now this guy appears to have managed to list his CC 30 twice!
http://www.ebay.com/sch/dmidkiff16cll/m.html?item=271942365606forcerrptr=truehash=item3f510731a6rt=nc_trksid=p2047675.l2562
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Darn may not ship to Canada. It's always the case!
Peter Fell
Sidney, BC
Cygnet
CC 27 MkIII
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A long way away, but may be something there?
http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/van/bpo/5122585668.html
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Sidney, BC
Cygnet
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Thanks for the input guys.
General purpose Krylon or rust-preventative? I think with the drying times
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Without going through the 99-step process described on the Edson website for
painting a pedestal, what products / methods have proved successful? The
pedestal isn’t coming out of the boat.
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Sidney, BC
Cygnet
CC 27 MkIII
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I assume the references to an A4 is in regards to the CC 30, not the 50-footer.
A couple years ago one of our local marine mechanics set fire to a boat a
friend of mine owns ... the result of not ensuring a propane torch was properly
shut off when not in use. Not an A4. No explosion but $$$ of
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Well looks like PSS finally listened to Compass Marine:
http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising
Well looks like PSS finally listened to Compass Marine:
http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/pss_shaft_seal
The point being I expect the shaft collar he uses is orders of magnitude
cheaper than the one PSS supplies.
I would consider relying on zincs and retention rings and just the worn
Is that a crack I see? If so that may make it a total disaster.
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It's not a total disaster. The interiors had water sitting in it for a long
I recall reading somewhere who knows where ... that CC changed at some
point from plywood to fiberglass for the mast step stringers (or perhaps it was
just encapsulating them entirely in glass. Can anyone confirm that and if so
when it occurred?
On the 30’s we looked at (when we
Contemplating the use of flexible rubber in one situation - the acrylic top
panel on the companionway hatch of my CC 27 is attached to the top of the
teak side and end rails with screws. No sealer I can see and the screws are
working loose so the whole thing is getting sloppy and leaks when the
Boat_SigDo a search in the list archive ... we had a recent lengthy discussion
on window replacement.
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Given the amount of water dripping onto my galley
should be switched off at source on the main
panel and certainly by the battery switch when the boat is unattended.
Just a few thoughts…
Rich Knowles
Nanaimo, BC
INDIGO LF38
For sale in Halifax, NS.
On Apr 9, 2015, at 09:41, Peter Fell via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc
Some of the ‘ACR / VSR / Combiners’ have minimum wire length and maximum size
requirements to maintain a minimum resistance that the device sees.
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Yes an ACR is an 'Automatic Charge Relay', which is really a VSR or 'Voltage
Sensitive Relay'. Connected between the positives of the two batteries (or
banks of batteries), it is an automatic switch that closes and combines the
batteries together when it senses a charging voltage on one of
Dennis,
All the best for a continued recovery!
Peter Fell
Sidney, BC
Cygnet
CC 27 MkIII
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Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 1:20 PM
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Subject: Stus-List sailing books - now grounded from sailing
Chuck,
Your grounding could be worse.
Couple weeks
Furler is sold ... finally!!
For reference, it came apart quite easily with a heat gun, screwdriver (this
model has set screws, not drift pins) and a stout putty knife to get the foil
sections separating.
Peter Fell
Sidney, BC
Cygnet
CC 27 MkIII
From: Peter Fell
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014
It is a bit of a ‘grey area’ though, isn’t it?
Typically an insurer will look at a surveyor’s report and make the surveyor’s
recommendations a requirement of the insurance, with a timeline to complete the
required work.
I’m not sure what US Coast Guard regs say, but Transport Canada says that
Since your zinc was completely gone, I’d take it to a rad shop and have them
replace the seals, boil it and pressure test it ... and I bet they’d replace
the zinc too. Peace of mind!
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Isn’t the standard approach to cut away the headliner when installing backing
plates?
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Peter,
I've seen boats with the conversion. A pier
. Had there
been a gap, I would have traced the shape of the plate and cut it out with a
vibrating saw and a Dremel at the corners.
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Peter Fell via CnC-List
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Isn’t the standard approach
This is a good write-up too, I think:
http://forums.catalina.sailboatowners.com/showthread.php?t=137615.
Also it describes the basic function and differences between the Echo-charger
and the more ‘traditional’ combiners like the Blue Sea and Yandina.
Similar to the Echo-charger is the Balmar
Knowles
Nanaimo, BC
INDIGO LF38
For sale in Halifax, NS.
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It also says when the output voltage reaches 14.4 volts, it reduces the output
current to maintain a float condition. There’s also a curve in the owner’s
Hey Rich
Could you elaborate on your thoughts re combiners / charge relays vs.
echo-chargers? I’m looking at options right now myself.
For Edd, is there any benefit to having a solar controller that is dual-bank?
I’m not sure which one you are proposing (have?) but I’m wondering if the
The ProSport doesn’t have the capability of running multiple charging profiles
for different banks. But I think the basic difference here is what type of AGM
battery you are using. The charger has a Flooded / AGM setting, using the same
profile / rates for both and then a “HP AGM” setting,
the connection when the charger/alternator
was disconnected/shutdown.
Remember this is all so that you don't ever have to switch the 1-ALL-2 switch.
Even more so that there isn't any temptation to do it while the engine is
running.
Josh
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I can see it now ... Happy Birthday Honey! ... I got you this nifty offshore
1st aid kit! Oh ... did I not mention we are going offshore this summer?
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Subject: Stus-List First aid kit
I'd like to
If Edd’s going to pre-run and cut/crimp as he goes then I would think the
hammer crimp wouldn’t work for him.
In the thriving metropolis of New York, are there any tool rental places that
have them? Craigslist for a used one?
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Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015
There’s the listserv spirit!
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Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 4:01 PM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Tool(s) Recommendation for Battery Cable
Edd — I have one of the big crimpers, and could do cables for you. I just need
to
Yup ... those hydraulic crimpers don’t get much traction from Maine Sail in the
link I posted previously. I think some of the large ‘offshore’ manual crimpers
on ebay, etc. fall into the same category.
By the way I was looking at some terminal lugs at my local NAPA distributor the
other day
Regardless of what pump you choose rewire. You don’t want stray current
corrosion on your boat.
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Subject: Re: Stus-List 37+ Bilge pump
Jake:
Have the same arrangement as you
I don't see patches on the website?
Something perhaps to look into is the possibility that a bulk order of
chandlery items be shipped out to a volunteer (or 2) in various areas to
1) broker for the group
2) bring along to the area's CC rendezvous?
I must admit in the couple years I've had
Darn! This just made me realize I placed an order last summer for ball caps
... and then forgot to send a cheque. Bad! Bad! Bad! Must have had something to
do with turning the big 50 at the same time.
I’d certainly redo my order.
Peter Fell
Sidney, BC
Cygnet
CC 27
I’ve met with people from both forums and list-servs ... people from this
list-serv and people from audio forums (vintage audio is also a hobby).
A few of the things that seem to work well on a forum that perhaps not everyone
thinks about:
1) On one of the audio forums I am a member of we
You can almost see my house from one of the gallery pics! Certainly can see my
neighbour.
Peter Fell
Sidney, BC
Cygnet
CC 27 MkIII
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Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 10:10 AM
To: jackbrennan ; 1 CnC List
Subject: Re: Stus-List Deck hardware for mooring
Paul, you
Regardless of the test results, Kroil worked well for me on a number of problem
bolts on my Atomic Four, including exhaust manifold and head and in getting the
engine coupling off the shaft.
And (for reference of our Canadian listserv members) was surprisingly easy to
get close to home in
While not ideal you can have a combined AC/DC panel and many manufacturers
(e.g. Blue Seas) make them as long as you (as Bob mentioned) you use a
rear cover on the AC portion (again as an example, Blue Seas makes these for
their AC panels).
Back covers are not available for all the AC
My apologies for responding with that big listserv digest train attached!!
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Probably best if you let us know what boat you have and where you are
located.
I don't believe Garhauer has a twin sheet system. At least not standard in
their catalog ... if you call them then you never know what they can come up
with.
I haven't used a twin sheet system so I can't comment
Thanks guys
I do like the Garhauer stuff. Not sure if I mentioned before but I have a
Garhauer mainsheet set-up (but Harken parts for a new traveller, due to the
space/clearance limitations in the traveller recess in front of the
companionway), miscellaneous other blocks and I just acquired
Jack
I think you probably mean ST1000 ... and it has a displacement rating of 6,600
lbs. The ST2000 does 10,000 lbs. The Evolution units (as per the older Smart
Pilot X series) are permanently mounted units (with a removable tiller drive
unit) and go up to 13,200 lbs). I think beyond that Burt
Brennan
Former CC 25
Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
Tierra Verde, Fl.
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Jack
I think you probably mean ST1000 ... and it has a displacement rating of 6,600
lbs. The ST2000 does
' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Peter Fell via CnC-List
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
Thanks ... current model pricing is $495 (US), I highly doubt that would
apply to a 10+ year old boom vang. Hard to determine a used value not
something that comes up for sale
Here’s the instruction book I was looking at that refers to the UV tape:
http://www.bluemoment.com/downloads/sikaflexmarinehandbook.pdf
Page 16 and 17. Actually they have 2 diagrams ... one with the UV tape just
over the window portion and one having it overlap the surrounding frame area.
Go
Dish soap?
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Marvel Mystery Oil
Actually, to be totally honest, I wasn't wearing swim trunks. Does
anyone know how to safely remove Marvel
I’m talking to a fellow here that has a Garhauer rigid vang for sale, from a
CC 30. Matching it up to info online I think it’s a RV20-1 ... an older model,
not the current one.
I’m trying to get more specifics on this actual unit, but I’ve seen references
online dated 2002 and 2006, so it’s at
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To: Peter Fell
Subject: RE: Stus-List Garhauer Rigid Boom Vang
Call Garhauer or go on their website for pricing.
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 04:56 AM, Peter Fell via CnC-List wrote:
I’m talking to a fellow here that has a Garhauer rigid vang for sale, from a
CC 30. Matching it up to info
Unfortunately, neither the listing agent:
http://www.thunderbirdmarine.com/boat-info.php?ID=4160 nor the owner:
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-sailboat/vancouver/very-nice-cruiser-with-all-you-need-to-sail-the-sea/1036437114?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true
can spell ... and the owner is a bit shaky on
Nice looking interior!
I still get a kick out of someone who managed to replace a boat called
Tangerine with a boat called Orange Crush ... without involving a renaming
ceremony!
Peter Fell
Sidney, BC
Cygnet
CC 27 MkIII
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For sale:
Raymarine Smartpilot X5 (SPX5) autopilot parts:
Fluxgate compass $140
X5 course computer $350
Tiller control arm $250
Misc brackets and cables for above ... included with the appropriate component.
User / installation manuals
Please note - I do not have the in-cockpit control
One wonders, if it truly has been never sailed and spend 32 years on the
hard, how badly hogged the hull is ... especially if it does happen to have
an engine in it.
Peter Fell
Sidney, BC
Cygnet
CC 27 MkIII
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I bought a smaller 4-gallon Shop Vac 5 years or so ago that seems to be like
the Energizer bunny. I think I paid $30 or $40 for it on sale. It’s too large
to keep on board but small enough to easily throw in the trunk of the car and
it sits nicely in the cockpit when I’m using it. I found an
I bought a smaller 4-gallon Shop Vac 5 years or so ago that seems to be like
the Energizer bunny. I think I paid $30 or $40 for it on sale. It’s too large
to keep on board but small enough to easily throw in the trunk of the car and
it sits nicely in the cockpit when I’m using it. I found an
Serge did the new forestay, furler and halyard install on my 27. Very happy
with the results.
Bill Brekelman (Roving Bosuns) did the new lifelines. Not so impressed ... one
side seems to be a wee bit short ... he dropped a clevis pin overboard and
couldn’t finish the install in the same visit
If anyone in Victoria is interested, I noticed a large framed colour
promotional poster of the CC 30 Mk II in the downtown Salvation Army today.
Not sure what they are asking for it but I doubt it is much.
Peter Fell
Sidney, BC
Cygnet
CC 27 MkIII
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key your mike remember the TV commercial for insurance with the unknown
wall switch?
Peter Fell
Sidney, BC
Cygnet
CC 27 MkIII
From: Rich Knowles via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 5:12 PM
To: D
It’s my understanding that Moyer won’t ship large items like blocks and rebuilt
engines to Canada.
Peter Fell
Sidney, BC
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How about this:
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/boa/4547227381.html
A 81 CC 34 1981 with a 2009 Yanmar for $23900 in Vancouver.
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My vibrating saw (Mastercraft lithium) made quick work of the one thru hull
backing plate that was installed with 3M 5200 ... and the thru hull nuts that
had been painted over multiple times.
Peter Fell
Sidney, BC
Cygnet
CC 27 MkIII
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Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014
I'm forwarding this earlier thread with link to stats from USGC on boat
accidents. Interesting info there, especially Rick picking out the 1 out of
86 fires occurring in a sailboat.
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From: Rick Brass
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 1:31 PM
To: 'Peter Fell' ;
You should have an oil pressure safety switch installed into the block (or is
it oil pan can’t recall) just behind the fuel pump (assuming yours is not
bulkhead mounted). Wired between the coil and the fuel pump (with an inline
fuse – 5 amp I believe). The safety switch won’t send power to
old motor
.. point being, they're all old and they will all need some TLC, diesel or gas.
Steve
Suhana, CC 32
Toronto
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Peter Fell via CnC-List
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
You should have an oil pressure safety switch installed into the block
I'm working on that.
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From: Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 8:42 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List It's Official - Cygnet is born
Any chance you'll be able to show her off at the August Rendezvous?
She went in the water today. No leaks, drips or geysers! Went for an hour
motor with the visitors from Germany (who I have barely seen this past
week).
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Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 8:42 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject:
The renaming ceremony was done today!
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Sidney, BC
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Congratulations. Will be nice to see her splashed before the end of summer!
Cheers,
Paul.
Orange Crush
1974 27MkII
Sidney, BC
On 14-07-04 06:45 PM, Peter Fell via CnC-List wrote:
The renaming ceremony was done today!
Peter Fell
Sidney, BC
Cygnet
Around here the ‘teak’ furniture seems to be commanding top dollar, thanks to
craigslist and some active local stores that specialize in it and do a fair bit
of advertising. Even the thrift shops have gotten into the act. Most of the
stuff I’ve seen is veneer ... occasionally with solid teak
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And I spend Father’s Day sanding the bottom of my boat!
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Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 6:50 PM
To: Chuck S
Cc: CNC boat owners, cnc-list
Subject: Re: Stus-List What happened 15th 16th June
Very different Corsica is very dark and silent right now. Occasional
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Holland Marine Products carry CC stanchion bases:
http://www.hollandmarine.com/CCfolder/CC001.html
From: Tim Goodyear via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 8:52 AM
To: Paul Fountain ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Stanchion bases
There seem to be two types of base that
Unfortunately, while there is a wealth of info on that site, my experience is
that the fellow from pbase is he doesn’t return emails multiple ones.
Perhaps it is some sort of issue with Canadian customers?
From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 8:35 PM
To: 'Sean
, Peter Fell via CnC-List
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I’m getting set up to do the same thing and from my investigations and
discussions with local marine mechanics, I’ve determined:
1) The coupling would be a tolerance fit.
2) Cutting the old coupling off is the quickest method
I’m getting set up to do the same thing and from my investigations and
discussions with local marine mechanics, I’ve determined:
1) The coupling would be a tolerance fit.
2) Cutting the old coupling off is the quickest method and you should do
that at the keyway to minimize the potential
Probably sold his CC and now, realizing the horrid blunder that has been made,
is in a barely functioning state of mind. I say, take pity and help out the
poor sole in his time of need.
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Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 8:58 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re:
I got my Harken Mark IV Unit 0 on sale at Binnacle.ca for under $1200 and
free shipping. Local quotes were up in the range of $1600. Toggle was on
sale at Binnacle too. They don't have a sale on right now and of course it
doesn't work if you are not in Canada but these units do go on sale
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