich Knowles
INDIGO 1981 LF38
Halifax NS
> On Dec 3, 2013, at 2:03, Kevin Driscoll wrote:
>
> Our new to us 30-2 started sounding a bit hollow and throwing some stream out
> of exist the other night so I opened the water pump S
A note: when you run the engine to clean the engine pulley, do so with the
belt OFF. It should only take a few seconds to clean up the pulley if you are
prepared and there won't be any over heating problem.
Rich
> On Dec 3, 2013, at 5:40, Rich Knowles wrote:
>
> Hi Kevin. You have got yours
1 - I've never found that I needed anything but a properly tightened yanmar
belt.
2 - Agree, a little emery cloth while each pully is running.
3 - I use a belt tensioner to hold the belts to the correct tension while
tightening the nuts.
4 - When my throttle got stiff I was unsuccessful at getti
Kevin, I replaced my throttle cable last year after it brokequite the job
on a 30-2. When replacing you will see how many curves it has hence the
stiffness. To do the replacement I had to:
- remove the compass
- remove the wheel brake
- slack the steering cables
- remove the steering chain...
Sam
Draft still moves. Also some of us like to ease main halyard tension
downwind and tighten upwind. On the C&C115 with North 3DL we have
always used halyard, cunningham, outhaul to adjust sail shape along with
other controls as well. With the replacement of main and #1 with new
3DL this year
Meant to put this as an aside on Sam's thread. New main and #1 on
Koobalibra C&C115 this past summer. The difference between these and
the 6 year old sails is like high tech winter tires to bald tires in a
snow storm
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So did Koobalibra place better and win more often with the new inventory?
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Meant to put this as an aside on Sam'
Dwight
We won our class in Chester this year. We also sailed a lot faster with
the new #1 than the old one. In past years if we had breeze and could
justify the #3 we did that at earliest possible minute and did much
better in winds 15+ than in lighter wind. The old #1 we hated - we
could neve
Congrats.sounds like you guys got all there was out of the old sails and I
bet the new ones do look much prettier.patching is definitely not the way to
go on a regular basis
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T
Dwight,
The best part for me is that I get the pleasure of using new sails
without having to pay for them! Sails are much pricier on a 38 ft boat
than on a 27 ft boat.
Mike
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Sent:
3) I don't own a belt tensioner so instead I use an Irwin Quick Grip
Clamps/Spreader to tension it. Not ideal but it works...
Cheers,Aaron R.Admiral Maggie,1979 C&C 30 MK1 #540Annapolis, MD
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 22:03:28 -0800
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Yea, and you got a lot of good guys to sail with on Dave's boat.just can't
imagine Dave putting up with patching sails for very long
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Mike
Sent: December 3, 2013 10:01 AM
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I would not be without this belt tensioning tool. I'm thinking of buying a
couple more just in case the ones I have break. They are *really* hard to
find.
http://www.mscdirect.com/product/35438209?rItem=35438209
As for belts, several sources have told me that Gates makes the best belts,
cogged or
I've got a 2GM20F on my 26.I agree it is a pain adjusting alternator belt tension. I put a large crescent wrench handle down between alternator and block and use it a
Hi,
I had a cable once that was also painfully stiff to a point that I broke the
handle trying to move it. It turned out that cable housing was split at a
point near the middle of the cable which allowed the inner cable to corrode at
that location. A new cable and self-manufactured handle f
Pretty nifty!
Cheers,Aaron R.Admiral Maggie,1979 C&C 30 MK1 #540Annapolis, MD
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 06:54:29 -0800
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on cnc 30 mkII
I would not be without this b
Firefly (27 Mk III) did much better this year going to a new North 145%. Better
point, better boat speed than with the older #1.
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Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 8:44:08 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Old Sails Suck
Dwight
We won our class in Chester
Add to that the fact that as the boat heels the weight on the rail
is also getting closer to the center of mass for the boat
I'd guess that at 63 deg heel the rail is likely dead overtop of
the center of mass - and thereby providing zero counterbalance.
For anyone who might need them, I have a pair of new Edson pedestal mount
engine control handles. Just the handles, not the assembly.
Contact me off list if interested.
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
>
> From: "dre...@gmail.com"
>To: cnc-list@cn
While halyard tension doesn't affect draft as much on the sail as on a dacron
sail, the tension does change the angle of attach of the jib entry. It will
open and close with tension.
Ron
Wild Cheri
On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 7:27 AM, "Hoyt, Mike"
wrote:
Sam
Draft still moves. Also s
Thanks to the person who sent the info about the belt tensioner jack; I bought
3 of them! (one for me, others for Christmas presents...maybe...)
Richard
1987 33-II and ...?
Richard N. Bush Law Offices
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite 9
Louisville, Kentucky 40220
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-Original Me
Who was it on the list that was sailing From NS to the Caribbean, and which
person on this picture?
Any good stories? Did you sail on the Open 60, or another boat?
https://gallery.mailchimp.com/f45b4eaf1242b41fcf6c5934b/images/IMG_147844559d.JPG
“On November 16th, Derek and Chris departed Lu
Graham
Lost your email address.
Can you tell me where you purchased your Vacuum Bagging kit and how much
to expect to pay for one?
Thanks
Mike
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My stiff throttle turned out to be the throttle itself needing lubrication.
After disconnecting the cable I sprayed pb blaster on the mechanism and
worked it until it was freed up.
Hope this helps
Rob
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Maybe it’s not a good idea but I use the pump handle from my Navtec hydraulic
backstay adjuster to tension the alternator belt which is right out front on
the Universal M4-30…one less tool to carry on board
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Disconnect from engine first and see if it is cable or something else. Mine
was so stiff when got boat need two hands and could barely shut off engine at
that. When disconnected cable worked smoothly. Cable hand extra length so
made smooth loops instead of letting it lust take it's own shape
Nothing quite like new sails on a boat.I got a new Doyle Dacron150 for my
27III to replace a bagged out No. 1 back in 2004 when I still had that boat
and was still racing.remarkable improvement and especially going to
weather.so when I got the 35 MKII it was not long before I splurged and got
a new
if you have fish hooks in halyards it usually a sign to replace halyard or
you screwed it up using itanyhow have used wire to rope halyards for
over 40 years on custom c&c 42...race cruise ..sail every week year
round...long time in north carolina virginia carribean...now west coast
bc...only r
dwight is right on the mark re wire halyards sounds like his boat was set
up correctly probably by c&c custom rigger in oakville plant...many c&c 35
mk1s out on west coast still using wire reel main halyard
winches...especially the ones winning many races...i do not recommend them
but certainly do
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I have spliced wire/rope halyards. It's not difficult, but it's time consuming
and hard on the hands.
Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR
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Calypso still has its wire reel main halyard winch. I recently purchased a
donor winch for parts to replace one of the low speed gears. I'm even thinking
of having the casing re-chromed to spruce it up.
Much of the fear and loathing associated with the wire reel winches comes from
safely hand
The nice thing about the jack is that it leaves you two hands to do things
with. With my Yanmar, I need both. I could actually use a third, and
another eyeball on a stalk. But I digress...
Remember to take it out before you start the motor, it makes a
*really*loud noise if you leave it in place.
Hi All.
I bought the 32 two years ago, literally two years ago. I just got a letter
from the ministry of finance asking for 13% of the purchase price. Do they
expect me to hold onto that money for two years? is there no kind of "right to
a speedy trial" clause except instead of trial something
Hi Bill, that's me with the yellow jacket.
We did not sail on the Open 60, but I did do a Halifax to Bermuda trip on
the Open 60 with Derek in 2012.
The boat was a Volvo 60, formerly Amer Sport One, now Spirit of Adventure.
We sailed from Lunenburg to Antigua leaving Sat November 16th, arriving
Mo
Mark;
You are probably close in your surmise that the rail meat is very close to
being directly over the center of mass of the boat when it reaches 63
degrees of heel. However, there is still a righting moment, though the
moment arm is getting short.
As it heels, the boat rotates around the
The handles have been claimed.
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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By whatever means you use to tension the belt, do not over tension. I do not
have my manual before me but I am certain Yanmar directs that the belt be
tensioned only to the point where it can be deflected about 1/2 inch. I had
rebuilt a water pump on a 2 QM15 Yanmar, overtightened the belt, and
Good advice. I replaced a water pump on a Yanmar on a J30 with exactly the
same issue.
Dennis C.
>
> From: Ed Levert
>To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
>Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 3:59 PM
>Subject: Re: Stus-List Stiff throttle and belt recommendations for Ya
Take your eyeball out before doing anything noisy or smelly.
Rich
> On Dec 3, 2013, at 17:44, Jim Watts wrote:
>
> and another eyeball on a stalk. But I digress...
>
> Remember to take it out before you start the motor, it makes a really loud
> noise if you leave it in place.
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Sounds like they would get along great with the government of the great
commonwealth of Virginia.
John
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> On Dec 3, 2013, at 4:57 PM, Stevan Plavsa wrote:
>
> Hi All.
>
> I bought the 32 two years ago, literally two years ago. I just got a letter
> from the ministry of fi
If you bought the boat in USA and brought to Canada you pay the tax at
the border on entry.
And don't feel so bad. It is 15% here
Mike
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We are the bureaucrats. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.
Seven of Seven
>
> From: Stevan Plavsa
>To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
>Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 3:57 PM
>Subject: Stus-List Canadians - retail sales tax used boat
>
>
>Hi All.
>
>I
The boat was bought and sold in Canada, through a broker. The broker handled
the transfer of the license.
It's a 33 year old boat. I'm seriously asking how this is justified, I'm sure
there is some justification (not sure that it'll be logical), but hey .. I'de
like to know. The government coll
Steve — it’s probably not much consolation, but isn’t the sales tax charged on
the sales transaction, not on the item being sold? I know that when you buy a
used car here in Minnesota, every time the car changes hands there’s sales tax
involved. The state gets its due…
Fred Street -- Minne
In the US they call it a title tax. Every sale is taxed at the title
transfer.
Joel
On Tuesday, December 3, 2013, Frederick G Street wrote:
> Steve — it’s probably not much consolation, but isn’t the sales tax
> charged on the *sales transaction*, not on the item being sold? I know
> that when
Hi Steve
It is the responsibility of the purchaser to pay the sales tax on the
purchase. The broker should make sure you understand that, and maybe
tell you what office to contact. Yes, the government will happily
collect sales tax on the same item multiple times - and I agree that it
sucks!
Steve:
You are Canadian, right? There is no free lunch. What happens when
cars are bought and sold, even privately? Govt always gets our money.
Now, if you bought your boat privately, no broker involved, you might
get away without paying the tax. As long as you didn't register or
license
you can hope they will miss you as far as taxes go.not a chance.pay
up quickly...before they seize the boatthen you have real problems
trying to get it back..before goes to highest bidder plus tax...this is
revenue canada ..not accountable to any authoritynot my friends but
have se
The main difference is that the new sails dont stretch and their shape is
factory engineered.
You will still adjust mail and genoa halyard tension according to
conditions. You will likely
not ever require a Cunningham ever again.
Have Fun.
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Hoyt, Mike wrote:
> Me
Fred: exactly! No whining!!
Rich
> On Dec 3, 2013, at 18:51, Frederick G Street wrote:
>
> Steve — it’s probably not much consolation, but isn’t the sales tax charged
> on the sales transaction, not on the item being sold? I know that when you
> buy a used car here in Minnesota, every tim
If the shape is factory engineered, and they don't stretch, what is adjusting halyard tension going to do?Tensioning the halyards on the old sails stretched the Dacron on the bias and moved the draft forward. It can't do that on the kryptonite one!A bit more explaining please! sam :-)
It's a small price to pay for living in the best country in the world. If it was free the place would be full-to-bursting!(lights blue touchpaper and stand clear! )sam :-)
No boat tax here in Hampton VA!
Jake
Jake Brodersen
“Midnight Mistress”
C&C 35 Mk-III
Hampton VA
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Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 5:10 PM
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Can I remind everyone that taxes are the price we pay for a civilized society.
Oh wait, we're talking about Canada. Never mind.
Sorry - couldn't resist.
John
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> On Dec 3, 2013, at 6:38 PM, Rich Knowles wrote:
>
> Fred: exactly! No whining!!
>
>
> Rich
>
>> On Dec 3, 2
You owe the tax, even if they got you 4 years after you bought the boat, if
you can't prove that you paid tax they got you, I have a friend who was
asked last year by the NS gov't to prove that he paid the tax on his boat
that he bought 14 years ago...save your receipts
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Sam,
If you are really interested in this,(and you should be, if you want to get
the most pleasure from sailing your vessel),
find a copy of "sail power".
Halyard tension, backstay,lead position,boom downhaul etc are the gears
that accelerate your boat.
I'm writing on Wellness and Anti Aging now, s
I think this varies by province and some require certain items such as boats
are taxed each time they change hands. BC I know has this same arrangement.
Glad I live in Alberta we aren't subject to this kind of tax on boats. Only GST
if bought new.
If you bought from a broker I don't understand
Apologies for my links not working. You should be able to see impeller and
Osprey's stern here at dropbox:
https://db.tt/PcqiFwLs
Thanks for helpful info. Going to buy one of those belt tension jacks for
sure!
Kevin 30-2
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I've got the book, one of many, and I understand and am an obsessive sail trimer. What I don't understand, yet, is what pulling the halyard on a sail that doesn't stretch do?sam :-)
Kevin,
Change the hose. It's beginning to bulge.
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
>
> From: Kevin Driscoll
>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 7:39 PM
>Subject: Stus-List Impeller link to photo
>
>
>
>Apologies for my links
Under load or in a puff the halyard will stretch and loosen the luff causing
the draught to move aft. The greater the load (more wind) the more stretch,
exactly the opposite of what you want as a racer. On the other hand, for a
cruiser, stretch in a puff will take some of the pressure off the
Sam,
Think of it this way, not pulling it causes it to relax. :)
Seriously, in light breeze you may want a few wrinkles in the luff. Try it and
see. Evven if it's carbon, the warp and weave of the cloth may be at slight
angles to the loads. Those small angles will allow a bit of stretch.
I
But I've got high tech halyards, they have less stretch than wire. Is this still necessary? Also, will the draft move at all in a high tech sail?(I'm not arguing, just trying to get my head around it.)sam :-)
Dave,
I thought I had the only 26 in Alberta!
Where are you - Cold Lake?
Sam Salter
C&C 26 Liquorice
Ghost Lake Alberta
sam :-)
From: David Donnelly
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 6:05 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
I think this varies by province and some requir
Some one already mentioned it but, make sure you find all of the little
pieces of rubber from the impeller. Hopefully none of them made it past
the heat exchanger. You might find a shop-vac helpful.
Josh
On Dec 3, 2013 8:40 PM, "Kevin Driscoll" wrote:
> Apologies for my links not working. You
John, the Barient 22s have got my attention. My mkV came with 18s and I find
them slightly under powered when I'm in the "should be putting up the 100"
zone. I happen to have a couple of Barient 10s sitting around that I was going
to add to the cabin top arrangement. One unfortunately has a crac
I believe wire is the benchmark.
All manmade line materials stretch slightly more than wire.
Do your research.
Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJ
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From: "sam c salter"
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 9:28:26 PM
Subject: R
If this is confession time.. I have very old wire&rope jib halyards.
They are so old that the rope is 3-strand. In my defence the wire
goes thrice around the winch so the rope doesn't see any real loading.
On Amazing Grace, a custom 45, we changed back to wire&rope after too
many cover failu
I believe possible solutions are endless.
Wire is the benchmark, least stretch, but eventualy fish hooks.
Amsteel is amazing. It's strong as steel but flexible. The area around cutches
can be improved by adding a cover.
Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJ
- Original Message
Hi John,
I saw these on our local listings,
http://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/barient-10-winch-pair_21171681
, I'm going to see the guy on Friday for some other parts, want me to
take a look at these for you? For $80 it might be worth a punt although
I have no idea how much it would c
I don't think they can collect after 14 years! But Mebbe...
"They" are the guvmint.
Rich
> On Dec 3, 2013, at 20:45, "dwight" wrote:
>
> You owe the tax, even if they got you 4 years after you bought the boat, if
> you can't prove that you paid tax they got you, I have a friend who was
>
Is there sailing water in Alberta? That might account for no tax. :)
Rich
> On Dec 3, 2013, at 21:05, David Donnelly wrote:
>
> I think this varies by province and some require certain items such as boats
> are taxed each time they change hands. BC I know has this same arrangement.
>
> Glad
It almost looks as though the missing vanes are stuck right in the pump body??
A good thing if they are. Nice looking boat.
Rich
> On Dec 3, 2013, at 21:39, Kevin Driscoll wrote:
>
> Apologies for my links not working. You should be able to see impeller and
> Osprey's stern here at dropbox:
Sam,
While the draft change is minimal, the entry of the luff changes with halyard
tension in the newer materials. You can check this by experiment. Set the jib
halyard hand tight and note the angle of the luff entry; then tighten the
halyard a lot and note how the entry of the jib moved.
This
Kathleen & I sailed whisper a 1972 C&C 27 for about 5 years, and even
took her out to Barkely Sound. In 2008 we sold to a friend, Dave
Reid. Dave did the test work, for produce delivery with Sail
Transport Company. Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMEKCmFna4g
He took the working engine
OK - now we're cooking!
Sam :-)
On 2013-12-03, at 10:34 PM, "Ronald B. Frerker" wrote:
> Sam,
> While the draft change is minimal, the entry of the luff changes with halyard
> tension in the newer materials. You can check this by experiment. Set the
> jib halyard hand tight and note the ang
The no tax is because we’re stinking rich with oil revenue!
sam :-)
From: Rich Knowles
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 10:24 PM
To: David Donnelly, cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Is there sailing water in Alberta? That might account for no tax. :)
Rich
On Dec 3, 2013, at 21:
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