Re: Stus-List 1974 36 mk2 questions

2019-01-04 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
Hi Steve, I appreciate the direct, no-BS approach, and agree with you, which is why I haven't gone to see the boat yet. Other boats I've literally run out the door to see, including a Nicholson 31 which I missed last month because someone got there first. The owner of this 35 mk2 has sent me a

Re: Stus-List 1974 36 mk2 questions

2019-01-04 Thread Russ & Melody via CnC-List
Hi Steve, Are you on the West Coast? Cheers, Russ At 04:47 PM 1/4/2019, you wrote: I like the MKII and I love C as much as any on this list, but he's not going to get 30k for that boat. I wouldn't pay 20k for that boat based on that ad. It's listed since the summer and it's not

Re: Stus-List Cockpit scupper drains - stories version

2019-01-04 Thread Greg Swetka via CnC-List
I also have a 35mkII and I know for a fact that there were never 4 thru hulls. Mine aft ones were always teed to the forward ones. The aft ones always held water as the hoses went straight down and looped back up over the partial bulkheads before connecting to the forward ones. I recently

Re: Stus-List Cockpit scupper drains

2019-01-04 Thread Dave Godwin via CnC-List
Interesting. I’ve always thought that open cockpits made sense. I remember the days of concern about open transoms. They’re everywhere now… Regards, Dave Godwin 1982 C 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay Ronin’s Overdue Refit > On Jan 4, 2019, at 7:30 PM,

Re: Stus-List 1974 36 mk2 questions

2019-01-04 Thread Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List
I like the MKII and I love C as much as any on this list, but he's not going to get 30k for that boat. I wouldn't pay 20k for that boat based on that ad. It's listed since the summer and it's not sold, it's now winter. Private seller? How many times do you think he wants to show that boat?

Stus-List Cockpit scupper drains

2019-01-04 Thread Rob Ball via CnC-List
When I first worked at C, I did a number of calculations figuring out how big the drains had to be, in order to empty the cockpit quickly enough . . . . . Later on, of course we did some open transoms - dangerous everyone said - but it turned out they were actually safer . . . . . Rob Ball.

Re: Stus-List Cockpit scupper drains - stories version

2019-01-04 Thread Paul Baker via CnC-List
Many races also have specific requirements around the size of scuppers vs. cockpit volume. From: CnC-List on behalf of Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: January 4, 2019 2:12:27 PM To: CnClist Cc: Dennis C. Subject: Re: Stus-List Cockpit scupper drains - stories

Re: Stus-List Cockpit scupper drains - stories version

2019-01-04 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
And the 35 MK1 has a very low companionway/bridge deck but lots of volume to fill with water below decks. I could be about knee deep in water in the MKIi cockpit not the same in the MKI. On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 6:13 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote: > Be interesting to plug them, fill the

Re: Stus-List Cockpit scupper drains - stories version

2019-01-04 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Be interesting to plug them, fill the cockpit with a few inches of water and see how fast they drain. I'm guessing marine architects have guidelines for how big the flow area for scuppers has to be for a certain area of cockpit. ABYC may even have such a guide. My point is if there were

Re: Stus-List Cockpit scupper drains - stories version

2019-01-04 Thread Don Kern via CnC-List
Dwight Same here.  The aft cockpit valves were removed and the aft scuppers were T'ed to the forward valves.  When I was getting the bottom of the boat ready for paint I could make out the where they had been.  It was most likely done at the factory as /Fireball/ was campaigned by C in the

Re: Stus-List Cockpit scupper drains - stories version

2019-01-04 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
On my C 35 MKII the after cockpit drain seacocks have been removed. The hoses for the aft cockpit drains cross over and exit into the forward cockpit drain seacocks. On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 3:07 AM Lee Youngblood via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hi Don, > > I have a 1974 C 35-II

Re: Stus-List 1974 36 mk2 questions

2019-01-04 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
Hi Russ, Thanks for the reply. It has been listed since the summer, and he seems to be dropping the price; I know he is motivated, but it's still a bit beyond my budget, and moorage will cost a bit more than the 30' boats I've been looking at. I'm very familiar with VW diesels, currently own

Re: Stus-List Speaking of cockpit locker latches

2019-01-04 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
You can set up an account with Beneteau and buy spare parts if you know what model boat you saw them on. IIRC the Lewmar prices were good. Joel. On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 2:23 PM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Lee, > > usually, people are not kicked off the list.

Re: Stus-List Speaking of cockpit locker latches

2019-01-04 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Lee, usually, people are not kicked off the list. Instead, a simple keel-hauling is applied as an appropriate punishment... Marek From: Lee Youngblood via CnC-List Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 13:33 To: CnC-List Cc: Lee Youngblood Subject: Re: Stus-List Speaking of cockpit locker latches I

Re: Stus-List Speaking of cockpit locker latches

2019-01-04 Thread Lee Youngblood via CnC-List
Hi Dennis, I actually was impressed with the ones I saw on a Beneteau - Gasp! Please don’t kick me off this list guys! They were simple pushbutton to open, spring loaded and automatically lock every time. The pin from inside, can easily be opened if trapped inside. One of the good thoughts

Re: Stus-List 1974 36 mk2 questions

2019-01-04 Thread Russ & Melody via CnC-List
Hi Shawn, The ad identifies her as a 35 mk-2 and only $30,000. Nice set-up for extended B.C. coastal cruising with solar panels, water maker and Solent jib. The Solent jib is a good choice for short-handed cruising but a PITA for tacking the genoa if it can't be moved aft (not practical

Re: Stus-List Speaking of cockpit locker latches

2019-01-04 Thread Dan via CnC-List
Still waiting on a response to Dennis' HASP situation... I'm looking for some good hasps myself. Any takers? Dan Breakaweigh C Halifax, NS ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly

Re: Stus-List 1974 36 mk2 questions

2019-01-04 Thread Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List
I raced on a friend's 35-2 and it was a delight to sail.  Did reasonably well in light air and could fly in a blow.Also thought it was the prettiest looking boat on the lake.  Too bad it wasn't red!The second prettiest is the 30-1.RonWild CheriC 30-1STL On Friday, January 4, 2019,

Re: Stus-List Speaking of cockpit locker latches

2019-01-04 Thread T Sutton via CnC-List
FWIW I have an ‘86 33 Mk II and it has those springs on the cockpit locker, fridge and nav table and I’m not a big fan. They are so sensitive to any sort of sideways touch that I couldn’t tell you how many times the lids have landed on my head while reaching in to get something. If I’m going

Re: Stus-List Speaking of cockpit locker latches

2019-01-04 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
I keep a few bungee cords on the lifelines at the cockpit (both sides of the boat) for whatever. When I go down the hatch, I extend the closest one to the hatch lid to hold it open. Simple solution that works for me. From: Don Kern via CnC-List Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 11:44 AM To:

Re: Stus-List Speaking of cockpit locker latches

2019-01-04 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
I have these on both cockpit locker lids: https://www.amazon.com/Moonlite-Marine-Medium-Hatch-Holder/dp/B008Y2H5TU They are great for keeping the lid propped open. The downside is you need to train your crew to pull on them to close the lid. If a crew tries to force the lid closed without

Re: Stus-List Speaking of cockpit locker latches

2019-01-04 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Dennis, FWIW I was told by a surveyor that the hasps are OK but ABYC requires a strut to hold the lid open. I just used a shock cord around a winch. Joel On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 11:45 AM Don Kern via CnC-List wrote: > Dennis > > To avoid being trapped we have attached a length of shockcord to

Re: Stus-List Speaking of cockpit locker latches

2019-01-04 Thread Don Kern via CnC-List
Dennis To avoid being trapped we have attached a length of shockcord to the back side of the latch so it hangs down into the locker.  It is a straight section going to a loop.  The straight section's end has a small diameter copper pipe that has been crimped flat (using a vice in my

Stus-List 1974 36 mk2 questions

2019-01-04 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
Hello, I am considering a '74 36' mk2, with several modifications, and I am curious about how they might affect the boat in terms of suitability for coastal cruising (BC coast) and possibly a trip around Vancouver Island. Perhaps some here are familiar with the boat 'Callisto' which has: Twin

Stus-List Speaking of cockpit locker latches

2019-01-04 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Touche' still has the original cockpit locker hasp style latches. You know the ones that are "upside down" so they close when the lid is down trapping me in the locker. I actually don't mind them because I drape a coil of line or a towel over the opening whenever I'm in the locker and on the

Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Cockpit scupper drains - stories version

2019-01-04 Thread David via CnC-List
++1 My 1981 40-2 twin cockpit drains at the rear end of the cockpit are not crossed. Over the years In various offshore weather we have been "pooped" and have also had plenty of solid water to prove their efficacy. Their capacity was never an issue. In my opinion a bigger issue is the lack

Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Cockpit scupper drains - stories version

2019-01-04 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
In a few storms offshore we have had solid green water across the whole boat. The cockpit filling up was not a big deal*. We were heeled over enough that a lot of it sloshed back out and the rest went down the drain. The cockpit doesn’t seem to hold that much anyway in any kind of sea. * if the